The show was meticulously crafted and had passion of all things. Professionals who had a vision that went and got an A+ quality product.

I think its less accurate to say “it has no lessons to bring to the world of cg (animation)” than “it has no lessons that business executives will listen to.” What we learned from the production of arcane is this- when we give artists and animators freedom, and time (like over half a decade) to absolutely perfect a narrative, we end up with a masterpiece. But since masterpieces are risky and aren’t always appreciated by the majority, we likely won’t see something like Arcane ever again. So long as artistry in animated television is limited by the interests of the people who “own” these shows.

I think the title is misleading. We shouldn’t tell future creatives that they can’t reach the bar Arcane has set. There are other great stories out there that can be successful.

I wouldn't say its shots fired. He's right. Riot is IMPRACTICAL with their marketing and production values, but honestly they can afford to be. Literally. They have the most popular game in the WORLD, and are backed by one of the top 5 grossing companies in the world in Tencent. ( or used to be, a lot recently has changed that) So yeah, he's right, but I still think its kind of a cope that video game adaptations can't be great in every other way beyond their production value.

Arcane got nominated for nine Annie awards. NINE!!!! Voting ends on February 15th so if you can/want to, go vote for Arcane. Like bro that's fucking bonkers dude, super well deserved. Update: it won all nine

One of the biggest reasons took 6 years was because Riot had to train their own writers. And the show was shelved for about 2 years, production was resumed in 2018, announced in 2019, and got delayed to 2021 because of covid.

What this Adult Swim exec fails to realise, or at the very least acknowledge in their tweet, is that Riot doesn't NEED to make money off Arcane. Riot is, first and foremost, a game development studio not an animation studio. The "success" of Arcane is intrinsic to the online buzz and its ability to grab people who aren't already playing their games, not necessarily the profit of Arcane itself. Riot almost definitely loses money on their cinematics (Warriors, Awaken, Rise, K/DA, GIANTS etc.) if you were to just narrow in on the cinematics and ignore the added interest seen in League/Worlds and increased profits from skin lines. Riot seems to understand that they'll see profit margins in their games as a result of what they make outside of the game. They collect tonnes of data and have analysts that pour through the data that have been able to point at stuff like the cinematics to say that they resulted in profits and increase play time in League. In this case, Arcane could be considered closer to a fan project instead of a self-contained industry project.

Arcane is top-tier gourmet animation. So yeah, it's not going to be the norm. In the same way the last few episodes of demon Slayer have been top-tier, you don't see it often with anime. Also, technically Arcane only took about three years or so for it to be done. It got shelved for quite a while at the beginning of production before being resumed.

Yes, the risks of trying something like Arcane are huge. As said, there are too many unknowns. But it was done. It was good, it was great, it brought tears to the eyes of several spectators and aroused the eagerness to know and explore the scenario. Thousands of people have immersed themselves in the stories of the league of legends world because of Arcane. Today, it is not exaggerated to say that Arcane was a unique phenomenon of this generation. But he was not the first of his kind. In 2001 the world met The Lord of The Rings, the first film in a trilogy. The project was extremely risky, expensive and full of unknowns. Shooting three films simultaneously, with colossal scenarios, hundreds and in some cases thousands of people acting simultaneously, for years. But it was made, and it was glorious. In 1977 Star Wars hit theaters, brought on by the audacity of a handful of talented filmmakers, who fought tooth and nail to do the impossible, bring to the screen the conflicts and grandiose acts of heroes and villains performed a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. If only what was safe were done, none of these projects would have reached our eyes. The problem with the "entertainment industry" is precisely this aversion to risk, this paralyzing fear that ends up creating an endless repetition of the same projects and recipes. "Safe" movies and series, which do not take risks and are forgotten minutes after they end. Content to be watched, but never remembered. I know it's unlikely that something like Arcane will ever be done again, but I also know that this is a series that generations ahead will still watch and it will awaken the same feeling that it aroused in everyone who saw it.

