Why the OVERSHADOWED Darth Malak was just as Powerful as Revan

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0:00 Intro
0:45 The Rise of a Revanchist
3:04 Jedi Crusader
7:21 Second Fiddle
9:51 Revan’s Shadow
12:20 Outro

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@Ganonsmork
@Ganonsmork 2 жыл бұрын
Malak: Reads title and thumbnail. Malak:*Jaw literally drops*
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 жыл бұрын
Jaw literally falls off
@Ganonsmork
@Ganonsmork 2 жыл бұрын
Ok.... Drops, to the ground.
@warrengouldthorpe5091
@warrengouldthorpe5091 2 жыл бұрын
So jaw dropping
@ELIAB424
@ELIAB424 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@nunouno001
@nunouno001 2 жыл бұрын
It’s mainly the gameplay that let Malak down, by the end of KOTOR, you’re so overpowered that no one could beat you.
@lawrencetalbot8346
@lawrencetalbot8346 2 жыл бұрын
Man I’m going through KotOR as we speak and o agree. At least the comics gave us some back story
@lifelessperson1993
@lifelessperson1993 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you’ve a newbie. My first play through as a sentinel and second play through as a consular we’re both somehow ill equipped to kill Malak. But looking back it’s satisfying in away despite the gruelling gameplay.
@Glitch_in_the_Matrix
@Glitch_in_the_Matrix 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Revan to be cast as Brie Larson by Disney in Star Wars: The High Republic
@virtualdentity2685
@virtualdentity2685 2 жыл бұрын
@@Glitch_in_the_Matrix okay but dommy mommy revan
@lawrencetalbot8346
@lawrencetalbot8346 2 жыл бұрын
@@Glitch_in_the_Matrix sad part is I can actually see that happening. Let’s woke Revan by making him a her and she still falls for Bastila who is now black.
@Nikephorus
@Nikephorus 2 жыл бұрын
Malak knew he couldn't beat Revan 1 v 1 so he tried to kill him by firing on his flag ships bridge. That's all I need to know.
@thatrandomguy5490
@thatrandomguy5490 2 жыл бұрын
And Malak lost his jaw the one other time he tried to challenge revan too lol
@eds1942
@eds1942 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but he bugged out on the Leviathan and lost on Star Forge after it came down to skill of arms.
@coinkidink9997
@coinkidink9997 2 жыл бұрын
He was an joke. What did he accomplish after taking over the Sith? He couldn't compete with Revan no matter what, always 10 steps behind him in every aspect.
@morganpryde9125
@morganpryde9125 2 жыл бұрын
@@coinkidink9997 precisely. Idk why he’s trying to argue that Malak was Revans equal. He obviously wasnt. Revan handed his ass to him repeatedly, even in a weakened state. Not to mention that most of the video is just retelling the lore we already know. And the rest of it is either BS or is already explained
@SithMonk3y
@SithMonk3y 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Traya never gushed over Malak's power.
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 2 жыл бұрын
Unlike Revan Malak didn’t choose the Dark Side. He chose Bastila Shan
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah you are not wrong
@lucienfury2606
@lucienfury2606 2 жыл бұрын
So did I
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucienfury2606 Lol!
@Karlos1234ify
@Karlos1234ify 2 жыл бұрын
Old Republic & Jedi Council: Do go out & fight! Revan: R E E E E E E! *Many years later* Jedi Council: Follow the code & you’re NOT on the council! Anakin: R E E E E E! Palpatine: I love democracy. 😀
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 2 жыл бұрын
Malgus and Malak both were hit in the mouth, Palps had death stick scars, Vader was burnt to a crisp… and Kylo Ren’s bandage looked like a bicycle ran over his face
@jonathanmora8208
@jonathanmora8208 2 жыл бұрын
Kylo who?
@tweso1499
@tweso1499 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmora8208 here we go with the feigned ignorance 🙄
@kevin8639
@kevin8639 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmora8208 kylo ren and stimpy
@lajtosanna2671
@lajtosanna2671 2 жыл бұрын
@@tweso1499 Here we go with the unnecessary offended comments from a sequel fan.
@rebeldropper8933
@rebeldropper8933 2 жыл бұрын
@@lajtosanna2671 😂 hahaha..i love how sensitive sequel fans are.boohoooo 😭😭😭
@dkdc7938
@dkdc7938 2 жыл бұрын
"His first attempt on Revan's life cost him his lower jaw...". "...He was Revan's equal in lightsaber combat-" ehhhhhhh
@lajtosanna2671
@lajtosanna2671 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still sitting here and trying to figure out how much copium did he inhale to think that Malak was Revan's equal in any way, when the only time he "beat" him, he shoot at him with a star destroyer's cannon while he was busy fighting multiple jedi.
@kylescoolclips
@kylescoolclips 2 жыл бұрын
@@lajtosanna2671 Same
@Whatevs13
@Whatevs13 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is infamous for his clickbait titles. He’s the worst kind of KZfaqr there is.
@WaddelingProductions
@WaddelingProductions 2 жыл бұрын
The writer Drew Karpinshin himself stated that Malak was the better duelist
@kylescoolclips
@kylescoolclips 2 жыл бұрын
@@WaddelingProductions How? He lost to revan twice?
@alwaysplotting2096
@alwaysplotting2096 2 жыл бұрын
I swear the entire Old Republic series is a giant chess match between Revan and Tenebrae.
