Why the US Military No Longer Owns the Night

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Do we still own the night? Our near peers now have night vision goggles and the US Military is now forced to share the night. There is a problem with using Infrared laser beams and strobes during night time operations on a modern battlefield. Today's combat zones require ground forces to use a new Enhanced Night Vision Goggles system. The old PVS-14 NVG's and nods gave away their position every time they turn their PEQ15 on. Using the new ENVG-B's troops might still be able to reclaim the night and own it once more.
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When the US army recently issued the first Enhanced thermal Night Vision Goggles we found out they give off a wireless signal sent to your weapons point of view superimposed onto your goggles point of view. It looks like they basically added some snapchat filters to night vision devices. This is a revolutionary new way to fight. In this video we cover the military news of strategy tactics and warfare at night. Only time will tell how useful it will be on the ground.
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@Taskandpurpose
@Taskandpurpose 2 жыл бұрын
Who do you think owns the night, has the US Military gotten complacent and over confident? Browse the internet securely for only $2.08 for 3 years - bit.ly/3fqrVXB
@BTRsAreAwesome
@BTRsAreAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@geoffwalters3662
@geoffwalters3662 2 жыл бұрын
The units that don't over rely on NVDs and don't issue them to every soldier. Combine basics such as off-center vision, caution with tactics (esp. using cover and concealment regardless of limited visibility) and knowing not to ruin your natural night vision for every man and losing your depth perception, particularly on the move. PS: Chris, you are hilarious at times, yet when it comes to talking at a professional level you are equally good. Well done. You should have stayed in and would have made a great CSM. You continue to serve in your current capacity and I hope you make some money off it. It would be well-deserved. Infantry 27yrs!
@andycraig6905
@andycraig6905 2 жыл бұрын
Laughs in emp
@thelostpsychosis
@thelostpsychosis 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how many Russian and Chinese people watched this and were like "hey.... We should try and do this too" lol (This is a joke)
@Followme556
@Followme556 2 жыл бұрын
I think defense contractors own the military. Am I allowed to say that?
@gallendugall8913
@gallendugall8913 2 жыл бұрын
If you arm everyone with a flamethrower you don't have to worry about night vision because it will never be dark.
@tonymirarchi
@tonymirarchi 2 жыл бұрын
ROTFL
@Taskandpurpose
@Taskandpurpose 2 жыл бұрын
this is the way !
@afinoxi
@afinoxi 2 жыл бұрын
Big brain
@hermatred572
@hermatred572 2 жыл бұрын
But paint them green for camouflage. We don't want anyone to see them
@domtoretto1677
@domtoretto1677 2 жыл бұрын
-sun tzu
@Johnny_Cash_Flow
@Johnny_Cash_Flow 2 жыл бұрын
Forget NVGs, insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq used old school video camcorders with "night mode." Using a basic camcorder, they could see our IR lasers and strobes as we approached. That was circa 2010 - 2013.
@thepsychicspoon5984
@thepsychicspoon5984 2 жыл бұрын
true and true
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely.
@ls200076
@ls200076 2 жыл бұрын
Ye
@jeffjohnson5053
@jeffjohnson5053 2 жыл бұрын
Make darn sure China don't steal this new tech!!
@archiij1707
@archiij1707 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffjohnson5053 they already have, they have moles all over the country
@68Tboy
@68Tboy 2 жыл бұрын
I was part of an infantry squad that tested the future warrior system and it had a similar firing Capability with a camera on the rifle. Well not as complex as this new system it was quite easy to fire. What I liked about it was you can fire from almost any position you did not have to bring the rifle up to your shoulder. In my opinion the greatest capability was a laser that would give you a 10 digit grid of objects that you aimed at. You could then text message this 10 digit grid for fire support. However, the overall system was terrible. It was too heavy to bulky and broke down constantly. But this was 20 years ago and I’m sure technology has changed a lot.
@adhd_with_pennies4867
@adhd_with_pennies4867 2 жыл бұрын
Or Get a claymore and put bolas or paint balloons in there so when they get near the motion lasers there an easy target lol
@plasmatyx8809
@plasmatyx8809 2 жыл бұрын
@@adhd_with_pennies4867 in real life claymore mines are remote trigger activated
@zagreus5773
@zagreus5773 2 жыл бұрын
@Duffelbag Drag I don't think you know what "remote" means, but ok.
@Joecitizen85
@Joecitizen85 2 жыл бұрын
I was a marine in the infantry, served from 2003 to 2007 active duty. I used the pec 4.... Things have come a long way, it's amazing to see how far technology has come. It's all about zeroing the lazer to the rifle with these lasers.
@alexjjgreen
@alexjjgreen 2 жыл бұрын
I think the solution is pretty obvious... You need to switch night fighting for mid-morning fighting, ideally sometime just after brunch.
@beardly0121
@beardly0121 2 жыл бұрын
I can't be bothered before 11am so if you wanna schedule the war for around noonish I'm down for that.
@ReformedRedpill
@ReformedRedpill 2 жыл бұрын
@@beardly0121 PS5. Yolo #Spaceforce
@baobo67
@baobo67 2 жыл бұрын
@@beardly0121 "Operation High Noon - Do not forsake me oh my men. Lunch 1300 hrs on me". Due respects to Gary Cooper.
@jeffpraterJSF
@jeffpraterJSF 2 жыл бұрын
8 o’clock. I do my killing after breakfast
@weaselwolf8425
@weaselwolf8425 2 жыл бұрын
Why not both. I'm sure thats what we did anyways. The French and the Native Americans taught us that so well 200+ years ago.
@gureno19
@gureno19 2 жыл бұрын
The Marines look forward to receiving these NODs in 2075.
@alinmeleandra3175
@alinmeleandra3175 2 жыл бұрын
sounds about right...
@slipperyhippo7539
@slipperyhippo7539 2 жыл бұрын
Aye the air force already had this 20 years ago
@zygbeee8563
@zygbeee8563 2 жыл бұрын
@@slipperyhippo7539 US realy loves dumping money into air force
@AXIOSGOD
@AXIOSGOD 2 жыл бұрын
@@zygbeee8563 they kinda have to, aircraft are expensive
@ryangoslingIRL
@ryangoslingIRL 2 жыл бұрын
@@AXIOSGOD yep
@TheEBroche
@TheEBroche 2 жыл бұрын
From the standpoint of someone who has used every generation of I2 out there, from PVS 7, PVS 14, PVS 31, PSQ 20, and now the new ENVG, there are some fundamental issues with the direction that NV is heading in the military. Starting from the PSQ generations when thermal capabilities were added, the weight, as you said, started to pile on. Moreover, the systems drain even the best of lithium batteries so quick, it is unrealistic to support long range operations. Threat detection (where thermal comes in) is not the same as identification (friend or foe). For the capability of long distance threat detection, the cost/equipment/maintenance/operational cost just isn’t where it needs to be yet. I’ll take a good set of PVS 31 any day.
@UnitSe7en
@UnitSe7en 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not in the service, so if you get one, grab one for me, too.
@ethanbelton9522
@ethanbelton9522 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine in infantry was lucky enough to try one of these out. He says it's like aiming through a scope in a VR game and that it's scary how easy it is to shoot around corners while in cover. I'd like to know how well or if at all they've protected against EMPs.
@groovy8457
@groovy8457 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength I'm guessing they're limited in accurracy and stability as you're no longer shoulder-firing it
@dess3597
@dess3597 2 жыл бұрын
EMPs aren't really a thing. Or rather the energy requirement for them to work effectively as a weapon is better spent on bombs and other equipment. Really the best known source for an EMP blast is the nuke. More likely you would be more worried about the 10,000 degree burns and radioactive fallout...
@Spectre-wd9dl
@Spectre-wd9dl 2 жыл бұрын
@@dess3597 if you detonated a nuke over the US youd knock out like 90% the grid.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spectre-wd9dl it could take several depending on yield and altitude. However, detonating a nuke over a major power's territory would invite retaliation in kind, so highly unlikely.
@randomdude8202
@randomdude8202 2 жыл бұрын
​@@dess3597 That's not really true, though. You can make a small emp device relatively easily. You can even focus it using some kind of directional antenna, point and shoot. Only things stopping it from happening is being illegal, and there are easier ways to damage stuff. Also you need to be experienced enough to handle high voltage devices. So no, you dont need a nuke to create a emp. Here is a video if you want to learn more: Search "Destruction with EMP Device, Understand and Battle EM Interference"
@Tagbadger3
@Tagbadger3 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing these futuristic capabilities need to account for regarding near-peer adversaries is EMS signatures giving away friendly forces. Ukraine has shown us that the Russians have invested heavily in their EW capabilities to find and target opposing forces. But that fight is likely out of the infantrymen's hands, being the responsibility of fires, EW, air, and space to disrupt and assert dominance of who gets to use the latest and greatest connected technology on the future battlefield.
@zinjanthropus322
@zinjanthropus322 2 жыл бұрын
Modern russian doctrine places EW capabilities at the unit level.