Actually, Arcane was made on a relatively low budget with just a small team of animators. Also, the pilot episode was made six years ago, but Fortiche then sat on it for years before getting the green light to finish the season, which then only took them like two and a half years. Reference: "iAnimate podcast #90" interview with Animation Lead - Alexis Wanneroy, here on KZfaq.

Arcane is one of the greatest pieces of art in my lifetime. I absolutely love every bit of it.

The success of Arcane is very much similar to the success of LOTR. They are both adaptation from popular source materials, they both got relatively massive budget, and they both got a huge amount of development time. That's the lesson to be learned there. If you want it to look good, it's gonna take time and resources (money, talents...)!

''never happen again'' is a lot of time. It's funny to see such deterministic opinions on such a time frame. Something like that will happen again, just not so soon.

Last year was an amazing year for mature-themed western animations. Invincible showed that you can successfully adapt an R-Rated comic book into something people will flock to. Then Arcane demonstrated that you can make a mature, thought provoking and emotionally charged cg show that deals with complex issues, and do it well. For me, Arcane is more than just pretty artwork. It's an well told story about people and their lives within their world. That is the lesson that should be learned. And that's a lesson that doesn't require a huge budget or time investment at all. Just a willingness to create real characters.

I disagree. It is a huge bet, too many variables, too much risk, too many unknown factors. But Rito made the bet and won. It may take a while, but someone will look at it and say "They did it, is possible, lets do it"

The show has brought very important lessons to the world of cg anime. The main take away for animation studios should be that hiring concept artists to paint your backgrounds is a lot cheaper than hiring 3D animators to build and texture every environment. Only the characters in Arcane were 3D. All of the backgrounds were painted and all of the effects were animated on twos in 2D. Pure 3D animation is only affordable for companies like Disney and Dreamworks. Anime has much tighter budgets and deadlines so cost savers like this could be a saving grace for CG anime studios.

Arcane became my favourite animated series of all time, I was surprised at how good it was.

I respectfully disagree with your conclusion that there will never be another show like Arcane. Just as there will always be accountants trying to turn $1 into $1.10, there will always be risk-takers who will put out their pure undiluted vision and have it find an audience. The latter might be rarer than the former and it might only happen once a decade but it *will* happen. Plus the tech for animation is getting better and cheaper, computers are getting faster, more work can be done by fewer people so saying it wil NEVER happen? No. Perfect counter-example: Astartes.

I'd say in terms of unique animation for shows, Arcane is comparable to a diamond in stacks of silver and gold. It's likely that no other show would compare to it in terms of animation unless another big studio came up and was willing to risk a lot, but that's very, very, very unlikely.

it can happen again, it just won’t be a trend. it’s a bit like avatar with all the creative freedom that it got, and i’m sure it’ll happen in the future, maybe in the next ten to fifteen years

actually i think on contrary, we will get more shows like arcane since the technology progresses and more artists will be able to show their talents with lower budgets. also streaming services will really help here. we may not get a show with 6 years of development time, but we have to remember that 3 years out of those 6 years were pre-production time. for example frozen was in pre-production for more than 50 years. I'm so excited for the future of animation and we have so many talented studios out there. talents from studio trigger & ufotable from Japan, fortiche from france, cartoon saloon from Ireland, sony pictures animation team, Pixar, Disney all these guys are producing many quality content

Pixar’s standard schedule is 4 years, and they’ve gone long before because the story needed work. 6 years for the first major endeavor, effectively a full feature length trilogy in length, is impressive. They let the storytellers and artists work until it was right. Saying animation can’t learn from this is silly, and why there’s a multitude of studios and streaming services producing a mountain of crap and only a few gems.

