Gains And Glory Yeah. Izzy went off on the roid game. Shame.

@@daytonasayswhat9333 he was anti gear or what?

HooDRidEWhiteY It just wasn’t his focus before. What produces now is irrelevant for me.

Hayden Gregoire that is spot on. Lol.

The hyperventilation side must be for Scott

Looks like them too lol Legend has it that if you watch every single Scott Herman and Johnny Candito video you'll sound like them too.

Hayden Gregoire lol 😂

😂😂 it’s uncanny

Anthony Clark lololol😂😂😂

Lmao you're name 😂

+024TV It doesn't even look remotely similar. I love it!

Mike Gentile yep, pretty serious click bait

I prefer listening to izzy

7 or 8 sets of 5 reps @ 90% 5rm? Or did you lower the %?

That's insane. 5x5 at 90% kiiills me

Its not great for beginners, as it is a linear periodization method. Because of the "Deload" day, beginners miss out on volume and intensity, and lack of volume on intensity day. Beginners don't need to deload, thats why they are beginners. They would miss out on a lot of progress. The TM is actually great for new intermediates, because of the week long microcycles, as they allow for tweaking on the fly, for intermediates without much experiance. Also, whats so boring about making progress every session?

That's EXACTLY what I'm doing, tell me how it goes!

Damien Sutherland how did it go ?

Philip Redoutey comments are old but I just wanted to say that this is exactly what I did. It was more out of necessity because the weight on the lifts was too much and I couldn't recover anymore so after a year I switched to the texas method and now I feel undertrained... All that volume actually had me fired up now on Friday which is intensity day I feel extremely weak.

Did you win?

I think they're quite different in the end, but there is no doubt that EVERYTHING Rip has ever put out was heavily influenced by Starr.

Otto Kalliomäki oh hell yeah, id add close grip as a variation on wednesday, but id say do a variation thats less intense so that on friday bench isnt too fatigued

You could add in GPP days as per the PIP1,2 & 3 programs. This is what I did.

Thanks for the advice man

This was one of my main criticisms -- lack of pulling volume. This is why I changed things up significantly in ProgrammingToWin: gumroad.com/l/JAoR

PowerliftingToWin Thank you, much appreciated Izzy. And good luck in your meet bro!

Thanks!

The new edition of Practical Programming outdates some of the older practices from the 2nd edition that you're talking about here. I don't think Justin Lascek's version is "better", but his eBook is a bit more informative about the Texas Method specifically. Practical Programming is a 300-400 page book about a whole lot more than just the Texas Method. The Texas Method is just a 30-50 page section.

TexicanMr Yes

you have way too much time my friend

Juan Morales i do a 5x8 5x5 5x3 and thats been working good for me. but jonnie candito 6 week program is good too. im going to do that once the program i am doing know stops working as good as it is now.

12 weeks training and looking for a new routine? Does 5x5 stopped giving you results despite EATING AND SLEEPING well?

A little late but, you think so?

I personally found rows to be a little too much volume one the lower back however I added more weighted pull ups and my other lifts didn't seem to be negatively effective.

No matter

Both of those ways are rather useless in terms of defining a trainee, IMO. You can watch this video for my definitions: Are You A Novice, Intermediate, or Advanced Lifter? Here's my standard answer: In the real world, the only thing that determines training classification is what you respond to. In theory land, we can take a look at your body weight, lifting numbers, real age, lifting age, gender, etc. to hazard a guess, but it is ultimately just a guess. I have friends who have run Starting Strength all the way to 405+x5x3 squat, 315+x5x3 bench, and 500+x5 deadlift. I'm sure many people would have taken a look at their numbers well before they reached those levels and just assumed they weren't novices anymore. It doesn't work like that. Training advancement is not black and white. Training advancement is a continuum. The only way to know where you are on that continuum is to systematically advance through the continuum. In other words, you need to determine that novice programming doesn't work for you anymore, then you determine that basic intermediate programming doesn't work anymore, then you move to more advanced intermediate programming etc. This is the only way to really know.

Consider tanning. What determines your level of tanness to a greater degree, the temperature outside or how long you spend in the sunlight? The total amount of time in the sun roughly correlates to how dark you get. Volume is similar.

oh that analogy made it a lot easier to understand, thanks man

Are you talking about Justin Lascek's book? Justin Lascek didn't create the Texas Method and his book is not the source I was using for this review because... he didn't create the Texas Method. If you're talking about the version from Practical Programming, I'm not suggesting adding to volume day on a schedule, I'm suggesting keeping it at a certain % of intensity day.