@Polar_Magnet
@Polar_Magnet 2 жыл бұрын
@@gupler eyy interesting, know where i can read more about this?
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 2 жыл бұрын
The army is working on that by working on radios with relatively short ranges but uses every reciever as a retrans. Harder to target from kilometers away.
@Niko-xt5bs
@Niko-xt5bs 2 жыл бұрын
Well Ukraine also developed small artillery drones immune to Russian ew, they flew one of their drone inside Crimea
@bigshmoke9653
@bigshmoke9653 2 жыл бұрын
What's EW
@randomdude8877
@randomdude8877 2 жыл бұрын
I get Battlefield vibes. Knowing target locations from the minimap and the little doritos over their heads. Soon this will be a reality. Insane.
@jagermainman10yearsago25
@jagermainman10yearsago25 2 жыл бұрын
I think one major problem for these new NVGS is the cyberspace part of it, The idea of being able to digitally mark something on your NVGS sounds like a great idea but requires so much work and comes with a lot of flaws. Another problem for me would be the cyber security of that cyberspace network and how easily is can be accessed by other forces or taken down.
@Shinbusan
@Shinbusan 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Apache pilots marks Chinese bunker. Says Bunker marked by Romeo 1 mareker, over. But some squads do not recieve this chunk of information via mobile network and thinks bunler must be far away. Bam. Without marking they would be more cautious. And this is normal in radio networks in rough terrain.
@michaelarchangelthehammer
@michaelarchangelthehammer 2 жыл бұрын
It's digital..it'll be hacked for sure,,can see a whole host of shit happening after that.. tech involved in creating a localized type jammer or virus Will benefit the enemy
@dakotareid1566
@dakotareid1566 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelarchangelthehammer or just a local emp
@lyamschuss8786
@lyamschuss8786 2 жыл бұрын
@@dakotareid1566 modern tactical equipment is built to withstand EMP, the US and a lot of other countries test the resistance to EMPs of their equipment.
@lyamschuss8786
@lyamschuss8786 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelarchangelthehammer for that they need 2 things: know the system used in the device, the US goverment don't use specialized OSs for that kind of devices; access the system, they are likely to be emmbed systems with a wireless network module and, maybe, physical media (e.g. USB, Ethernet). For accessing though wireless connection they'll need to know the encryption codes and methods used, since I assume they would'nt use the 2-way nor 3-way handshake protocol, which cause a vulnerability in everyday wireless connections. Hacking isn't just: "this is digital, type stuff on computer and... done! hacked." the reason why hackers where so dangerous at like the '80 was that the only security was very few people knew how computers worked or, in other words, security through obscurity. This is similar to door locks.
@kentwilliams4152
@kentwilliams4152 2 жыл бұрын
We spent a week at Aberdeen Proving Ground testing different sights, both day and night. We had been using NVGs for years in the Border Patrol and found that when using a handgun the FOV of the NVGs was greatly improved by pressing the NVG’s against our eyes instead of being suspended an inch or so in front of our eyes as required by the Aberdeen’s Night Vision Lab. Also having having the NVGs pressed against the eyes also kept our eyes from showing up bright green from quite a distance. (This can be seen in the photos in this program.)
@jonparnell2684
@jonparnell2684 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually gotten to experience the ENVG’s in a course out on by PEO Soldier. It’s crazy the difference. It’s like cheating at warfare. With a PEQ box and the ENVG’s, first round hits on a 300 m target from standing from the hip. With an M249 and the TWS Optic, first round hits at 700 m. And being able to link the HUD to your optic? It’s insane. You forget that where your head points isn’t where the weapon points anymore so you wind up looking in a different direction while the gun hasn’t moved. With smoke and night, the ENVG’s make it barely noticeable. And being able to change between night, thermal, fusion, and line mode makes it so much more versatile. You can’t hide in the night anymore. Less so now
@Michaelluo712
@Michaelluo712 2 жыл бұрын
Jon Parnell Was it very awkward to fight in close quarters and clear tight corners with them?
@fredcollins8919
@fredcollins8919 2 жыл бұрын
Just hoping & expecting, like most others are, for both current & future upgraded US-ony ENVGs to quickly become much smaller, lighter comfortable rugged/reliable & practical overall for both Army & Marine forces & be quickly mass issued. Make those 2 lbs go back down to LESS than 1 lb & gradually even lighter & more compact, same goes for our advanced helmets & vests & weapons, gear etc. The sooner this become reality esp with our active duty forces the better.....
@GundamReviver
@GundamReviver 2 жыл бұрын
@Dick Izzinya backpack mounted arm with a gun that follows vision anyone? Could even be a lighter gun since it doesn't have to be GUN shaped anymore. (hell could even be Li ked to a belt fed system so your ammo can be from the backpack)
@BigBrotherMars
@BigBrotherMars 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredcollins8919 Fred Collins
@theunlikelyhero123meh3
@theunlikelyhero123meh3 2 жыл бұрын
@@GundamReviver I say shoulder, and one on each with a certain gimble limit so you don't execute urself
@whatsappscambot1802
@whatsappscambot1802 2 жыл бұрын
"The US military has never been one to share toys though." That didn't age well
@whatsappscambot1802
@whatsappscambot1802 2 жыл бұрын
@Robby Dey Do not underestimate the Chinese Communist Party. They are already making offers with the Taliban. All of that equipment left behind can be modified, reverse engineered, or otherwise maintained by the CCP. The CCP can make replacement parts or weapons for all of those vehicles. They have a lot of spies and hackers. The firearms left behind don't require much maintenance either.
@whatsappscambot1802
@whatsappscambot1802 2 жыл бұрын
The Taliban is already flying. That probably didn't require CCP involvement.
@IrrationalBstrd
@IrrationalBstrd 2 жыл бұрын
@Robby Dey yeah that's a lie...
@Blox117
@Blox117 2 жыл бұрын
biden is a great president
@IrrationalBstrd
@IrrationalBstrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blox117
@Roker22
@Roker22 2 жыл бұрын
My unit received the 1st Generation of NVGs in 1976 in Germany and learned how to use them in a blacked out class room. As our Instructor Pilot (IP) read the manual and said; "The focal length is from 9 inches to infinity." One of the 1st Army female pilots raised her hand to ask a question, them immediately lower her hand. The IP asked her to state her question encouraging her that she question she ask may be the question that someone else needs answered. Finally after some more encouragement, she said; "the manual reads that the focal length is between 9 inches to infinity right?" The IP acknowledged that. Then she said; "Well for years, you guys have been telling me that this is 9 inches." As she held up her index and thumb indicating a measurement of about 2 1/2 to 3 inches. Everyone of the pilots in the room just cracked up laughing.
@shenghan4897
@shenghan4897 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@TheBlackManMythLegend
@TheBlackManMythLegend Жыл бұрын
Lol cheeky lady soldier
@nunu4692
@nunu4692 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@frederf3227
@frederf3227 2 жыл бұрын
One of the important training factors is to stress target ID. Ground and air vehicle crews have had a historical jump in false positive IDs when they were introduced to thermal capability. Every "dude" looks like a "bad dude" and every vehicle an enemy threat vehicle. In thermal all contacts look like valid targets. It took deliberate training to remind the users that it might just be a friendly, neutral, cat, dog, whatever and not something to obliterate.
@domg6041
@domg6041 2 жыл бұрын
The human vs. Covenant war looking way sooner than expected.
@bigdoug412
@bigdoug412 2 жыл бұрын
pretty soon we're gonna be droppin shock troopers from orbit
@aevangel1
@aevangel1 2 жыл бұрын
If the Covenant show up anytime in the near future, we are truly phucked.
@joseignaciohileradorna5122
@joseignaciohileradorna5122 2 жыл бұрын
It literally looks like the ODST night vision
@riboflavinfolate3964
@riboflavinfolate3964 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how none of this new tech will be used to fight the real enemies of America or mankind. I guess the jarheads and grunts are destined to make the same mistakes over and over again until they're eventually replaced with autonomous bipedal fighting platforms.
@chaosfire321
@chaosfire321 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, even Spartans didn't get something as good as this till they reverse engineered Forerunner tech (Promethean Vision.) Fiction can inform reality, but a lotta times reality just blows right past.
@voteZDLR
@voteZDLR 2 жыл бұрын
OF all the equipment left to the Taliban, the nightvision goggles concern me the most mainly because they're easiest to maintain and yet a game changer in the hands of those who wield them.
@primordialbias8711
@primordialbias8711 2 жыл бұрын
NVG's are really easy to break, and maintenance is difficult in a country with no manufacturing capability like Afghanistan.
