Why Was Darmanitan-Galar Banned in Competitive Pokemon?

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Why Was Darmanitan-Galar Banned in Competitive Pokemon?
Pokemon can be crazy sometimes.
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@Iris_Descent
@Iris_Descent 2 жыл бұрын
As a wise man once said, "Darmanitan-G's ability is called Gorilla Tactics because even a gorilla could lead with it and click U-turn".
@beeorsomething2230
@beeorsomething2230 2 жыл бұрын
FSG reference, my man
@makhseed
@makhseed 2 жыл бұрын
LOOOOL
@N12015
@N12015 2 жыл бұрын
@@beeorsomething2230 Nah, it's a reference to a Smogon player. The FSG would be "It's like running a choice band and a Choice scarf on the same set" or something like that.
@butteredsalmonella
@butteredsalmonella 2 жыл бұрын
@@N12015 The "Choice Band and Choice Scarf" actually came from ANOTHER comment referencing Genesect's Download + Scarf Set. Oh and Genesect has STAB U-Turn for more comedic factor.
@mozkebab8260
@mozkebab8260 2 жыл бұрын
bro this sounds like some shit blunder would say, agency agency
@lillyie
@lillyie 2 жыл бұрын
gamefreak: let's give a 140 base attack pokemon a built in choice band! im sure it'll go well!
@sheillasyahputri472
@sheillasyahputri472 2 жыл бұрын
Let's give a 170 base attack Pokémon a built in Howl! Im sure it'll go well!
@jettlucashayes8508
@jettlucashayes8508 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheillasyahputri472 but giving a refrigerate pokemon extreme speed is too much
@akbarn4903
@akbarn4903 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheillasyahputri472 zacian crown is uber with great typing but zacian has quagsire as his natural wall but galar dama is no natural wall worthy of him.
@axlr8deathpls294
@axlr8deathpls294 2 жыл бұрын
@@jettlucashayes8508 sorry we're talking about bh?
@sheillasyahputri472
@sheillasyahputri472 2 жыл бұрын
@@jettlucashayes8508 What Pokémon got both Refrigerate and Extreme Speed?
@miserepoignee9594
@miserepoignee9594 2 жыл бұрын
Slaking: 160 ATT, but balanced by the fact that it skips every turn G-Darm: 140 ATT, but balanced by the fact that it gets to hold a second choice band
@KLIXORthe
@KLIXORthe 2 жыл бұрын
it'd be cool if they made a regional variant of slaking line that was choice locked instead of getting truant.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
And then no one would use Galarian Daramanitan ever again unless Slaking does not get a pivot move.
@KLIXORthe
@KLIXORthe 2 жыл бұрын
​@@iantaakalla8180 I was suggesting a downside only ability, not that it functionally gets gorilla tactics. galarian darm effectively has at least 180 base attack plus more, already easily outclassing slaking's 160 in terms of raw power.
@Tojikuna
@Tojikuna 2 жыл бұрын
@@KLIXORthe but it has paper thin defense with being choice locked whereas slaking has high defense also
@zackrack8942
@zackrack8942 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tojikuna if you slapped on it a choice scarf it outspeed a good amount of pokemon while still have dizzying power. So why would you care about that anymore ?
@TheWrathAbove
@TheWrathAbove 2 жыл бұрын
They really looked at Sheer Force and said "yeah it needs a stronger ability"
@nijimazero
@nijimazero 2 жыл бұрын
It's far from being a better ability ._. It's way worse. Sheer force is a ×2 with no drawback while Gorilla tactics is a ×1.5 with the drawback of not being able to change move. Yes, if you put a choice band on top of Gorilla tactics then the ×1.5 becomes a ×2.25 but if you put a choice band on top of Sheer Force the ×2 becomes a ×3 so it's still strictly better. What makes Damaritan G busted is Gorilla tactics on top of his base 140 in attack that is already crazy high.
@SPZ-gv2on
@SPZ-gv2on 2 жыл бұрын
@@nijimazero Sheer force is not 2x. It's 1.3x. Gorilla tactics is much stronger and also keeps additional effects like icicle crash flinching.
@TheWrathAbove
@TheWrathAbove 2 жыл бұрын
@@nijimazero Sheer force only works with certain moves. Gorilla tactics works with all moves.
@mkmkoto
@mkmkoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@nijimazero what crack u smoking
@MiIIiIIion
@MiIIiIIion 2 жыл бұрын
@@nijimazero yo, I want some of that sheer force you're smoking
@mediocreboi
@mediocreboi 2 жыл бұрын
Last year friends wanted to do a monotype doubles tourmament and they laughed when I chose Ice. A-Ninetales and G-Darmanitan went undefeated
@heathseeker1575
@heathseeker1575 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is nice
@Xsor.
@Xsor. 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is ice
@mintymango3717
@mintymango3717 2 жыл бұрын
It was a very chilling experience for your friends
@austingordon3709
@austingordon3709 2 жыл бұрын
Alolan Ninetales? Based. 2nd favorite Ice Type behind Glaceon. Frosmoth probably takes 3rd.
@jackbuggeln4870
@jackbuggeln4870 2 жыл бұрын
@@mintymango3717 mamoswine reins supreme
@grantdaily9662
@grantdaily9662 2 жыл бұрын
I remember getting darumaka in a trade and it evolving into Gurilla Tactics Darmanitan. I've never had a Pokemon game crumple after the third gym so bad, and I played XY
@lyg483
@lyg483 2 жыл бұрын
And trade Pkm get much more exp than your own pkm, so It would be also always on level or over it. It happened to me with a Honedge
@grantdaily9662
@grantdaily9662 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyg483 technically they do, but it was an egg trade, so it didn't get the EXP boost when it hatched. Though it did get the EXP boost from the camp
@TNTmasta07
@TNTmasta07 2 жыл бұрын
Now I can only imagine Leon wanting darmanitan banned from the main story
@grantdaily9662
@grantdaily9662 2 жыл бұрын
@@TNTmasta07 I gave mine the elemental punches (Fire and Ice) with Super Power and U-Turn, turns out those moves turn Leon into mush
@mkmkoto
@mkmkoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@TNTmasta07 lmao
@iceball3xd
@iceball3xd 2 жыл бұрын
Sword and shield really be filled with that "destroys almost everything instantly" pokedex. Calyrex (ice/shadow), zacian, gal darm, dracovish, regieleki, etc etc... Hard to believe dexit happened for balance reasons at this point.
@iceball3xd
@iceball3xd 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah. And dynamax.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Balance, in this case, is just an excuse people give when they can’t give you 600 Pokémon that further power creep everywhere except Ubers.