@alwaysplotting2096
@alwaysplotting2096 2 жыл бұрын
@@donate_to_the_edhi_foundation I should have said dejarik. It's the in-universe equivalent and you can see the pieces killing one another as they move around the board.
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 жыл бұрын
Admiral saul: "taris is defenseless against our assault lord malak they are offering no resistance the city is in ruins. Darth malak: "resume the bombardment commander wipe this pathetic planet from the face of the galaxy." My favorite quote from malak. Edited Thanks for all the likes.
@rebeldropper8933
@rebeldropper8933 2 жыл бұрын
Malak was awesome the bombardment of Taris was painful to watch..
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebeldropper8933 agreed
@Viperfish9000
@Viperfish9000 2 жыл бұрын
Sidious: I have the greatest military force the galaxy has ever seen... Revan: I one of the most powerful and loved sith by fans Darth Vader: I am the original Nihlus: Nom nom
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 жыл бұрын
basically sums it up.
@alwaysplotting2096
@alwaysplotting2096 2 жыл бұрын
Bane: I reforged the Sith into their ideal form. Thank you Revan. Thank me Sidious and Vader. Go suck a Tython Nihilus.
@morganpryde9125
@morganpryde9125 2 жыл бұрын
Malak: I lost every time I fought Revan. Reeeeee
@Omnipulsar
@Omnipulsar 2 жыл бұрын
Rakata:were the reason any of you idiots have the toys you do
@rickdeckard1075
@rickdeckard1075 2 жыл бұрын
star wars, as translated by fucking redditors
@Fleechin
@Fleechin 2 жыл бұрын
The hardest part of KOTOR's plot twist for me to believe was that my unskilled shebs could have been more powerful than Malak once
@jamiewalsh3349
@jamiewalsh3349 2 жыл бұрын
Revan: OK let's use the Star Forge to build a navy but no more afterwards. Years Later Malak: Kick the Star Forge into overdrive people!
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
Revan: I chose the dark side for a good cause. Malak: I just want to watch the galaxy burn.
@andreaskaniclides5167
@andreaskaniclides5167 2 жыл бұрын
Revan choose the dark because he knew that the light alone could not truly defeat the dark and only through balance of power(Dark) and control(Light) could he beat back the darkness, something that almost every other jedi could not and did not use to their advantage
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreaskaniclides5167 I know, I was just trying to be funny.
@DarkKing009
@DarkKing009 2 жыл бұрын
What's the difference
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkKing009 Simple, one uses the dark side to fight a threat, while the other uses the dark side for just destruction.
@amysargent4237
@amysargent4237 2 жыл бұрын
3:05 Geetsly: Revan was a tactical genius the galaxy had never seen before. Me: So, can Revan stand up against Thrawn in a Space Battle, then?
@seank.2589
@seank.2589 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on this.👍
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 жыл бұрын
Possible
@pranc236
@pranc236 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh. Now thats interesting!! We need this in our life geetsly! 😊
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say if he (Revan) lost, he’d sure as hell give him a run for his money, better than anyone else ever did. My reply, can Thrawn beat Revan in ground combat. Gotta remember, Revan led both space and ground combat, literally from the front in both cases, in two wars. Killing the enemy leaders at times in single combat. Pretty sure Thrawn is utterly fucked if it comes to ground, and fighting Revan directly, ehh, not sure, that’s a certainty. Both great characters, in just space combat, like fleets, I’d say Thrawn has a slight edge. Anything ground, including both at the front, Revan slaughters him every single time, personally and militarily. Which says a ton, of his skill, he didn’t just do one, he did both, and the best overall fighter of his time, second only to vitiate in single combat, though that isn’t even a fair assessment, as he had to fight a ton of crap to get to vitiate first. Your also forgetting he came long before Thrawn, so for the time he was better, when scaled for the time and tech. Give them both completely equivalent ships of the same time period, and equal numbers, Revan would win probably 50/50 I’m willing to bet.
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 2 жыл бұрын
Also, real question, Revan vs Thrawn, single combat, in a room, even a big one, any weapon but explosives, who wins? Lol. Seriously though, in a war? Revan would win
@johndrum9444
@johndrum9444 2 жыл бұрын
As you pointed out, Revan and Malak fought together twice. Both times Malak lost, first his jaw, then his life. Malak only THOUGHT he had beaten Revan, and that was only after Malak engaged a weakened Revan. Don't the facts presented in your video disprove its title and claim? I will say, though, Malak did embody the description of an apprenticeship in the Rule of two. He did envy and covet the power Revan had (only more proof that Revan was actually the more powerful).
@Christian-el2bz
@Christian-el2bz 2 жыл бұрын
Clickbait. All hail Lord Revan!
@Julian-pw5mv
@Julian-pw5mv 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. At best its evidence against the claim. If they were equal in power then a fight would be 50/50. The odds of revan winning a 1v1 with 50/50 odds twice are 25% which isn't that unlikely.
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see darth malak get more recognition.
@93earthbound
@93earthbound 2 жыл бұрын
Revan: the brains. Malak: the brawn. Deferent, but ultimately equal.
@QA-ut7dd
@QA-ut7dd 2 жыл бұрын
I just played KOTOR for the first time a few months ago, and my what a wonderful game it is. I've always been familiar with its role in the timeline and such, but experiencing the events in the way their were meant to be experienced is something else entirely. It's stories like that why the Legends continuity is so gripping and wonderful. It's a shame we don't get more of it anymore...
