Wanted to share some micro thoughts down here with you all as well. Topaz is a great example of what Hoyoverse should consider doing to more DPS characters. She's got solid personal DMG, works great with more than her "desired" partners, & helps push the meta towards a new light. This is worth having a discussion about amongst other likeminded individuals. Thoughts?

Cool . . I lost her and now the entire internet is bullying me by showing me how she turned out to be exactly what I wanted her to be💀💀

I have a Clara so I wished for Topaz and she actually just makes the game stupid now. Every time the enemy attacks Clara it’s essentially a death sentence as they get hit like 3 times in a row. It feels like the game plays itself. I don’t even have to attack.

I love character that give you different ways to do damage beyond just BOOMBOOMBOOM 200K every hit. (Not saying hypercarry is bad I have a couple hypercarry teams) It’s why I love Kafka dot so much and I think topaz will be the exact same way. Variety is the spice of life

Topaz is a very technical character, especially when you're working with kafka. You are forced to think through the moves to optimize Numby's advance forwards. Not everyone likes that and it can be tiring after awhile. But it is deeply satisfying too.

As someone who never used standard team comps. I immediately realized how powerful Topaz was for Follow-Up. The way I see it Topaz isn't The Hunt character, it's Numby. Look at it like you would Seele, but instead of getting extra turns by killing enemies, Numby gets it from any Folllow-Up attack hitting a marked target

In full agreement with you. Topaz is very flexible, and we need more dps that aren’t just “press button hit funny number”

No JY? I see no reason NOT to use him with Topaz. Enemy: *Attacks Jing Yuan: *Gets hit March 7th: *Turns head Ultimate Svarog: *Turns head Numby: *Turns head Enemy: “Phew… I guess it’s over-“ Lightning Lord: *Turns head Numby: “It’ll never be over.”

I've watched a lot of Topaz vids post launch and honestly liked yours the most. Appreciate the outlook and breakdown. She is certainly a unique character and I think most players are used to the beat em up playstyle by now which makes utilizing a different playstyle or strategies less appealing when you can just use Jingliu, Seele, or other busted characters. End of the day: It's a game! Have fun, experiment, and have you seen her thighs? That alone should be enough to make you want to pull 😍

Aventurine is coming soon and he was leaked to be a follow-up attack sustain unit. Then TB Harmony should have follow-up attacks as well, but they only use FuA when a buffed unit uses the skill. So No main dps leaked for FuA, but a support and a sustain were leaked.

Topaz is the character reminds me that not only character who deals big numbers is a good character. But the way to play is important too.

The funny thing is I like to use her as a pure support character instead. Topaz + Blade + Jingliu + Bronya = perfect 0 cycle clear team. Topaz running full support relics. She is great all in all.

Even if she doesnt do that much dmg i love her team comp with clara cause it just works amazing. I would btw recomend trying clara, topaz, tingyun and asta if you got the dmg to finish moc with low cycles. This works rly well because clara can act as a tank while still dealing great dmg if you can clear fast enough so she doesnt get killed ofc

I am happy to see that the revenue looks okay for Topaz rn, which proves that while the meta slaves are loud, a lot of people prefer just playing for fun: flexibility, deisgn, animations, lore...etc. I personally picked up Topaz coz I enjoy playing follow-up characters and she makes that experience even more fun. And some people would lose their minds about it, but I do play E0 JY in MoC over JingLiu ...you CAN beat the game with any of the 5* characters, and while 0 cycling MAY be fun for some (which i aint criticiting we all have different things that make us enjoy the game), a lot of people just wanna see cool animations and try out different combos.

Thank you for being based, Iyo! Content creeators like you are what we need to be able to see things through different lenses. I myself got Topaz at only E0 for now, but I plan to have her become E1S1. I would go higher but I've been having dreams about a certain green foxian. A game is supposed to be fun to play and horizontal investment characters like Topaz and Kafka provide exactly that in many people's books. At some point, zero-cycling became meta while it is really only for flexing. As long as a character helps you get to 30 stars, they are never useless. They also provide a foundation for as of now unconventional teams to grow on.