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 2 жыл бұрын
Uhh actually it was balance reasons. I think what happened is the overly strong things they introduced were decided on after they concluded on doing dexit. Like. Do you really think Arceus would make the meta more balanced? It's certainly not balanced NOW but if all 894 species were present it would be worse
@provolonepop
@provolonepop 2 жыл бұрын
@@SnoFitzroy The actual reason for dexit is to force people to pay the monthly fee of pokehome to host their old pokemons in the cloud
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 2 жыл бұрын
@@SnoFitzroy considering arceus has medicre offensive but great defensive capabilities yes it would, but honestly they just couldn't finish the game, that's all.
@DoctorSpacebar
@DoctorSpacebar 2 жыл бұрын
He is trained in gorilla warfare and graduated top of his class in the Showdown Ubers and has over 3000 confirmed faints.
@royal_kim1154
@royal_kim1154 2 жыл бұрын
Needless to say, you're nothing to him but just another target.
@spriterkid1997
@spriterkid1997 2 жыл бұрын
Godspeed, G-Darmanitan. You actually made Flareon useful for a while.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
Dare I ask how?
@finnshelton3815
@finnshelton3815 2 жыл бұрын
@@sagacious03 it was a niche check that could switch in on certain ice stab if I remember correctly. More of a meme pick bit still usable.
@ismailcalsr2226
@ismailcalsr2226 2 жыл бұрын
@@finnshelton3815 yeah, g darm is faster without scarf and learns eq, flareon is barely enough
@averymetaboi5317
@averymetaboi5317 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Flareon was used to counter Clefable in early SwSh, not Darm-G
@Chimera-man-man
@Chimera-man-man 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Gamefreak decided that an already strong Pokemon with a broken ability should also get another broken ability where it becomes stronger and faster at half health as well as access to belly drum. I imagine whoever designed Archeops at Gamefreak had to physically pin Darm's designer to the ground before the madman gave it Extremespeed as well
@p0oka261
@p0oka261 2 жыл бұрын
Belly drum access is irrelevant to guerilla tactics
@Chimera-man-man
@Chimera-man-man 2 жыл бұрын
@@p0oka261 Not in Ubers it ain't
@dorkmork7349
@dorkmork7349 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chimera-man-man how so
@zeusoftheaegis9038
@zeusoftheaegis9038 2 жыл бұрын
This made me lol so hard because it could actually be true XD
@Chrjstheshadow
@Chrjstheshadow 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorkmork7349 I think they're trying to talk about Zen Mode Galar darm, since belly drumming to half health does all the things they mentioned with that ability.
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the no brainer pick. It used to be on every team so I ran a meme Hitmonchan set with Iron Fist Choice Band Mach Punch to OHKO Garmanitan leads since they'd always open with it and click U-turn or Icicle Crash It wasn't a Seismitoad situation either, I'd legitimately OHKO mixed/SpDefensive Ferrothorns with Fire Punch as well. It actually pulled its weight But the most effort I'd always get from Chan was 30% of players forfeiting turn one because their no thoughts head empty hulk smasher was instantly taken out
@seabirdflutter
@seabirdflutter 2 жыл бұрын
"hmmm i wonder what this hitmonchan could possibly do. support maybe?" _one turn later_ "oh."
@belimvasim143
@belimvasim143 2 жыл бұрын
One i think is that if you are neutral to ice types CB Darmantian's icicle crash basiclly counts as super effective on you
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 2 жыл бұрын
@havier bardem three reasons: 1. Opponents don't switch out because they know they outspeed and one shot with icicle crash. They know that my mon in return doesn't KO with MP unless it runs this exact set. 2. I honestly wanted something for Ferrothorn. I had fire punch and rapid spin (although close combat is still stronger, I just preferred not to get any stat drops after hitting it). It was my only hazard remover so it did something outside beating Galarm 3. Lmao Hitmonchan in OU
@mansamusa933
@mansamusa933 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t let this video let you forget that Blunder got 6-0d by darm
@dalekdoctor1
@dalekdoctor1 2 жыл бұрын
Lead zen darm that is 😁
@Quiizzey
@Quiizzey 2 жыл бұрын
Though it’s still broken regardless, I think it’s important to note Darm-G was banned around when dynamax was still in effect, meaning for a long time you could lock yourself into a move, the opponent sends out a “counter” and then you dynamax, allowing you to break out of your choice lock at any time and still deal serious damage. Super dumb
@Dragonstorm1234
@Dragonstorm1234 2 жыл бұрын
It's also important to note showdown dynamax gave you choice item boosts while in dynamax at the time, meaning you could also be banded and get both boosts
@HowlingOneify
@HowlingOneify 2 жыл бұрын
Uh... No? Dmax was banned around the 16th of December while DarmG was banned odn the 29th of December.
@Quiizzey
@Quiizzey 2 жыл бұрын
@@HowlingOneify the bans happened close enough together where most people were familiar with darm within the dynamax meta game.
@austinclarke1613
@austinclarke1613 2 жыл бұрын
@@HowlingOneify Wow! They gave Darm 13 days!? That’s such a long time to let a meta develop!
@TruestAura
@TruestAura 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dragonstorm1234 this is not true, your were effectively itemless during dynamax with a choiced item
@gypsysprite4824
@gypsysprite4824 2 жыл бұрын
for the people wondering "Why not just ban gorilla tactics?": Smogon doesn't like to ban abilities/moves just because it's few users turned out to be broken with them. actually, low sample size makes it less likely for smogon to ban the move/ability in question because it makes the sample size too small for them to determine if the ability itself is uncompetitive or if it's because gamefreak gave it to a pokemon with 140 base attack. and they won't just ban specific pokemon from using specific abilities since Smogon doesn't like complex bans because, well, they don't want to make their ruleset too complex and set precedents that would lead to such. take Libero/Protean (same fucking ability) for instance. Cinderace and gen 6 greninja were banned for how well they abused the ability, but kecleon being bad showed that libero/protean aren't ultra-broken just for existing. As such, smogon can't really justify banning the ability as a whole, and their tendency to avoid complex bans means they won't just go "lets unban this mon but prevent it from using what made it broken" unless they absolutly have to.
@nimroddafny7125
@nimroddafny7125 2 жыл бұрын
When you really think about it Gorilla Tactics is a worse version of Pure/Huge Power and even Hustle if you don't get unlucky. Nothing that has these abilities is even close to being overwhelming in OU so there's no reason to ban these abilities and as such no reason to ban Gorilla Tactics. Darmanitan-G might not be too strong without Gorilla Tactics and I'd be lying if I said that I'm not curious about how Zen Mode would perform but the argument for banning Gorilla Tactics isn't there.