@joshp2542
@joshp2542 2 жыл бұрын
Did you fully talk to all of the companions? Jolee's story about his wife is pretty important to the light side ending with Bastilla in my opinion. Are you playing the second kotor? That ones story is just so deep and awesome. To this day its one of my favorite story arcs in a video game.
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: A threat beyond the galaxy is coming. Luckily, I've taken over completely and reshaped the Republic into an Empire with the power to confront it. Vader: I want to be in charge of all that power. Palpatine: No. Revan: Malek, they stole or plan and our stich. Malek: The bastards. lol.
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 2 жыл бұрын
Well clearly not, how do you think he lost his jaw, to revan, in a 1 v 1. He never beat him, he shot his ship, as he was fighting multiple Jedi…and that only knocked him out…so yeah. That’s not more powerful, especially when talking about fighting and leadership abilities….sorry but he’s not as powerful. He’s lesser in every way, including falling to the dark side, vs revan choosing and using it. Not even vitiate could fully break and turn him after all that time…
@jonathanmora8208
@jonathanmora8208 2 жыл бұрын
He lost to revan twice isnt it?
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmora8208 yeah, and the second time he died, haha. So definitely not more powerful.
@jonathanmora8208
@jonathanmora8208 2 жыл бұрын
@@Plastikdoom Yep
@Kikori_Fanri
@Kikori_Fanri 2 жыл бұрын
While I agree with you, revan would have died without the intervention of bastila. She, following the Jedi code, kept him alive using the force after Malak shot at his ship.
@StriderBaron
@StriderBaron 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmora8208 Worse! He was too cowardly to take Revan on AND still failed to kill him AND failed to turn his woman against him AND failed to defeat him. The problem with individuals like Malak (that exist in real life as well) is that they're horrid in the perception department. They obsess over small things like stature, relative power, etc. The Sith Emperor would have been able to defeat him with a sneeze. It took TWO Armies to take down Revan (whose Body had gone insane and separated from his Spirit) including one of his own Jedi descendants (from him and Bastilla) working along the Sith to stop him from Resurrecting the Sith Emperor to kill him (and the dumbasses ALL failed because they killed him...right after he resurrected Vitiate. Whoops). I'd argue he could take on Anakin.
@IftiAlam1999
@IftiAlam1999 2 жыл бұрын
A well-made film based on these two Sith Lords would be great. Pretty much like partners turning into rivals but on a galactic scale
@vanessalindsay2305
@vanessalindsay2305 2 жыл бұрын
Disney needs to make a show about Revan.
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that
@adfdasdfadfadsfareae
@adfdasdfadfadsfareae 2 жыл бұрын
Someone. Maybe not Disney.
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 жыл бұрын
With Malak
@tweso1499
@tweso1499 2 жыл бұрын
@@adfdasdfadfadsfareae absolutely. Wanna know by who? *LUCASFILM*
@harrisonberkhout1005
@harrisonberkhout1005 2 жыл бұрын
@@adfdasdfadfadsfareae only if Filoni has a key role in it
@cwadh2143
@cwadh2143 2 жыл бұрын
This is like a Yoda vs Sidious scenario where Yoda is more refined in his saber, but Darth Sidious had a Force Advantage.
@CommandoCody68plus1
@CommandoCody68plus1 2 жыл бұрын
When they were jedi yes, but as time went on the gap between Malak and Revan grew since Malak feel to the dark side while Revan just chose it. This is proven by the fact that Revan was able to beat Malak twice despite Malak being the overall better duelist (the writer himself said malak was a better duelist). Malak was angry and reckless while Revan was able to stay calm and calculated during their engagements. Also to give a counterpoint to many people's arguments no Malak isn't weak because your op build could one shot him. The boss fight just happens to be easy like every other boss fight in the kotor games. In reality I'm guessing it was actually Revans hardest battle up to that point, the games just happens to have easy bosses in general. My overall point is yes at one point Malak and Revan were equals but Malak's fall to the dark side while making him more powerful, only served to make him weaker than he could've been. Also don't judge power levels by in game interactions especially when it comes to Kotor games. Tell me, since Kratos has a problem opening a box would you say he's weaker than the box? I hope no, game developers implement things like that so the game can still be fun, and in a heavily story based game like Kotor things like difficulty get sacrificed in favor of better story. After all, if Malak was frustratingly difficult many people would quit before they could finish the game. Thanks to whoever reads this and have a great day/night
@ghostttriddder
@ghostttriddder 2 жыл бұрын
hi, with the release of fallen order (dark souls style starwars) Malak Difficulty can be raised to lorewise, if there is dark souls type of KOTOR game.
@Siavh
@Siavh Жыл бұрын
he didnt choose vitiate turned him to the dark side
@muchanadziko6378
@muchanadziko6378 2 жыл бұрын
This video should've been titled "Why Malak was overshadowed by Revan (even though they were just as powerful)" or something. The current title doesn't have anything to do with the video
@personatthebay
@personatthebay 2 жыл бұрын
Lol it is
@jonnygraham2372
@jonnygraham2372 2 жыл бұрын
It was to secure views. Everyone loves an opinion hook. Increases engagement for the algorithm. 😉🤌
@muchanadziko6378
@muchanadziko6378 2 жыл бұрын
@@personatthebay you mean "it does"?