No one asked for the opinions of the haters out there, the show is amazing and I say is because I'm rewatching it for my 5th time I'm dead in love with arcane it made league of legends look like junior years and for arcane is like just God level like league of legends is down below arcane made Netflix my one go to subscription that I need to keep because arcane is just amazing made me feel every emotion and one's I never felt before since seeing no way home I'm in love and Netflix only deserves money only for arcane like I know there are always new things to watch on Netflix but I've stopped caring for anything but arcane, and well I love anime but idk anymore arcane stole it

i just recently watched a video in wich the creator talks about the "lord of the rings trilogy" and that we will never get anything like this again. and the reasons are the same! the amount of work, money and time that got put into it is just insane and no common studio will take that risk (understandably). and tbh i fear for season 2. we all know that they will continue with amazing visuals but it's the story i fear about. every show or movie that got more than one sequel has gotten worse and worse over time. yeah i am looking at you "GOT"!!! an i know that GOT had different reasons for it being bad in the end but it is just one example. maybe i am just artificially toning down my expectations because i LOVE arcane, i kinda got obsessed with it, and i dont want a GOT all over again. i dunno. and yeah i agree that arcane can't be a guideline for CG animation, because no one can ever afford it. BUT the show shows how time and love for a project can elevate it to another level. if you have watched "DOTA" on netflix, especially season 2, you can see what happens if you rush a project like this. so i am not mad that we wont get season 2 before '23. hell i wait till '24 if they need the time!

I have dropped the like at least. I'm already subbed. But yes I too am immensely grateful for being alive in this time. Riot always did breathtaking things like ceremonies, cinematics and music videos. Me and the bois once wondered whether they will make it to the big screen. I am so glad that it's coming true and I will be able to see that.

I disagree. Yeah Arcane was one that exceeded everyone's expections. But it definitely won't be the last to surprise everyone. It would not come in the near future. But I think there will always be Crackheads ready take the risks and put out a show that would be successful. The thing is the Animation Industry is changing like never before. In the last few years it's finally become clear that animation is not just something for the children. Shows like Invincible and Arcane are changing that. And with ProjectCity on the horizon I'm really hoping something good will come through from it. For those who don't know about ProjectCity its something Ethan Becker started for the Artists to tell their own stories without the studio interfering kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdeBaNibycXbnZs.html

I can watch it over and over again and the art stuns me everytime I notice new details too

Hm, well weirder things has happened, we might get surprised one day.

Arcane had a very similar production design as avatar. They both used foreign studios and allowed them to improvise and be creative. This could happen again

i think a lot of people feel the same way even if they don't want to admit it. but there are a few things that could prove us wrong. for one, pretty much any video game movie or show is cursed and does terrible. Arcane did amazing! the only other video game show i can thing of that has done ok is the Witcher. Arcane was made so that even if you knew nothing about the game you weren't left in the dark as so many other video game movies or shows do. but to those who knew League it was extra special. and another thing is that if you know Riot and their cinematics team they are ALWAYS constant on producing jaw dropping videos. The visuals, music and story telling is over the top! so even though its rare for lightning to strike twice i believe they can do it. There is a huge amount of content to be made from the world of League of Legends!

Hang on, I feel like I keep being told that the whole "6 years in development" is an oversimplification and partly false. From what I have heard, it was so long because they made the pilot quite early (6 years before completion) and then they didn't touch it for a very long time, before they got the go ahead. So... Did they actually develop it for 6 years or not?

See, my hope is that I can creat a show like this. I’ve had ideas for a story since I was very little, and shows and movies with this level of beauty are something I want to make. There’s no way it’s going to be easy, but I want to make something that’s really a work of art. Thing like this and into the spider verse and a lot of animes are really inspirational, and it might not happen soon, but I’m also still in high school and even started trying 2d animation and finding out how blender works (not easy haha) But anyway, hopefully you’ll see another piece of art in the future from yours truly

Biggest lesson, imo, is that executives need more experience in the artist world to understand how successes like arcane happen. Alternatively, and we're seeing this happen more and more (especially on open platforms like KZfaq), artists need to learn business to be able to administrate their own projects (or other artists) and network with the people who do have money.

