😂😂 we need more people like James though, we can’t keep sugar coating cars for the sake of further business with the manufacturers.

Obviously has a big problem with them for some reason.

@@Joshkemponcars being edgy and contrarian just for the sake of views isn’t really helpful either.

lol as if Porsche are actually going to watch this video. They couldn't care less what this guy says about 2 of their best selling cars (maybe not the se hybrid or turbo but the cayenne and taycan in general).

@@hjvh78ho except they actually do care, the advertising model is moving to influencers. You do realize that there has been publicized disputes between larger companies in the whole Volkswagen group and small KZfaqrs like this.

It's good if you want a car with everything

For it's real intended use a 4 door salon would work just as well. Cant see many of these going mud plugging.

yeh it's very compromised - trying to be all things to all people

Exactly! shame there are so many people on here who just don't understand that notion and jump on the oh it's just a dumb idea bandwagon. All the complaining about the boot space... on a coupe hybrid?? The people buying them already know that the coupe has a smaller boot than the normal version and that most hybrid tech means losing some space in the boot.

I disagree, here's why. Big 2 "parking priority" and "HOV Lane access" Business owner tax deductions. Currently, US business owner's who purchase a hybrid, +6000 GVWR vehicle can not only get a 100% tax depreciation on the vehicle but a bonus as well. Now for this SUV you can only max out up to $25k but with Federal & State tax incentives you get additional deductions and if you buy it brand new you'll get 50% bonus depreciation. There's some other deduction you can take on regarding the hybrid system. So instead of paying for a brand new $85k Porsche Cayenne Hybrid they may only pay $30k-$50k depending on options. They're buying it as a performance family hauler that has dual purpose for winter performance driving and over high waters. I stay in Annapolis, MD and we have high tides all the time off the East Coast. Many owners have weekend high performance cars they put away for winter. As much as I dislike SUV's they do provide a utility that an Estate car cannot and many prefer not to purchase a truck b/c a wagon is more practical for mundane family usage around town. There's no shortage of Mercedes-Benz, Land Rover and Porsche SUVs around town especially considering most residents own boats, yatchs, or some sort of water craft. Something like this is easier to maneuver around town on the small side streets, parking lots, back roads and gated communities. Personally I've only required a 4x4 for one occasion which was a steep icy hill that had I not used 4L, I'd slide back down like all the other cars. With in car Navigation I've been able to reroute myself incase of road closures, high water or downed trees. But saying it's for those very few minute things I think is invalid, b/c this truck has the same capacity as a Mini, Kia Soul, or other small SUVs but sits higher and out performs most sports cars or anything on the road in bad conditions. The #1 (I'll list these 2 atop) reason I can think of is a hybrid while less practical actually has an advantage I never hear spoken online. That's "parking priority" and "HOV Lane access". You get to park upfront next to handicap spaces if they have charger's. You get priority parking in parking garages at apartments or city area's. Priority parking at parks, amusement parks, and national parks. You get a HOV lane and don't require a passenger so you save way more time in a hybrid if it's how you commute to work especially if you used it to drop off your kids at school and have to drive from Annapolis to D.C. which takes 1hr in rush hour traffic without the HOV lane. Obviously you shouldn't speed but 9 out of 10 times you can get away with pushing 80-90mph cutting your time from 60min to 25min and vice versa coming back home and having to do it again. 120min vs 50min is a big deal when you add that over 1wk, 1mo, 1yr or 10yrs, that's a lot of time better used than sitting in traffic being no use to anyone. I don't know about anyone else but 250min vs 600min in a week is massive. 28,800min being cut by more than half is huge. So my big 3 is Time, HOV access, and Priority Parking. Even parking you save time vs having to park far away they give you a spot only other hybrids or EVs can access. Imagine being an older man or woman but not quite a senior with children and a full time corporate job working on the East Coast or all 4 Season area with high population. Just think how quickly you can get to an Airport if there's an accident on the road and the HOV lane is open. Personally for me I'd not get the panaramic roof, sun roof or carbon roof and instead would option a roof rack and trailer hitch. Porsche's are known for being one of the best trailer vehicles due to it's smooth ride and handling. Add a roof rack and now you can haul ass to a airport, ski resort or summer vacation and not sit in a bunch of traffic with a 50% discount + whatever you negotiated and have Porsche reliability and performance and value (low depreciation).

@@andrewfrancis3591 nah, there's many things this vehicle has going for it beyond a sedan or estate and I don't like SUVs but in the US they're hot because, of cost savings, time savings, privilege, reliability, performance, ride height and value that does actually exceed a sedan or estate by a wide margin. Now vehicle for vehicle an SUV just has ride height and towing capacity. You start adding HOV lane, parking, tax breaks, tax deductions, high safety (aside from rollovers), then it starts to make sense, when you can save some 30,000hrs of your life per year from traffic. $30,000 or more in savings. Even more saved on maintenance compared to even the Toureg, Q8 and other competetors aside from Lexus and Toyota which I personally prefer the styling and performance of the Ceyanne to a RX, GX or RAV4 🤷🏾‍♂️ once you factor in business you can get the Ceyanne for the price of a RAV4 or GX and have the same reliability.

😂👌

You are so correct and the French 'malus' tarifs are a great example of this stupidity and why companies are being forced to do daft things..

Yep, exactly this. Want a Cayenne Turbo Coupé in Finland? That'll be 278k euros. Want a Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupé instead? Well that'll cost you just 197k euros.