Tbh, this actually is the main reasons why I ended up deciding to pull for her even tho I didn't plan to before (tho there goes my Argenti fund, I guess...). I love DPS who can support and support who can DPS, and prioritize those over pure DPS mainly bcs when you get to a certain level of investment, pure DPS characters like Dan Heng IL and Jingliu actually lose value when you realize there's nothing in this game that NEEDS that kind of dmg other than for your own self-satisfaction and you came to realize that even a support if hyperinvested to also deal dmg can kill those same mobs while also support the team and still net you the exact same rewards. I was also fortunate (?) enough that the HSR content creator I looked up to actually explained to me why she actually has potential as a future support and why her dmg actually isn't as bad as ppl thought it is (mainly bcs with the right team, she is dealing dmg a lot more frequently in one cycle than other DPS, so while each increments aren't much compared to the rest, they add up and can become pretty nutty the more FU attackers come out in the future...but of course, ppl aren't going to see that, only look at one dmg per screenshot and call her mid...) Still struggling to play her (bcs I still haven't gotten used to her yet...) but I'll find some way, I guess...lol

Completely agree with this video. So much potential & will only get better. I’ve seen a few negative reviews of Topaz, but they seem a little short sighted to me. I think another content creator compared her to Nilou from Genshin, which is a good comparison - but I feel the increase to damage for Topaz will happen a lot sooner, than Nilou’s. Already my Topaz & Numby is doing nice damage and buffing my Himeko great (haven’t got Clara). Looking forward to farming some relics in the next patch 😊

Honestly the characters that interest me the most are ones that either open new playstlye doorways such as Topaz and Kafka. Or ones that revitalize or synergize exceptionally well with others (such as Jingliu and Blade). These kind of characters keep the game interesting to me as well as looking for future synergies for my current teams.

about that sustain follow up unit, it’s adventurine the guy that phoned her at the end of the quest to tell her he’s her boss now. he said he’s going to penacony tho so we won’t be seeing him for a while

Quickly becoming my favorite HSR content creator. Appreciate your demeanor and insight.

Thanks for making me have faith on topaz intentionally I wanted to wish for because she looked cool then when the leaked footage came out I'd thought she would be restricted similar to jing yuan and making her not as good however with her uniqueness and endless combinations of team comps especially with the future of characters im guessing she'll remain good her gameplay actually shocked me on how fun it was and the amount of damage she can dish out and I believe most people may regret what they said about topaz I agree with ur pervious statement discussing how just like what people said about nilou and many other units in genshin topaz may be in that situation anyways off topic but thank you.

Oh my god, finally, someone out here with some sense 🥹 As soon as I saw her kit I immediately knew I wanted to play her as a hyper carry with Asta and MARCH! Mainly because I happen to have an e6 March already built out and wanted a reason to finally use her, since in every other team Gepard outshines her in literally every regard. But with Luochad in the fourth slot, having two damaging ultimates on the supports to advance Numby, as well as Asta on an S5 Planetary Rendezvous 🤌💋 It feels SO GOOD. And I agree that she’s obviously one of those characters like Kafka that’s only meant to get better as we get more follow up attacking units. I can’t wait to see if we get that magical support! Love the videos as always, keep up the great work :)

I have topaz e3s1 but I can confirm she is no IL or jinglui more a sub dps that buffs follow-up. The problem is why would anyone use 2 dps in a team the current meta is just sustainer + silver wolf/pela and tingyun/bronya and if I have use topaz+himeko just to be able to do what jinglui or IL do by themselves. I hope that they re-work erudition or make follow-up builds worthwhile outside of simulated universe. As someone that has e6 himeko,e6 jing yuan and e2 clara I just don't bother using them anymore but if they bring out a cool follow-up relic set now that make change my thoughts.