@voteZDLR
@voteZDLR 2 жыл бұрын
@@primordialbias8711 Meh, their relationship with China is going to mitigate a lot of those problems. I think they'll get China to help them with a lot of repairs basically of all the equipment, but I expect the vast majority of it to end up in China's hands by the end of the day. Drones, Blackhawks, etc. They're going to get their hands on as many of them as possible, then reverse engineer them so they at the very least have the tech and at worst they use it against us. They have enough pairs of NVG's most likely to give 3 to each soldier in the Taliban (impossible to know for sure considering we don't know how many men are in the Taliban beyond estimates and it's unclear how many NVGs were actually left behind that weren't sabotaged on the way out). So you are right, the Taliban won't be able to maintain the equipment themselves but China's already made a visit and acknowledged the Taliban as a legitimate governing body in the meantime. They won't be able to maintain it, but China could.
@billjones7223
@billjones7223 2 жыл бұрын
@@voteZDLR imagine. The taliban got armed by the USA to fight the Russians. Then they collected all of Russia’s weapons when they left only to fight the USA with those. Meanwhile they collected more weapons from the USA. Only for China to roll in and help them out. Haha the tollybon gonna be a fierce adversary now
@JB-pu8ik
@JB-pu8ik 2 жыл бұрын
You can pretty much buy civilian equivalents off of Amazon.
@aholder4471
@aholder4471 2 жыл бұрын
@@billjones7223 For real. Imagine if everyone would have just left them alone. They would be throwing stones at us.
@BearlyOutdoors
@BearlyOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
The US Army and DARPA has continued to work on the Future Warrior project. Everything from Exoskeleton to armor and everything in between. It has never really failed, however, with the ever changing battlefield and technology, they are in a continual foot race to keep up.
@lupohutchington269
@lupohutchington269 2 жыл бұрын
Thou technically they caused the escalation
@GeoScorpion
@GeoScorpion 2 жыл бұрын
I have the advantage of speaking after the Russo-Ukrainian war: Meh! The Ukrainians are proving to be better at war than we are even when using our own weapons. Owning the night? That had to do with tactics and not night vision. At the moment at this writing (to be fair, five months after yours) Ukrainians own the night even into mysterious explosions on Russian territory. Ou airforce learned from Israel. Our rangers will learn from Ukraine. We adapt.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeoScorpion After? The war is over now?
@DragunovJ
@DragunovJ 2 жыл бұрын
I love how every, single time someone says, "The US Military is falling behind!"... DARPA wakes up and says, "Hold my beer."
@noflaming6868
@noflaming6868 2 жыл бұрын
A step closer to ODST helmet systems, all we need is the drop pods. lol
@hellacoorinna9995
@hellacoorinna9995 2 жыл бұрын
*Klendathu Drop intensifies*
@g3tshotheett
@g3tshotheett 2 жыл бұрын
No Crosscom glasses from ghost recon
@jeffjohnson5053
@jeffjohnson5053 2 жыл бұрын
Make darn sure China don't steal this new tech!!
@4G12
@4G12 2 жыл бұрын
FEET FIRST INTO HELL!
@chrisdt2297
@chrisdt2297 2 жыл бұрын
Games become more realistic, while real life become more like game. Imagin on the battlefield, you pick up an enemy's helmet and you basically get wall hack + enemy minimap + enemy command and hud camouflage
@justStaticYT
@justStaticYT 2 жыл бұрын
oh no
@maxpulido4268
@maxpulido4268 2 жыл бұрын
@jesus rodriguez you're gonna need a way to remotely wipe the helmets for when they get captured, or keep all data off of the helmet, and require the wearer to input password every hour or something to access the systems. Otherwise, yes, the helmet is a liability immediately after being captured. Still a massive edge for combat, but also for the enemy when they take your stuff.
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxpulido4268 I'm not sure how far we should go. I was thinking a small C4 charge built into the helmet/equipment that can be remotely detonated. Buuuuttttt, maybe not.
@maxpulido4268
@maxpulido4268 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmackinjersey1 I was thinking more like a regular iPhone, but more severe. 5 failed password attempts, including failure to provide voice confirmation or something, and it bricks the entire thing.
@robertdug495
@robertdug495 2 жыл бұрын
They will only work with a retina scan and their eyeball has to be attached to their living body
@shannonmcstormy5021
@shannonmcstormy5021 2 жыл бұрын
The content in your videos has taken a solid step up in quality of information with videos as well as spoken information, so nice job Cappy 🙂
@darktoadone5068
@darktoadone5068 2 жыл бұрын
Nods have come a long way over the years, I worked at MMD on post at Bragg for many years as a gunsmith and night vision tech. I remember the TVS-5 PVS-4 and PVS-5 and I saw technology improved over the years making the Nods a lot smaller, when I retired the PVS-7D and 14s were the latest and greatest thing but we as techs knew it's only a matter of time before countries have this technology, it's like that with any military device, you always try to stay ahead of others, it's a constant thing.
@nekomakhea9440
@nekomakhea9440 2 жыл бұрын
"Troops may have difficulty learning to aim from this second-person view point" It's literally just a gun turned into a selfie-stick. If you can aim a selfie-stick around a corner, you can aim a selfie-gun around a corner. I'm confident that even the Marines could figure it out.
@toddmetzger
@toddmetzger 2 жыл бұрын
I think new troops will adapt to this tech so very quickly. It is practically like a video game, they are already used to CoD, and other shooters. Extra bonus for this tech is that you can keep your head behind some cover, which might give you a little edge.
@megalonoobiacinc4863
@megalonoobiacinc4863 2 жыл бұрын
honestly this seems much more game changing than the actual thermal view, at least from a gamer perspective. Imagine, you could hide behind walls and corners (or other cover), sneak your gun up or around, and see if any targets are near. So you have both the possibility of risk free intel and ability to literally shot around corners! I don't think i ever saw an operator in Rainbow Six Siege that had this capability
@BRUHItsABunny
@BRUHItsABunny 2 жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with this comment however "selfie-gun" just made my day
@YOLO-nx3xy
@YOLO-nx3xy 2 жыл бұрын
real life is becoming a mix of arma and battlefield and squad, you can literally mark enemy positions for your team mates, that's the most video game thing you could think of. whats next after 10 kills you get an airstrike?
@kehrbotrsupporter5097
@kehrbotrsupporter5097 2 жыл бұрын
After 15 kills you get the k-9s
@razgriss5882
@razgriss5882 2 жыл бұрын
25 kill tactical nukes obviously
@qtj2245
@qtj2245 2 жыл бұрын
1 kill of civilian = 1 coca cola. MURICA FUCK YA!
@jwn5
@jwn5 2 жыл бұрын
Eh well maybe.. 10 kills means your doing your job
@DaeganJones
@DaeganJones 2 жыл бұрын
@@razgriss5882 I can imagine a gov official sitting there watching a soldier's feed, sweating profusely shaking hand on the red button mumbling "Oh lord no, hes at 24...". LOL
@J.Allen_
@J.Allen_ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of your friendly neighborhood military tech engineers (&Vet) and I work on a couple of your fielded 'favorite air-based best friends' . Hard to say which will be the better even in a CQB environment. The ENVG video-data-lag is going to be frustratingly aggravating until data rates improve on the system. Older NVG systems definitely have a huge advantage where speed matters... until we start to consider the ability of an integrated weapon platform that can shoot around corners without exposing the shooter. This is a massive win for the typical boot on the ground doing perilous urban clearing. The Tier-1 units are going to need that old-school speed or perhaps a combination of tech. However you can't argue the improved ENVG telemetry is a game changer for everyone in general. Bottom line, this is an excellent problem to have (deciding which asset to use) vs the other option...being on the other end of that capability.
@robertsmith2432
@robertsmith2432 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool stuff. My first NVG was an AN/PVS-4 as a rifleman in 89 Panama. It was heavy, bulky and almost worthless. It was better than nothing but not much more. After I went to mortars I used a pvs 5 but mostly it was just extra weight.
@Lectwar6
@Lectwar6 2 жыл бұрын
"the US military has never been one to share toys" *laughs in arabic*
@SOLIDSNAKE.
@SOLIDSNAKE. 2 жыл бұрын
How embarrassing huh
@allendaniels3768
@allendaniels3768 2 жыл бұрын
Espanol?
@Jampoola
@Jampoola 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahha
@simulationstimulation961
@simulationstimulation961 2 жыл бұрын
If you mean Afghanistan, they don't speak Arabic lol
@jethrobodeen88
@jethrobodeen88 2 жыл бұрын
Laughs in Pashtun
@MbisonBalrog
@MbisonBalrog 2 жыл бұрын
The overlay is like the Predator/Yautja shoulder mounted weapon system.
@NoNotanalien
@NoNotanalien 2 жыл бұрын
Tru with the the little bubble overlay
@cylontoaster7660
@cylontoaster7660 2 жыл бұрын
Now we just need optic camo lol
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 2 жыл бұрын
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter: Intergrated helmet. Crosscom.
@JaredKaiser24
@JaredKaiser24 2 жыл бұрын
now we just need to add that clicking sound the predator makes
@snaker9er
@snaker9er 2 жыл бұрын
wait till directed energy weapons get mounted on a soldiers shoulder or maybe we'll have those boston dynamic atlas robots by then
@tomahawk5118
@tomahawk5118 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, when I was 11B and 11C in the 101st in the 80’s, the only night aide we had was the tritium on the M224 60 Mortar. Our M16’s were still iron sight (no tritium sights). If you were the CO you might have the only Nightvision device in the company (and they never parted with it for even a second). No red dots, no rifle scopes, no anything. Wonder how they plan to pay for all this gear?