@Matt_Silverwolf
@Matt_Silverwolf 2 жыл бұрын
Then why not just ban specifically the Darm + GT combo 🤨
@XDjester
@XDjester 2 жыл бұрын
It seemed to work just fine when (Speed Boost + Blaziken) were banned to ubers. You don't have to blanket ban an ability.
@Wolf99555
@Wolf99555 2 жыл бұрын
I guess, but banning a pokemon + ability combo has been fairly standard for some time, it's not exactly a complex ban and would let people get to see what fire ice zen mode would be like
@darthhydreigon820
@darthhydreigon820 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt_Silverwolf to complex and its just easier ot ban the pokemon itself since what if zen mode is broken then u have to go back again to prevent it... and people can make shit up as to why a pokemon can be ou. Such as deoxys-a should be ou if you remove psycho boost and superpower from it or cinderace can be ou if it cannot use heavy-duty boots, etc etc
@TipOfTheSauce
@TipOfTheSauce 2 жыл бұрын
Remember kids: don’t give free attack buffs to Pokémon w/ already good attack
@derboeseVlysher
@derboeseVlysher 2 жыл бұрын
Sad Zacian noises
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Never expect any semblance of balance with Pokémon.
@hikerclarence7092
@hikerclarence7092 2 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest move that pushed gorilla tactics over the edge was not even its stab or coverage; it was u turn. Regular darm's flare blitz is actually stronger than gtactics crash because of sheer force, but the 1.5 times boost to scouting was ridiculous. Chip was effortless to spread throughout the team, and the only way to avoid it is to sponge with pex, one of the most easily taken advantage of mons in the game. Defensive teams were forced to sponge uturns with walls that invited other deadly wallbreakers (especially when dynamax was allowed) while offensive teams fared even worse by getting constantly worn down into submission by scarf darm spamming uturn on anything it outsped I think that's a general topic that would also make for a good why-does-smogon-do-what-it-does video: every time an overpowering offensive mon is banned, i see a lot of new players believe that top players are trying to preserve "stall" when in fact a lot of these mons stifle offense and balance way more since stall can afford to run multiple dedicated hard checks to certain mons while offense can't afford these passive countermeasures
@dawn2911
@dawn2911 2 жыл бұрын
Idk I think people dont realize that having one single mon over centralize and become neccessary to run offensive teams is Unhealthy to both stall and Offensive teams they just see one archetype and assume favoritism
@aaaaaa-ts3rw
@aaaaaa-ts3rw 2 жыл бұрын
RT about uturn bro, that move is so ridiculous Definitely pushed darm over the edge - there are so many mons where you can give them u-turn and change them from unviable to ridiculous threats
@Weareonenation303
@Weareonenation303 2 жыл бұрын
Galar Darmanitan makes Gen 4 Salamance a joke. Galar Darm literally has nothing that can wall it and only has very shacky checks like Avalugg which can check the Scarf and Salac set but loses to the Band set. Mega Slowbro would be another shacky check if it was legal, but easily loses to banded u-turn spam.
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 2 жыл бұрын
GDarm's actual true counter is Alomomola, but not only is it the only one, it also doesn't exist lol
@curfewcrewrobloxgames2141
@curfewcrewrobloxgames2141 2 жыл бұрын
HE HAS NO COUNTERS HE HAS NO CHECKS THIS MONSTER OHKO'S HALF THE DEX
@CammyMeeleTea
@CammyMeeleTea 2 жыл бұрын
Editors note: If pronounced "Oh koh" it lines up with the song.
@derboeseVlysher
@derboeseVlysher 2 жыл бұрын
Galar-Darm is coming to town
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
He can U-Turn, when he needs to And stretch his arms out to do a move Inflated stats just like a baboon This crazy yeti just digs this tune! Huh!
@floofzykitty5072
@floofzykitty5072 2 жыл бұрын
The Belly Drum set is another example of a "bad" set that is only good because gorilla tactics garm is so terrifying that the responses people have to it leave room for it to set up. The Belly Drum set would not be viable at all if the Scarfed/Banded variants of gorilla tactics garm weren't so good.
@Lonewulf321
@Lonewulf321 2 жыл бұрын
Meh
@henriquepacheco7473
@henriquepacheco7473 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I wouldn't say "werent so good" as much as I would say "if they didn't exist". As long as there's an alternate set that is meta viable, sub salac drum zen mode would be a viable alternate set preying on the usual counterplay.
@wailmoregd140
@wailmoregd140 2 жыл бұрын
Would the Zen Mode Belly Drum set have been overpowered too if they banned Gorilla Tactics rather than Garm outright? True that it requires a lot of setup, but the reward seems nothing short of catastrophic (160 Atk with a +6 boost is insane)
@LOgo-cv9ur
@LOgo-cv9ur 2 жыл бұрын
If they did keep zen mode darm while banning Gorrila Tactics, zen mode darm will easily be expected, and it won't have the opportunity to set up as much, not to mention after the dynamax ban hazards have been more popular making it more harder for galarian darm to set up and let alone having to deal with dragapults speed tier since dragapult is always in top 10 usage. So no, it won't be too OP
@warcriminalyes
@warcriminalyes 2 жыл бұрын
Zen Darm was infinite broken when dynamax was allowed. Force a switch, BDrum on the switch to activate Zen Mode and then sweep.
@voidroad
@voidroad 2 жыл бұрын
@@warcriminalyes to be fair dynamax just isnt competitive friendly its fun the game to fight gyms but very dumb in pvp
@acekun6493
@acekun6493 2 жыл бұрын
Zen Mode would make for an interesting suspect, its definitely not as braindead broken as Tactics and if Darm runs Salac 2 Attacks it doesnt have the power to force switches and get a sub and it also has moveslot issues as you usually want to run BD, Sub, icicle and EQ. It could also just run scarf or banded and spam Flare Blitz or take rocks damage two times to activate Zen Mode which doesnt seem too bad. Dont think it would be broken and it gives me some Blaziken vibes but who knows.
@justinbonano3329
@justinbonano3329 2 жыл бұрын
@@acekun6493 It wouldn't run salac at all. Galar Zen Mode gets 135 base speed instead of 55 like normal zen mode. It would just be belly drum + 3 attacks or maybe sub, flare blitz and eq. There aren't many pokemon it's able to set up on and get away with tho, so I feel like a banded set would be the most popular and get the most mileage. With the metagame now I feel like if they brought back only zen mode darm, that it would fall to UU. With all the fat water types in UU it could even drop to rubl. It's bulk is non existent, even pivots and passive mons will do major damage
@ramuk241
@ramuk241 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that blunder got 6-0'd by lead zen mode darmanitan
@redwarrior118
@redwarrior118 2 жыл бұрын
Darm-G isn't as threathening with a real sprite 😂. The 2D sprite one-shotting my leads with U-turn still haunts me
@Zyrexia
@Zyrexia 2 жыл бұрын
I am actually learning competitive pokemon, and all of your "why was xyz banned" taught me a lot, thank you
@bigj5401
@bigj5401 2 жыл бұрын
I loved using galarian darm in early Sword and Sheild VGC. I ran the choice band variant to deal disgusting damage.