Heres what i like with specially running mid yuan, she takes care of the ads which is really nice to maximize lightning lord. Clearly something not alot characters can do if you made a dps support character like asta. Still on the fence of what she can do but rest assured she enables dmg for follow ups

I've said it before, but give me a preservation unit which advances forward enemy attacks in compensation for extra-strong defensive buffs. I genuinely lust to be attacked _more_ with Clara and Topaz on my team.

pure hypercarry characters are temporary. supportive characters are eternal.

Bronya's follow-up with E4 only triggers if the target is weak to Wind so this combo is nice but situational.

Variety, as someone who has been playing FGO since 2015, after a certain point big numbers just get stale. Which is my weakness, i like having different ways to play the game and topaz is that character

Well, after some testing can confirm her lc is a HUGE difference in her damage. The mr pokke video will come out soon showing the difference, but that shit is MASSIVE. She is very high investment but can pop tf off with that investment. I would like to say she’s ftp friendly but… the damage difference between her lc to the next best option is just massive to say that she is. She def needs her lc and an insane amount of investment to really pop off. When comparing her to destruction, people have got to realize that her “screen shot” damage isn’t gonna be as high, as 1: she’s a dps who’s damage is split over multiple atks and not just one burst so you’ve got to add them together and 2: she’s pure single target with no blast. If ur purely isolating her single target vs other dps, she’s on par. My 3.2k atk 88/189 topaz’s single target was higher than my 3k atk 48/260 jing liu. The one weakness I will say that she has, is the revive enemies, as being pure single target fucks up her ability to deal with the revives after the boss dies. This is in a hyper carry setup.

With a Kafka comp, I'm able to hit around 20k per Numby hit, and 35k for when ult is up. Within 1-2 turns, assuming Topaz uses her skill both times, and Kafka is fast enough, she can reliably have Numby do an action 5-7 times. That is easily 130k+. People are only mad because they don't see the immediate nuke. Instead, there are a handfull of smaller nukes that add together to get a massive amount of damage. I would honestly argue, Topaz has a higher damage ceiling than JingLiu. If she is already this good, once another character comes out that has a follow up atk that happens on their turn, or who can act on an allies turn like with Kafka, than Topaz will easily surpass both JingLiu and IL in terms of raw damage output.

I prefarmed for her and maxed her out the second I got her. 60/200 ratio with her sig weapon. She's amazing at what she does

I'm at e3 Bronya, and am dying to get that follow-up attack for her with my kafka/topaz team. I loved seeing that team shown off here. And I think you just convinced me to get topaz's LC 🙈

Game needs more Kafka and Topaz. It's underwhelming that the hypercarries got almost the same teams and half of the roster is just a deadweight because of this.

Pazto Potaz. I went for her for her potential and extra utility. Slowly building her so it’s going to be awhile until she shines but the important thing is I have her now instead of waiting for a future rerun.

The main reason I like her character design is the same reason I like Kafka's. They do more than just take everything and only give high personal damage in return. They enable alternate playstyles by enhancing side mechanics/paths and consequently any character whose kit is based around those mechanics. By enhancing something that the entire team can use and not just personal damage, they will only get stronger the more characters who can take advantage of their enhancements are released, while traditional hypercarry DPSes, who only focus on personal damage, will just get powercreeped by the next new shiny DPS. To a lesser extent, Blade and Jing Liu do this too, with her "selfish" mechanic of draining team HP, just so happening to enable Blade to do even more damage with his follow-up attacks. TL;DR DPS units who buff a global mechanic or enhance other DPS characters are far more fun and valuable than hypercarries long-term and mitigate the problem of powercreep.

logged back from a long break. got topaz on my first 10 pull. savored the high and logged off.

The thing that I found satisfying about Topaz on a Clara team is she fills in the damage that Clara may not provide if the enemy doesn't proc her passive. Clara without Lynx, her Ult, or March 7th's sheild automatically becomes a loss of damage but with Topaz, it does not matter cuz she can just dish out her own damage. I didn't have the pleasure of pulling Lynx for Clara so it was kinda frustrating for me to play her with Tingyun cuz for some reason Tingyun seems to have more taunt than Clara+Ult+March 7th sheild combined. With Topaz, I don't really feel bad if enemies don't hit Clara cuz I still have another DPS that can still deal decent damage even while still providing support to Clara's own damage.

