Right

I had completely the same thought, the constrast between animation and seeing it in real life feels shocking, this is a literal child going to war.

Same I was floored😂

I agree, although she was a little too young in this series. She is supposed to be 14 at the start and 17 at the fight with Maul.

And all of the clones were 10 years old or younger.

It does explaine why she became so numb in her adulthood.

If she was old Annie would never have trained her.

You summed it up perfectly 😢😢

Add to that the fact that the Jedi are empathetic to varying degrees and seeing them fight would have effect the people around Windo says he personally destroyed over 1000 droids think how he’d have look to the average person a unstoppable monster

This was about family, trauma, love, and insurmountable challenges.

yeah, there was just something about the animation style that just made her seem older, especially during the later seasons. Imagining the kid we saw during the Zygerrian slaver arcs is just horrifying

@@SabreKena lot of teenagers look a little more on the grown side, i think that's what they were going for mostly in the last seasons of tcw. the actress, although she was amazing, didn't really fit ahsoka's s7 look at all. kinda wish they had used another actress but that's prolly too much trouble for just a flashback scene

@@SabreKenit was her chiselled jaw

@@SabreKenShe was made to seem older in the later seasons for a reason. Do you think she was 14 the entire war or something?

@@Tx2bx nah I know she was 17 but that's still a child, and the actor here being 16 really hammers it home

💯 the animation had away of making you look past it. All the characters had relatively big cartoon eyes, so it makes the separation between adults and children seem less extreme.

Or that scene where she lost almost an entire fighter squadron, a child had that on their mind

Not to mention remembering that there were other padawans her age, who were *killed* in it. Such as when Savage killed a young padawans master in front of him, and then slaughtering him. (I'm guessing it's a he) seeing so much death can cause serious trauma, that we kinda got to see with the three young padawans being hunted in two episodes, having to watch people die in front of them, while almost dying themselves.

But the age accelation is real- meaning it also ages the brain so they are genuinly the age they are

They're still essentialy slaves and ofc training children for war without a choice to any civilan live is in a sense rasing child soilders

The clones are a little different they were genetically engineered to remove things like PTSD and other psychological disorders brought on by combat under Lucas they were also a little more robotic orders from a superior officer were basically like a command from god him self it’s why they were able to carry out order 66 there was no anger or fear to worn the Jedi through the force the only reason the republic used them instead of droids was they could adapt faster order a droid to get to the other side of a wall they will walk through it a clone will climb over or go around depending on the clone

@@catsaresocute650Their lack of life experiences outside of war basically makes the clones child-like despite having adult brains.

@@D2RCRarguably infants, as even most 7-9 year olds have some previous worldy experiences, even if its like 3 years. Outside of war related experiences (I call the Kamino training and sims war on decaf) they are basically the equivalent of a young child at daycare, its even sorta seen at the beginning of the war with how they speak and act outside of normal military operations. They rarely hold “meaningful” conversations because they don’t really know how to talk about anything not mission relevant, start drawing and painting, or “making messes”, in attempts to start finding who they are.

It really speaks to this point when he says something about when he was a padawan they were teaching him to be a peacekeeper, now he’s training his padawan to be a warrior. Definitely fueled by the dark side.

Were they fools or was Sdious more powerful than anyone realized? We're seeing Echoes long after his downfall. Vader, Ashoka wondering if she's destined for such a path if even only for a moment and the tendrils of his First Order taking advantage of The New Republics clunky obliviousness and corruption. Hate the man if you must but he's truly one of the most scary and powerful Sith simply because he made a legacy that keeps spreading the taint of the Darkside. On par with Sadow and Bane in that he doesn't need to be there to see what happened and it still continues long after his downfall. Truly Sidious' scheme is darkly masterful in it's construction as much as it's execution.

What should they have to do? There was a full scale war put in motion by the separatists and Palpatine's scheming. Entire planetary systems set on fire, they reacted with the only tools they have at their disposal (the clones army). But what would have happened if they decided to withdraw and let the separatists army have their way? Probably Palpatine would just get the clones army lead and hunted the Jedi down just the same.

Yes. The darkside was tainting their thoughts during the war, until Anakin/Vader kills palpatine, he himself was in this trance.

It was both Palpatine's schemes and the Jedi being a bit arrogant, short sighted, and a little naive.

@@jamesarnold7253the council could have looked past that “rule”. Being that ahsoka was framed and chose to leave where as she would have become a knight right after whicwould have given anakin master. The council failed at damn near everything if you think about it. They became clouded by the very dark side itself they warned about and became so arrogant to think the sith were extinct that they couldn’t see evil of it smacked them across the face. Their whole concept and culture was dogmatic and dooku knew. Dooku would have been a much better head master than yoda.

Being a war hero does not make you a Jedi Master

​@@elpopman2055It should when you did what Anakin did

@@elpopman2055 He wasn't just a war hero though, he was also the Chosen One. And the Jedi kept telling him that, over and over again, but even as the Chosen One, the Council still refused to make him a master.