PowerliftingToWin I was referring to Justin's book . After reading your comment, I read it in practical programming. My mistake

troyskiez he writes it backwards

When writing or charting a program, a 3x5 will be written that way. 225x5 is one 5 rep set, 225x5x3 is a 3x5

@@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite WEIRD

Late reply, but for anyone wondering; it’s because you do 80-90% on Monday, so it’s still within that range but the lifter was able to still PR on Friday. So basically the lifter went from using a higher percentage to lower percentage for whatever reason the next week. Possibly because the previous week felt heavier than it should have.

Jason nvslknm Chisholm why not take a program you already know and change it to fit your ideal stuff? Like... Take this program, and change around bench and squat... You would have much more volume, and maybe it could work?

Another thing, you could use isometrics to get stronger... You wont get much size... But ive been told it makes a great difference in about 10 weeks... You need ballistic isometrics(overcoming isometrics trying to go as hard as you can for a short time, against something that you cant move at all... I use games in the park for that) normal overcoming isometrics...(pushing as hard as you can something that will not move) and hold something really heavy for 45 seconds in position(you should do all exercises starting about 10 to 20 degrees from starting position, and then move 15 to 20 degrees further away in the same movement, until you are really close to the end of the movement... Do this with the ones you hold for 45 seconds, the ones you just push as hard as you can for 6 to 8 seconds, and the ones you push as hard as you can for 3 seconds... You can add pushing wmsomething that wont move for 45 seconds too... What those exercises do is recruiting more muscle fibers to make the effort at the point you are training with ±20 degreesin each direction... So, if you overlap the positions until you train the whole movement it makes you stronger withlut getting much larger... It has a side efect tho... Since you are using more muscles for the same exercise, giving you better activation... You will probably get a higher muscle growth potential(wich means that if youwanted to go for size you would probably be larger than if you had never done this exercises, altho that last part is not something i would bet on)

40BelowTr00per i dont know i literally can do up to 105 kg on good mornings i do not think it helped me with my deadlift/ my lower back must be strong. However i have noticeble weak point which is lack of mass on lats and upper back muscles

Motivation is a huge factor in making gains. If you're not giving your best effort to the program because you're "bored", I'd honestly switch unless you can find a way to stop being "bored".

It comes down to specificity. The more specific the "assistance" movement, the more carryover it will provide. That is, if you want to squat better, what do you think will give you more carryover: riding your bike up a hill or doing goodmornings? How about goodmornings vs. paused squats? Overhead press isn't as specific as just doing more bench or more bench variations. It is still a useful exercise, but not as a primary bench assistance movement.

So if I bench twice a week, i should overhead press once a week or less? thanks for responding man, your one of the only guys on here that will respond to anyone, you deserve the credit your given.

It depends on if your interests lay strictly in Powerlifting. There is no perfect ratio of overhead press to bench press. In fact, you could feasibly not overhead press at all and be just fine if your only goal is a big bench. I still use the overhead press at times because I find it to be a great general hypertrophy/strength movement, but I don't really use it specifically to increase my bench.

@@popcornto6032 i prefer 3x5 deadlift @ 85% of 5RM on monday.

Original program has it done on vd

Karm A Fuck yeah, I feel like you're hitting something with that volume nod.

Most programs only list working sets. If you are an intermediate, your work sets will be pretty heavy and require a good bit of warm ups. As a mid stage beginner, I've found that my 3x5 lifts take about 20-30 minutes each due to the accumulation of warm up sets (1x5 Empty Bar, 1x5 twice with two intermediate weights, and 3 reps of a weight about 10 lbs from my worksets, then rest for 2 minutes). Then, work sets are about 5 minutes rest to fully restore ATP. Rippetoe once proposed that an advanced lifter might even take 10-20 minutes rest after a set of 405. This is Strength Training, so all that maters in putting weight on the bar (which tends to require large rest periods).

Shaine MacDonald yes, for powerlifting is better run it in a 4 day upper/lower

It's like a reverse sit up where your back face the ceiling.

Can you elaborate on this? I'm genuniley curious, as I'm debating whether to give TM a shot.

@@popcornto6032 Cheers man, I appreciate you taking the time to right that! However, I've decided to go with the Conjugate (Westside) Method, when gyms reopen that is. I feel like it's exactly what I've been searching for for quite a while now.

they shouldn't

PowerliftingToWin Lol. Fair enough.

buy chains or small plates and bring them to the gym

Ebay sell some 2.5lbs plates

+Michael Kilpatrick (WL) Rippetoe measures increases in pounds not kilograms. So a weekly 5 pound increase would be roughly 2.5 kg.