I’ve loved my topaz so far. I’m still working out some of the quirks of when should I be ulting, when should I be skilling versus basicing, etc. But overall, she’s been pretty crazy. I have mine at 2.5k atk, 124 speed, 80/130 crit on her sig light cone with 4 piece quantum and she does plenty respectable damage. A character than can play skill point neutral (even better than blade or jingliu who are both skill point negative still), deal respectable damage (30k numbly attacks consistently), plus a 50+% damage bonus to follow up attacks on the opponent marked by proof of debt. That sounds like a pretty solid character to me. Plus if hypothetically, a support character were to come out that gave attack buffs, and consistent follow ups to the character they buff who was widely accessible to everyone in the game… then that would be pretty cracked for topaz. Plus a theoretical healing support who could supply energy to multiple characters as an energy battery. And a relic set that helped follow up attacks. I’d say theoretically, topaz will be ultra cracked in the future, and there will be a lot more respect on her name during her rerun

I play her with Jing, Ting Yuan and Loucha. Shit feels greeat. Lightning Lord is THE MENACE now lmao. Finally feels like what he looks

Number 7 Topaz on mobilemeta and I wondered why she was so weak lol, thanks for the guide man appreciate it.

Another great option for sustain and enemy turn prevention is a EHR March. At e6 she also heals a bit and kites enemies towards your tank (Clara) and is the only sustain with follow ups in her kit.

Just got my topaz and working on a weird comp with her and Clara that has been really fun, using topaz/Clara/M7/lynx buffing up Clara to take hits and then just spamming M7 and Clara's counter. Although I really want to try a break effect/himeko/topaz team in the near future and just constantly breaking to spam himeko follow-ups. Topaz has been really fun just for everything she is enabling with follow-ups.

ppl really be focusing on that dps(damage per screenshot) action instead of the long-running damage, thinking only one dps style is strong is just so boring considering star rail being a game were the deves try to make sure that different paths bring different strengths as successful as others

I liked her character after her story quest and decided to really wish for her after seeing her be improving follow up playstyle! Oooo you don’t like Jing Yuen. I like him tho but that’s ok 👍but I’ve never cared to use the hyper buff 1 character playstyle so I’ve always seen her value because any character who can enhance other characters dmg is going to be good.

I think she's a great character and honestly ahead of her time, not cope I just think similar to Kafka there aren't any definitively good characters to fully take advantage of their respective kits. (Though Topaz animations still leave much to be desired)

Imma just gonna drop this here: Topaz, Dr Ratio, Clara, and Aventurine in one team. Nuff said

Ah yes, the fandom complaint problem. If a new character isn't in the top 1%, they'll be labeled as mid. One of the greatest examples of this is Genshin. When Raiden Shogun released, everyone was complaining about her visual design, and some even went as far as making edits with their own preferences of her design. Modern day? Her design is praised like no other. I haven't seen a single complaint about her design since a month after her release. Kokomi might be worse though. Before she even released, fans literally started harassing one of Kokomi's voice actors and said Kokomi was one of the worst characters in the entire game. Modern day? She's meta. Just straight up meta. One of the most meta healers in the game. Now Furina is getting the same treatment. Unfinished beta content of her? Complaints left and right. Almost everything about her, regardless of the amount of information we have on it, is being slandered left and right. God forbid hoyoverse makes a character whose personality isn't 100% perfect, let alone a WOMAN with these traits, and the fans go absolutely insane. I can guarantee that in 4.5 or 4.6, everyone will praise Hoyo's writing of Furina and say she's an amazingly written character with tons of depth. Honkai Star Rail's community is smaller than Genshin's, but still big enough to have this problem. Every single new character who isn't completely perfect in every way will be labeled as "bad". It was so glaringly obvious how amazing Topaz would be from the beginning, but she wasn't in the top 1%, so all of the uneducated metaslaves label her as "bad". They should be ashamed of themselves

Honestly my team rn is Topaz and Numby + Clara + march 7 + silverwolf(I would use lynx but I wasn’t playing then) and honestly it’s been so fun it’s not a perfect team but I have been cleaning things up I missed when I only had my one seele team. I’m glad I didn’t listen to everyone saying she was gonna be bad

My Topaz is amazing. I can use her as a main dps or as a sub dps that generates skill points for other carries. Crazy versatility.

