🤔 Why Valve Clearances are VERY IMPORTANT 🤔 Tight Valves VS LOOSE Valves ticking

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@SimplyElectronicsOfficial
@SimplyElectronicsOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Although your explanation is perfect. The saying has always been that loose valves are better than tight valves because tight valves can be bent due to excess forces and loose valves are less detrimental.
@Rossvallance
@Rossvallance Жыл бұрын
I believe every person on earth needs teachers like you. Imagine if everyone had someone like you to explain situations explained on multiple levels. I now understand the motions, use and how valves may present themselves working and or not. Thank you
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it
@RealSuburbanCowboy
@RealSuburbanCowboy 5 жыл бұрын
This is really nicely explained. Many people have no idea what is going on inside their four stroke engine. I love the model.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
I was afraid I'm gonna get a kit if hate mail for that model , but people seems to like it
@darmasayoga1525
@darmasayoga1525 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more
@professorscrim5303
@professorscrim5303 Жыл бұрын
Let me guess Cowboy, you know what's going on inside your 4 stroke engine? 💀
@RealSuburbanCowboy
@RealSuburbanCowboy Жыл бұрын
@@professorscrim5303 after many years of working on engines and reading books about them, yes, I know what's going on inside 4 stroke AND 2 stroke AND Rotary engines.
@professorscrim5303
@professorscrim5303 Жыл бұрын
@@RealSuburbanCowboy Never would of guessed...
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
Great job, with good model demonstration!... except for a few mistakes if you don't mind them being noted... But first, the main reason to limit valve lash is because a valve with excessively loose clearances will not be pushed open far enough by the cam to flow the amount of air required for full power. The result would be the same if the cam lobes were worn down. Now for the mistakes. While you did admit that tight valve clearances will prevent the valve from sealing properly at the seat, you said at 4:58 that it will "not create any damage to the motor." Wrong. Tight valves are far more damaging than loose valves because the seats will quickly become burned and ruined due to being held open during combustion (especially in diesels). The hot gasses pass through the gap, overheat and erode the seats. On the flip side, at 7:20, you said that a valve that is only "resting on its seat" in the head and not on the cam, is a problem. You said that the springs will place all their force into pulling the valve into its seat, and this will cause the valve and seat to wear prematurely. Sorry, but this is completely false. The springs pulling the valve into its seat completely every time it closes, is the only way a valve system can work properly. The valve and seat wear is part of the design. OEM's have found that if they make the valves too hard so they don't wear, they just break. Intake valves are normally softer than exhaust valves though, so the intake valves will sink into the head sooner and the intake lash will the first to get too tight. Having "a loose gap" as you say, is not one of the worst things for your engine and it will not increase valve and seat wear. The only thing you can do to prevent valve wear is to make sure your thermostat is working ok and at the highest temp range allowed by the OEM. This will keep heat levels up and dissipate carbon. Carbon is what wears out the valve guides, which in turn causes premature valve and seat wear, because the valves wobble around at odd angles in the seat. Yes, loose tappets are what makes that rattling noise under deacceleration and this needs to be corrected by adjusting the valves, but it is not as bad as tight valves. Loose tappet noise should not be confused with detonation rattle which will be during acceleration. Next, you reiterate the whole flawed theory of the cam needing to contact the tappet at all times by referencing a very small problem and making it out to be a large problem; that is, valve lash causing tappet and valve stem wear from the bucket being too loose. Yes it is true that valve components are more easily harmed by excessive valve lash and the hammering effect of any bucket movement beyond clearance spec, but the fact is, that there must always be some movement there. In other words, the wear you mentioned is always happening even when the clearances are set to spec. It is just easier for bucket-float to exasperate the hammering effect when the lash is excessive. There will be an increase in the wear rate like a hammer smashing a nail, as you rightly said, but you cannot get rid of that motion or you will have the much worse issue of burnt valve seats from the valve not fully seating. Keep in mind almost all these principles are the same with the the adjustable rocker and push-rod engines as well. Lastly, while it's true that cold engine spec clearances are designed to account for the expanding metallurgy in a hot motor, the gaps are not completely taken up by the temp changes. Some proof that the lash never gets completely tight when hot can be seen in this: many engine manuals list the valve setting specs for a hot engine, as well as a cold engine, and those specs are only slightly different from each other. There is always still plenty of gap, even with a hot engine in operation, so that may simply be another misunderstanding. Also, no one should confuse the above system with hydraulic lifters. They do indeed always place some pressure on the cam or rocker, thus there is no lash clearance and no adjustment needed. However, when the cam profile is not in position to move the valve, the oil pressure in the lifter is never more than the valve spring force. The valve always fully seats in the head properly as mentioned above. Thus the lifter system is just slightly different. Thanks for reading.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac Жыл бұрын
Great points
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 Жыл бұрын
@@vegasromaniac Thank you. Great job on the riding videos. Keep up the good work!