@richardsawyer5428
@richardsawyer5428 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought as regards a civilian (that falls over alot) is "What impact will this have on SAR and HEMS operations and how soon? What cost will it be to my local Air Ambulance charities, some of which already fly at night and how much safer will it be for the crew? As you've alluded to in previous films, the military industrial complex benefits us civvies in ways that some seen unwilling to acknowledge.
@daddysempaichan
@daddysempaichan 2 жыл бұрын
The ability to ping and mark spots means you can have scenarios where one person marks someone in a building or in cover and have another person just shooting them through the wall. It'll be like Rainbow Six Siege lamo. I sure as hell wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of this. Pinging will allow Air to pinpoint strike a location without someone having to run in and chuck a smoke or hope Air know's what you want to blow up. Imagine thinking a helicopter hasn't seen you yet, only for the infantry to mark you and get a bunch of rockets to the face. Nasty stuff.
@AC-rx6fr
@AC-rx6fr 2 жыл бұрын
get the drone into the building ping and shout through wall. i know this sounds dumb
@toddmetzger
@toddmetzger 2 жыл бұрын
If you're a sniper with a good wallpuncher, regular ground pounders can send you the ping and maybe even video snapchats of the enemy in action so you can get those penetrating bonus shots.
@roryross3878
@roryross3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddmetzger Snapchat and penetrating bonus shots, you on target bud?! 😂🤣🤣🤣
@effexon
@effexon 2 жыл бұрын
how would that point civilians? afaik license to kill at random doesnt come for soldiers.
@ohhkennny766
@ohhkennny766 2 жыл бұрын
thats assuming all of the gadgets are on the same server, a single hacker could fuck the entire system and expose your pings/calls or anything related to your pov and even see when or who is coming i.e air support or your squad either way its a terrible idea it would be better to just make then entire so bright nvgs are useless
@knowtheplan472
@knowtheplan472 2 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly kinda scared cause if they’re making this public that means they’ve got even better shit that’s classified.
@socalpumpballer
@socalpumpballer 2 жыл бұрын
Boomer logic, you give the government too much credit.
@bobby7953
@bobby7953 2 жыл бұрын
@@socalpumpballer Why would the strongest military in the world let their newest and best, technology’s go public? It’s not boomer logic it’s common sense.
@eggos2713
@eggos2713 2 жыл бұрын
@@socalpumpballer Dude, the US government isn’t THAT incompetent. Especially considering the fact most of our money goes into the military. like the other dude said, it’s common sense to think like that
@Jeffur2
@Jeffur2 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobby7953 Because even with the inflated military budget we have, putting in the effort to keep everything under the wraps of complete secrecy would not only bankrupt us, but it's just not practical. It's called picking your battles, you can either put in the effort protecting literally everything (and risk having nothing be protected well), or you can allocate most of your resources to hiding the things that really matter.
@bureaucratbayonet
@bureaucratbayonet 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the robot that has one of these is what we're not seeing
@sixmatty
@sixmatty 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really great video. Great production guys!
@bluey1538
@bluey1538 2 жыл бұрын
My concern with platoon wide ar, would be ensuring those networks aren't jammed or tapped etc. Especially in a day and age where we're facing near peer threats, and cyber warfare is becoming a very real thing, it seems like it wouldn't be too hard to mess with these systems in ways that would either impede, misdirect or expose troops
@MolemanITA
@MolemanITA 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly, it's again the "future soldier" program, but this time probably the technology is ready, with an acceptable weight tradeoff. I say acceptable because i think that in modern warfare infantry has to accept that weight to survive a war dominated by drones, vehicles, elettronic warfare: that or being cannon fodder. P.s: you are really improving your presentation skills. Good work!
@Followme556
@Followme556 2 жыл бұрын
I think the pentagon has to accept that us Grunts carry way too much BS and that slow soldiers quickly become dead soldiers.
@hieug.rection1920
@hieug.rection1920 2 жыл бұрын
Increased weight of essential gear and primary weapon coupled with a decrease in recruiting and PT standards will definitely go well.
@SirDehumanized
@SirDehumanized 2 жыл бұрын
Solution is exosuits I think. I remember seeing history channel or discovery channel show’s where the military was showing off prototypes. I hope they didn’t abandon the idea because it will become necessary I think.
@sam8742
@sam8742 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirDehumanized Exo suits aren't the solution, the hydraulics is just too bulky and batteries aren't compact enough
@SirDehumanized
@SirDehumanized 2 жыл бұрын
@@sam8742 Maybe right now but upon further research and development those problems could be solved.
@ajrey8457
@ajrey8457 2 жыл бұрын
I like the "it's like driving a stick shift" comment. It is true if you started with an automatic, but if you start with the stick shift your not learning anything new just doing what you always have been doing. So if this does get adopted soldiers who start training with it immediately will probably not have the problems that say a 10+ year veteran may have.
@sergeysmirnov1062
@sergeysmirnov1062 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same for any new technology really. Just look at, for example, the internet and how (in general at least) older people that had to be "retrained" to use it have problems with that vs basically all young people that grew up with it
@ajrey8457
@ajrey8457 2 жыл бұрын
@@sergeysmirnov1062 I agree with you but the vid makes it seem like only veterans are going to get this tech, which is possibly true, since it would probably go through SF first: and if it gets adopted and is standard issue then that gen of soldier will hopefully have no issue acclimating it.
@rainbow_tactician
@rainbow_tactician 2 жыл бұрын
Good observation, this is how may older soldiers felt about electronic navigation when it was first brought into use! "Why use this gadget if I can use a map and compass" once you adapt and train with a new piece of kit, it becomes second nature.
@f124sport
@f124sport 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajrey8457 I remember those days. Who needs a plugger? I, on the other hand, took to them like candy. They were so sweet to have. I liked nothing better than telling my PSG "No, we are here. Not there."
@f124sport
@f124sport 2 жыл бұрын
Whoops, this is for yarden caplan.
@jasestrong
@jasestrong 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Chris!
@Edith_Puthie96
@Edith_Puthie96 2 жыл бұрын
The title didn't age all that well. To be fair, we ALL overestimated near-peer adversaries, but after seeing Russian operations in Ukraine go stagnant in the night time, it's pretty safe to say that the only serious night fighting capabilities that our near-peer adversaries have is very miniscule and probably narrowed down to only SOF.
@fess3068
@fess3068 2 жыл бұрын
We still own the night
@chrismunsonmusic3432
@chrismunsonmusic3432 2 жыл бұрын
Who conducts an airborne operation in the middle of the day…? Those poor bastards never had a chance
@oscarshen6855
@oscarshen6855 2 жыл бұрын
They just can't afford them even if they have the technology. War is pay to win, Russian econemy is shit under Putin's leadership. It's one thing to have fancy slide shows, it's much harder to actually give these toys to every infantry man and train them properly.
@jeffbenton6183
@jeffbenton6183 2 жыл бұрын
Since the PRC has a much stronger economy than Putin's Russia, I suspect that they will be able to equip a larger portion of their army NVGs in the foreseeable future. That said, you're absolutely correct - our "near-peer" adversaries are much weaker than we thought. Given that our defense budget is ~$700 billion per year (and has been close to that for decades), and their defense budgets are lower than that (and have been much lower for some time) this shouldn't surprise us. EDIT: US defense budget is more like $800 billion now.
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 2 жыл бұрын
Russia is a very, very specific case with very specific reasons. I wouldn't count of China or anyone else making the same mistakes, not at all.
@BW022
@BW022 2 жыл бұрын
There is another option for IR lasers. There are prototypes out there which use very short pulses -- in the millisecond range, even using different frequencies. The IR detector then uses a computer to identify the pulses and project a crosshair there for a second. Pulses are too fast for humans and normal IR detectors to see. You can also use different pulse lengths and frequency shifts to have each laser put a different shaped crosshair for each weapon, so you can easily see yours or those of teammates.
@cageordie
@cageordie 2 жыл бұрын
Because of the way a microbolometer works, whether a pulsed laser would be visible would depend on the average power. A single high power pulse would leave a visible trail. They don't scan and reset like a CCD.