I see so many "won't ever happen again" opinions about successfull things, that it's boring at this point... what made Arcane so good, is a buildup Riot made in their trailers thruout the years, expanding lore and characters until they could make a show about it. and while these trailers have been appreciated by gamers, they never had chance to go to mainstream until now so, to conclude my point: success like that of Arcane will absolutely happen again. actually it's probably already happening right now, piece by piece, but we won't see it untill it's until it's complete

I guess they just don't get it, Arcane was made mainly for its community that was asking it for a long time, it just so happens that it was that good and outsider likes it. With that, Riot understand that to make more profit they have to satisfy their community. And when they started to think of profit/money first, they mess it up, they lost more, just take a look at Ruination Event. So I guess Riot would get more losses if their community was unhappy. Nxt is that Riot is not putting deadline on this projects, so they are in no pressure of putting high quality animation. The community understand it. To be fair that 6 years was that long because they are just starting and new to the industry..

We’ll probably occasionally get risky shows or movies like Arcane in the future, of which some might be successful and many probably won’t. However, I think what Arcane does is it shows studios that certain things aren’t as risky as they may have thought. We’ll probably see more stuff like Arcane in terms of visuals and writers/animators might get a little bit more freedom as risk-adverse studios try to follow in Arcane’s steps. We won’t see any unexpected masterpieces from these legacy studios, but we will see improvements. The only Arcane-like risk taking that I could see happening is if any other game studios with cash to burn decide to throw a bunch of resources at their own show or movie. God forbid we get a Fortnite movie, but I could definitely see Epic games venturing further into animation to the point of making a show or movie, and they certainly have the cash to throw at it if they wanted the artists to put in a bunch of love and effort.

This show is once in a lifetime achievement. I hope they can do it again with season 2. The thing with arcane is that is not just the animation, or the story, it's the voice acting, it's the soundtrack, the editing, the camera shots, the sound design. Every single shot shows their passion for this project, everyone working on this project brought their A+ game and it shows.

Part of the issue with a long development time of 6 years, is usually with an entertainment company, (network, channel, studio, etc) you are going to more than likely have a regime change or ownership change at some point over that ammount of time, and often the 1st thing the new folks do is axe everything in development so to start new with what they were brought on to do different.

Arcane’s success might not happen again but it definitely set the bar pretty high for animation in the future. People will learn from this show and improve upon older animation techniques. I don’t know how any animator can watch Arcane and not take notes.

Love the videos and all, but like, what's with the derpy Jinx as your profile pic lmao. That shits funny af.

Animation and CG animation has been around for around 20 years is still pretty much new art medium with great potential As in Cinema where they thought nothing could do better than Citizen Kane, time shows that what this executives think on how the world of Cinema is going to be like , they usually get all wrong. How many times have we heard of a Producer say that certain franchise, movie, tv show , wont repeat it self or think that the golden days have passed. If we have to learn something in the Cinema History is that Producers/Executives don’t know nothing except for counting their money

I was a little iffy about the art style during episode 1, but after watching the rest, I can’t wait to see what they have in store for season 2!

the guy from adultswim is applying american standards for a european show, he talks shit but has no idea what he's talking about and really doesn't want american animation to change and do better, he just wants to keep giving good shows like smiling friends ridiculously small budgets

If we could only have one I’m grateful and ecstatic that it is Arcane but nothing to bring to CG animation is fucking bullshit. I really hope that some of these people with all the fucking money in the world see that, The risk aversion (utter fools who are in charge of those choices) in the entertainment industry is a great reason why I watch a hell of a lot more KZfaq videos and then the same regurgitated movies and TV series. Rather watch lets players than any of the stupid boring marvel movies. I don’t play League of Legends and after watching what kind of game play it is I never will but the show is the best animated show I have ever fucking seen and after 24 years in watching animations from many many different countries that is how I feel. It may not be a bellwether but it fucking should be and it really needs to be. Hell it’s the reason I am continuing to pay for Netflix right now.

I've thought this before about other things I watched years ago. But every now and then an Arcane comes along to prove me wrong. Sure, this particular well has been tapped, but there are other avenues through which creators can achieve such feats, perhaps on a smaller scale at first.

