Please listen if this is you; it will totally change your life !!! Even assuming you are already a born again Christian! Maranatha!

Got that right brother!

My pastor uses the NIV. Most churches in my area use the NIV.

I agree !

My Pastor in Poulsbo WA used the NKJV, I was not aware of any of the differences unti I listened to Chick tracks and King James Bible Research Council.

It's a more subtle way of saying "find proselytes" "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."

@Jerry Collins wow. What a great example of a total lack of understanding. Why are you even here?

@@Nick-wn1xw Why dont you show your understanding and teach him? If you wont, they why were you even here?

@@Nick-wn1xw Why dont you show your understanding and teach him? If you wont, they why were you even here?

@@davemoore1101 *_God Bless_*

JesusismyKing777 Even the KJV Bible have many bad Translation of Verses in it. The KJV Bible Translators added 1 John 5:7 to the KJV ! This verse is not found in the Original Manuscripts. *Does 1 John 5:7-8 Have Added Text ?* Some person or persons in centuries past were so zealous to find support for their belief in the Trinity that they literally added it. There are numerous Scholars in fact that inform us that this passage has a spurious comment which has been added. The textual Scholar Bart Ehrman described this forgery as follows: “…this represents the most obvious instance of a theologically motivated corruption in the entire manuscript tradition of the New Testament.” Thus the scholarly consensus is that this passage is a Latin corruption that found its way into a Greek manuscript at an early date while being absent from the THOUSANDS of other manuscripts. This addition is so famous and hence so well known that it has even been given its own name and is called the “Comma Johanneum.” Comma means a short clause. Modern Bible translations come from two manuscripts called the Codex Sinaiticus, which has more edits than any other manuscript in Biblical history (14800 edits), and the Codex Vaticanus which comes from the Vatican. These two manuscripts do NOT contain the Comma Johanneum and why this added text is not found in modern Bible translations other than the NKJV where it was added only to match the KJV. The King James New Testament on the other hand was compiled from over 5000 copies of copies of the original manuscripts which have long since perished. Now please take careful note that this added text was found in only ONE of the 5000 plus manuscripts. THAT MEANS ADDED ! And so there is not one major theologian that does not acknowledge this fact. And yet considering all the irrefutable facts, it is amazing that there are still some who go into denial rather than acknowledge this well-known corruption that is so famous that it has even been given its own name ! The English King James Bible translated in 1611 AD retains this Trinitarian forgery, but none of our modern translations have it except the NKJV where it was added to match the KJV. The King James Version reads as follows, “For there are three that bear record IN HEAVEN, THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. 8 AND THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR WITNESS IN EARTH, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” 1 John 5:7-8 Thus the words in CAPS are found in the KJV, NKJV but are missing from almost every other translation. Thomas Nelson and Sons Catholic Commentary, 1951, page 1186 states, “It is now generally held that this passage, called the Gomma Johanneum, is a gloss that crept into the text of the Old Latin and Vulgate at an early date, but found its way into the Greek text only in the 15th and 16th centuries.” Here is how 1 John 5:7-8 reads from the NIV and most other Bible translations. “For there are three that testify: 8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.” Erasmus did not include the infamous Comma Johanneum of 1 John 5:7-8 in either his 1516 or 1519 editions of his Greek New Testament but made its way into his third edition in 1522 because of pressure from the Catholic Church. After his first edition appeared in 1516, there arose such a furor over the absence of the Comma that Erasmus needed to defend himself. He argued that he did not put in the Comma Trinitarian formula because he found no Greek manuscripts that included it. Once one was produced called the Codex 61, that was written by one Roy or Froy at Oxford in c. 1520, he reluctantly agreed to include it in his subsequent editions. Erasmus probably altered the text because of politico-theologico-economic concerns. He did not want his reputation ruined, nor his Novum Instrumentum to go unsold. Thus it passed into the Stephanus Greek New Testament in 1551 (first New Testament in verses), which came to be called the Textus Receptus, and became the basis for the Geneva Bible New Testament in 1557 and the Authorized King James Version in 1611. “The passage as given in the KJV is in no Greek Manuscript earlier than the 15th and 16th centuries. The disputed words found their way into the KJV by way of the Greek text of Erasmus (see Volum V, page 141). It is said that Erasmus offered to include the disputed words in his Greek Testament if he were shown even one Greek Manuscript that contained them. A library in Dublin produced such a Manuscript (known as 34), and Erasmus included the passage in his text. It is now believed that the later editions of the Vulgate acquired the passage by the mistake of a scribe who included an exegetical marginal comment in the Bible text that he was copying . The disputed words have been widely used in support of the doctrine of the Trinity, but, in view of such overwhelming evidence against their authenticity, their support is valueless and should not be used. In spite of their appearance in the Vulgate A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture freely admits regarding these words: “It is now generally held that this passage, called the Comma Johanneum, is a gloss that crept into the text of the Old Latin and Vulgate at an early date, but found its way into the Greek text only in the 15th and 16th centuries” (Thomas Nelson and Sons, 1951, page 1186)” - (The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, volume 7, page 675)