@Gaurang_Karande
@Gaurang_Karande 2 жыл бұрын
Gamefreak logic: Let's give a Pokemon monstrously high Attack an built Choice Band what would go wrong? Yeah
@FlareBlitzBanana
@FlareBlitzBanana 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these in random the other day and it single-handedly swept the last 5 Pokémon of my opponent’s team. It’s even worse with dynamax.
@ZoofyZoof
@ZoofyZoof 2 жыл бұрын
GameFreak be like "Overpowered or extremely weak ice types, take it or leave it."
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Weavile is the only proper Ice type they have made that is competitive wherever it goes but never broken. The rest suck or are blatantly overpowered in the meta they landed in.
@Avatapaxn
@Avatapaxn 2 жыл бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 Mamoswine?
@henriquepacheco7473
@henriquepacheco7473 2 жыл бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 Mamoswine's not happy right now.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And Weavile is an accident specifically because Weavile is based on the Kamaitachi, a youkai meant to represent chilling wind. Had that not been it’s basis, the Sneasel line would most certainly have fallen by now. Froslass is useless in a world where Heavy Duty Boots exist and now is slightly-more-guaranteed Glalie, while Mamoswine is just edged out of being useful because of speed creep. There are no good Ice types at all, just Pokémon with the Ice type that have a meta with lower power levels and speed levels.
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Maybe a "Why Garchomp and Salamence were Uber in gen 4?"
@soniablanche5672
@soniablanche5672 2 жыл бұрын
cuz no fairies
@PauloAguil
@PauloAguil 2 жыл бұрын
In short.. Garchomp after an SD OHKO’d everything not named Skarmory. And most skarms got trapped by Mag or Chomp could just 2hko with fire move. Some Chomps could even brute force through Skarm with outrage spam + rocks. It also never died in 1 hit with a yache berry. Mence kind of the same issue, but moreso that it’s mixed set had no counters instead of a setup set.
@AlphaRax127
@AlphaRax127 2 жыл бұрын
gamefreak: umm so what ability would you like to have? G-Darmanitan: Choice Band gamefreak: Yeah that sounds great!
@CammyMeeleTea
@CammyMeeleTea 2 жыл бұрын
"Finally, some f-ing good Ice-types" ~ Gordon Ramsay adding U-Turn to his G-Darmanitan (2019 colourized)
@Seth_rs
@Seth_rs 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid good movepool, really good attack nice speed and built in band, plus the option of having sub with zen mode and option of running boots for hit and run option since you still have gorilla tactics boost, yeah this thing is overpowered like zacian in their respective tiers
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing compares to Zacian despite the fact that both their abilities do give a 1.5x boost.
@hunterotte9555
@hunterotte9555 2 жыл бұрын
Question, if you belly drum on a scarf set then have a healing ally use something like healing pulse that same turn... After it comes out of dynamax (provided it lives until then), do you get to pick a new move to use the rest of the battle or are your relocked into belly drum? And yes, I know even if this works it's an unreliable gimmick set... But I like gimmicky playstyles, it's just so fun when they work by some miracle.
@GravityIsFalling
@GravityIsFalling 2 жыл бұрын
It probably won’t be OU any time soon It’s bad in VGC so nerf is unlikely
@antoinepolnareff8970
@antoinepolnareff8970 2 жыл бұрын
In reality I think he is really good in VGC if you use him right
@GravityIsFalling
@GravityIsFalling 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoinepolnareff8970 Yeah no shit Anything’s good “if you use it right”
@worldiefeard8396
@worldiefeard8396 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoinepolnareff8970 he isnt for one main reason: Dynamax disables Gorilla Tactics, and without Dynamax it's far too frail on a bad typing in a metagame that has a ton of Rock Slides and similar moves. Same problem as Dracovish essentially: can't abuse Dynamax, and without it it doesn't offer enough to justify using in a bulker and slower metagame where Fake Out , redirection and Protect exist and are everywhere.
@antoinepolnareff8970
@antoinepolnareff8970 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldiefeard8396 Use Zen mode instead and life orb. That isn't bad in any way posible.
@GravityIsFalling
@GravityIsFalling 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoinepolnareff8970 How would you ever activate zen mode You die to any attack nothing getting to you half
@evansmith2832
@evansmith2832 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this menace was around I built a team around modest scarf dragapult to counter lead and ohko with fire blast if they didn't suspect it.
@AngelMeteor
@AngelMeteor 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a short video on why Aegislash went from Uber to UU!
@razorgliscor940
@razorgliscor940 2 жыл бұрын
Stat drop it went from 150 defenses to 140 which effectively dropped it's BST by 40
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 2 жыл бұрын
The generational power creep of the meta also managed to adapt to Aegislash, similar to what happened to Blaziken
@user-et6kz5sh8f
@user-et6kz5sh8f 2 жыл бұрын
they also nerfed king shield
@prokemongaming5149
@prokemongaming5149 2 жыл бұрын
Darmanitan-Galar got banned because it utterly ridiculous to stop it from automatically picking up a ko after it switches in with the switch moves. Let the damage calc speak for it. 252+ Atk Choice Band Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 196-232 (56.9 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Something as insanely bulky as max physical defense mega aggron takes 56% minimum from banded adamant flare blitz. Its quite literally "unwallable", also it's not like mega aggron is frail it is the most physically bulky pokemon in the entire game, I will show another calc regarding mega aggron's obnoxious bulk. Edit: This is the calc regarding mega aggron's bulk. +2 252+ Atk Garchomp-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 253-298 (73.5 - 86.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock It survives +2 adamant Mega Garchomp's earthquake after stealth rock. Edit 2: It's not like mega Garchomp is weak either and what I just showed was +2 yes but see this calc. +2 252+ Atk Garchomp-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro-Mega: 410-486 (104 - 123.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO It does minimum 104% to max physical defense mega slowbro which one of the most unbreakable tanks on physical end. I would not continue by showing how bulky mega slowbro is and bla bla bla but you get the idea darmanitan-Galar is utterly unwallable.
@user-et6kz5sh8f
@user-et6kz5sh8f 2 жыл бұрын
megas are not in gen 8 bro
@prokemongaming5149
@prokemongaming5149 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-et6kz5sh8f ik bro but I'm talking all over the national dex. Like you wouldn't find something as ridiculously bulky in gen 8 as mega slowbro or mega aggron.