@blackyboi2885
@blackyboi2885 Жыл бұрын
wow....your smart. thanks for your super long instruction. you need do videos your ownself too.. now i know even more about ny 79 gs850g suzuki and its rattling jangling sounds coming from my engine. i think worn valves will also cause back firing especially with new extra non stock free flow exhaust pipes
@bigchief4044
@bigchief4044 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Even my 2stroke brain was able to understand that.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
That's why I o worked a whole day for that wood model..
@jacobquaysonjnr5061
@jacobquaysonjnr5061 3 жыл бұрын
2 stroke brain???? lol
@user-xw4hn7lb3x
@user-xw4hn7lb3x 6 ай бұрын
So many veteran mechanics have no clue why there needs to be a gap. Thermal expansion. Congrats to you for knowing how valve gaps really work.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words ...
@rusdibaik1891
@rusdibaik1891 23 күн бұрын
For my small motocycle 150cc (130k km milege) the factory value is 0.10 in & 0.15 ex but its to loose & produce noisy sound from the head, so i just do 0.5 in & 0.10 ex, the noise go away but i feel the engine loose some compression & power…where the wrong have i done? Shud i go more tighter clearance for in as 0.03 and 0.06 for ex?
@glenc4173
@glenc4173 2 жыл бұрын
You made a good visual representation of why valve clearance checks and adjustments are very important. I hope those that think valve clearance is not important find your video. Valve clearance adjustment is one of the first maintenance items I do on any new to me motorcycle.
@jerosalva2510
@jerosalva2510 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all your videos. I have a hard time comprehending the manual, but your explanations always make sense to me and make working on my bike less intimidating. Thank u again
@docsamson2299
@docsamson2299 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to do this! I'm in the middle of re-shimming my F4i and this really helped me understand exactly what is happening with the engine and why. Your comment about Honda was spot on! Almost all of mine were tight...
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome man, glad it helped you out
@gabriellynn4418
@gabriellynn4418 4 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome explanation and it helped me to better understand exactly what's going on with valves and shims. The model helped out a lot too! Thanks!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, glad it worked
@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 24 күн бұрын
This is absolutely the best explanation on valves I've seen. Thank you!!
@roninanglers
@roninanglers 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro! I've been trying to understand this valve stuff. Now I know why I'm hearing the noises I'm hearing. Thanks! 🤙🏿🙏🏿👌🏿
@keensey5370
@keensey5370 Жыл бұрын
I already knew this, but this video explains it so well that I will recommend it to friends or acquaintances who need to learn. Congratulations!
@clintbeastwood3311
@clintbeastwood3311 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Extremely informative!
@territodude
@territodude 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it makes sense to me and was helpful, appreciate it! It's much easier to understand with visuals like this as well.
@bananafoneable
@bananafoneable Жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP thank you for explaining this with these descriptions. When my engine gets hot, the engine started ticking LOUDLY. Adjusting the valve clearance did the trick!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@viajarMOTO
@viajarMOTO 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome description! Thanks for putting this together and explaining this for us who a visual learners. Brilliant!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you on this channel
@clithsbee
@clithsbee 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for so long! so many videos of people trying to explain it but they use actual motorcycle engine in the video. This doesn’t help me understand what is happening. Your model has helped immensely and I have so grateful you took the time to put it all together and explain everything fully. I just bought a honda and like you said, the exhaust valves are too tight. (spec for .011”, it is currently at .004”). I have never replaced a shim before, so I am anxious about doing it. Because of your video, I understand how important it is to have the correct clearances. I look forward to your other videos.
@ahmedshadan8912
@ahmedshadan8912 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Finally understood what’s happening with my bike. Thanks a bunch.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@mascaralinium2866
@mascaralinium2866 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! This is the one of the best and very excellent way of demonstration i ever seen like this. You are a genius & i just love it. Well done! I highly appreciate your exceptional ability & thinking this idea behind tappet/valve clearance. Thank you so very much for all this explanation & visualization.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for watching
@scalecraft4663
@scalecraft4663 4 жыл бұрын
Best Explanation and display so far. i'll do my cbr 250r now. thank you
@WILLY52368
@WILLY52368 2 жыл бұрын
The best explanation of how valves work I ever came across that I can follow and understand, great job bro
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to have you here
@thijstig
@thijstig 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining so clearly. This video is awesome!
@CoachSteve4u
@CoachSteve4u Жыл бұрын
Awesome video for explaining what shims do and how it works. I now understand!