U just watched today and it's incredible!

Arcane isn't the first time this has happened. I highly doubt it will never happen again

I'm sure the cost of it was (probably way) higher than a 'normal' animated show; but the 6 year factor is probably somewhat overblown. It did take that long, but for several different reasons. Some of which is probably just about massively expanding the studio, Fortiche, that only had a handful of people into a larger animation studio capable of handling a project of this scope. Some of it is about lack of connections within the movie/TV-business, that had to be established. Recruitment of people in everything from art direction, editing, acting, and everything behind the scenes that goes into making something like this. A more experienced studio would have all of that organisation in place already, and my guess is that at least 2 of those 6 years could be subtracted due to this alone. An established studio could probably produce something of comparable visual quality within 2 years, if only given enough resources to do so. Now that the organisation IS in place for Arcane, it wont take 6 years for season 2, obviously. A completely "new" show may not ever get the chance for such a high budget due to the risks; but an established franchise (just as LoL was) may. Will it transform the animation scene, to make every show look as polished as Arcane? No. But will we, every now and then, get a show with similar visual quality? I think yes!

never is too long. History repeats itself eventually so I have a feeling we'll eventually get something.

I think what will happen instead of this, is that you will start seeing companies start setting up inhouse animation studios, hypergryph,mihoyo,sony and marvel are all doing this, while I don't know how if the ARknights anime will be in 3d or not, the fact that they've developed a team over a few years to work on 3d animation exclusively and given them time to adapt allows them to have some of the best 3d animation out there. I think the issue is that 3d animation is often used as a crutch to speed thing s along instead of as a tool to tell unique stories. I Don't think Arcane will be the bellweather, but it will be a standard for companies that are doign their own projects to follow. It might also help if studios started specailizing in 3d or not as well, instead of trying to do both.

It reminds me of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I saw a youtube video where it explains how you'll never see a movie like that again because of how much time it took to animate the cartoons in that film. I remember that it took 2 years to animate the cartoons in WFRR and it was all hand drawn animation! or cell animated...

The first 2-3 years were spent on experiment with the pilot. Also it was released almost 1 year later it was finished. So with all these experience a normal 2 years for season is realistic to make high quality shows.

the reason(s) why shows such as arcane are becoming so rare is because one of the many key values of any good show is character growth and arcane has that and several others that make it so great.

The thing about the development of the show is that it may have been in development for 6 years, but the actual animation and stuff probably took 1-3 years .most of it was writing, and pic thing ideas for the shows

I will say that a project like Arcane may make one more good season, maybe even a great season. However, we need to face facts. This is not live action, it is animated. They can't crank out seasons adding up to a run time of over six hours. It normally takes multiple years to produce an animated film with the quality of Arcane and those films are at best a third of the run time of Arcane. It comes down to this. If the series is rushed to meet the demand, it will fail. If the series takes too long to maintain the quality, it will fail. This is a tightrope of opportunity happening here. Look at a show like Rick and Morty. Arguably a great first two seasons, taking multiple years between each one. What happened when they hired more writers, more staff and started pumping out seasons yearly? The quality fell apart. The show died, or at least it should be dead. The best projects are great because they are rare. A diamond found in an unlikely place. That's what Arcane is and whether or not lightning can strike twice has yet to be determined, but I would strongly suggest any fans against hedging bets.

I agree, when I watched season 1 I felt drawn into it, but it felt rushed, not in time production but rather how the story progressed with each character changed with the time skips they had in the show. Arcane is still a very big success, but I don't see season 2 topping that in less than 6 years

i do hope that this show will at least make studios think about taking more risks, not as insane as arcanes but in general push the limit. we're stuck in an age where games/shows all feel relatively the same to each other because no one wants to take that risk.

“There will never be another show like arcane ever” Sure about that?