@Milesprowerthegamer
@Milesprowerthegamer 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I've always thought, why wasn't Gorilla Tactics banned instead of the Pokemon as a whole? As far as I'm aware, Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan was strong but nowhere near as big of a threat since it needs to safely set up a Belly Drum rather than having immediate power.
@DarkDodgers
@DarkDodgers 2 жыл бұрын
Complex bans or whatever. Since G-Tatics wasn't an HA or something like that.
@LesbianWitchAcademia
@LesbianWitchAcademia 2 жыл бұрын
Because A, Smogon likes to avoid Complex Bans, and B, Gorilla Tactics is specifically broken on G-Darm, but wouldn't be broken on something like Primape. If Gorilla Tactics, itself, was banned from OU, that would automatically ban Gorilla Tactics from all lower tiers, so if another pokemon later got the ability it would have to be suspect tested back into OU, and then back into the lower tiers. It's much easier to just say "okay, Zen Mode has less than a 10% usage on this pokemon, so there would be no real loss just banning the pokemon as a whole instead of making a complex ban."
@gypsysprite4824
@gypsysprite4824 2 жыл бұрын
To put simply, they haven't banned the ability because there is not enough of a sample size to show that the ability itself is uncompetitive, and how much of it is tied to the fact that they gave such an ability to a mon with 140 base attack and a good speed tier for scarf. Smogon typically does not like complex bans for various reasons (a combination of rule complexity and not wanting to set precedents that would result in such). Every once in a while they do it begrudgingly, but only if they REALLY need to bring a pokemon back because the meta got fucked, hi gen 5 Excadrill
@Milesprowerthegamer
@Milesprowerthegamer 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a complex ban though, it's only a complex ban if something else has the ability. Surely it would make more sense to ban G-tactics in the gen 8 OU metagame since we know that *Gen 8* will never have a second Gorilla Tactics Pokemon? When a new gen comes around, non-legendary Ubers are often unbanned at first anyway, so they can look at it again in Gen 9 and ban the 'mon as a whole in Gen 9 if there are other 'mons with the ability.
@LesbianWitchAcademia
@LesbianWitchAcademia 2 жыл бұрын
@@Milesprowerthegamer But it's much easier to just ban the mon and then look at it later. Zen Mode G-Darm had less than a 5% total usage compared to Gorilla Tactics, so it's safe to say that almost no one used its Zen Mode form. This way instead of having to test G-Darm AND any other mon that might have the ability, they can just test G-Darm and be done with it.
@lillizilizard
@lillizilizard 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I ran banded Zen mode Darmanitan just to trick randoms into thinking I had enough power as is and waited til I got to under half health.
@henriquepacheco7473
@henriquepacheco7473 2 жыл бұрын
band zen mode's only situation where it has more power than banded gtactics is when you get the fire stab on fire blitz
@zephyrod7307
@zephyrod7307 2 жыл бұрын
The great thing is that sheer force normal darm’s flare blitz is still way stronger than garm’s icicle crash. Recoil factors in ofc but I swear darm is underrated
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that the only reason Galarian Darmanitan is used is because of a perfect alignment that will get broken come Scarlet/Violet.
@greninjafw
@greninjafw 2 жыл бұрын
Not to forget Icicle Crash's flinch chance which is relatively high Allowing it to break some things it wouldn't normally especially the Scarf sets lmao
@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001
@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 2 жыл бұрын
One of my past sets was Zen G-Darm with Endure and a Weakness Policy, still very strong but you can switch moves and it's kinda hard to set up.
2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget it can unlock itself from Gorilla Tactics with Dynamax and even get some stat boosts or get passive hail damage as well.
@david_cool427YT
@david_cool427YT 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man how did you get that custom avatar in showdown I wan't one with a gengar on it or something lol
@gigzpumpking
@gigzpumpking 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid. Can we get an indepth video on OG Kyurem? I'm really mindboggled by that dragon's journey. It always seemed like a lower tier threat from a noob's perspective, and was RUBL for XY and SM. Even just UUBL on its debut generation. If I recall correctly, wasn't Kyurem in UU when it first got out in SS? I don't even know anymore. I know it's pretty bombusted and the surroundings change probably helped a lot, but getting a video on its journey to Ubers in Gen 8 would be really interesting.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 2 жыл бұрын
I mean that journey can be described in one move: Freeze Dry.
@noishhater9138
@noishhater9138 2 жыл бұрын
bro is asking for a full on FSG video
@gigzpumpking
@gigzpumpking 2 жыл бұрын
@@noishhater9138 i'm waiting for fsg to pull one up but getting a small video on kyurem being banned to ubers is enough for me
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Freeze Dry and a Set Up move and Icicle Crash and Heavy Duty Boots. Then it has the power when needed but can also stall anything.
@henriquepacheco7473
@henriquepacheco7473 2 жыл бұрын
Freeze Dry let it have way too many sets with way too few actual answers, basically. Between subroost being able to hit most mons with freeze dry+earth power and flipping the matchup on special walls like bliss, 3 attacks roost hitting hard with good coverage, ddance sets, while not considered the best, still being nevertheless game-ruining if you're not prepared, and specs still hitting like a truck, it had way too many sets with way too different counterplay between each other. Getting freeze dry and actual physical ice stab broadened its plausible kit options too much.
@YuseiTheSynchroHero
@YuseiTheSynchroHero 2 жыл бұрын
As King Koopa from the OG Super Mario Bros. Movie would say ... _A MONKE_
@heatedchill6632
@heatedchill6632 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this one was gonna lead the same way as Dracovish's video, "You already know, but thank you for clicking on anyways"
@wesleywyndam-pryce5305
@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 2 жыл бұрын
is there an item that boosts defense when you get hit with a physical move like with special defense? if so, avalugg might be able to wall it I've been using avalugg in OU at least and it seems to wall super effective moves with no effort.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, but it's one time only. Avalugg already walls it decently but even if it can avoid the 2hko by flare blitz, darm could just switch into a special attacker while you recover and next time you can no longer wall it, and you practically need heavy duty boots on top anyways. Rotom-Heat and Rotom-Wash were pretty much the best walls against it, heat even more because of its U-Turn resistance. And Corsola-Galar. Darm-G was practically the reason Corsola-Galar was OU, that thing was the best answer to it.
@Lichtkrieger13
@Lichtkrieger13 2 жыл бұрын
yo that serene grace player in the vid looks really powerful
@hikerclarence7092
@hikerclarence7092 2 жыл бұрын
You oughta do one on the gen 6 xerneas that only ran 2 moves. Ubers players from back in the day know what I'm talking about
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
That is very extreme.