A lot of the masters on the council didn’t deserve to be masters with the exception of a few such as Plo. Anakin too didn’t deserve the rank of master

with the ease and flow of how he moved, and his expressions in some of the shots, I feel like i can see Hayden relishing a bit at getting to show off those fighting skills again and it's so fun lol. I hope he had fun with it because it was a joy a to watch

Saint Joan of Arc be like

Facts

@@RazorO2Productions She never commanded any soldier directly. There just to raise moral, not fight.

It would be like putting a elite combat unit in the hands of a bunch of Monks.

@@painlord2k To be fair, a lot of medieval kings were also only slightly older than Joan when they went to war. Henry 5th put down a rebellion and took an arrow to the face at age 17.

And with Ezra saving Ahsoka's life, there is now officially two different timelines in the Star Wars universe. I would hope the timeline where she dies at Vader's hands is where the sequel trilogy is and this timeline is the one where it doesn't exist. I was hoping they would utilize that aspect in the World Between Worlds. That way you don't offend anyone who liked the sequels because they exist in one timeline and with this show and Mandalorian and Grogu anything is possible in the future in this second timeline.

If they were normal people I’d agree but they were genetically engineered for war they didn’t get things like PTSD and they few who made it through the war went on to be bounty hunters or mercenary’s war was what they were made for and it’s the world they wanted

@@cieranthane1 Interesting Ahsoka tried to save Anakin but could not defeat Vader on her second time Anakin may have save Ahsoka?

@@cieranthane1 I don't think there's two different timelines. There's only one timeline and Ahsoka has always been destined to be taken out to the WBW at that moment by Ezra. Even before we see WBW in season 4, in the original season 2 finale of that battle with Darth Vader on Malachor, the very final shot was shown with Ahsoka leaving the ruins of the temple very much alive. So even when there's this whole talk about Ahsoka died sacrificing herself to let Ezra escape, I was confused why people are talking that way, because I saw at the last shot of Ahsoka very much alive walking towards the hole to get out of the ruins. The WBW arc to me was just to explain "How" Ahsoka survived Malachor and it also explained that Ahsoka was returned to the point in time after the sith temple was destroyed. Hence explained that final scene in the original season 2 finale. So no, I don't think there's 2 different timelines. Ahsoka has always been destined to survive and that the force guides those that it wills to fulfill their purpose. Sequel trilogy happens the way they happened. No matter how much we hate it, it happens. I would think Ahsoka probably be dead by then but through natural causes or in battle somewhere that we don't know. But not died at the hands of Vader at Malachor, or even be at any other time. Sequel trilogy occurs 30+ years after ROTJ. And Ahsoka was born 36 BBY. She would have been over 70 years old by then so either she's too old to do anything about what happens in Sequel trilogy, or that she died naturally sometime before that which again explains how she can speak through the force to Rey in that final duel.

I don't think you're taking into fact that although they were biologically 10 years old they were still adults.

Thank you for saying it so well. I feel like I need a hug right now.

As someone with many veteran family members some of which were in battle at 17 you're comment means a lot to me. Especially your usage of "grok". War is not really seen or understood, it's groked, which makes it even worse for those to young to do so.

Knew I'd seen her before.

She's also gonna be Tiny Tina in the upcoming Borderlands movie.

But in appearance she doesn't look like Асоку,

Cal Kestis was 12.

Where the hell do you get 1.7 BILLION clones???

​@@rumblefish9Lord...really

@kippgoeden There were 3 million units. Each unit consisted of 576 clones.

Anakin was 20 or 21, not 19. He was 22 in ROTS

That was the battle of Ryloth, which I believe is the battle they were showing in this episode. This was probably one of the most traumatizing moments of her life.

@@ruffscetchthank you… I felt like she was directly referring to this episode/moment of her life.

"We" as in first-world countries. A quarter of the world's armed forces still use child soldiers. With all the casualties the war had and how inexperienced the order was in wartime, I'm not surprised that they grabbed promising padawans and had them go to war.

@@Teknanam I left out Germany using child soldiers in WW2. If a country is losing a war and running out of men they get desperate and use kids sometimes.

@@Da219StarWarsGuy Cal Kestis was 12. There's a part in Jedi Fallen Order where Cere tells him. "You were a child when they sent you out to war. You have never known anything else other than being a weapon." Fallen Order and Survivor were brilliant in showing survivor's guilt, ptsd and trauma. Filoni even borrowed some things

@@Da219StarWarsGuy I'd implore you to look at much of the African Continent, non-State militaries in the Middle East and Asian-Pacific regions, Central and South America State and non-State actors over the last century, the factions during the Yugoslav Dissolution Wars of the 1990's to today, and hell, even the non-State "militias" that make up the gangs in "Modern Western Nations." Child Soldiers are really damned common in the modern world.

​@@Da219StarWarsGuy We (The United States) used to send 14 year olds to war all the time. This 18 year old minimum (17 with Parental consent) is a relatively new thing, homie. Point in case John Lincoln Clem enlisted into the Union Army at 12 years old where he was promoted to the rank of Sgt. There where drummer boys as young as 10 and even the navy had children.