After watching this series and seeing how it was made, I've gotten a lot of insight of how to create something of true quality and perfection. But I totally get how money is a huge factor when it comes to producing movies and shows, especially if they are of this caliber that's unlike anything we've ever seen before. I'm currently in a film school and I have this really awesome idea for a movie that I want to direct and write for with singular vision in my long-term career, but for it to be as good as I want it to be, I'll have to work for an independent studio and pitch my idea there. Because then I would have no restrictions and no progressive checklist or agenda to follow. If I've learned anything from watching Arcane and its creative direction behind it, it is stuff like this with pure creative vision made by all animators and artists are the best sorts of things that could come to life on screen. And I want to do the same in my long-term career, by being a director, writer, and concept artist, to follow and achieve my dream of making something I would love and putting it out there for everyone to see.

As long as we have artists shows like this will prosper

How many franchises are threadbare and end of life because they were seen as safe? If the lessons Arcane provides aren’t internalized by the industry as a whole and applied in some small but meaningful way, the idea of only doing what is safe will continue to deliver diluted and derivative rehashed refuse. It is arrogant to say there will never be another Arcane-of course there will. The tools and the talent exist in the world and will come together in some unexpected way to deliver something that inspires and delights us-Arcane is proof of this. In my opinion, the real lesson of Arcane isn’t that it needs to be a new idea. The lesson is, no matter what franchise you want to reboot-prequel-sequel-regurgitate because it’s safe, don’t suck at it! Tell a compelling story with interesting characters and bring passion and talent to the project instead of mailing it in because you think people are too stupid to notice or care… we aren’t and we do.

I think the only way we'll ever get to see something like Arcane season 1 again, is Arcane season 2 and beyond. Riot can afford to take those risks, so they do. theyre used to taking risks

does that include the second season? And perhaps later seasons as well. Cause season 1 is a masterpiece, but if they don't spend two years on the next ones, then will they be as good?

It's by no means going to become a standard by any metric, but the fact that it happened _once_ means it _can_ happen again. It actually looks _less_ unlikely now, because there is an example of it. None of the hurdles Arcane overcame to happen have changed, but it stands as a testament to the fact that those hurdles _can_ be overcome.

They spend 3 years on pilot alone. Show actualy took 3 years.

Was that a cover of the cowboy bebop theme at the beginning

Please let the title be wrong please let the title be wrong please let the title be wrong please let the title be wrong

We've seen this tale before. It's as old as time. A tale of have and have can be seen in Les Miserablles, A Tale of Two Cities, The Expanse... It's just what you inject into those stories that make it stand out.

With attack on titan ending this really got me excited for somthing new again like it really does feel like I was a child watching this for the first time omg it was so good

0:26 kind of looks like some episodes of LOVE, DEATH + ROBOTS

I like this artstyle, WoW cinematics are kinda like it. At first I was a bit unsure, but danm this style could really go places

Honestly I don’t agree every once in a while things like this can happen like lord of the rings for example it not common for studios to take risks but tbh it’s also quite unlikely that we will never get something like this again especially with developing technology that might make it easier and less of a risk in the future

All we need in any show is basic writing competence. The only reason not to do it is if executives despise making money. Shows that don't suck make money all the time.

There will never be another show like it again" - do you have any idea how many times I've heard that line uttered? This is where being old works in my favour: No you can 100% have shows like this again, From ATLA to AT to Arcane you just need to put in the work. It requires a METICULOUS attention to detail, collaboration on story and not being risk averse. All the great show which have stood the test of time have proven this. That's the formula. If you don't believe me, Hasbeen Hotel exists. Show and story telling is a labour of love. When the production reflects that, you get great stories.

Nah, we will see shows like that pretty soon. Costs of animation dropped drastically and are still going down Pretty soon AI will be able to simplify the process and reduce the costs of making an animated show even more. So yeah making a show like Arcane was a very big risk NOW, it won't be such a big risk in 5 or 10 years. Soon smaller indie animation studios will be able to do pretty amazing stuff and take risks with more interesting stories. Did you seen "Astartes Project"? It was one incredibly talented guy who did that. Look at video games, I very rarely play AAA games anymore, there is plenty of amazing indie games that have way more heart, tell better stories or simply are more fun. I think something similar will happen with animated show.