@aparnajana8030
@aparnajana8030 2 жыл бұрын
Loved to see the S1 G-darm getting reminisced Btw tomorrow it's showdown at SLC vgc s12 regionals😄😄😄😄
@TheNutshaq
@TheNutshaq 2 жыл бұрын
Galarian Darmanitan is my favorite Gen 8 pokemon, and it’s absolutely on my top 5
@snakeywakey3893
@snakeywakey3893 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved using Zen Mode on Galar Darmanitan. A lot of fun.
@maybeok5051
@maybeok5051 2 жыл бұрын
Who do you think was stronger overall? Dracovish or Galarian Darm? I gave it some thought, but I’d like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
@alibaba3568
@alibaba3568 2 жыл бұрын
Vish can at least be walled by an Ability (Water Absorb), but nothing is immune to Ice or U-Turn.
@r.o.n.8915
@r.o.n.8915 2 жыл бұрын
G-Darm. Vish had it's fair share of checks at least. G-darm just killed everything in sight :/
@themelonzone38
@themelonzone38 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if noivern had aerialate. The best way I can put it is that we now have a special attacking darmanitan G
@JohnnyYoungster
@JohnnyYoungster 2 жыл бұрын
A video on why Mega Metagross was allowed in gen 6 but banned in gen7? Or maybe megas that was banned in gen 6 but allowed in gen 7
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 2 жыл бұрын
Terrains: Mega Metagross was good at using all the terrains (Misty made it unstatusable; psychic gave immunity to priority; electric made thunder punch do more so Skarmory isn't a counter; grassy made Earthquake users ineffective). Also Toxapex made the main Mega Metagross check in gen 6 (Slowbro/Slowking) obsolete but Toxapex couldn't check Mega Metagross. Turn 1 Speed difference in gen 6 (base) instead of gen 7 (Mega) made Gen 6 Mega Metagross more manageable back then as well.
@PauloAguil
@PauloAguil 2 жыл бұрын
Main reason is that in gen 7 megas got their mega form speed on the turn that they evolve. So you have something that can 2HKO the entire meta, is really bulky and is rarely one shot, and has the same speed as Lati twins. In gen 6 they had their base form speed on the first turn. This is why almost every single mega had to waste a move slot for protect.
@xurvs
@xurvs 2 жыл бұрын
How do you get the automatic possible moves for randbats without the command
@SlickLH
@SlickLH 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious what the spread was for the vote to ban?
@Mepphy99
@Mepphy99 2 жыл бұрын
and the thing is this Monster also has Flare blitz that's broken and nothing like scizor or corv could switch in, so glad he was Banned
@poppyfrancis7338
@poppyfrancis7338 2 жыл бұрын
Even if G-Darm had sheer force only, it would still be a solid scarfer because it still has access to both flare blitz and fire punch, sacrificing STAB on it for some of the most ridiculous coverage on any one Pokémon with EQ and U-turn. This thing would have been UU at the absolute least, but seeing how people caught onto Dracovish there's no way nobody takes a look at G-Darm regardless of ability and thinks "Oh the nuke button"
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 2 жыл бұрын
I think a comment said it best: Is a monke? ✅ Can learn U-Turn? ✅ _Monke Flip_
@todayidraw
@todayidraw 2 жыл бұрын
It's like giving a pokemon choice band and choice scarf at the same time
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is one of the better funny Pokémon
@skellingtron817
@skellingtron817 2 жыл бұрын
when i first read body press i thought it used the users defense instead of the opponents def, not instead of the users atk, and i think for the first few days it worked like that on showdown because i used a min def garm with body press, and ohkod a tyranitar with it
@henriquepacheco7473
@henriquepacheco7473 2 жыл бұрын
that's a x4 super effective hit - if the tyranitar had no bulk investment and you had a neutral defense nature, that actually has a shot at ko'ing ttar, regardless of whether the mis-implementation you supposed happened.
@silverrey7379
@silverrey7379 2 жыл бұрын
The fact they made even Zen Mode viable on it scares me
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
And Zen Mode is still never the ability you want to run because even a redistribution of stats like that pales to Gorilla Tactics. Galarian Darmanitan is really overpowered.
@skazka3789
@skazka3789 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh good times. I remember resorting to max defense flame orb Milotic to counter this thing. Marvel Scale meant Milotic easily shrugged off Earthquake. Bit of a meme pick but it literally was the only true counter at the time.
@TehFoamy
@TehFoamy 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's also worth mentioning that the popularity of Gorilla Tactics made Zen Mode more relevant, since opponents would often play as if you have Gorilla Tactics until you use the Belly Drum, at which point it's too late
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
I love how there is no good reason for Zen Mode to exist on either Darmanitan since while Galarian Darmanitan’s Zen Mode makes its stuff worth using, its Gorilla Tactics is basically worse Zacian’s Intrepid Sword and normal Darmanitan’s Zen Mode is useless save strange mixed jank.
@mysticmongrel1289
@mysticmongrel1289 2 жыл бұрын
Gamefreak really said "Let's break the meta and give all our mons god tier power this gen" And Stealth Rock is still beyond broken this gen
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 2 жыл бұрын
Stealth Rock is weaker than ever thanks to hdb.
@rainpooper7088
@rainpooper7088 2 жыл бұрын
@Nicolai Stuhlmüller Yeah, because it was even more broken before that. Heck, Defog at some point used to only remove the opponent‘s hazards, so before Gen 6 that wasn’t an option to clear your side either. Heavy Duty Boots is another baby step in the right direction. It’s bs that certain Pokémon types (especially the underpowered Ice and Bug) become instantly unviable just because SR lacks counterplay options, especially now that it’s possible for certain Pokémon such as the Frosmoth line to faint from full health due to nothing but entry hazards. I hope in Gen 9, they introduce something that doesn’t just remove or ignore Stealth Rocks, but actively punishes setting them up if you’re not careful. Closest thing we have right now is Magic Bounce which is given to so few Pokémon you can see it coming a mile away. As long as Stealth Rocks can be learned by everyone and their grandma and there is no downside to setting them up, they will keep determining which Pokémon are viable based on nothing but how weak they are to Rock.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainpooper7088 then why was Volcarona OU in Gen5 and Gen7? Especially in Gen5 where Defog didn't even work as a hazard removal? "rocks alone decide viability" is absolutely not true. We had Talonflame, Mega Pinsir and Mega Charizard Y in OU, Volcarona, Weavile, so many more mons weak to rocks. Meanwhile Gen8 has made some mons like Zapdos plain up disgusting just because of hdb. Imagine Zapdos having the advantages of hdb with an item on top. That would be pretty strong. The thing is, rocks already is a punishment for excessive switching, because it makes switching risky. Remember how in Gen 6 stall became broken simply because they got a good magic bounce user that takes care of hazards so stall can freely switch as much as they want? Rocks are a major balancing factor in the game and don't affect viability as much as you think. And a lot of unviable rocks weak mons would also be unviable if rocks were removed. Moltres is pretty much the only exception to that. And in what would do rocks lack counterplay options. You can always remove them before going into your hazard weak mon.
