Why THE HORUS HERESY stuck with 7ed, and how we updated it!

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Arbitor Ian

Arbitor Ian

2 жыл бұрын

Why did Forge World's Horus Heresy game stick with the old 7ed ruleset instead of updating to 8ed? Well, loads of reasons. But when the decision was made, a small group of gamers decided to see if it could be done anyway!
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@kerbal666
@kerbal666 2 жыл бұрын
This guy knows his shit more than a lot of 40K channels. I like the way this chap talks about the inner workings of GW and not just the lore of the setting. I didn't even know a prominent fellow died. Learning the human side of the creation of 40 K is such a breath of fresh air
@antoinerossignol9355
@antoinerossignol9355 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, no way ! Prefer 7th
@ReubenAotearoa_
@ReubenAotearoa_ 2 жыл бұрын
Not interested in 8th/9th rules sets, am more interested in 3rd-7th so consequently am interested in HH. If the rules get updated to be in line with 40k then I’ll not bother.
@DavidSzar
@DavidSzar 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t play 40k… or any other kind of warhammer and for some reasons I love watching these videos. Keep it up please!
@TheOneTheyCallJack
@TheOneTheyCallJack 2 жыл бұрын
For me it’s real shame that the 30k mechanicum models haven’t got 40K rules, then again given how much competitive attention Admech get I don’t see it happening soon
@Balerion84
@Balerion84 2 жыл бұрын
My 2 cents as a new 40k player (started in 2019, so during 8th, last year got also in to 30k). And even though it's amazing job you guys did, I really hope 30k never changes to the same ruleset as 40k. I got into 30k precisely because it's different. If it was the same, but in different color, I wouldn't get into it, since I'm already playing 40k. What 30k needs is just some cleaning up here and there and some updates but I hope they continue building on 7th. I want the 2 systems to be different. The games have different feel and I like that. It's refreshing.
@neilg6675
@neilg6675 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty standard to have a go at those that had a problem with aos replacing fantasy, and 8th ed 40k, but if you like a game and they just change it, that's going to happen. If someone changed the rules of chess to those of Ludo, I think alot of people that liked chess wouldn't like chess anymore. 7th was far from perfect, but neither is 8th/9th. The simplification of the rules is a myth, they're just complicated in a different way. Sure the core rules are far fewer, but that's just meant rules are put in different places, for example you've got to remember how one model affects a load of other models within certain distances far more, and then how that combines with others also affecting others rules. I find 8th/9th impossible to play if you don't know what your opponents rules are, so you have to buy endless codexes and supplements. I liked 8th when it was just indexes, but I lost interest as it just made the same mistakes again.
@apjapki
@apjapki 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Every fandom needs to admit its issues with snobbery and gatekeeperdom, even among the really great parts of a hobby.
@evanwoodham6296
@evanwoodham6296 2 жыл бұрын
So heresy saved 40k during 7th ed
@radeadcool
@radeadcool 2 жыл бұрын
No one seems to have understand the game more then Alan Bligh. Its a shame that no one took up his legacy and ask WWABD.
@geordiepaul3099
@geordiepaul3099 2 жыл бұрын
Alan was a force of nature. He was brilliant. A loss to all of us who were his friends abs those that worked on the badab and Heresey with him. He was working on/planning on 8th. But he just couldn’t complete it in the time line. It’s great you guys took stuff on.👍🏻
@Mikazuchireborn
@Mikazuchireborn 2 жыл бұрын
I looked at the Titans and agreed with them for the most part, but if can make a suggestion:
@pendantblade6361
@pendantblade6361 2 жыл бұрын
It's always fascinating to learn this side of 40k - you really don't hear this kind of stuff much elsewhere on YT.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you guys took a really good approach to design. The biggest problem with homebrew stuff (and 3rd/7th edition era 40k) is the perceived need to give everything tons and tons of new and special rules. All this does it bloat the game and create imbalance though. Using existing rules and making the smallest tweaks where necessary is a much more moderate and sound approach.
@Gauldame
@Gauldame 2 жыл бұрын
I read that as "Updating the Horus Heresy to BED 40k."
@joaquinarias4915
@joaquinarias4915 2 жыл бұрын
A white scars siege of terra project would be real cool. Would be dope to convert a bunch of jetbike marines to mk 6 from the new boxed set. Im still hoping gw officially announces it tomorrow.
@playersinexile72
@playersinexile72 2 жыл бұрын
I love how what you are saying about 7th Ed could be you talking about 9th right now.
@Henderburn2
@Henderburn2 2 жыл бұрын
As a relatively recent player, I really like the videos that give historical context for the different versions and fan reactions. Nice work!
@betobrakmo9157
@betobrakmo9157 2 жыл бұрын
I think what I like best about 30k being set in essentially 3rd - 7th edition 40k rules set is that it’s an actual older set of rules. It’s almost like continuity that in the age of the heresy they fought like ancient times.
@Sandstorm11911
@Sandstorm11911 2 жыл бұрын
I like easy game systems like 8th Edition. But I like the wackiness and simulation character of 7th too. I understand that people can miss that simulation character and the little things that do not make much of a difference but feel right. Like troops actually fleeing, meaningful cover rules, only visible models in a squat can die, target priority, vehicle facing etc…
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