you know it!

You crack it

It's what got it all started, in that hospital toilet, after all...

Lol

Honestly, same

Oh I had never thought of that before! That's definitely symbolic, you're right

NAILED IT

They’re true love

thats why this series is special

Yes, especially how there was the line in the bridge between them that if you watch really close they never cross

Great observations here!

Her mum was a narc parent then

@@chloereed454 Yes...her mum was very narcisstic. I feel like Villanelle never bonded with anyone and then was groomed for the world of violence when she was incarcerated as a juvenile. The combination of no real strong bonds in early childhood and then brutal treatment and then being groomed and rewarded...it's not so astounding that she became who she became.

It makes me cry too😂

Your English is perfect! And you made a really good point that Villanelle doesn't love first, she just loves the people who are already giving her attention. I never noticed that before! You are totally right! Thanks for watching and commenting❤️

I get the same vibes from her relationship with Konstantin

wow, this is a perfect explanation!

I actually feel that Villanelle had started that wheel in the bathroom. She initiated the whole thing back there. If only she paid no attention to the mirror reflection who knows how the plot could go. At least she definitely wouldn't kill anyone beside the exact target. But she got over emotional. As we know she feels things mostly when she’s with Eve. We can assume she couldn’t handle those sudden emotions & got totally mad. I think that if she paid to attention to the mirror, firstly, it could take much more time for Eve to find V, and, secondly, V definitely won’t be triggered by Eve that much.

Your English is completely perfect, didn't even cross my mind when reading! And very insightful points too.

I agree, Villanelle had a lot of growing up to do between S1 and S3. But I think Eve would have rejected Villanelle at the end of S2 even if she hadn't manipulated her into killing Raymond. Eve was still chasing after Niko in Poland in S3. I would be interested to know what happened to Villanelle's father-is it possible that he also rejected Villanelle, hence why Villanelle looks to Constantin as a father-figure?

@@screentime4500 Abandonment, murder or suicide is the question where her fathers concerned. Oksana worshipped the ground he walked on. Eve was too invested in Villanelle to dump her until she saw the gun which rendered the investment as worthless. Eve was chasing the last link to her facade of normalcy with Dasha sending her Texts from Niko's phone before the Pitchfork stabbing. Eve was also chasing after Villanelle like a mad woman with nothing to lose. After killing Tatiana, Villanelle died to make way for Oksana's emotional rebirth.

Totally!!!

You said put it perfectly 👏🏾

@@screentime4500 I also believe Eve to be the modern day Madame De Tourvel to Villanelle's female equivalent of Vicomte De Valmont of Dangerous Liaisons(the basis of Cruel Intentions). Only Eve's made of sterner stuff in the hard to get stakes and is the greatest challenge for Villanelle who's bored of the lovers(of both genders) she's so easily seduced in the past. In her quest to conquer Eve it's Villanelle who ends being conquered in more ways than she bargained for.

U right lol it's just the hair

😃 Exactly. Though to be fair, the hair she loves (on Anna, on Eve) are all curly just like her mother's.

and her 'nice body'

Yes, you hit the nail on the head! Villanelle really just wanted to be noticed by someone and obsessed over. I considered having a section of this video talking about V and E's shared loneliness: E doesn't have anyone but Niko and V doesn't have anyone but Constantin. E even says "I basically married my dad" to Carolyn😂

Villanelle absolutely does not see Eve as any kind of equal to herself whatsoever, nor any other human being, because that isn't possible. People with this condition are self-obsessed egomaniacs and see everyone else as inferior, or at the very worst end of the spectrum they have no regard for life at all. She heavily implies on more than one occasion and finally even states to Eve that she is nothing without her and that literally the only thing that makes Eve interesting is Villanelle. Not trying to be rude, but V could (and did) think she killed Eve and just simply move on to the next thing in life and the next person without looking back and it showed us that if Eve had actually died V wouldn't have really cared past that interest that was barely there in the first place, she only had that reaction and got back into her life after Konstantin told her she was alive and he saw her. Otherwise, maybe she would have thought about her every once in a while but she practically forgot already. The idea of someone she is *physically* attracted to (I believe she is incapable of empathy or actual love, or they went the complete psycho direction with her character and then they decided to backtrack across the paint anyway and give a psychopath sudden, miraculous new feelings they make it pretty clear she's never truly felt before. These things are not possible with this level of psychopathy, just fleeting fascination or interest, and if they were staying true to the character they built up she wouldn't be able to truly love anyone. Seems like it's merely Eve's kind of twisted love towards and fascination with her that fuels any interest V has with her... And let's not forget that Eve is on the sociopathy spectrum as well, they have clearly shown that throughout all three seasons.

@@MrAdryan1603 you said it all! I was going to say the same thing. "Here today, gone tomorrow" is how V lives her life. It's going to be interesting to see where they take this relationship. I would hate to see them totally reverse roles

@@patriot7897 Oh definitely, I agree. It could go anywhere at this point.. and I'm just hoping they don't do what a lot of programs do and think they have to up the craziness and drama a few dozen notches and pull some crazy shet on us that screws up everything. They're at a point where they could still do such great and clever things without ruining it.... I guess we'll see. Hahah, cheers!

@@MrAdryan1603 this was the last season

Aw thanks hahaha

I agree

I think they just are really infatuated with each other, leading to love. I don’t think labels are needed. It’s so much more than lesbian love, extremely complex.