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's an undeniable truth that Stealth Rock was inherently imbalanced before Gen 8 due to the sheer number of Pokémon that could learn the move Vs the amount of mons that could learn hazard removal (not even counting how good those individual mons are). It wasn't until HDB was released that the anti-hazard faction finally got a more universally accessible method than Stealth Rock, finally tipping the balance
@mysticmongrel1289
@mysticmongrel1289 2 жыл бұрын
@@breloommaster12 It became broken in Gen 7 It's even worse in Gen 8 even with Boots
@liamplayz3778
@liamplayz3778 2 жыл бұрын
Gmanitan also has the better zen mode and it gets belly drum, that's literally a game ender right there, the enemy also has to scout for the right ability
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t really have to scout because virtually every Galarian Darmanitan runs Gorilla Tactics.
@alexisdipoalo9443
@alexisdipoalo9443 2 жыл бұрын
Weirdly I don't recall this being to bad, though stall has a habit invading power
@user-hb7bo4mr2i
@user-hb7bo4mr2i 2 жыл бұрын
how is that related to stall
@alexisdipoalo9443
@alexisdipoalo9443 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-hb7bo4mr2i its not just a statement
@memedose4631
@memedose4631 2 жыл бұрын
This thing is very hard to deal with in ubers
@daveo311290
@daveo311290 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, couldn't galarian darmanitan still be used if the ability was banned instead
@yorozuyagin-chan6584
@yorozuyagin-chan6584 2 жыл бұрын
Facing this thing during early swsh randbats was a nightmare lmao
@RikiazGaming
@RikiazGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand why Darm-G was banned and not just Gorrilla Tactics though. Zen Mode could be strong, but nowhere near as overpowered.
@moneykenny119
@moneykenny119 2 жыл бұрын
Cuz Smogon tends to ban an entire Pokémon instead of just an ability
@raythehomie123
@raythehomie123 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think having a mon with 135 speed and 170 attack,even if it has to be in half health in OU is a good idea
@RikiazGaming
@RikiazGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@moneykenny119 In the case of stuff like Speed Boost Blaziken, yeah, cause they'ed rather say you can't use Blaziken than you can't use Speed Boost on Blaziken. But Darm-G is the only pokemon with Gorilla Tactics so just banning Gorilla Tactics wouldn't affect anything else.
@Mepphy99
@Mepphy99 2 жыл бұрын
complicated ban?
@bfc9467
@bfc9467 2 жыл бұрын
@@RikiazGaming but that doesnt make any sense to do. Darm is op bc of its op ability. Should you just ban geomancy and keep xern? Or ban fleur cannon and keep mag? Ban wicked blow and keep urshifu? Like half the mons in urbers have a signature move or ability. Should they ban every signature move and reintroduce them all to ou and see what isn't op anymore? If you ban specific parts of a bunch of different pokemon at that point you are playing CAP, not gen8 ou
@kazuichisouda2026
@kazuichisouda2026 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Choice D Dance/Swords Dance
@eleviathan7488
@eleviathan7488 2 жыл бұрын
You could even use heavy duty boots and still be busted while being immune to stealth rock.
@susamogus8331
@susamogus8331 2 жыл бұрын
I mean zen mode isn't half bad if u can get the set up off and not miss your moves
@TruestAura
@TruestAura 2 жыл бұрын
We asked for a good ice, and this happened
@MidoriNatsume
@MidoriNatsume 2 жыл бұрын
GF has seen that Darmanitan was only ever used with its Choice Band set and never with Zen Mode and said "Ok, you know what, now you either use Zen Mode or you'll never use more than one move!". And immediately regretted it.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if there's a chance Galarian Zen Mode Darmanitan could get a suspect test to see if it's legal. Also, what makes regular/Unovan Darmanitan so bad? Is it OU? Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@mr.potato
@mr.potato 2 жыл бұрын
Darmanitan is usually UU or RU because it has really high wallbreaking power with Sheer Force and Flare Blitz, but it takes huge recoil from FB and extra damage from Stealth Rocks. Water types in higher tiers wall it completely, so it's not too good in OU
@HowlingOneify
@HowlingOneify 2 жыл бұрын
Regular darm is viable on OU sun teams only..anywhere else and OU is out of the question. As for a zenmode suspect, absolutely not. They ban all of a Pokemon unless a specific element is proven to be broken or unhealthy and thus causing the actual problem. gTactics does not fill this criteria.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
@@HowlingOneify Gorilla Tactics isn't the problem? But isn't it what lets Darmanitan effectively run a Choice Band AND a Second Choice Item? Ergo, it's the core issue?
@HowlingOneify
@HowlingOneify 2 жыл бұрын
@@sagacious03 technically, but the issue is Darm is simply too strong. Strong typing, stats, movepool that all allow it to take advantage of GTactics. And GTactics comes with the caveat of locking into a move. Normally this is fine but darm is simply too strong to be bothered by this restriction. You could also ban a choice item on darm or ban it from running a stab move to balance it out.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
@@HowlingOneify You say "that all allow it to take advantage of GTactics"; That implies GTactics is STILL a part of the issue. But if it was only allowed Zen Mode, it taking advantage of GTactics wouldn't be a problem.
@Ozionian
@Ozionian 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you gamefreak very cool
@ratabreak3902
@ratabreak3902 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting a video about why was Articuno banned in BDSP
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
He already did that, and basically its only ability is an evasion ability.
@jpflame21
@jpflame21 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder what would happen if he had a second ability maybe then only the OP would be banned
@racg174
@racg174 2 жыл бұрын
what’s the reason behind not banning gorilla tactics
@giacomobongrazio
@giacomobongrazio 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great example on how a great ability can make a mediocre Pokémon good. Same stats, worse type, and it jumps from RU to Uber. As a Gengar fan, I hope it'll get a better ability in Gen9 (although I'm aware that in BDSP it's broken...).
@henriquepacheco7473
@henriquepacheco7473 2 жыл бұрын
Gengar was deliberately nerfed with a worse ability. I'd be surprised if it suddenly got buffed back up.
@MegaLolcade
@MegaLolcade Ай бұрын
where do these battles take place?
@mcgoldenblade4765
@mcgoldenblade4765 2 жыл бұрын
Game Freak really fucked up with Gen 8 balancing. I don't think any generation has had this much power creep before.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Generation 8 is a failure in every single way possible and no one will talk about those games again save the occasional Legends: Arceus talk and that assumes there is no better Legends game to come out. Then again, preparing a Pokémon for competitive this easily may be Galar’s feature because the story is explicitly about an official tournament, so who knows? The Pokémon games will be messed even further, and we’re just here to witness in which ways they’ll fuck up.