I didn’t know that, that’s crazy to think Anakin was the same age as Obi-Wan was when he beat Maul and had that amount of power.

You realise anakin was actually the good guy the whole time. The jedi disgust me more and more. Anakin was truly special and ahsoka too.

​@uchia4206 I see what you mean. And I understand. Funny thing about what you said is that, I have thought about this for more than 5 years, maybe 7+ years. The jedi order is messed up. The exact same goes to the republic. Not just the padawan's but also the actual clones themselves. Think about it. Please, think. The clones are actually 3years old. Chronologically anyways. Maybe 5 years old. I have been thinking about this for years. Am sure am not the only one.

@@uchia4206 I wouldn't go that far. Too much black and white thinking. The Jedi didn't make Anakin massacre those Tusken families nor did they make him murder Jedi children. But they did a piss poor job of raising Anakin to be a Jedi. The Jedi were corrupt and Palpatine used that to his advantage, but that doesn't make him or Anakin good guys.

@@Teknanam Even the good can be corrupted. The wise can blunder. They can be redeemed too.

More about why the people ware so eger to accept the Jedi perge. Also that Duku was correct the entire time - the counsel ware just a bunch of delusional idiots that ware completly out of touch with the world surrounding them.

Kinda wired going from fun adventures in the early seasons animated show to full on child soldiers played by an actual child

There were many parts that I felt as a dad when watching it.

it feels like in the early episodes, Ahsoka still enjoyed the thrill of battle, but as time went on she realised what war really means.

@@limegecko5673it’s also the way she looks in animation, in live action it really hammers home that she is an actual child soldier.

This is the reason I stopped watching Clone Wars after first season. I didn't like the light take it had on war. After this episode of Ahsoka I decided to give Clone Wars another chance.

@@KaiMarcad it gets darker as it goes on don’t worry. Some of the later seasons go into some really horrific things.

To be fair the Sith were no better as they captured force sensitive children.

Dooku is the wisest, and trained Qui GOn. Dooku saw the corruption of the Jedis, and Qui Gon followed in researching forbidden lore. Where he realize that the goal was to balance the force. Dark and light side are neither good or evil. evil is the lack of balance in the force. Remember, Jedi's shun romantic love. Hate is a dark side trait, but the opposite of Hate is not love, but indifference. Love is also a dark side trait. Both are part of Passion. which the jedis try to suppress. Anakin's lesson was to balance the force. he shows that he embrace both sides. Despite Ashoka knowing war is wrong, she is trapped still looking for a new war. Anakin told her to live, but it had duel meaning. To stay a live, but to enjoy life as well. To partake in a little dark side trait, of being a little selfish.

Yeah they always did give off Gohan and Trunks vibes

@@soularprimestudios5930 yea the similarities are pretty interesting

Yeah it did, you just failed to registory cys "perty colors" distracted you.

​@@Princess_Celestia_they just showed you a scene which the clone wars was severely lacking, i dont recall ahsoka ever showing signs of emotional trauma

With Ewan as the actor who's gonna portray Obi-Wan?! YES PLEASE!

good job spelling lmao🤣

They could've had her wear something similar but more covered up, either way though this is one retcon I'm totally OK with. That early outfit had to go

@@richardjohnson9543 the retconned early seasons ahsoka outfit from TOTJ was pretty good

Welcome to life, homie. It sucks, you lose people and you will do s**t that will haunt you for the rest of your life, war or not. That's the said reality of our existence.

@@Princess_Celestia_ yep....seen a lot of life. I'm not lamenting it. It was my training

Wasn't the average age of a soldier in Viet Nam nineteen... n n n n nineteen?

No everyone doesn't have survival guilt that is ONLY felt by people that don't know right from wrong and assume that EVERYONE should have died in any given situation. That isn't real life.

In The Phantom Menace, it is mentioned that the Sith were wiped out a thousand years ago. Yoda is 900 and so he's never encountered (or any of the Jedi) the Sith or the true power of the dark side. Also, in the novel Tarkin, it is mentioned that deep, deep below the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, lies an ancient Sith temple. No one is aware of this except Sidious, who used it's dark side energy to cloud the Jedi Order. They were actually planning an Ahsoka arc in The Clone Wars addressing this but it was never realized. Another Disney show coming up is The Acolyte, which takes place 100 years before The Phantom Menace and I'm hoping they mention the hidden temple on that series. This would finally explain why the Jedi were weakening without knowing what was going on.

True, the council of the clone wars had already lost moment palpatine army was finished. The jedi, even if they refused palpatine, had a huge army to wipe them out.

That's because Ahsoka is older now. People change as they grow older.

Its depicting two different periods in the clone wars. When she has the green saber, its when she first became Anakain'd padawan. Also the troopers are wearing phase 1 gear. When she has the 2 blue lightsabers, its the last time Ahsoka actually sees Anakin, and he gives Ahsoka the two lightsabers. They part there and Ahsoka heads to Mandalore.

The clones were only adults physically. They weren’t mentally quite like a real adult. They lacked experience and maturity. Technically, Ahsoka was older than many of them. The clones were about 10, with accelerated age.