They say it like we didn't have this like ten years ago when TLA did almost the exact same thing and the orignal is still a huge beloved property now. The risk *is* worth it and has paid off multiple times, both in western and Eastern animation. It's just that they want investments with immediate returns rather than ones that take time to get that quality that audiences crave and hold onto for years.

honestly, what this cost was peanuts for riot, riot is looking for more players, they didn't care about RIO, they want people talking about the characters and maybe just maybe they become interested in the came which is where they really make their money with the micro transactions. this show was meant for the fans, if you look at any of the other productions this show was simply a cherry-on-top of what we are use to.

As a 3D modeling and animation student whose about to graduate college. The art is amazing, I keep rewatching scenes because of the artistic decisions. Also I can say as a modeler I think this will happen again. We have seen now that it can work, and so I would not be surprised if they push it even more. We have already seen 3D animated shoes be made thousands of times now. It’s just putting new story’s now. Riot took this long because they don’t have a tv sized team. But we have already seen people make this quality of work before for tv shows that didn’t take this long to make. And especially with tv slowly dying and streaming services taking over. The risks don’t really exist anymore. I 100% believe something like arcane will happen again because we have seen it happen, and for artist that’s enough for us to do it again. Hell the best part about being a 3D artist is that I get to make stuff no one has ever made before. I get shit by people telling me I can’t make something because it hasn’t been made before, my most recent example is a purple trident. I was told it wouldn’t work as a metal trident because there’s not a reference to use, but I did it anyway, and it looks badass. I would be very surprised if this didn’t happen again. Also people need to stop calling this a cg anime. This is 3D animation done with some amazing 3D models, and overall 3D artwork. None of this fits the style of anime, which is an art style and not a genre. Calling this a cg anime takes away from the work that was put into this.

I find his criticism weird like he didn't know this backed by the ip holders saying things like other companies will be too risk averse is like saying the lego company will be too risk averse to make the lego movie, and saying its too expensive to learn anything from is like saying theres nothing to learn from disney unless you have a multimillion dollar budget when even students can and do use those techniques. This guys comments are so strange to me. But then I suppose people also said breath of the wild wouldn't influence other games, that it couldn't be replicated by anyone else.

The thing I think worked best for Arcane wasn't just it's animation or story, but it's structure of 3 act arcs for the 9 episode total. 3 episodes just seemed like the perfect build up and climax length. From beginning, middle, and an end. And each were just as satisfying as the other. I think if shows repeat that format they'd find somewhat similar success in their own shows.

All I hope is that Season 2 is as good as season 1, if not better.

Imagine how much creativity we could see come to life if money wasn't a major factor in everyones life- I think Arcane is a glimpse into that world, of what could be possible to create, if not even better.

I agree with him. Movies and shows are in an investment. It's all ROI. Arcane was a labor of love and Riot threw away a ton of money making this.

They risked everything and it came out to be amazing but i Think we like this show bc of how intense it is and how The small details this show has

It all depends on season 2 not being sad like the cliffhanger.

Arcane is the best TV series I have ever seen. and I've seen many.

I think because of Arcane's success, there will be more shows in the future that will come close, be equal to or have more success, because Arcane set a new bar, and us humans always reach for whatever is proven to be possible.

I'm a big fan of Viva La Dirt League and a backer for their short film. I agree it probably would be a long, long time before we might get to see another Arcane, but I feel that the power of crowdfunding and fandom could also make niche art that would have been too risky for business...possible, when done for smaller scale audiences without profit in mind.

I think the lesson that Arcane brings to the world remains that anime could be so much better, if the artists would get a chance. But they don't. That's the lesson.