But surely a 700bhp SUV is precisely how we should be using hybrid technology? The whole point of hybrid technology is to allow us to drive preposterously powerful behemoths that serve no purpose whatsoever, while feeling like we're not destroying the environment.

In Germany this thing gets subsidised by taxes but a prius doesnt because it doesnt have a charger

@@julianevans9548 Have my upvote.

@@leokal457 Don't get me started on our government's transport policy...

@@leokal457 Same here in Austria. A GLE Hybrid is cheaper than a GLC lol because of tax reduction. Yeah nice job there Austria+Germany

Now that's Greta's 18 though.....

Lol 😂 😆

Respectfully, no it didn’t:)

They all are , the most useless pointless fashion accessories ever . I hate them all

at least it's much better looking than the BMW equivalents

@@Hali88 true

I doubt it, Porsche will lend cars to pretty much anyone media related, the reason? because they aren't really bothered or should I say worried about what will be said. In reality this video does zero harm to Porsche it wouldn't even show up on their radar, their order books are full and they are happy to lend the press cars out and not to be seen in the same light as Mclaren for example getting upset if one person says something negative about one of their products.

It’s not a “luxury” car... 🙄

Yeah it's like tring to take a 2 seat roadster and make it as practical as suv or wagon. The type of car that a roadster is dictates that it's just not going to be that practical, and any attempts to do so will only hurt the car being a roadster.

Stupid yes but actually sells quite well.Having driven several Range Rover SVRs I'm still not convinced I would have any one of the cars in this segment.Too much of a compromise in the fun department.

@@andyhunt457 Good sales of these just mean there are too many people with more cash than brains.

The Cayenne coupe is the best looking coupe SUV

It is made to look cool not intended as a practical car. Looks way better than an Audi Q8 (a fake SUV Coupe). Audi doesnt have the balls to design a real slooping roof line. The Q8 doesnt differ much from a Q7.

Never go ev

because it's the coupe version, want a big boot... look at the normal cayenne not the coupe. And it's done to compete with the BMW X6M etc, in the same way every other manufacturer responds when a rival carves out a new niche within an existing model lineup.

@@hjvh78ho but if you want a coupe look why not get a coupe that will drive better. Then a big coupe like box that gives you no benefits. I just can’t understand buying something that big and not being able to use the key feature of its size.

You caught me, that's why I like these very stupid SUVs. The stupider the better. An SUV coupe? sign me up. I didn't think it was going to get more ridiculous than four-door coupes

Thankyou!

DoubleDeckerAnton by that I assume you mean a huge dislike for Porsche?

Yup, stupid cars exist because stupid people buy them...as a Porsche owner myself I've had couple of Cayenne/Macan drivers give me a thumbs up. They get a disparaging chuckle in return (no rude gestures or anything they can see, they are being nice to me after all!).

That's the same question as what came first the chicken or the egg.If I recall nobody asked for SUVs it was some fool in marketing who came up with the idea...think Nissan led the charge ....damn them 😁

Without the Cayenne and Macan, I doubt there would still be a 911 or even a Porsche. Perhaps we should thank these uneducated masses.

​@@jmcarbone2754 Porsche made an SUV to appeal to all the people buying SUVs- if those people were buying saloons or hatchbacks instead then it seems certain Porsche would have made one of those. It's fair not to blame the manufacturer for making a product people want, it's the consumers who don't need to buy unnecessarily large and inefficient vehicles.

Exactly this regards P11d ,I came out my car lease scheme as the only options were crappy Toyota hybrids....

was going to say the same, sounds like it's misfiring

Put the floor down to avoid seeing Banbury would be good advice....

amen to that o/

the Panamera sport turismo E-hybrid is the car for you then. (330bhp from the v6 and 30+ miles of electric only range) the only problem is boot space, but it expands to 1300 litres with the seats folded down.

So they can frig the emissions figures.

@@AriesUmbra that would indeed be a much more sensible choice (if we take the price out of the equation). Harry from Harry's garage even made a video just a few days ago about that particular car i think.

@@Pauli-COJ yess a man of taste watching harry metcalfe. he reviewed the 's' version but the 'non s' is a massive 50 grand cheaper than this cayenne

What country is charging the cost of a house to tax a car and why hasn't everybody abandoned that country to die?

Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio any day

You sit higher up, which the market seems to be crazy about at the moment, but other than that I agree. Except that the Panamera is quite a bit pricier

@@john2357 good taste has no price ;)

All you say is true but if they can sell them it's all moot.

Its Ugly af too.

It brings in the money for the 911, and as a Porsche enthusiast that’s all I could care about.

I could NOT disagree more. These luxury/sport SUV Crossover type vehicles are perfect...because they can do pretty much anything. Easy to get in and out of, comfortable for long distance driving, 0-60 times and even lap times that rival supercars (especially when talking about the Cayenne Turbo GT), AWD makes them good in winter, and they are able to carry 4 people, groceries, and golf clubs, while pulling a trailer. Getting ALL of that in one package is amazing. Sure, a Ferrari might be a little faster, an minivan might be able to carry more people, a diesel truck might be better at towing, and a Jeep may be better at going offroad. So sure, you can find individual vehicles that specialize in one "skill" better than these Crossovers. But if someone only wants one vehicle that can do everything damn good, this is the way to go.

Not all countries have nice smooth roads. You'd be appalled at how bad roads are in southern Italy for instance. Only an SUV makes sense here and indeed nobody buys a 911 as it would be suicide.

@@visionist7 But an SUV with 22 inch wheels and ultra low profile tyres is still not going to be any good.