@johnharrison1573
@johnharrison1573 2 жыл бұрын
Passive aiming
@calvinhobbs89
@calvinhobbs89 Жыл бұрын
That's what's up sounds like a good 1st step as apposed to waving glow sticks to announce your arrival or location as u advance
@RamadaArtist
@RamadaArtist 2 жыл бұрын
9:19 "At first I thought there must be a computer processor in there-" Oh there absolutely is, the headset is very clearly applying an edge-find algorithm to the infrared imagery, and then overlaying those edges on top of the low-light amplification feed. You can see this quite apparently if you watch a frame-by-frame of the howitzer firing. When the blast initially goes off, the visual light is intense enough to wash out all of the infrared, and so the entire image is just that pale teal-ish of the new night vision. In the frame that *immediately* follows you can see the characteristic plume of propellant that blasts out of a howitzer as it fires; during the day this usually looks like an opaque cloud of smoke coming out of either side of the muzzle brake. This propellant plume is obviously *dramatically* hotter than the background sky, and on traditional IR feeds it would likely be just as blindingly bright as the initial flash of visual light. Instead what we see is the cloud perfectly outlined, with some fainter lines tracing the inside and edges of the cloud, but otherwise it's just as black as the sky. Clearly what the headset is doing is taking the IR visual feed and looking for significant contrasts between a "hot" zone and a "cold" zone, and then drawing just the edge between the zones, making the edge itself brighter where there's more contrast, and doing this rather than just painting the whole hot zone in brightly. This works fine with for a visual feed because the underlying neuropsychology of visual recognition is heavily predicated toward edge-finding anyway. (We don't actually visually "see" the edges in our active vision space, but the way your brain interprets and makes sense of what you see is done mostly by interpreting lines of contrast, which is why line drawings of images that should have actually shading are still readily recognized.) Presumably the whole point of this is to allow for a much wider range of the electromagnetic spectrum to be presented through the headset at once without just washing everything out. Like with FLIR displays on aircraft there's often a toggle to display white as hot or white as cold, because depending on what you're looking at one way or the other will be washed out... this system does away with that problem by just showing you the edges, so it never gets washed out, and leaves enough dark space to overlay low-light amplification in the same image, without having to toggle any modes. But it's definitely not just a straight visual feed, it's evident that the headset is doing a lot image balancing in real time to try and give you something comprehensible, and that's gotta be done by some kind of CPU/GPU. (Plus with all the datalinked augmented reality fusion stuff going on it's obviously got an onboard computer... very much an "internet of infantry" vibe going on.)
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 2 жыл бұрын
It's not pure IR it's IR and thermal overlayed. IR being more reflected light, the objects "glow" more, so if you subtract the heat signature of those same objects the effect is that the edges appear to glow but the middle is dark.
@cageordie
@cageordie 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 No, he's right. There's an image processor in the system that processes the IR image to optionally show only edges. And that's not how edge detection works. You look at the change over an area and if it's great enough you show the edge. It's a non-trivial algorithm since it has to work in 2-D, you can't just look at a raster line, you have to look all round the pixel you are considering.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 2 жыл бұрын
@@cageordie ​ Makes sense. I know that's what you would have to do for an IR night vision device but I wasn't sure if that's the same way you would do it for a combined IR and thermal device, which is producing two completely different images simultaneously of the same subject using the different wavelengths. It's tricky for me as a casual to tell by looking at the footage if the edge-detection is working on the thermal image or the IR image, or both.
@fredford7642
@fredford7642 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative! The lethality of a combat soldier is greatly increased, as well as his/her self preservation is greatly increased.
@nobody2021
@nobody2021 2 жыл бұрын
Unless the system is more complicated than it sounds, I don't think that detecting people in the dark using infrared lasers and infrared beacons even takes that sophisticated of a technology to do. You can easily see infrared with a standard digital camera, and you can pick it up very well with a digital camera that has had the infrared filter removed from in front of the sensor. Regular people sometimes modify cameras for regular photography for this purpose, both to do daytime infrared photography, which looks very interesting, and also for astrophotography. It doesn't even have to be a good digital camera. You probably couldn't do it with a flip phone or a smartphone, but you could do it with a cheapo point and shoot digital camera.
@shockashoota
@shockashoota 2 жыл бұрын
Us military - “they’ve stolen our technology “ Also us military . “ we’ve abandoned a trillion dollar air base and all our shit in Afghanistan “.
@lovejen01
@lovejen01 2 жыл бұрын
No that was Uncle Joe.
@davidlockhart9702
@davidlockhart9702 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovejen01 no biden didn’t . he is just inheriting what trump started so actually it’s trumps fault
@lovejen01
@lovejen01 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidlockhart9702 so your saying Trump caused the war in Afghanistan?
@NarutoMagicCyclops
@NarutoMagicCyclops 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidlockhart9702 Trump wouldn't waste money like that dude...
@colinmarr1089
@colinmarr1089 2 жыл бұрын
@@NarutoMagicCyclops … that’s a joke right?…… right?
@DeusGladiorum
@DeusGladiorum 2 жыл бұрын
A 2nd person point of view would be from the perspective of the guy you’re shooting at.
@Charles-pf7zy
@Charles-pf7zy 2 жыл бұрын
I’d pay to have a scope that showed me that!!
@starstreamir3817
@starstreamir3817 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the previous iteration of the "Future Warrior Program" is that fast prototyping tech wasn't quite adequate yet. Now it's possible to design, build, and test many generations of most products in a fraction of the time it took back in the early 2000's. Now it's possible for someone to take a good idea from idea to working prototype in as little as a few hours sometimes. Access to easy to learn micro-controller systems, (Arduino) and ultra compact computer platforms that greatly augment and even sometimes replace these modern micro-controller systems, (Raspberry Pi), enhances the ability for even the average Joe with a bit of creativity and a strong work ethic, to create some pretty amazing things across nearly all areas.
@rll4634
@rll4634 2 жыл бұрын
Totally blows my mind! All I know are PVS-14’s, 7’s and PEQ-15/2’s. Most of all a Standard M4 with Rails. Those were my days. Hope for the best for new equipment!
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 2 жыл бұрын
" Shooting from a '2nd person, picture in picture perspective' will be confusing for future soldiers." Literally anyone who has ever used VR: "Bet".
@bigdaddy7729
@bigdaddy7729 2 жыл бұрын
Take just few seconds to adjust new reality
@mrEofPlanetEarth
@mrEofPlanetEarth 2 жыл бұрын
2nd person?🤨🤔
@lyamschuss8786
@lyamschuss8786 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrEofPlanetEarth The second-person point of view belongs to the person (or people) being addressed. This is the “you” perspective. Basically: seeing from someone else's eyes.
@mrEofPlanetEarth
@mrEofPlanetEarth 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyamschuss8786 if you were to shoot somebody from "the 2nd perspective", this would mean you would see yourself from the perspective of the person being shot. So that's why I ask, "2nd person?", for clarification on what the o.p. is referring to.
@randomdude8202
@randomdude8202 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrEofPlanetEarth second person does not have to be the enemy, though. If you are shooting an object and your friend is watching you shoot, second person is your friend. Or if the enemy did not notice you, he cant be the second person since he is unaware.
@stevenwu2325
@stevenwu2325 2 жыл бұрын
Nett Warrior system is probably capable to allow AR sharing among squad level, but infantry needs something like HMS to really make this work. L3Harries got the full rate production contract, and that may have a much bigger impact to war fighters.
@soonts
@soonts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content. I hope the next-generation soldiers will be fully capable to do their jobs without these things too, not just with them. I'm a software engineer, I believe all sufficiently complicated software systems are extremely likely to have bugs. What you just demoed looks pretty complicated. Bugs are fixable but only over time after the new stuff is already used for real. It's impossible to test everything in an office or a lab. Another reason is logistics: the people need electricity, spare devices, ideally networking. A war zone can be a chaotic environment where stuff gets lost and broken, and supplying new stuff can get complicated.
@ryanr2986
@ryanr2986 Жыл бұрын
i think this is a given though tbh. same as having a back up if your red dot fails
@GIGroundNPound
@GIGroundNPound 2 жыл бұрын
Look at that haircut! Strack AF Cappy, better than your hippie look lol! Great vids as always man!
@Taskandpurpose
@Taskandpurpose 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching glad you liked the video! yeah I finally got my haircut situation squared away haha
@jackkessler1886
@jackkessler1886 2 жыл бұрын
It's a misdirect! He's smokin grass! Did he not seem to be speaking slower in this video? Like weirdly slower? Maybe I watch too much of this man and I'm hearing shit. Nothing but love for Cappy.
@ComfortsSpecter
@ComfortsSpecter 2 жыл бұрын
The us military: *starts looking more and more like a near future FPS* Me: “Just like the simulations” Real Ghost recon: Future Soldier vibes up in here
@retingo7940
@retingo7940 2 жыл бұрын
what
@metalmike3780
@metalmike3780 2 жыл бұрын
we will be like some badass clones except not inhibitor chips.... or will there be
@Seth9809
@Seth9809 2 жыл бұрын
This tech was first shown in like the second Ghost Recon, the advanced warfighter series.
@BraveryBeyond
@BraveryBeyond 2 жыл бұрын
This. There's no doubt after seeing that footage that someone played Ghost Recon and thought "now THAT is what night fighting should be!"
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 2 жыл бұрын
@@BraveryBeyond So real life imitating art.