I'm a Topaz main and I have her teamed up with Herta as sub-dps, and Bronya and Silver Wolf as supports and so far she's doing great. Her stats aren't as good as this KZfaqr but she does consistently well for me. Her badass tax collector personality and good looks are a massive bonus

Topaz is currently very low investment - I mainly use her to sub-dps for Jing Yuan as he builds up LLC. And it turns out the Chinese player base has the same build idea as me. They pushed a hypercarry JL to fifth place and fourth place respectively. (This is a speedrun MOC ranking if I read it correctly)

Tbh, I unfortunately don’t got the luxury to pull Topaz and use her as effectively cause I only got Him Yuan who’s pretty slow compared to the other follow-ups. I tried getting Jingliu for the synergy with blade. But when using a friend’s, it wasn’t as smooth as I thought it’d be, and she wouldn’t come home. Maybe it’s cause I don’t have Luocha who can heal without taking action. But it’s kinda disappointing that two amazing characters, I miss one, and another I can’t use to full capacity. I may just pull Seele cause I tried so hard to get her at launch

Topaz, March 7th, and Clara is a fun set up

she seems like fun also the fact that both her and kafka pull up their guns in synergy with Topaz's basic required for Kafka's follow up i think that alone is fun and bronya too. the whole enemy team gonna get bullets rained on em. hopefully we get another character with a gun so we can get a full fire arm team

I agreed with the video, been having fun playing with her 👍

Originally I was gonna role on topaz for clara but I had this dream where I really want huohuo for jing liu lol so I'll just have to wait for the rerun

Here's what I say. Topaz is not only a Great DPS, But she's an amazing Buffer. Imagine if we had a Jingliu or Inhibitor who's kit is Follow-up. Someone who does not need to Wait like Clara or Jing yuan, does not need to fulfill a condition like Himeko or Herta, and is just good in general. Imagine if this team was all Follow-up attack based, Topaz Buff, Inhibitor Or Shushang, Tingyun, and whatever you want for a 4th. You would dish out an ungodly amount of damage before the enemy even has a chance to move, if you get 1 follow-up that works like Inhibitor or Shushang. Inhibitor's damage is off the charts, and Shushang murders bosses in 1 turn because of how many times you can attack in a row, alongside Numby. This could be a problem in the future and I'm all for it!

I think upfront DPS like Jingliu is a problem, for this reason... that they create these misconceptions of damage and how it works. I myself was torn between the Fire and Ice banners; I was originally leaning Topaz because cute and Numby, and I ended up sticking with her even though I'm a moon-symbolism simp and it was close. But while I acknowledge Jingliu, I think people are missing the real value of Topaz; she can work as a main DPS, with full damage and solo DPS support, but she can also work as a sub DPS and a full support... which to my knowledge, is unique. And she's going to stay this way. I'm not saying the game will ever roll over on characters like IL or Jingliu, and that they'll be made less effective; I'm also not going to say that, as with the DPS characters they powercrept, they too shall be crept one day in the future. These are just possibilities--but they are possibilities. I think you hit the nail on the head talking about Topaz basically being future-proof, because while not providing the raw numbers of some of these other characters, she's reliable and will continue doing exactly what she does, no matter what. And even if someone comes out who does exactly what she does, the two will work insanely well together, and that follow-up team will just overall become stronger. And people just don't see the value in these things.

Hmmm... I don't think kafka will go crit. You can see single digit percent gains using crit build when triple harmony buffed (bronya ting yukong), but *especially* when she's focused on dot triggering another unit and not buffed herself, you'll see better gains from stacking attack as it will not be saturated. She will also probably want to go more in on speed stats which eats into crit value rolls too, so you'll just almost inevitably end wanting a fast Kafka with high speed in the long run, presuming a 5 star dot partner.