@mattroxursoul
@mattroxursoul 2 жыл бұрын
No. I clearly remember One shotting Malak before dumb ass Bastila blocked me from the room on that ship. Then on Star Forge later it was honestly just kind of sad. His biggest success to my mind is that he became the prototype Meatbag.
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is a video I have been waiting for you to do for a long while. Darth Malak deserves more respect, even if he is condemned to be in Revan's shadow.
@goldeagle6431
@goldeagle6431 2 жыл бұрын
These two are toddlers compared to the Senate.
@scottmcmichael319
@scottmcmichael319 2 жыл бұрын
Revan would have crushed sidious
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 жыл бұрын
Now that would be an interesting battle
@scottmcmichael319
@scottmcmichael319 2 жыл бұрын
@@geetslys me personally id love to see a darth malgus vs darth marr, I see malgus as a little more a killing machine, and marr is much more a precise and sharp blade
@jonathanmora8208
@jonathanmora8208 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottmcmichael319 but ravan cant beat darth jar jar hehehehe
@stargatecommand714
@stargatecommand714 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottmcmichael319 lmao no
@benderthepirate
@benderthepirate 2 жыл бұрын
Malak was the better swordsman, Revan was the better Force user. Edit: This said said by Drew Karpyshyn himself, the head writer for Kotor.
@austinslaughter319
@austinslaughter319 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 2 жыл бұрын
Yet he lost his jaw to Revan, who didn’t kill him, to make a point by taking his jaw, with his lightsaber? Yeah that’s not better, that’s worse, the second go around, in a fight, with light sabers, Revan killed him…so yeah, not better in any sense of the word, actually worse, lost twice to Revan, once losing a body part, then his life.
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 2 жыл бұрын
Nice headcanon, but Malak lost to Revan in two sword fight. Lost his Jaw during the first one and died during the second fight. Since the light side ending is the "canon", that means Revan nonstop beat up Malak while he restored himself multiple times by using the life force of the half dead Jedi on the Star Forge... So, no, Malak was just inferior in every way possible. Which doesn't mean he is weak, but he can't be scaled to Revan's level, because he is kinda broken.
@sudanabdur-rahman6188
@sudanabdur-rahman6188 2 жыл бұрын
But Drew isn't the best source. The writer in Kotor II is who really fleshed out Darth Revan. Drew didn't fleshed him out at all in Kotor I due to leaving room for the player. Then in the book he takes all agency away from Revan.
@benderthepirate
@benderthepirate 2 жыл бұрын
@@sudanabdur-rahman6188 you mean Chris Avellone. Haven’t played Kotor 2 yet, but I know the lore.
@Than-ql9wh
@Than-ql9wh 2 жыл бұрын
Malak literally took the title of The Sith Lord by using a flagship to take down Revan. He never won a single duel against Revan, not even the second time after he re-learned the ways of The Jedi again. Malak is way less powerful than Revan, and that's a fact.
@elijah3320
@elijah3320 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. He loses in a 1v1 but would win in other ways
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 2 жыл бұрын
@@elijah3320 "other ways", yeah, he can win when he shoots at a distracted Revan with a star destroyer cannon, great achievement. He couldn't even beat Revan in a fight while the Star Forge dark side powers amped him and nonstop healed himself with the life force of fallen jedi. He is just vastly inferior.
@KingOfLesbia
@KingOfLesbia 2 жыл бұрын
Malak is quite strong in fact he killed Revan in countless Playthroguhs its just the one where revan wins that gets the recognition
@ATalesTruth-
@ATalesTruth- 2 жыл бұрын
That maybe a you thing
@pieservesserver9030
@pieservesserver9030 2 жыл бұрын
The Rancor in Taris Sewers is the most powerful.
@Nuetral768
@Nuetral768 2 жыл бұрын
The reason I love these videos is because I played couture one years and years ago but I never realized how much story actually was there. Because of the fragmented nature of the way the narrative is delivered in the couture games it can sometimes be very difficult to piece everything together. Videos like this really help bring the storyline together in a way that is easier to follow and understand, and the couture games really did have a lot of really awesome lore. :)
@bigrex5075
@bigrex5075 2 жыл бұрын
Riightt and his jaw just randomly fell off one day lol
@artemisjones2121
@artemisjones2121 2 жыл бұрын
The sith respect power, there's a reason Malak was the apprentice and Revan was the master. There's also a reason why Malak is missing the lower half of his face. So no...he wasn't just as powerful.
@mirakluaragnos2863
@mirakluaragnos2863 2 жыл бұрын
I have played Star Wars Knights of the old Republic, and Malak was very much inspired by the Darth Vader like Sith. Big, imposing, brutal and absolute merciless. He didn't play with his enemies, or wasted time to decieve them. He went out to destroy. Revan from the little we know, he was a thinker whos goal was behind a puzzel door, while Malak just brought a sledge hammer toget further. But Malak was also a show of Revan's failure. Revan was a genius, no one can deny that, but his plan on corrupting the Jedi so that they are stronger against the Sith... well Malak was a proof of the weakpoint of that entire plan and well we all know how that ended. The more important question might be, was Revan too restrained to fall to the Dark Side to kill Malak, was he too arrogant to think that Malak could ever best him, or was there still trust and friendship towards someone who ceased to exist the more Malak had gone into the Dark Side? Both are awesome characters and show the archetypes of the Sith established by the original trilogy. The Manipulator and the Enforcer. But still are their own original Characters. the story of KotoR is amazing
@tenebrous-merciless.3962
@tenebrous-merciless.3962 2 жыл бұрын
Malak may have had advantages over Revan but the Force chose Revan. Malak should’ve understood that when he lost his jaw.