Typically we flirt for an hour fall in love in the next move in a day later. 3yrs of flirting is unheard of

@@kimwang2787 that's how me and my gf ended up being bc we were too shy to confront our feelings. not uncalled for, maybe they just need to warm up completely and get to truly dig into each other's complexities.

i don t think eve love s her

@@arkmanevr2073 Then why Eve kiss💋 Villanelle then??

That's not even a smile... That's pure a internal struggle and a broken soul.

Perfect comment

Is that Bette Porter in your profile picture?

I need more shows/movie recs with this kinda plot line

Unfortunately that love can't always be romantic. Or maybe fortunately... we can find many soulmates. Idk.

Yeah, more like she is looking for someone to fill the hole left by her mother who didn't love her. I think that's how she became an assassin too. I think Dasha pretended to care for her at a young age because she knew that was what Villanelle craved and then used that to manipulate her into becoming a violent sociopath. I think the darkness in Eve is important too though, because to Villanelle it means that she is capable of accepting her darkness too. She's just looking for that balance of darkness and true love, and she's been let down by everyone.

Mommy issues!!

you made some really valid points and gave me an idea for my fic, thanks friend

With Hannibal & Clarice it cut both ways because while Hannibal initially viewed her as a replacement for his long lost sister, she saw him as a twisted, father figure she fell in love with. In Eve, Villanelle had the friend, the mother and star-crossed lover who takes a genuine interest in her as a human being rather than just a gifted killer with no soul. In turn Hannibal & Villanelle saw their perspective lovers as humans in their own right instead of objects to be possessed.

true but also .....she loves her because she is different in the ways she wants ...and tries to turn her to the same as her mother in the ways she wants

She’s described as being 40 in s1

Sally Cinammon that's not middle-aged and late 30s is around 40 anyway.

@Forever Hermosa 40 is not middle aged

And see season 4 together.

@@hannalind7581 For a kiss yes. But for the whole season? Fuck no!

I was literally going to talk about that

@@screentime4500 I see. You are a person of culture as well.

@@elfodelputoinfierno honey you should see me in a crown

I agree

YES

Christina Yang!

Lol I would die

Then theyll jump the cliff together

YAS

Ooohh never thought of that

YES oh my god i thought i was the only one

Littlestraincloud what ,.. ...... this can not be mother daughter element😂 no daughter touches crave for her mom... it’s more of. A romantic relationship

@@hijaabivlogger1088 It's a romantic relationship but Villanelle still has a desire for the approval and love for another woman denied to her by her mother

I’ve read that when Sandra first signed on it was gonna be more Thelma and Louise vibes but producers/fans wanted more romantic pairing after season 1🤷🏾🤷🏾

That's true-V's mom did ask her to leave before Villanelle said she was a killer-but I think V's mom knew about Villanelle's history of killing before V came to visit. I think V's mom being the killer during the game at the dinner table, combined with V saying "you're like me" and then immediately after saying "I've killed a lot of people" are huge hints towards V's mom being a killer too. Hopefully in S4 they will dive more deeply into V's past so we can see what happened!

Only Villanelle didn't shoot Anna. She shot herself.

@@Senate300 Yeah you're right, she only threatened it. But still.

@@tundravarg3525 Anna did it cause she knew she'd been replaced. I would've love for Anna to ask "Is it Eve?" Or having to listen to Oksana Villanelle gush over her new crush at gunpoint would've been a work of art. Eve's emotional abandonment of Villanelle wasn't without reason. And those reasons were swept under the rug never to be addressed again.

this is true

And yet…the beginning of season 4 doesn’t reflect these positive changes at all.

Sociopaths are the ones who can't love, Psychopaths can, usually with family.

@@liv-uu1fi both terms are outdated and actually considered kinda offensive but that aside you actually have them backwards! it’s said that sociopaths can from bonds but psychopaths are physically unable to (makes sense because sociopaths are built from trauma and psychopaths are born that way)

@@thatskyhalo idk man every source say something different 🤷‍♀im sorry if I said something offensive though

@@liv-uu1fi no worries, youre all good!! and yeahhh there’s a lotta misleading information but an easy way to remember is PSYCHopath (born with aspd) vs SOCIOpath (aspd formed due to social factors and/or trauma),,, which then makes sense why the later can appear more impulsive/emotional edit: i’m realizing i’m just repeating a bunch of things ignore me💀💀

Thank you!! That's so kind

I'm working on a different video right now, but I might do Why Eve Loves Villanelle after that one!

Just not the ending 😢

Thank you and omg yes I knew I had to use Mario kart music there

Tysm❤️

Oh you're so kind thank you so much 😊

Thanks! When I was preparing for this video I discovered a lot of stuff I didn't even think of either lol I got lots of help

I think it’s so it doesn’t get taken down. Like copyright issues I guess

OMG I loved when Eve did that it was quite clever. I'm pretty sure Eve was trying to lower Villanelles guard so she could escape and it worked perfectly.

Thanks for watching!😀

You're so welcome!

Thanks!

Yeah for me too, probably to avoid being flagged or copyright striked

thank u darling!

Screen Time your wel-come

Who doesn't....😢

Let’s just ignore that Vilanelle has murdered hundreds of people. So cute...

@@laraking804 oh I wouldn't care if she killed a 100. I want to marry. Her. Shes beautiful.

@@universalau8793 you need help

@@someone20ify why do I need help