@bluudashork013
@bluudashork013 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly, I only used the PVS-14s once towards the end of my time in my unit. Which was this past year.. Most of the time we used the PVS-7s while the officers and CSM got to use the 14s. Only guys that got to use any of the newer NVGs were the Pilots of our unit. My unit was AH-64s
@wildbill6976
@wildbill6976 2 жыл бұрын
we mostly used 7's when we first went into Afghanistan, and slowly phased into 14's in Iraq and later deployments; the only benefit imo was being able to swap/piggy back it behind your rifle sight; which is what most of us did all the time as it's just to cumbersome to wear nvg's in close quarters/during rapid movements
@virgilio6349
@virgilio6349 2 жыл бұрын
2:12 we are getting closer and closer to the Clone trooper SW helmet and other VR military scifi technologies. Can't wait for the integrated ammo counters.
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 2 жыл бұрын
When the typical loaded M4 or A3 weighs between 7 to 9, even kitted at 12 + lbs, I don't think the weight added, even if it is up to 12 or even 14 lbs will be an issue when compared to the lethality advantage. I know that ounces beget pounds begets pain on patrol or force marches etc. but again, when I think about how much this equipment adds to my or another Soldier/Marine in being able to reach out and touch someone, and I don't necessarily have to "Locate, Close with and Destroy the Enemy" I can have a larger distance when considering the Close With portion and adding a higher Destruction factor.
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 2 жыл бұрын
If they are wanting to reduce the combat load, it is all the NBC crap they carry that should be looked at. Soldiers have not gassed each other for over 100 years. Even irregular forces like the taliban, IS/ISIS, al-Queda, etc. draw the line at the tactical use of gas. NBC is just dead weight soldiers have lugged around for the last 100 years. If an enemy force *does* start adopting tactical gas, THEN issue the gear.
@Jilktube
@Jilktube 2 жыл бұрын
There's a tremendous amount of hardware in the U.S. Military that demands upgrading or at very least replacement. Despite the not insignificant amount of waste that Congress and the DoD floats every year, this looks like it's going to be money well spent.
@manictiger
@manictiger 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure cancelling future soldier was a good idea. One of the things it had, was camera-based shooting, which may have cut down the cost of this new system, since, this new system is basically the same f777ing thing, but with thermal and NV overlays. Unironically, "thanks Obama".
@EngineerFormidable
@EngineerFormidable 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelSamuel-zx9mu The point is the US has enough money, just cut the wars, you'll get your social security programs, and oh raise taxes by a bit
@Jilktube
@Jilktube 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelSamuel-zx9mu >the biggest and by far most advanced army in the world with a bugded of all military forces worldwide combined, is heavily underfunded. I never said that. Actually saying the opposite.
@Jilktube
@Jilktube 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelSamuel-zx9mu k
@ogedaykhan9909
@ogedaykhan9909 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know why but this was the best video I ve watched in this channel
@straultzee
@straultzee 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool innovations, the ouline mode reminds me of VISR from Halo ODST
@S3thc0n
@S3thc0n 2 жыл бұрын
Marking targets and allies seems incredibly challenging to do reliably. There's a reason modern robotics tends to plaster what amounts to QR codes everywhere for spatial orientation.
@scottguffie7759
@scottguffie7759 2 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't actually be all that challenging. All you need is some form of IFF system, possibly involving either some form of extremely short range transponder of a type similar to aircraft transponders (just much smaller and without needing anything remotely like the capability) or since this is supposed to have an information sharing aspect then the network communication nodes themselves would serve as your IFF since in order to properly sync up they would need the right encryption codes. This latter one is actually the more likely scenario due to the fact it's a technology that is already completely in use, it is, after all, what you use to sync your phone with a wireless access point. Once you have such a system, so long as everyone is trained in how to use it properly, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. There is no perfect system and even such a system as this will have its flaws so unless we're in space fighting something that's clearly not human then there will still be "friendly fire" incidents if the hardware fails or someone just fucks up.
@1985rbaek
@1985rbaek 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be that hard. Computer vision tech is quite advanced, however that is not the information you really need. System just needs to know your position (i.e. gps or radio triangulation), range to target (laser range finder) and a precise compass. Rest is just simple calculation. The issue I see is radio tracking antennas, because of Electronics warfare(EW). The enemy can easily build a phase shifted array antenna to detect direction and range. This is ww2 technology, that can be augmented with modern processors and manufacturing to be more precise. Running around with noisy radio fields is kind of a big no-no. I think that the kind of system proposed in the video is heavily reliant on other factors such as air superiority and EW as not to make the drawbacks outweigh the advantage.
@user-pf6wl4hv5j
@user-pf6wl4hv5j 2 жыл бұрын
@@1985rbaek all this high tech shit gets the troops further away from the fundamentals hard to cover your field of fire maintaining situational awareness and proper communication with your squad/fireteam when your constantly fucking with gadgets and never mind all the extra weight and hindering mobility
@1985rbaek
@1985rbaek 2 жыл бұрын
​@@user-pf6wl4hv5j I agree. As a commander you are already drowning in information on the radio, while trying to command your unit. So a lot of the stuff does make sense on that level (group leader and above) as any simplification of the process is appreciated, whether privates would have a benefit from this is highly doubtful. Digital solutions already exists for the hunting market (thermals) with color screen, these are quickly catching up to analogue techniques and 400+ yards night capability is easily an of the shelf item today. In digital night vision you have less bulk and weight, but today you pay that in battery usage and a little processing delay. This delay has shrunk considerably the last few years. In short range fighting (like urban combat), you need to move fast and acquire fast, especially in room clearing, the tech advantage really disappears, as even a flashlight mounted on a rifle with a toggle switch becomes extremely effective.
@1985rbaek
@1985rbaek 2 жыл бұрын
@@silasmayes7954 I think it is because some of us have worked with computer vision. It is somewhat hard to do fast without GPUs and massive parallel computing (you should aim for at least 90 fps to avoid severe nausea for the user, in this way it is just like VR headsets and delay between balance nerve and eye input induces sea sickness like symptoms). Computer vision is falsely associated with machine learning, which is a way of pattern recognition. Don't misunderstand, machine learning can be a good way to solve a problem, but often there is a (computationally) simpler more effective method already available either through wavelet transforms, computational geometry, or classic image analysis methods. Even optical methods like the example shown with super-imposing spectrums on another can give extra information. However the issue is not so much the machine vision part of the system, it is the overload of information part. A soldier needs to be effectively using all his senses to get an edge on the enemy. This may be too much for an infantry private / fighting, not commanding soldier to have to process along with the other responsibilities of his job on the battlefield. There is also the issue of GNSS spoofing, tracking antenna system (old tech from WW2), that can find the origin of a radio signal. Today these analysis tools are able to automatically update the command structure composition of a unit based on the frequencies, strength and usage of the signals. You see, most modern combat is fought in towns or heavily wooded areas, as this is the best force multiplier for the defender (meaning as a defender you need less men to keep the position). It is also the classic infantry terrain, as on open fields you are looking at vehicles with higher caliber weapons, longer range and large (and therefore much better) optics. A defender will use natural cover to conceal him from his enemy, opting to use stuff like field periscopes, concealed remote controlled thermal cameras in order to not to reveal himself before he springs an ambush on an invading force. You can negate some of this advantage with thermal capable drones, but such capabilities are not widely available for most modern army units yet.
@paulpatti1681
@paulpatti1681 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, Your quality and standard of research is sound and professional - time to be the Consultant you are. You nailed PTSD. You nailed NODs. Great soldiering.
@greatest_bumble_bee_dude
@greatest_bumble_bee_dude 2 жыл бұрын
I get post traumatic stress disorder from playing call of duty 5 world at War on veteran mode. Kudos to the real war soldiers fighting for the Allied countries against others especially in totally different country without hardly any support from
@captainnemo5379
@captainnemo5379 2 жыл бұрын
I keep telling KZfaq not to recommend your channel, but they keep putting it in my feed.
@saladtongs671
@saladtongs671 2 жыл бұрын
augmentation seems really cool in concept and if able to be executed properly will be used, but it makes it so much more terrifying because, like your point about when we were the only ones with night vision, other people got that tech and now can use it against us
@BillBellomy
@BillBellomy 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is tech that will give us the night again. Through my career in the Army we went from PVS-5s, like a shoe box on your face, to 7s, way better, to 14s. Then the shift to SOF using aviation and IR goggles. The future will be owned by us.
@johnslugger
@johnslugger 2 жыл бұрын
Having a camera mounted to your gun is a fantastic advantage and is the wave of the future whether we like it or not. Imagine being able to hold your gun around the corner of a building or over the top of the sandbag and get a perfect bull's-eye shot of your enemy. That's firepower!!!!!!!!
@skm9420
@skm9420 2 жыл бұрын
We've had that capability for a while
@mochipink5875
@mochipink5875 2 жыл бұрын
@@skm9420 the only thing that comes to my mind would be the French FÉLIN system. It is said to have been deployed in Afghanistan (of course, with French troops).