@EnnuiPilgrim
@EnnuiPilgrim Жыл бұрын
The force doesn't like stupid.
@spadesandshades-pc9tx
@spadesandshades-pc9tx 2 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed Malak kinda telling that in revans final moments he thinks about and quotes his greatest and oldest friends last words really makes me wonder if that the biggest regret that he had was that he couldn't save him hence Malak name as angel 😔
@Carlodontosaurus
@Carlodontosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
"Malak was more charismatic than Revan" Ohhh that's why he cut off his jaw So he would look hotter... It did work
@rolay504
@rolay504 2 жыл бұрын
If you listen to go-to droid in kotor 2 it Speaks of how revan let much of the military infrastructure remain intact during his conquests. Meaning that he was again was just using the star forge as a tool to create his sith but then he would probably destroy it and use the intact industries to fuel his new empire.
@revanius2213
@revanius2213 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Revan and Darth Malak, two of the most powerful Sith that were ever seen, each one easily more powerful than a Dark Council Member or most of the Rule of Two Sith. Had the Dark Side not turned Malak against Revan the two would have ended up conquering the Republic and the Jedi and who knows how their Empire would have faced against Vitiate's.
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 2 жыл бұрын
They woulda won, both together, Malala a close second to Revan, and the star forge, plus the whole former republic backing them? Vitiate woulda stood no chance against that, couldn’t have won logistically, let alone man power, and also still woulda had meetra, or got her back most likely even if she left still.
@seank.2589
@seank.2589 2 жыл бұрын
"I ain't never seen two pretty best friends."
@georgefoley9793
@georgefoley9793 2 жыл бұрын
I played KOTOR I & II when they were 1st released. Still my most favorite SW games of all time.
@AzathothXy
@AzathothXy 2 жыл бұрын
Revan routinely battled the best his enemies had to offer. Yusanis, Mandalore, Malak. All fell to his power.
@dar-nakkallig
@dar-nakkallig 2 жыл бұрын
Then explain the Metal Jaw? Lol
@dukethighwalker6839
@dukethighwalker6839 2 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you challenge Revan for supremacy of the Sith..
@rsxmaster
@rsxmaster Жыл бұрын
He got the metal jaw from what was stated to be a desperate fight. Don't act like Revan one-shot Malak with a lift of his finger.
@darklonewolf_0311
@darklonewolf_0311 2 жыл бұрын
“And in the end… as the darkness takes me. I am nothing…”
@thetezz0001
@thetezz0001 2 жыл бұрын
Great video very interesting thanks
@KairuinKorea
@KairuinKorea 2 жыл бұрын
The video unreal cinema made about revan and malak reignited my revan fanboyiness. Pure perfection. anyone who enjoyed this needs to go see it lol.
@DaBobbyShurmda
@DaBobbyShurmda 2 жыл бұрын
That missing bottom jaw says otherwise
@danielvitale7788
@danielvitale7788 6 ай бұрын
I feel like gameplay hurt both malak and nihilus in kotor 2, by the time you meet them, youve leveled up quite a bit.
@SpaceMonkeyBoi
@SpaceMonkeyBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Who else thought it was a fancy helmet when they first saw malak?
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Darth Malak is largely unheard of by the fans is because of what he wanted to do with the galaxy. He just wanted to the destruction of the galaxy merely for the sake of destruction and has no conviction like whatsoever. The Sith Empire of his has no reason to exist at all, let alone ruling the galaxy or stopping the other groups of Sith. In other words, Darth Malak has no conviction in what he is doing but simply letting jealousy gets the best of him while his Sith Empire is existing for no reason but simply to showoff his power as its ruler.
@helloifromthegovernmentand5657
@helloifromthegovernmentand5657 2 жыл бұрын
Next to darth bane darth malak was my top 5 favorite sith!!
@Ganonsmork
@Ganonsmork 2 жыл бұрын
12:15 I hear a doggo in the background.
@Avarice666
@Avarice666 2 жыл бұрын
Revan's brilliance will never be matched which is why he is regarded the way he is. He always knew what to use and how much. While others were playing checkers he already had you in check mate.
@jrfi8264
@jrfi8264 2 жыл бұрын
Revan beat his ass twice
@rsxmaster
@rsxmaster Жыл бұрын
First one was a desperate fight, Malak beat Revan's ass on the Leviathan, and video game plot armor is the only reason Revan beat Malak on the star forge.
@StraightOtohGunga
@StraightOtohGunga 2 жыл бұрын
A Jedi that turns to the Darkside and then returns to the light? Not my Reven lol
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
Yes I did play that game. And really enjoyed it.
@minicle426
@minicle426 2 жыл бұрын
AKA Darth Trapjaw.
@nathanweast4397
@nathanweast4397 Жыл бұрын
Malak: the Tetsuo of the Star Wars universe.