@frozenoutsideoctober818
@frozenoutsideoctober818 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 5
@gesundheitoh814
@gesundheitoh814 2 жыл бұрын
i already know this, but i still watch
@haydenz0
@haydenz0 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they ban the ability instead of the Pokémon?
@Awesome20801
@Awesome20801 2 жыл бұрын
Early squad!
@drakethompson5585
@drakethompson5585 2 жыл бұрын
This guy was even able to 6-0 blunder!
@xambrinhageymer3118
@xambrinhageymer3118 Жыл бұрын
My Archeops with Choice Scarf and Head Smash B)
@niki75
@niki75 2 жыл бұрын
Monke see "checks" and monke laughs.
@RediteTheGemBoy
@RediteTheGemBoy 2 жыл бұрын
I was recording while this was uploading..
@tyrellgary4462
@tyrellgary4462 2 жыл бұрын
Wish they gave regular darmanitan this ability as well
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 2 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not even convinced that regular Darm would be broken with this ability; its STAB have greater drawbacks + bulkier/more survivable resists than GDarm's STAB, making it kinda similar to the DarkShifu/WaterShifu situation
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, you have the middling Galarian Darmanitan that doesn’t hurt itself but has the worst defensive type vs the Darmanitan that has lots of power but hurts itself and has a slightly better defensive type? That actually is not a bad trade-off, and would be very nice to see.
@chieftoni1776
@chieftoni1776 2 жыл бұрын
Agency's finest
@pek5117
@pek5117 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, ive never even heard of this ability, banded is broken af.
@gnammyhamster9554
@gnammyhamster9554 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe gorilla tactics isn't a reference to the navy seal copypasta
@MrMK109
@MrMK109 2 жыл бұрын
Darmanitan-G was banned because it has trained itself in gorilla warfare.
@gravity8120
@gravity8120 2 жыл бұрын
But why did they ban G-Darmanitan and not just Gorilla Tactics? I doubt the Zen Mode set was too strong as well. It’s like if they looked at Arena Trap/Shadow Tag as problem abilities and decided “Dugtrio/Gothitelle must go.” Which iirc they didn’t do.
@HowlingOneify
@HowlingOneify 2 жыл бұрын
Arena Trap and Shadow Tag are uncompetitive abilities that are detrimental to a skill based competitive environment by removing player agency and interaction. They didn't ban gTactics because it isn't a broken or uncompetitive ability in any way.
@gravity8120
@gravity8120 2 жыл бұрын
But isn’t G-Darmanitan the only Pokemon that can have the ability? If other Pokemon can have the ability then I would agree that banning it isn’t the answer. But considering the only Pokemon that can have the ability is considered too strong with that ability, and has an alternative to make it more balanced, I do wonder why Zen Mode G-Darmanitan isn’t allowed. I could see it getting out of hand if they start taking that approach though. Like what if they just have Fishious Rend banned and not Dragovish?
@HowlingOneify
@HowlingOneify 2 жыл бұрын
@@gravity8120 they don't ban elements of a pokemon singularly UNLESS said ability is problematic by being broken or uncompetitive. It isn't darm broken by gtactica. It is gtactics broken by darm.
@gravity8120
@gravity8120 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a better way of looking at it, actually. I guess we did also have Greninja banned for Protean in the past, even though Torrent Greninja was perfectly manageable.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 2 жыл бұрын
@@HowlingOneify that's not really true though. For example look at when gen6 PU had a problem with two mons that coincidentally both used damage inflicting moves with a 100% confusion chance: Machoke and Chatot, the former with No Guard + Dynamicpunch, the latter with Chatter. In the former case the combination of No Guard + Dynamicpunch was also available to Golurk, which was still pretty mediocre even with it while Chatter was exclusive to Chatot, so what happened was that both Machoke got banned (since neither No Guard nor Dynamicpunch were problematic on any other mon than Machoke) and Chatter got banned (because it was problematic on 100% of the mons that got it). The gen7 Dugtrio case is another example on broken on one mon vs. broken on every mon that gets it. At first Dugtrio was suspected, so what happened was players switched to using Diglett in their teams and actually achieving similar success, so instead of Dugtrio the ability got banned. Same for Shadow Tag, the Trickscarf-shenanigans that made Gothitelle disgusting to deal with are just as possible with Gothorita, so the ability got banned and not the mon. Power Construct - broken on both Zygarde 50% and Zygarde 10% so it got banned. Thousand Arrows - only broken on Zygarde 50% and fine on Zygarde 10% so it stayed. Dragon Dance - broken on Kyurem-Black, fine on everything else, so Kyurem-Black was banned. Baton Pass - broken on multiple setters including Scolipede, Mew and Gliscor so it got banned. But honestly, Darmanitan-G Zen is disgustingly powerful with 165 attack and 135 speed and a ridiculously good dual stab, so it makes sense to ban the full mon.
@jmacmusashi7574
@jmacmusashi7574 2 жыл бұрын
What about zen mode galar darmanitan? Why is that one not allowed?
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Because if that stayed people could just ban Pokémon they hate for no reason or even more extreme, Pokémon with a move and ability and an item. Like Cloyster with a Kings Rock and Skill Link and Rock Smash and Icicle Spear. This setup allowed for Cloyster to flinch any opponent with 41% chance, which is absurdly high and far better than even 30% that Togekiss or Jirachi deal with. This was such a problem in OU that Kings Rock is now banned from any place lower than OU since it was clear that the flinch chance that was absurd. If it was specifically Cloyster with Skill Link and Kings Rock and Icicle Spear/Rock Blast that was deemed broken, then things like Dragon Darts Dragapult would show up, or Triple Axel/Beat Up Weavile, or Dual Chop Haxorus, or in lower-powered metas Cinccino could try for this very combo albeit to less effect and Triple Spin Hitmonchan may also start popping up. The point is that a complex ban is not allowed because it is too specific to solve the issue that led to the problem and because then a meta would be shaped by whatever was thought to be fair when the “fun of Pokémon is to let all the Pokémon shine and do their best wherever they may land in competitive”. Furthermore, all we know is that Gorilla Tactics on Galarian Darmanitan in Galar is broken. We don’t know if Gorilla Tactics on other Pokémon would be broken. And it probably would not be given that the ability assumes a powerful wallbreaker or instant sweeper - a Pokémon with defensive stats and weak moves would not benefit from this at all. That being said? Gorilla Tactics, by its very name, will be given to monkeys and apes only who would fit the wallbreaking or sweeping archetypes. But whether Gorilla Tactics is always broken is going to be noted.
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