Logan Pasker i know that i was saying after 4 weeks i should be repping my max on this program which is impossible i failed on the first week maybe im just too old

CTS powerlifting That’s the range I used the texas method in. So I would say yes.

Usually it's too much volume on Monday, try lower Monday to %70 of Friday and keep it at 5x5. Sometimes it could be too much volume on Monday in which case lower to 3x5 at %80 of Friday. Hope that makes sense lol, read through it a couple times. Pick one of these two solutions and see what works, Texas method often requires tweaking. Good luck.

Tmapples Gaming Awesome thanks for the reply I also commented on another youtubers method of doing this and he said if intensity is getting too challenging change it to 2x3 until that starts to fail then change it to 5x1 . I guess you could cut the volume day and the intensity day when it gets real hard also?

Yeah basically I've heard of people doing singles and shit too. As long as your progressing.

Maybe. Not sure that is enough of a dichotomy between the days to be true to the program, but medium-light-programs work well for intermediates. Bill Starr's 5x5 for example.

Looked it up; I see Bill Starr was thinking roughly the same thing I was. He puts the heavy day on Monday though, so there's 3 days after the medium workout to recover, hmmm. I might give it a shot, since it would be a smooth transition from my 2-session (4-5 day) cadence of max-effort 3x5 - 70%-effort 3x5, which is doing the job as a late novice

The good thing about the Texas Method is that you can always "adjust the knobs" on the different days based on how things are going.

The full routine is discussed in practical programming, but at that point, you'd start going for PR triples instead of PR fives. Eventually, you go for multiple PR singles. Then you might reset or move to another program.

Izzy Narvaez Then i guess your 5x5 on mondays turn to 5x3 and then to 5x1

saqlaq96 You would never fail on Monday because it is a % of Friday.

I didn't say that, but you should still never fail on a Monday if you're picking appropriate weights. Monday needs to keep going up, in terms of weight, if you're going to keep making progress. That is the whole theory behind the program. Monday drives gains on Friday. Monday will cease to cause new adaptations if you perform the same workout over and over.

Yeah, if you're down to triples and singles on Fridays AND getting stuck on Mondays, it is time for a full reset and/or changing to Phase II as described in Practical Programming 3

You're giving me a lot of information to work with here. I'd recommend PTW programs: bit.ly/ptwebook

a novice means you can no longer progress linearly each workout. get rid of this idea of a number. a guy at my gym has been squatting 280 to 290 ever workout while "doing" starting strength. he has been doing this for weeks. he heard that 315 squat is the end of novice. he could be squatting mid 300s by now if he switched to Texas method

Good looking out. I just hit my first missed bench on the PTW Novice program at 76 kg (3 - 3 - 1). It's time to move on to phase two. I'm just trying to figure out if I'm in a good spot or if there is something wrong with my form or something. I can't even do 255 for 1 yet.

Nick Bamford no your first major Plateau switch asap. It could be 200 pounds. In fact once you squat 225 you can switch. I have seen more people stop squatting at 275 just because the progression got to hard.

Until it stops working. Most people do 2-3 cycles.

PowerliftingToWin how long is a cycle

Bernard McMillan One week. :) Something is wrong here right?

***** I'm pretty sure he meant like 2-3 resets.

Just do PTW's program. Do PNP1 till it stops working, then PNP2, and so on.

Don Corleone yes, size=strength and vice versa

of course

Nah squat 405 cold dude

Very close to what I'd do personally. I do want to point out that the fatigue percents don't add up to the typical ~30% weekly fatigue. I'd also say that it isn't really in the spirit of the Texas Method for the fatigue to be equal on Volume Day and Intensity day.

Good points. However, I'd point out that 30% is a number Mike uses for fatigue across 6 exercise slots (upper or lower). An intermediate lifter may or may not be ready for this level of frequency and fatigue. I had toyed around with the idea of varying the fatigue between volume and intensity (and did add a note about pushing the repeat to @10) but I'm thinking this would probably be individualized. Would be really nice to have some guinea pigs to test this on. Guess I'll wait and see with your version. Will be cool to watch people try it. Anywho, keep up the good work, man.

Sure, fair enough. But you have five lower body slots and three upperbody slots. In my opinion, the organization is a bit off, but I do think you're very much on the right track.

Appreciate the thoughts

Gary_Sparko cuz it doesnt have enough upper body volume imo