@jackburmingham6716
@jackburmingham6716 2 жыл бұрын
No when you rely on electronic technology to instead of skill you are always at jeopardy and more vulnerable. If it's a supplement that's great but it should never be the foundation and that's what it's turning into.
@dnate697
@dnate697 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackburmingham6716 Not when it costs 23K a pop LOL!
@panzerjagertigerpelefant
@panzerjagertigerpelefant 2 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, the periscope rifles sure have come a long way.
@AY-zf6zb
@AY-zf6zb 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Now waiting for the Microsoft IVAS review!
@jasonhunter6125
@jasonhunter6125 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot 3d recreation, augmented drone data, photon return to see behind corners and through walls, volumetric imagery, etc. All the juicy stuff
@jacobcrowson3175
@jacobcrowson3175 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, you are incredibly knowledgeable on all things you have discussed in the videos of yours I've seen. You make some really great content. Keep it up!
@CurtDegree
@CurtDegree 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t look forward to playing against these in Tarkov. RIP my rat brothers.
@NarutoMagicCyclops
@NarutoMagicCyclops 2 жыл бұрын
lol when the virgin chad faces the godly rat.
@a2e5
@a2e5 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you *could* light the entire woods map on fire to kill their thermal vision…
@NarutoMagicCyclops
@NarutoMagicCyclops 2 жыл бұрын
@@a2e5 If we could turn woods into vietnam then it would be amazing.
@zeldamage001
@zeldamage001 2 жыл бұрын
@10:59 "They also had a 30-50% decrease in the amount of time it took them to identify and engage a target". A 50% decrease corresponds with 100% "faster engagement", not the 50% shown on screen.
@thomaszhang3101
@thomaszhang3101 9 ай бұрын
Theoretically, one can roughly aim at the target using ir laser, then switch to second person reticle overlay for fine aiming. That should improve speed of aiming at any distances.
@retroblade9322
@retroblade9322 2 жыл бұрын
Each day we come closer to Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter. Wake me up when they come out with 3D hologram maps, HUD ammo counters, and the fated grenade indicators.
@g3tshotheett
@g3tshotheett 2 жыл бұрын
Crosscom activated
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 2 жыл бұрын
Grenade indicators will be worshipped as the greatest creation since slice bread. Among other things.
@Jester814
@Jester814 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid sexy Jester814 ;) This video goes over the same reasons why we don't do night ops against peer forces with NV/IR capability in our games/sims as well. There's no point, or at least much less of one, when everyone can see the same at night. That said, a lot of video games don't simulate the limited range of NV, and for ArmA specifically with mods that add limited range to night vision, they don't inflict the same limitations on the AI/bots we fight against, so we'd actually be at a DISADVANTAGE at night against peer forces.
@richpryor9650
@richpryor9650 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it have a limited range? War footage @ 7:00 using NV illuminates out to the horizon so what's going on with that?
@wipeout911
@wipeout911 2 жыл бұрын
​@@richpryor9650 This guy has no idea what he's talking about. There's no "limited range" for NV, you can see as far as your eye can see, even with the shitty monocular green ones the US uses. And the fact that he talks about video games to compare the limitations of real life NV is probably an indication that he's never served. That NV that I've used, if anything, don't give you depth perception. Dark shadows in the ground would look like really deep holes and ditches, and ACTUAL deep holes and ditches that didn't give off shadow would look like flat ground. Especially the old stuff when it was MONocular. But we've recently been upgraded and now have BNVD (which gives you a blue tint instead of green), it's binocular and the adjustable focus on it can be so precise that you can read and write perfectly with it. You can also see as far as the horizen like you've previously said with way more fidelity than the green.
@RCP-1136
@RCP-1136 2 жыл бұрын
@@wipeout911 i always enjoyed looking at the sky to see how many stars there are, but you cannot see without night vision.
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 2 жыл бұрын
@@wipeout911 I remember in the 90's, the Army "gave" us some of their older monocular NV equipment. We tried it out, and while on foot, it was decent, but we only used it when we knew the Op Force was near. The monocular set up wasn't the best. We also tried to use it for night time driving, where the passenger would wear it and try to relay the directions to the driver. We did try to have the driver use it, but that wasn't a good idea at all. Regardless, it wasn't a great idea at that time, so we decided to simply go back to driving slow in otherwise pitch black settings/operations. It was nice to be able to see other vehicle markers, and hope the person in front of you knew where They ware going. But other than that, it wasn't great for driving. So as time passed and new equipment came/comes out, I have seen all sorts of advantages, as well as now the perceived disadvantages. Even if the other guys have similar capabilities, are all of their personnel going to be outfitted with them? Use what we have for as long as we can and take the upper hand. But yes, for someone to use video games as a reference point does seem a little fishy, to say the least.
@peterking2651
@peterking2651 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t need NV equipment to fight in the dark. We simple had artillery drop illumination rounds behind the advancing enemy, it nicely silhouetted them for our tanks to engage.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 2 жыл бұрын
11:30 - Future Warrior System? I remember an episode or two dedicated to that way back 2009 on the Discovery Channel series "Future Weapons" hosted by the late Richard Mackiowitz.
@dannybartlett4225
@dannybartlett4225 2 жыл бұрын
great video and using nvgs on night ops in afgan was hard as hell the humidity was awful trying to drive with them on was scary as hell as well future nvgs need to be snug the royal Marines are toying with new nvgs
@tomleonard5277
@tomleonard5277 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the ancient days when the PVS-4 was the greatest thing ever. Many guys wouldn’t carry tracer rounds in the jungle. The reminder was ‘Tracers work both directions’
@wethepeople2749
@wethepeople2749 2 жыл бұрын
yea tracers only seem good for calibrating sights. Or maybe giving friendlies an idea where you are.
@jonathandoe1367
@jonathandoe1367 2 жыл бұрын
@@wethepeople2749 Or you could be like the French, and use use for the last few rounds in a magazine to remind you to reload, lol.
@xxxxxx5868
@xxxxxx5868 2 жыл бұрын
@@wethepeople2749 I do remember reading how MACV squads in Vietnam would have the pointman load only with tracers so the Vietnamese would think it was a larger force then it actually was
@conman2895
@conman2895 2 жыл бұрын
My unit recently got them. The image is so crisp and clean that I feel much more confident when running around at night. Being able to quickly change from 2 eye to 1 eye is a huge bonus too. Changing "filters" is also very advantageous. Overall they are versatile and perform amazing. I don't even notice the extra weight in the heat of the moment.
@sethg6157
@sethg6157 2 жыл бұрын
Lol this video did not age well. Russia refuses to fight at night because nearly no soldiers have it. China still has yet to make night vision standard.
@truckingjourneys
@truckingjourneys 2 жыл бұрын
For those of you wondering what the first game clip was the game is called squad, and the clip from karma to is one of the squad ops one life event games
@wolfbane8290
@wolfbane8290 2 жыл бұрын
While the idea of squad-wide updated target designation and crowd-sourced position updating is a great idea, it doesn't take a soldier to realize the obvious: that the superimposed waist or shoulder height ADS perspective layered on a person's normal perspective is bound to cause slip-ups and add a deadly hurdle that under moments of extreme pressure will lead to failure because the device LITERALLY warps a core sense which you need to get your bearing. This just seems like a ridiculous stopgap solution that outright ignores our biological predisposition to judge movement from head level. The F-35 helmet's superimposed HUD solution with an integrated helmet camera system is the obvious future because it is head-height, integrates the camera within the structure (lowering the probability of accidental damage), and saves the cost of additional specialized weapon optics. Maybe creating an adaptation that shrinks the F-35 helmet's price tag and makes it a more suitable tool for people in an infantry roll would be a more common sense approach to this multi-part, perspective-warping package.
@kolinmartz
@kolinmartz 2 жыл бұрын
It ain’t that bad. Again it’s not on all the time. You press a button to bring it up. After a while your brain will translate it as going ADS in an FPS. Especially with most soldiers growing up playing that thing. And the f35 helmet camera is not head height at all. You’re literally taking video feed from all around the aircraft. This gun camera system isn’t that confusing. Apache pilots and gunners have had to adjust to this since the 80s. Imagine a superimposed video feed on your eyesight from 80’s camera tech. If they could get used to it with shittier cameras back then. Your grunt will be able to get used to it with the better cameras from today.
@kiri101
@kiri101 2 жыл бұрын
If there's anything children playing video games has taught me, it's that a new generation of soldiers will adapt to this with surprising success, but I agree that there's a real potential for accidental friendly fire if you haven't been primed or trained for this experience.
@wolfbane8290
@wolfbane8290 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolinmartz Look at an F35 helmet again, dead center above the visor is a camera cluster. What I was talking about isn't changing perspective to another point on the body like you would see in a vehicle but overlaying a HUD perspective taken from right at head level rather than superimposing another camera angle on top of your normal line of sight. Also, why settle for a non-intuitive solution that you "need to get used to" when a normal perspective solution would alleviate that extra brain-space which in the proposed system would only get tied up in managing equipment when a soldier is in a stressful enough scenario under fire? Were I in such a situation, I would definitely prefer being able to just lift my weapon and engage from the perspective I am familiar with since birth rather than going through the rigmarole of an entirely separate system. Not to mention that you would get a wider field of view from a helmet-mounted wide-angle lens fed to a visor all without the feeling of weight hanging in front of your head.