I think arcane, like most passion projects that end up breaking many many many molds in their industries and genres in terms of storytelling, aesthetic, and budget, is a stunning masterpiece. Studio Fortiche and Riot have truly set a very high bar showing what is possible with 3d animation. Arcane took 6 years to make and in that time the tools animators have at their disposal have also come a long way. With Arcane to set an example as the end product, I'm sure there will be people who are able to create something similar with less time and money (albeit not as refined most likely) Like you said, I feel like saying arcane has no lessons to impart on 3d animation is a bit shallow and that the AS guy was probably a little envious of what they had achieved and all the attention Arcane was getting. I don't think he was completely wrong, Its probably going to be a long time before we see something like arcane again, especially in western media, where animation isn't seen as a serious medium, and only used for kids and comedy for the most part, especially when we all know the people in charge of the funding of animated series want to go for safe bets and minimize cost as much as possible, meaning experimentation is largely out of the question. However, I don't believe he was completely correct either. I think overcoming western media's existing connotations and stigmas regarding animation as a medium is the key to more innovation and efficiency in creating pieces like arcane, where 3d animation and CGI isn't slapped in jarringly as a way to make as much profit possible a la marvel, but is used as its own artstyle looking stylized and intentional. Arcane, promare, Kubo and the 2 Strings. They all look vastly different, and yet mix 3d CGI seamlessly into their art to great effect, creating mixed media works with stunning visual appeal. I think if people try to mindlessly copy the look of arcane they will never compare, however taking the tricks and tips Fortiche used to create arcane it might let people inspired by arcane to work pieces of it into their own work, and overtime lead to the development and improvement to the animation industry as a whole.

It's a once in a generation phenomenon

Bravo Fortiche !

I do think that there will be more shows, series, comics, art, and movies that try to emulate Arcane's style and story but I don't think there will be as many factors and risks involved, however I do think we'll see sometime in the future something that is just as out-there as Arcane was. Maybe it will come from India, or Russia, or France, or maybe even from an international studio, I have genuine hope that art-entertainment eventually grows to the point that taking risks will become more frequent, that may be too optimistically placed and even phrased in this context, but this won't be the last 'Arcane'. It most likely won't continue to be as amazing as it started, but maybe due to the 'mere exposure' effect we'll still love it, and maybe, almost hopefully I wish that we get more content like Arcane, these deeply philosophical narratives, filled with intrigue, passion, and genuine love for its characters. One day we'll have a series no one expected to amass to anything, no one expected to exist, no one knew of the passion, and hardships it went through, one day we'll have a Bellwether for 'Arcanes' (so to say).

I just wonder how season 2 will match the story telling quality. When a bar is set so high from the start, it's hard to meet it again. I feel the same with video games. One of the best story experiences I've had was Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice. A sequel is being made and I have no idea how it'll top the first game.

it may be very unlikely it will happen again, but it's not impossible

Arcane is like Half-Life 2, it raised the bar, which means a lot of people will do whatever it takes to live up to the standards

Well it's never confirmed what can happen in the future so who knows maybe something takes arcanes place

Maybe not for a while, but it will be rivaled eventually.

I believe it’s narrow minded to believe that no other show now or in the future can reach the amount of success arcane has, in fact I believe it further expanded the idea for creatives in the industry to actually slow down and take their time developing their work no matter how long it may take. Often times in general on media is rushed by a deadline. This small amount of time barely allows workers to flesh out a piece or go beyond their level of skills. I’m someone who self-taught myself animation at the age of 16 and would always drew for myself since there weren’t any deadlines to follow. My art improved MASSIVELY including me (before school). I had a lot of time on my hands to research, be consistent, take care of myself and breaks. Time and patience is the key to improvement, If we had the same habits applied in this the fast-paced industry, animation, shows, designs and much more would have a tremendous leap of quality and would open the door for more creatives to pursue a career in the field

Because video game adaptations are very very hard to succeed until Detective Pikachu came out in 2019 and sonic the move the year after then yet again with mortal kombat 2021 but It was a moderate success but I’m still looking at the box office for uncharted movie and I’m a bit skeptical for halo but I’m hoping one day Netflix or any other stream service on Amazon or Hulu does a live action titanfall series