Persona 4 song go hard ngl

thats why I dont click on any of those videos hyping or talking about her before her release, all of those kill her hype before she was release, she's a niche character like kafka and the only way to know if she's for you or not, not if she give massive damage is to play her herself, thats why there is a trial so you can check if you will like her playstyle.

Skipped Jingliu on a guaranteed 70 pity ofter losing to gepard it was a very hard decision i don't regret it, glad i put my trust in hoyo and not content creators saying she is going to be mid. she is so much more than initialy expected.

So far one of the leak infos is that, Screwllum will be an Euridition Imaginary, which are based around follow up attacks too!

I'm excited how she will play with future FUAers. For now I will play her with Himeko and Clara.

I already cleared MOC10 with my Topaz, I dont see the issue with her. I am also an E1S1 Topaz enjoyer lets go

This aged soooo damn well

now I'm saving up for a really good follow up character or her rerun

How did you get her attack that high? I've been trying to build a Topaz, have her at level 80, a level 80 5-star light cone on her, her relics maxed, and almost all of her traces, but her attack stat is a few hundred lower than yours.

Topaz just playing beyblade trying to get the bag

Been playing her with hemiko and silver wolf it's very cheesey. Sw talent break the small units into hemiko follow up make numby go right after fastest unit. (In this case sw) giving numby faster rotation right at the start also giving bigger enemy fire weakness.

Only people who are saying she is bad are the ones trying to force her into a hyper carry role. Like....why do that? She isn't meant to be a hyper carry. She's meant to be used with other follow-up attackers. Makes no sense to me when people make those comparisons.

I got her. I just pull for everyone and play with whoever I get. All characters are good imo

but you HAVE THE SIGNATURE LIGHTCONE which is the best for Topaz i only have Swordplay S2 im at 30th pity on the lightcone banner with 120 jades left i plan to use herta hunt lightcone on another character so i can't put it on Topaz

My girl is a team player :3 I actually have no Clara, no Himeko, no Jing Yuan, no Kafka yet and I'm still waiting for relics update so my Topaz have to stay away from major battles for now T..T But I believe!

Well, I'm still happy that Numby's kit isn't type of character, that just lets me save a bit for the next one I like

I got lucky by winning 50/50 and then hitting the 5 star on 20 pulls and getting Clara lol, had to go for E1 Topaz at that point. Now saving for the LC.

I just pulled for her because she is beatiful,glad won my 50/50 😄, especially since the next character i will pull for is aparently part 2 of 1.6 so i have time to save for it

I just think that she's neat.

Why the 2pc Musketeer and 2pc Firesmith? I'm almost always using her skill to to advantage of the bonus damage for skill damage, plus the ultimate next attack buff I find melts targets.

TOP-AZZ

I don't have most of these follow-up attack characters that he uses as an example the only one that I really use is blade, so is he still a good alternative?

imo topaz would only really be in a "jing yuan" situation if 1. numby cant act if she gets hit by crowd control. 2. proof of debt has a mechanic like the lightning-lord stacks that need to be accumulated, lest it doesnt get to be at 'full power', but at the same time the energy cost of the character is high, leading to problems with casting the ult to build stacks unless you have something like a tingyun on the team. neither of those 2 issues are really present in topaz's kit.

Just imagine harmony that add taunt to a person or erudition that focus on follow up.Thats how topaz unlock more possibility🎉

critka isn't necessity IMO. i use spd/atk DoTka and she deals damage and outspeeds topaz (which you need to make sure her talent is prepared when topaz or other units uses basic attacks). my kafka normally deals 15k-20k DoTs per tic and that's around 100k per cycle (three turns with skill, 1-2 with ult, 1 with enemy turn, could reach 150k-200k if enemy is really fast like clock lady and monkey boi) and she takes care of the aoe, not to mention her follow up RELIABLE AS hell + she and topaz both benefit from asta

Had a bit of pity stacked up so i got her in 40 pulls + E1 Bronya which means the next char is guarenteed too right? Looking at HouHou maybe cause i heard she will be broken. 👀

😅 Lost her to an E1 Bronya but i will still try to get her till her banner ends. Hopefully within 50 pulls. 🤔Ngl i'm really getting bored of the hypercarry stuff since IL until i realized i had more fun with follow up and dot archetypes in SD.