@DarkKing009
@DarkKing009 2 жыл бұрын
He was there robin to Raven's batman. But the dark side cannot allow.True partnership to last
@xinimaru7200
@xinimaru7200 5 ай бұрын
If you ask me, Revan and Malak were equals, but had different styles of combat. Malak was a great sith warrior, he just lacked the patience Revan had, or his end goal for that matter. Losing his jaw to Revan more or less made him come to the conclusion that he could not risk anything with Revan, hence his plan to try and kill all of his enemies in one fell swoop by attacking Revan's Interdictor. But I feel his troubles didn't end there. We do not see it in game, but I suspect many doubted that Malak had beaten Revan in single combat, hence his obsession with Revan in the later part of the game. By killing the reformed Revan, no one would ever question his authority again. Malak worked so hard, only for his chance of glory, and the Star Forge blew up in his face.
@warrengouldthorpe5091
@warrengouldthorpe5091 2 жыл бұрын
Who would win in a war against each other, Revan or Thrawn, both having the same military numbers and assets
@ATalesTruth-
@ATalesTruth- 2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on circumstances either one could win if the conditions were equal,
@rsxmaster
@rsxmaster Жыл бұрын
Based on feats, I'd say Thrawn. He was once able to defeat a whole Republic fleet with just 3 ships.
@condeaarondarkusexcubitor3155
@condeaarondarkusexcubitor3155 2 жыл бұрын
Revan may have overpassed Malak at the end, and I disagree that he was almost his total equal, still, Malak is not a Dark Lord to be underestimated.
@j.j.plagiarisms7149
@j.j.plagiarisms7149 2 жыл бұрын
Malakar: The Last Sithbender
@c05ta21
@c05ta21 2 жыл бұрын
Malak was able too run the Starforge at 300% capacity... that is no small feat.
@derndenoon9740
@derndenoon9740 2 жыл бұрын
Malak tried that shit........lost his jaw
@rsxmaster
@rsxmaster Жыл бұрын
In what was stated to be a desperate fight.
@AngelDust6969
@AngelDust6969 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the reason Malak gets overshadowed by Revan is because, between them, Revan survived the events of the Battle of the Star Forge aaand was kept alive for over three hundred years by Vitiate. While Malak died along with the Star Forge. While Malak's actions impacted the Galaxy, he ultimately was just a footnote for the True Sith Empire, having merely been a pawn needed to weaken the Republic and having only slightly succeeded.
@eds1942
@eds1942 2 жыл бұрын
Malak is overshadowed by Revan for good reason. Revan’s charisma, leadership and strategic mind, defeated the Mandalorians, probably would’ve brought the Republic to its knees, and he came out on top against Malak on more than one occasion. Malak just betrayed Revan while he was distracted by having to fight a team of Jedi and then took over Revan’s forces and continued the war without much of a clear strategy.
@Fatherofheroesandheroines
@Fatherofheroesandheroines 2 жыл бұрын
Malai couldn't beat Revan. It just cuts me that you might think that ..kinda like Malaks jaw.
@bagthebird7610
@bagthebird7610 2 жыл бұрын
whos the artist behind the thicc malak at 11:25
@dissection39
@dissection39 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked Malek, but I believe he could have been way, way more awesome if they just didn't beat around the bush and exaggerated what he already was; a Darth Vader ripoff. He's got the physical edge, the brutality, even the voice box. He was cool and all, but it was obvious they were trying to make him like Vader, but the thing is they made him a less interesting character because of it. Give him some dark armour, give him more climactic appearances in Kotor and he would've been a better antagonist. It would've been amazing to bring him back as a cyborg Dark Lord in TSL sequel along with the Sith Triumvirate.
@amanzeihedioha
@amanzeihedioha 2 жыл бұрын
He may have been powerful but Zayne was more charming😏
@coinkidink9997
@coinkidink9997 2 жыл бұрын
Malak was an coward, he shot at the bridge of His Masters ship hoping to take him out because he knew he couldn't win 1 on 1 or kill him any other way. He then comes face to face with him on Karath's Flagship because he knows Revan is nowhere near his original self & so is willing to toy with him before Bastilla sacrifices herself. Even in their last duel, he had the odds stacked highly in his favour, enhanced by the dark energies of the forge & consuming the life-force of injured Jedi. Despite all of that he still failed fo defeat Revan. The ultimate failure & nowhere near Revan in any attribute whatsoever.
@DeathScepter
@DeathScepter 2 жыл бұрын
he is not stupid
@rsxmaster
@rsxmaster Жыл бұрын
So what you're essentially saying is just because Revan didn't know who he once was means that he was too weak, when obviously Revan at that point was stronger than he was a Sith Lord. And don't act like Malak got one-shot in the Star Forge. Revan had the plot armor, and Video Games can't show how desperate or close the fight actually was.
@StriderBaron
@StriderBaron 2 жыл бұрын
...your Hot-Takes are getting pretty bad dude. Malak? As powerful as Christ Figure Revanchist? His name is literally a play on Revenant. English is my second language and yet I seem to understand the colloquial meaning as well as the lore. Side note, your fanboys are rabid. They harass anyone who disagrees with your videos, but that's probably because they hope you'll notice them (so they can then infect your Discord or whatever). You make some good videos but once in a while, you have stuff like this. Has some cool stuff in it but is just...farcical.
@elijah3320
@elijah3320 2 жыл бұрын
True in a way but some of the points are correct and if you add them up he is technically just as powerful. Even though he would lose in a 1v1 he is more powerful in other ways.
@StriderBaron
@StriderBaron 2 жыл бұрын
@@elijah3320 Hmm...I guess that *could* be correct given the right circumstances but then neither of them would be in full power (IE yea, he'd probably kick the shit out of Revan while he's been mind-wiped/no longer has his force powers/etc. and has to deal with an army of blood thirsty Sith Acolytes, etc.). And yea, that's the only reason I keep watching this guy's videos. He's got a lot of interesting points and cool videos, but once in a while he makes the inevitable Click-Bait that I see on almost every channel.