You listen to 7th Day Adventists? They follow false prophet Ellen G. White who has a Egyptian Obelisk on her grave. Silly man.

JesusismyKing777 he's mostly right though. If you look at the bibles of the early 1500s, they have 1 John 5 : 7 in parenthesis as evidence to back that up.

Nathan Chip That's why the KJV translators compared their text with previous ancient Bibles in other tongues, and they all had 1 John 5.7 in their translations. They didn't just pull this verse out of thin air, just like they accurately translated 1 Tim. 3.16, "God was manifest in the flesh." The only persons who would want to eliminate these verses is Satan and Rome. The KJV was translated out of the original tongues with the former translations diligently compared and revised. The KJV translators got the written Word of God right in the English language. As I said to you before, divine inspiration is meaningless without divine preservation. You're a gainsayer, God does not bless gainsayers. I'm sure you also pervert the gospel, it goes hand in hand with attacking the veracity of God's divinely preserved Word. You get the gospel correct, and you will become a King James Bible believing Christian. Your myths you believe in are already condemning you.

Adam "Bart Ehrman and (The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, volume 7, page 675)" You just lost all credibility. Thank you for revealing your sources.

Amen Brother!

Thank you Sir, that was the same for me, I was baptised and never told what to do, so I used the KJV then heared that the best was the NASB or the NKJV but neither had the power to convict me of my sin, so I went back to the KJV and an amazing difference.