@Shellshock361
@Shellshock361 4 жыл бұрын
The best explanation I've seen on this. Checking my valves!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@karysashair4728
@karysashair4728 2 ай бұрын
This was the best visual demonstration I’ve ever seen
@Mickey_Bauer
@Mickey_Bauer 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you!
@alponching002
@alponching002 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Now I appreciate the necessity of adjustment even more.
@TylorBennett
@TylorBennett Жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation. Thank you so much for putting this together. Makes complete sense.
@circlepfarm9729
@circlepfarm9729 11 ай бұрын
Such a great video! Thank you so much for passing on this knowledge!!!
@robertstimmel1100
@robertstimmel1100 Жыл бұрын
This was a great explanation! Thank you!
@losFondos
@losFondos 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation, thanks for the video!
@neilharvey94
@neilharvey94 Жыл бұрын
Best description of valve clearances I've found. Like the three bears, not too big, not too small, just right.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@letsride4199
@letsride4199 4 жыл бұрын
Epic Video Man! Thanks for taking the time and making the model :)
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for watching
@Ghost-mm9kc
@Ghost-mm9kc 11 ай бұрын
VERY VERY well explained, that was a great way to explain that. great job
@djmcommish12
@djmcommish12 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for posting. Appreciate your efforts!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@tycoontobias8741
@tycoontobias8741 4 жыл бұрын
A superb and thouroughly explained video - thank you very much. Have a great day.!
@shaynebrown131
@shaynebrown131 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man, thank you
@Therealchrist
@Therealchrist 11 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video, thanks very much for making it!
@omerwaqar7910
@omerwaqar7910 11 ай бұрын
just explained perfectly. thank you for the efforts ❤
@alexicon_
@alexicon_ Ай бұрын
masterful explanation. thank you kindly!!
@Tipman2OOO
@Tipman2OOO 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this. Made it clear as day to me!
@irishflyer6377
@irishflyer6377 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a really simple clear video. Excellent
@brendonchase9460
@brendonchase9460 3 ай бұрын
That was a great presentation and description of shim function and why taping noice happens. Awesome demonstration
@andrejsarevski2518
@andrejsarevski2518 2 жыл бұрын
Hats down, this is the best way that you can explain this component on a motorcycle. \m/
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Happy I was of help
@blackyboi2885
@blackyboi2885 Жыл бұрын
you are a fantastic instructor. i have a 1979 gs850 suzuki ..it has some weird part rattle part jangling sound coming from the engine...i am sure it is the valves needing adjustments [shim changing] . but now i realize what all is going on and and the urgency of fixing thie cause of this warning sound. thanks a billion
@stephbigue
@stephbigue 6 ай бұрын
Amazing explanation. Thank you
@njmxjunkie3128
@njmxjunkie3128 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video and visual. Thank you and I wish more people watch this.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for watching and appreciating my work
@Guitarooster52
@Guitarooster52 2 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. I understand it much better now. Thanks
@yoboo6167
@yoboo6167 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good info and descriptions!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Tha KS for watching
@ehiggins7476
@ehiggins7476 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant explanation. Thank you!
@SamuraiR31
@SamuraiR31 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I never understood this until watching your video.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Glaf it helped
@hastonlobo6077
@hastonlobo6077 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video..... Excellent demonstration!
@kuriandungu6876
@kuriandungu6876 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, never understood how that worked until now.
@Alexnikpo
@Alexnikpo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, I've had some advice to only change the oil and leave the valves. But today I've checked and aligned my exhaust valve because it was a little tight.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Wilberon_McBane
@Wilberon_McBane 2 жыл бұрын
An absolutely superb explaination using a really cool and simple model! Thank you so much! 😎👍
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@gregharstone7599
@gregharstone7599 4 жыл бұрын
super good informaion! well done thanks!
@emekaenwerem861
@emekaenwerem861 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic illustration, well-done 👍
@jasonmurray219
@jasonmurray219 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent info! Nicely explained!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys liked it
@jowarnis
@jowarnis 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best explanation about valve clearances on the internet :D
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it
@madisonabel
@madisonabel 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect Explaination!!!
@TheRicokilla
@TheRicokilla 3 жыл бұрын
God bless u sir. Very well explained! I learned more than what I intended to.. Tq!
@ant-ou9de
@ant-ou9de 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained mate enjoyed it
@iShOotBlasterz
@iShOotBlasterz 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this very useful knowledge. i always like to understand how things work before i do adjustments or anything.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped out
@AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO
@AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job maniac you did a pretty masterful job explaining this all of you kids out there that's never touched a valve in your life pay attention because this is how it actually works.☺👍🔧
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Yep I'll answer questions on my next videos on this model
@robbroy
@robbroy 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation man, very informative thankyou!!! Subscribed!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@workingman1791
@workingman1791 2 ай бұрын
Great video.thank you for your time
@johnafamasaga9310
@johnafamasaga9310 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruh awesome 3d modelling and explanation first class 😎
@Davis0682
@Davis0682 Жыл бұрын
Great video!! thank you@!