@morganpryde9125
@morganpryde9125 2 жыл бұрын
Way too much clickbait man. Ignoring the fact that most of the video is just moronic rambling about their backstory and his actual argument is absolute garbage at best, the points he brings up to defend it have all been explained or are obvious. Malak definitely is NOT more powerful than Revan, considering he fought him twice and lost horribly both times. He tried killing him with turbo lasers, unsuccessfully, might I add. He was basically Revan’s bitch the entire time. The claim that Malak was more charismatic than Revan is ridiculous too. I don’t see hordes of people flocking to Malak like they did Revan. Revan commanded people through sheer leadership abilities and personality.
@StriderBaron
@StriderBaron 2 жыл бұрын
@@morganpryde9125 I'm actually with you on this. I'm generally too nice to say these things (unless it's among friends, etc.). The only way Malak could have killed Revan was if he had gone full ham at the VERY VERY beginning (IE when Bastilla tries to sacrifice herself, etc.). It'd only be technically correct in that sense. Other than that, Malak is many leagues below Revan (he himself admits it. He was only after Revan's title just for an Ego boost. He didn't truly understand the responsibility or weight that was on Revan's shoulder the moment he learned for the true Sith Empire). I'd argue that the Galaxy would have been a lot better had Revan gotten what he wanted. As for Geetsly...again. With you on that. I was just watching a similar channel talk about Count Dooku and it was some non-Nerd going off of Wikipedia (didn't even know Dooku's real name. To quote this other KZfaqr, "When Dooku left the Jedi Council, he became a Sith lord named Count Dooku"). I'm like..."what". I'm about to hit my early 30's. I've given up. Just gonna consume media here and there and hope the stuff I like doesn't dumb down.
@matluc_productions4031
@matluc_productions4031 8 ай бұрын
I see it this way: Revan was just as powerful a duelist as he was a force wielder. He just preferred using more of the force to defeat his adversaries than his lightsaber. Much like Palpatine other Sith Lords.
@MRCAVALIER34
@MRCAVALIER34 2 жыл бұрын
He lost to Revan both times.
@ThatSomGuy
@ThatSomGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Before I fought Malak, I was stimmed up more than a junkie in a drug factory.
@koraegi
@koraegi Жыл бұрын
Well The thing was that Malak didn't do all the quests so he was under leveled and didn't min max his stats for dps like revan did
@jamesnason3002
@jamesnason3002 2 жыл бұрын
No Malak was no where as near the power level of Revan. He was a follower. Revan is a leader.
@austinkersey2445
@austinkersey2445 2 жыл бұрын
Except he was. They respected each other because each could do what the other couldn't. Malak was a boots-on-the-ground type of leader. He preferred to fight in the trenches and propel the troops forward. He was noted for his ability to boost morale and save battles through his tactical brilliance, while Revan was more of an armchair general who utilized strategy to win battles and wars. Malak was a great short-term thinker who used his environment to his advantage. Revan was a long-term strategist who planned his enemies movements, his own, and those of his allies. It's the same contrast that Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi had. The primary difference was that Malak was much more level-headed. Revan won because he has sparred with Malak enough to know most of his tricks. We don't know how close their duel was, as that was never disclosed (to my knowledge). We just know he lost his jaw. It was likely close. The main problem is that KOTOR doesn't reflect the lore. Because, how well you do against Malak is dependent on your abilities and skill. It's the same reason people use the Force Unleashed novels over the games from a lore perspective, as the depiction of Galen Marek is quite overblown in-game.
@muellek7
@muellek7 2 жыл бұрын
11:48 Was that Bastilla jumping out of a larty?
@koraegi
@koraegi Жыл бұрын
What would drive a man to get rid a perfectly good head of hair
@Zero.X
@Zero.X 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the name oft the Outro song?
@cancerstinks1
@cancerstinks1 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to his hair though?
@davidr1037
@davidr1037 2 жыл бұрын
I played KOTOR, loved it:)
@jackieanderson9408
@jackieanderson9408 Жыл бұрын
Sweet 👍
@congresswallah
@congresswallah 2 жыл бұрын
Simple answer NO. Dont forget how he lost his jaw.
@thepro3729
@thepro3729 Жыл бұрын
Malak was power and close to Revan in most aspects. He was 2nd in command and pupil and together they wreaked havoc through the galaxy in their quest for knowledge and power. It can be assumed that they purposely fell to vitiate/darkside so that they could master that side of force and do in-house Sith cleaning like they did to Jedi. No he could not beat Revan but no one could without some cheap tactic prepared in advance. Malak definitely top 4 most powerful of all time
@tjmcfadden5137
@tjmcfadden5137 2 жыл бұрын
He really wasn't in my opinion it's because of the star forge that Malak became so powerful but it was corrupting him and Malak became dependent on it. Revan was smart enough to know not to depend on the Star Forge and was strong enough on his own to almost defeat the Republic and was charismatic enough to bring Jedi over to his side where as Malak more often had to torture Jedi to get them to turn. Was Malak powerful yes was he physically better yes. But it's stated that Jedi that looked at Revan through the force literally thought they were looking at the center of the universe he was that powerful and even the Sith emperor respected Revan. Take this claim with a grain of salt but I think it's even said that Revan was the one to gain back control of his mind and he helped Malak to get his mind back. Either way in my opinion Revan was always more powerful and Malak had to depend on others or the Star Forge to compete with him.