Kinda sad but it’s The hoyo curse people forget turn base stuff I am a fan of enabler chara Kafka topaz as hyper Carry jinglu Don Juan are just damage since topaz and Kafka may take a long while but will compliment future chara watch’s their sake any rocket once a certain imaginary robot appears and a certain black swan the bad side is I don’t have them cause I’m saving for hou hou :(

Topaz is a Harmony character (for follow up attacks) disguised as a Hunt character. If you build her with that mindset she works wonders.

Pulling for jingliu and her lc broke me so I'll barely have 50 pulls for her. Gamba luck non existant but we hope

The only 5* follow up unit I have is Kafka. But still I S1E1 my Topaz hahaha

Top Ass is a good pj. Have good damage against bosses. Its a buffer and have a lot oficial teams.

What I have learned from playing Genshin is that versatility matters as there is no leaderboard. When Ganyu was first released, she was considered broken, but two years later, her abyss usage rate is somehow low. Don't get me wrong, she is still very good, but she is not as versatile as other characters. I think this will carry on to HSR. Jingliu might deal more damage than Topaz, but it doesn't matter because you can only get 3 stars in MoC 10. Due to this, Topaz (and Kafka) are versatile units in their respective roles and will hold more value in the future, as stated in this video. This versatility thing has already been proven in MoC. If my memory serves me right, the most used team in MoC is mono-quantum. Yes it take a longer cycle than the Jingliu/DHIL team, but once again, it doesn't matter because you can only get 3 stars anyway.

most of the hate for tapaz had nothing to do with her kit being mid not her damage its topaz and numby not numby and topaz she she should have a larger role in her kit

I've got her E0S1 with Clara E0 and... Yeah, they do some silly stuff. I've been enjoying her, still need some better relics but also waiting because what's the point. They make for a great AFK team as well. Would be nice if Lynx would keep the aggro+ on Clara, but alas. I think she's definitely worth it, because pretty much every character that comes out afterwards that has some sort of FuA in their kit is gonna be a "are they good with Topaz?" question rather than the usual "do they replace Topaz?" that all other beatstick DPS have. You certainly can't really play her hypercarry though as you said, but tbh I'm fine with that; I haven't been blessed with Bronya, so a lot of hypercarry builds are just out. I also find that playstyle a bit boring. Topaz in SU Elation is also absolutely stupid. Her basic being a FuA on A2 just sets her up for a lot of shenanigans. I'm definitely happy with my investment, and the stonks are just gonna go up. 💎👐🚀🚀🚀

Ngl I had to make the hard decision to skip her. Cause I have gotten alot characters since the game's inception but not their signature lightcone. So now that reruns are coming along I'm gonna get all the LCs that I missed out on to progress my account further with my current roster. The only time I'll prob go for a character is when Scrullom(?) comes around

Guess waht i have all 3 , but kafka is dotka on my account... Numby will be with clara , himeko and Nat for one side of moc ... Dot for 2nd🤜🤛

I found topaz get advantages with teammates with high speed especially with follow-up attack capabilities like kafka. Numby will go fast too

When players are spoiled by members of High Cloud Quintet, they cannot appreciate what a normal dps character is supposed to look like. Once for a while, we need super heroes like those big names in Xianzhou fleet. But more often than not Topaz is our girl next door, our daily dose of sanity.

This is great and all but is the damage going to be that good if it's just E0 Topaz? If I pull I'm getting E0 Topaz no sig LC and that's it I feel that is a significant amount of damage gone compared to the setup you have.

Guys I'm a new player. Should I wish for her?? Or save?? I got bailu.