@kolinmartz
@kolinmartz 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfbane8290 did you not see the camera cluster on the goggles featured on this video? Right on the helmet. The superimposed gunsight camera is analogous to the system that allows f35 pilots to “see through” the aircraft and helicopter pilots to see through the gun’s sight.
@its2point072
@its2point072 2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the day when everyone gets star wars helmets with thermal, night vision, and the weather forecast all in one
@Splitripstah
@Splitripstah 2 жыл бұрын
IVAS
@effexon
@effexon 2 жыл бұрын
but then they need training just to learn to ignore it and focus on forest looking for enemy, instead of reading twitter and ig notifications there
@matthewspencer2094
@matthewspencer2094 2 жыл бұрын
The outline is a sobel filter, if the heat value for this pixl is waay different to it's neighbor, make it bright. It's probably done in hardware rather than software, super easy to implement.
@dominikwilliams1703
@dominikwilliams1703 Жыл бұрын
I never thought I would see the equivalent of an odst hud outline.... What a time to be alive
@swagy9266
@swagy9266 2 жыл бұрын
Just tell gamers they get to use fancy OP brand new night vision and they will be enlisting faster than they could break their monitor after getting killed in COD.
@user-qe6yx3ys3f
@user-qe6yx3ys3f 2 жыл бұрын
​@Dick Izzinya Dude... Uncool
@belakiss7492
@belakiss7492 2 жыл бұрын
next up: 'how the enemy learned to use radio receivers to see where the EVNG users are' (you don't need to decode the transmission, just the fact that there's a signal tells you there's someone there)
@alinmeleandra3175
@alinmeleandra3175 2 жыл бұрын
no, they can't.... the radio transmission is probably bluetooth or very high frequency/very short range data-link..... pretty much the data link between gun and optic will probably have about 1 to 10 m radio leakage which, let's face it, if you get in the range to detect the radio signal, the US Operator probably did something wrong... :)
@Hirosjimma
@Hirosjimma 2 жыл бұрын
@@alinmeleandra3175 yeah but they're also connected to each other, the air, and command back at base. So there must be some sort of high power radio signal going out, probably via sat-com.
@alinmeleandra3175
@alinmeleandra3175 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hirosjimma Hmm, Yeah, he did say something about sharing video with HQ... if that is true, they will act as any other radio link, for Operator''s sake, I hope that this link can be switched on/off by the operator... and I am almost sure that they can be configured like that...
@JB-pu8ik
@JB-pu8ik 2 жыл бұрын
The new toys that the DoD is coming up with are fascinating, but I also worry about two things. Basically the two things I would use if I was a peer/near-peer power and wanted to escalate a conflict and create an advantage for myself: EMP & Shooting down GPS and communication satellites. How hardened is all of this stuff, and to what extent does it still operate when cut off from the US communications, surveillance, and GPS umbrella? Frankly, how well does our current doctrine stand up under those same conditions?
@ve3etu
@ve3etu 2 жыл бұрын
and promptly deployed their jammers. .. *BANG!*
@kentwilliams4152
@kentwilliams4152 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that the fellow behind you in that last scene is smiling. I would too if I was told to pose for a photo with the lens covers on! 😳
@UnitSe7en
@UnitSe7en 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the edge detection is NOT an algorithm but a natural result of the two modes makes it _eminently_ useful. Edge detection itself might be a nice feature, but by highlighting only thermal differences it's like Robocop vision or something. I'm paying attention to the videos and it's quite, quite good. I would love that ability if I had to fight. This whole gun camera idea though, I don't know.
@BertoldVdb
@BertoldVdb Жыл бұрын
The fusing of the image is purely analog, with a small screen showing the thermal image being reflected into the IIT. However, the thermal edge detection is software. There is another mode where it shows the thermal as is, then the whole hot object lights up.
@skyungjae
@skyungjae 2 жыл бұрын
It won't be long before everyone has thermal too. I recently upgraded one of my hunting scopes from NV to thermal. It's getting more and more affordable.
@georgebanuelos1
@georgebanuelos1 2 жыл бұрын
How much was it?
@skyungjae
@skyungjae 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgebanuelos1 just under a grand after tax and shipping.
@bigfoothunter8080
@bigfoothunter8080 2 жыл бұрын
Why the hell do you even need NV on a hunting scope?
@paullytle1904
@paullytle1904 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigfoothunter8080 want to hunt at night?
@bigfoothunter8080
@bigfoothunter8080 2 жыл бұрын
@@paullytle1904 Is there some benefit to hunting during the night rather than the day?
@tobuslieven
@tobuslieven 2 жыл бұрын
When one of these is captured, the enemy will see everything that the US squads see. I'm sure there is cyber security stuff to prevent this, but it's an interesting new avenue.
@specialforces3114
@specialforces3114 2 жыл бұрын
My best idea is for them to have something that tracks vital signs attached to their hud marker, so if someone is dead and you still see them moving chances are its an enemy
@nameismetatoo4591
@nameismetatoo4591 2 жыл бұрын
@@specialforces3114 Or a zombie. Either way, you'll wanna shoot them
@chaosfire321
@chaosfire321 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh, if an insurgent captures a marine and like, strips him of his gear, it's not like he has the industrial base to reverse engineer it. That being said, the risk of enemies stealing your gear and countering you is something that's been with us for millennia and will continue to be with us for millennia more
@MattSloanVMMP
@MattSloanVMMP 2 жыл бұрын
Back in my day, we would change radio freqs every 10-15 minutes and there were challenge phrases used when re-entering patrol bases. There will be a challenge of some sort, and it's gotta be easy enough for Joe not to get locked out every time he needs to change the batteries.
@rodactyl6807
@rodactyl6807 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaosfire321 i disagree to an extent, i think youre overestimating this technology, while underestimated the components availability. but hey, i could be completely incorrect
@denim_ak
@denim_ak 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the learning curve in learning to game in vr. When my brain really got used to vr though it stopped trusting the visual info on where my arms and hands are in real life, it’s a weird feeling.
@Dasistrite
@Dasistrite 2 жыл бұрын
That AR headset gives multiple new possibilities to even cqb environment. Think 360 depth camera "grenades" linked to the HUD could give the soldiers an image of an room without exposing themselves to the threat and just engage through walls and such.
@rolling_heavy
@rolling_heavy 2 жыл бұрын
Younger soldier: The 14's are bulky and uncomfortable. Me: *laughs in PVS-7*
@ralphwillsey1577
@ralphwillsey1577 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment! Fuck the PVS-7s. I'd do night patrols with them up half the damn time.
@rolling_heavy
@rolling_heavy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphwillsey1577 Oh man, and the skull-crushers...
@ThreeProphets
@ThreeProphets 2 жыл бұрын
The PSQ was also capable of outline mode, but no one ever used it cause it looked really thick, terrible, made it impossible to see lower thermal contrasts, and just generally extremely ugly. You also had to constantly adjust this depth buffer to make the thermal overlay line up correctly with the NV base, so you basically needed a hand on your goggles at almost all times
@thetrashypistachi4162
@thetrashypistachi4162 Жыл бұрын
In the 3rd? Ghost recon game your character had a NV camera on his XM8 and could fire around corners with high accuracy, 8:46 reminded me of that.
@-redacted-2214
@-redacted-2214 2 жыл бұрын
Squad. Nice. See you guys on the Battlefield!
@thanhvinhnguyento7069
@thanhvinhnguyento7069 2 жыл бұрын
Gives taliban night vision goggles. ->the us no longer own the night Everyone:surprised pikachu face
@first2summit
@first2summit 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we were supporting them fighting the Russians back then.
@texasranger24
@texasranger24 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think this weird 2 piece overlay is the solution we were waiting for. But it's getting there and shows what's possible. Let's hope we will see a lightweight binocular with thermal overlay for the helmet and just a reticle overlay to aim.
@christopherthornborrow3851
@christopherthornborrow3851 2 жыл бұрын
It’s for the advantage of shooting around corners and out of subterranean fighting positions. Modern conflicts happening right now in Crimea and Donbas are from the trenches. Having the capability to engage targets from 600+ meters without exposing yourself to enemy fires is too significant of an advantage to not be considered a solution.
@robertkeaney9905
@robertkeaney9905 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, if it solves the depth perception problem then I'm sold.
@SerbanOprescu
@SerbanOprescu 2 жыл бұрын
Were the images starting at 14:36 taken with this new system? Or are they for artistic purposes, taken with illumination? Because in the first case, this is truly night (and) becoming day.
@gitchegumee
@gitchegumee 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps integrate the optic lenses into the helmet to balance weight and transmit images onto heads up visor with added tactical information feed? A battery pack can be carried on the vest to keep weight off head.
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