@c05ta21
@c05ta21 2 жыл бұрын
Vitiate corrupted Malak not the Star Forge
@danieltober8574
@danieltober8574 Жыл бұрын
saying he churned out more from the star forge and conquered more than revan is not a show of his power, since as you stated yourself in the video, revan was holding back. which is actually much more of a sign of strength and power, since he didn’t need to go all out to accomplish his goal. it really just shows malak’s desperation and desire to be powerful and show people how powerful he is. he was in revan’s shadow for a reason, he lost to him twice for a reason, he didn’t have the guts to engage him directly the second time for a reason: he was always inferior and he knew it. when he thought he was more powerful, he was promptly proven wrong without revan even using the dark side at a dark side nexus
@user-vl3tm4co4b
@user-vl3tm4co4b 2 жыл бұрын
Malak has this jaw prothese because revan and him are equal :)
@Dan-ew9sf
@Dan-ew9sf 2 жыл бұрын
In the revan book both he and malek fell to the dark side by the will of the sith emperor and sent back as spys, but their will was stronger then he thought and when they got back they forgot about the emperor and thought they were sith by thier own choice, when revan had his mind wiped the corrupted influence was broken and thats why he was brought back to the light side
@McCrapweasel
@McCrapweasel 2 жыл бұрын
Who's your favorite fan cast for Malak? I'm thinking Michael Shannon or Pip Torrens.
@eds1942
@eds1942 2 жыл бұрын
Not only did Revan beat Mandalore on their agreed upon terms, whom Malak couldn’t take by surprise, he beat Malak twice.
@rsxmaster
@rsxmaster Жыл бұрын
1st fight was stated be a desperate one, and second one was video game plot armor
@eds1942
@eds1942 Жыл бұрын
@@rsxmaster I was wrong. He beat Malak 3 times. The 1st match happened before the game and ended with Malak loosing his mandible. The 2nd was because Malak was plot armour. Since Malak needed to turn Bastilla to the Darkside and the player and his companions needed to come to terms with Revan’s reveal. The 3rd was due to Star Forge’s corrupting influence on Malak, which made him vastly overestimate himself. It might be like with Obi-Wan vs Anakin/Vader. Malak might have been the better duelist. But Revan not only had trained with and fought side-by-side with Malak, he was also clearer of mind and more adaptive.
@rsxmaster
@rsxmaster Жыл бұрын
@@eds1942 Ok I was wrong to call you an idiot, but let me sum this up. Revan and Malak's first duel was described as a desperate fight, with Revan only winning cause of his force advantage. The second duel, Malak absolutely clapped Revan and then beat Bastila with a wounded shoulder, and the third duel, Revan only won cause of plot armor.
@chaoticdragons9990
@chaoticdragons9990 Жыл бұрын
I just played star wars kotor for the first time and beat the game after 2 or 3 restarts on a save file. Also how is revan's face like it is in you're videos cause it isn't available in star wars kotor as a appearance for your character and why do you switch his lightsaber crystals' color from green to blue and back to green again?
@mikecobalt7005
@mikecobalt7005 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, in every KOTOR play through the first fight in the corridor behind the bridge I had Malak "Beat" when Bastilla runs in and interrupts the fight (Malak *Survived past that fight only on accident from Bastilla terrible timing). Malak was an Usurper and follower that tried to get too big for his own good. Not to mention the completely ****** way Malak tried the cowards way to steal leadership (from the one that actually achieved all their victory's.
@mentalmandolorian5723
@mentalmandolorian5723 2 жыл бұрын
Long ago the galactic nations lived in harmony, but everything changed when the mandolorians attacked
@sithazzazzin7329
@sithazzazzin7329 2 жыл бұрын
I'm replaying it right now. Kotor 1 always had the stronger story, and Malek always was a challenging boss and totally unappreciated. Can't wait for the remake.
@mattroxursoul
@mattroxursoul 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean challenging? He is like a complete pushover by the time you face him.
@eds1942
@eds1942 2 жыл бұрын
He was only really a challenge in the first half the fight on the Star Forge, where his health and power kept going back to max until you figured out why and how to stop that.
@sithazzazzin7329
@sithazzazzin7329 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattroxursoul yeah now he is a pushover. When I first played it on OG Xbox 20 years ago, and before understanding alot of the mechanics of the game, he was tough. I just brute forced my way through with a million health packs.
@sithazzazzin7329
@sithazzazzin7329 2 жыл бұрын
@@eds1942 True. Also for me, alot of people I know, this was my first rpg. So I didn't understand all the mechanics involved and I sure as heck didn't know about builds 20 years ago. I'll probably stomp him now when I reach him.
@DefecTec
@DefecTec 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Malak learns everything so fast while the war is going on is kinda dumb imo, I think it would’ve been better to just say he was found a couple years before
@treiwilson9445
@treiwilson9445 2 жыл бұрын
I see Revan as A forms 1,3,5,6,7 lightsaber specialist. While Malak focused on forms 2,4,7.
@edwardbeaty8899
@edwardbeaty8899 2 жыл бұрын
Shoot, I kick Malek's butt easily on the Leviathan! One flurry takes him down, then a second time before the Bastilla cutscene. Malek is a wimp!
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