@jdxtube68
@jdxtube68 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding explanation!
@alexandrucristiean7562
@alexandrucristiean7562 3 жыл бұрын
mulțumesc pentru explicație
@zx7rzx7r25
@zx7rzx7r25 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained - thanks!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for watching
@Operaatoors
@Operaatoors Жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I've ever got! So - no more questions - whats the difference between 0.15 or 0.25, who cares... If the manufacturer said it has to be IN 0.15 and EX 0.20 it has to be like that! If not - expect motor not starting (this is the best scenario, because it just prevents owner to kill the motor) if gap is too low, or if rattling noise - turn off your bike immediately and make clearence lower!
@amjedahmed8509
@amjedahmed8509 3 жыл бұрын
Nice effort thanks man
@lin018
@lin018 2 жыл бұрын
Same issue. I corrected mine with proper torqued spark plugs. This fix high engine temperature issue and die with throttle when bike is hot.
@steelcitycaprice.899
@steelcitycaprice.899 11 ай бұрын
👀👂🤛🏾 awesome teaching...I learned valuable information. 🏁🏁🏁🏁
@cletuskaunda5665
@cletuskaunda5665 8 ай бұрын
Good explanation and easy to understand,God bless u.
@nuclearchris832
@nuclearchris832 4 жыл бұрын
Good job. Thanks for the effort
@8Steady
@8Steady 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 3 жыл бұрын
D Glad you liked it
@tuskenridertv2678
@tuskenridertv2678 2 жыл бұрын
Really well explained!!! Thanks!!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@alexandrudinca3080
@alexandrudinca3080 Жыл бұрын
Foarte misto explicat!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac Жыл бұрын
Mă bucur că tzia plăcut
@Jdmsti
@Jdmsti 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant explanation 👍
@SavinoCannone
@SavinoCannone 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful explanation, thank you!
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@umeer.94
@umeer.94 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. All super clear-ances.
@jtrev2460
@jtrev2460 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, many thanks 👍
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@benno003
@benno003 5 жыл бұрын
thanks, I've never understood how all that works until I watched your video. nice one. :)
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@vytautaslegrandas6811
@vytautaslegrandas6811 9 ай бұрын
Great explanation! My 2001 honda cbr 600 f4i really needs valve adjustment. Very hard cold starts. Currently 24k miles.
@doctorhelicopter
@doctorhelicopter Ай бұрын
It's not really enough milage. Have you checked compression? Lots of people do more harm than good changing shims. Heads 'grow' as they heat up. A new valve train is always gonna be better than adjustment
@RyanRussell885
@RyanRussell885 Ай бұрын
This is amazing!
@xawerymeloman3254
@xawerymeloman3254 11 ай бұрын
Veeeery gooood explanation 🙂 Thank you.
@Willsmith-qh4hy
@Willsmith-qh4hy 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid mate
@codyjones3990
@codyjones3990 Жыл бұрын
Did an awesome job explaining that bravo 🤗
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kennyle7211
@kennyle7211 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for the info.
@travisdonley8768
@travisdonley8768 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. One caveat to potentially add is I've read that tight valves can sometimes be a huge problem with exhaust valves, because they get much hotter than intake valves, and dissipate most of their heat when they contact the valve seat, so there's the potential to burn exhaust valves if they don't fully close. Not sure if this happens much on motorcycles or not, but it could be a factor.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@Rob-id3zf
@Rob-id3zf 24 күн бұрын
the crazy model is great!
@cloroxbleach8676
@cloroxbleach8676 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Even as someone who knows a bit about this kind of stuff it was very helpful.
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome man
@DocHoliday-to6kp
@DocHoliday-to6kp Ай бұрын
THANK YOU.. Well Done.
@PaulAndersonAndo
@PaulAndersonAndo 5 жыл бұрын
Great video mate,very well explained 👍
@vegasromaniac
@vegasromaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@fernandosalcedo6930
@fernandosalcedo6930 4 жыл бұрын
awesome! well explained.
@budgetprojectsbydavid5263
@budgetprojectsbydavid5263 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. I am working on a Kawasaki Mule that has very tight valve clearance and very poor compression. I can't wait to see if I can get the old girl to start, once I set the valves back to spec. Thanks for the very clear explanation!
@krotchlickmeugh627
@krotchlickmeugh627 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the year kawi you have some mules arent shim under bucket
@hajyoussefamine8304
@hajyoussefamine8304 11 ай бұрын
Perfect explanation
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