@@terencealbertmcbain8041 *_God Bless_*

T. Wolfe Even the KJV Bible have many bad Translation of Verses in it. The KJV Bible Translators added 1 John 5:7 to the KJV ! This verse is not found in the Original Manuscripts. *Does 1 John 5:7-8 Have Added Text ?* Some person or persons in centuries past were so zealous to find support for their belief in the Trinity that they literally added it. There are numerous Scholars in fact that inform us that this passage has a spurious comment which has been added. The textual Scholar Bart Ehrman described this forgery as follows: “…this represents the most obvious instance of a theologically motivated corruption in the entire manuscript tradition of the New Testament.” Thus the scholarly consensus is that this passage is a Latin corruption that found its way into a Greek manuscript at an early date while being absent from the THOUSANDS of other manuscripts. This addition is so famous and hence so well known that it has even been given its own name and is called the “Comma Johanneum.” Comma means a short clause. Modern Bible translations come from two manuscripts called the Codex Sinaiticus, which has more edits than any other manuscript in Biblical history (14800 edits), and the Codex Vaticanus which comes from the Vatican. These two manuscripts do NOT contain the Comma Johanneum and why this added text is not found in modern Bible translations other than the NKJV where it was added only to match the KJV. The King James New Testament on the other hand was compiled from over 5000 copies of copies of the original manuscripts which have long since perished. Now please take careful note that this added text was found in only ONE of the 5000 plus manuscripts. THAT MEANS ADDED ! And so there is not one major theologian that does not acknowledge this fact. And yet considering all the irrefutable facts, it is amazing that there are still some who go into denial rather than acknowledge this well-known corruption that is so famous that it has even been given its own name ! The English King James Bible translated in 1611 AD retains this Trinitarian forgery, but none of our modern translations have it except the NKJV where it was added to match the KJV. The King James Version reads as follows, “For there are three that bear record IN HEAVEN, THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. 8 AND THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR WITNESS IN EARTH, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” 1 John 5:7-8 Thus the words in CAPS are found in the KJV, NKJV but are missing from almost every other translation. Thomas Nelson and Sons Catholic Commentary, 1951, page 1186 states, “It is now generally held that this passage, called the Gomma Johanneum, is a gloss that crept into the text of the Old Latin and Vulgate at an early date, but found its way into the Greek text only in the 15th and 16th centuries.” Here is how 1 John 5:7-8 reads from the NIV and most other Bible translations. “For there are three that testify: 8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.” Erasmus did not include the infamous Comma Johanneum of 1 John 5:7-8 in either his 1516 or 1519 editions of his Greek New Testament but made its way into his third edition in 1522 because of pressure from the Catholic Church. After his first edition appeared in 1516, there arose such a furor over the absence of the Comma that Erasmus needed to defend himself. He argued that he did not put in the Comma Trinitarian formula because he found no Greek manuscripts that included it. Once one was produced called the Codex 61, that was written by one Roy or Froy at Oxford in c. 1520, he reluctantly agreed to include it in his subsequent editions. Erasmus probably altered the text because of politico-theologico-economic concerns. He did not want his reputation ruined, nor his Novum Instrumentum to go unsold. Thus it passed into the Stephanus Greek New Testament in 1551 (first New Testament in verses), which came to be called the Textus Receptus, and became the basis for the Geneva Bible New Testament in 1557 and the Authorized King James Version in 1611. “The passage as given in the KJV is in no Greek Manuscript earlier than the 15th and 16th centuries. The disputed words found their way into the KJV by way of the Greek text of Erasmus (see Volum V, page 141). It is said that Erasmus offered to include the disputed words in his Greek Testament if he were shown even one Greek Manuscript that contained them. A library in Dublin produced such a Manuscript (known as 34), and Erasmus included the passage in his text. It is now believed that the later editions of the Vulgate acquired the passage by the mistake of a scribe who included an exegetical marginal comment in the Bible text that he was copying . The disputed words have been widely used in support of the doctrine of the Trinity, but, in view of such overwhelming evidence against their authenticity, their support is valueless and should not be used. In spite of their appearance in the Vulgate A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture freely admits regarding these words: “It is now generally held that this passage, called the Comma Johanneum, is a gloss that crept into the text of the Old Latin and Vulgate at an early date, but found its way into the Greek text only in the 15th and 16th centuries” (Thomas Nelson and Sons, 1951, page 1186)” - (The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, volume 7, page 675)

Adam 1984 "Do you live by the scripture"? Yes or No?

A well documented response; but there are other passages that definitvely point to a Holy Trinity.

Who is "they" and how can you speak for them?

@@jonathanveliz3797 good reply brother

Yes! Please ! I agree!!

Can you give any examples?

@Peter Xuereb PROVE IT, but you cannot!

Pam Nelson I only use KJV.... I can't go to churches anymore.....I just can't....it grieves my spirit.....so I just live my life and read my Bible..... I get a good amount of fellowship with God's children almost every day in spite of the fact that I've only walked into a church about five times in the last five years....I read the KJV several times cover to cover... it's just fine... it's modern Christianity that's gone Astray.... I don't want to be part of it.

John Smith The Bible says not to forsake the gathering of ourselves together. Don’t give up. We just started going to home based church so there are alternatives out there.

I'm exJW. I left because of their false teaching and child abuse due to the 2 witness rule meaning peadophiles were not reported. The G.B. is now being prosecuted for this x

@@ellielarkin1 that's crazy, I'm glad you got outta there! What is G.B.?

@ Joshua Johnson Good for you Joshua! Keep it up, & God bless.

It is definitely to be taken literally. The word translated "disciple" is more accurately student. The 11 (12 minus Judas) were told to make students of all cultures. It is noteworthy that it was the 11 who were told, but about 500 people encountered Jesus after His resurrection. The word translated "nations" really means people of the same lifestyle, in a cultural sense. As for the claim that Mathew 28: 19 says to teach and does not say to make students/disciples; that is a flat out lie.