Why We're Excited About Tesla's Future w/Farzad Mesbahi (Ep. 763)

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Why We're Excited About Tesla's Future w/Farzad Mesbahi (Ep. 763)

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Will CyberCab be made of stainless steel? What do you think?
I talk with ‪@farzyness‬ (Farzad Mesbahi) about:
• Tesla shareholder meeting
• Elon 2018 compensation plan re-approval
• Texas redomestication of Tesla
• FSD
• 8/8
• Optimus humanoid robot
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@farzyness 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for having me! Always an awesome time talking with you!

@steveo1574 2 ай бұрын

We love you Farzyyyy!!! Glad to have you on Dave Lee's channel

@rajeshramanathan8290 2 ай бұрын

@@steveo1574😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

@MarsOzzie 2 ай бұрын

@johnmacri7440 2 ай бұрын

Hope your wife is recovering Dave thank you for all you both do

@fpark101 2 ай бұрын

Dave is one of the people I trust and value for his opinions and views. I’m glad to see him sharing more about Tesla now.

@KJB123etc 2 ай бұрын

Need another James Douma interview soon please! 🙏

@perjohanohlsson 2 ай бұрын

An absolute must.

@Pikminiman 2 ай бұрын

Same. James is easily one of the most insightful contributors to this community.

@Cuda52774 2 ай бұрын

THE DREAM TEAM!! I need more of these two talking Tesla with each other!

@RobertVRuggiero 2 ай бұрын

Great content lately Dave! We missed you! Sending lots of love to you and your family ❤

@rwhirsch 2 ай бұрын

i can't believe both things passed overwhelmingly....it's so uplifting...now we forge ahead without anxiety.

$@fractalelf7760$

@fractalelf7760 2 ай бұрын

At least from the Elon faith perspective. The judge is under no requirement to lift the riscension on his pay.

@stueygewy 2 ай бұрын

@@fractalelf7760 The judge's main reason for overturning it was a lack of clarity/disclosures in the original 2018 vote. Tesla went above and beyond to remedy these concerns in the 2024 re-vote. No chance the judge strikes it down again.

@rwhirsch 2 ай бұрын

@@stueygewy stranger things have happened but at least elon isn't going anywhere because tesla and the shareholders didn't screw him.

@MrEd2291 2 ай бұрын

I strongly agree. While the Delaware judge may still disapprove, the chances of being overruled by either the Delaware Supreme Court or federal courts is great because all of the objections were addressed and voted on.

@Viking7771 2 ай бұрын

It doesn’t matter what the so called activist far left Biden puppet judge says anymore! Texas can draft a new package to be approved for the years past!

@Celestialrob 2 ай бұрын

It’s so good to have you back. So much talk about FSD and Optimus. I first invested in 2016 and bought an X in 2017. I invested because of the mission, then Elon and now these new things are a bonus.

@jeffmueller9422 2 ай бұрын

Dave, praying for a full recovery for your wife! Hope all is well my man! Thanks for the incredible content!!🙏🙏🙏🙏

@pv1762 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Farzad for mentioning Alexandra Merz in relation to the outcome of the vote. She played an important role. I appreciate her big time in the Tesla community.

@trevorcrandall3405 2 ай бұрын

Dave, I didn’t realize you were at the shareholder meeting - would have definitely said hello and thanks for your content! Nice hearing your thoughts again on KZfaq.

@MossJr-m2w 2 ай бұрын

*Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, 1 receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me*

@AlichGeorge 2 ай бұрын

There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!

@KathAnn-p3o 2 ай бұрын

But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?

@DawnDanielak 2 ай бұрын

It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus

@DawnDanielak 2 ай бұрын

Big thanks to Ms. Chisty Fiore❤️✨💯May God bless Christy Fiore services,she have changed thousands of lives globally

@TonyJackson-zd6lq 2 ай бұрын

How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?

@scott5770 2 ай бұрын

Wow Dave! I’ve never seen such passion from you buddy…Love it!

@bwdelisle 2 ай бұрын

This is definitely a dynamic duo

@bobdyck8508 2 ай бұрын

Great to see my two favourite Tesla guys together.

@MrLanceDUB 2 ай бұрын

Amazing conversation fellas! Glad to have you back Dave! Thoughts and prayers to your family.

@JLizard 2 ай бұрын

Coolest Tesla interview of the year! Thanks Farzad and Dave Lee- the world is becoming a better place.

@loctobert9421 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Dave and Farzad, those YES votes brought a much needed win for a good causes (in trouble times like now), and unity among shareholders, so thank you and congratulations!

@arleneallen8809 2 ай бұрын

I tend to agree with Munro on this. SS is expensive and heavy. Cyber is a look, not necessarily materials. Aluminum panels can be stamped with tooling that makes it look like the CT, and the tooling would be cheaper. I'm guessing the priority is cost and not aesthetics.

@BLAISEDAHL96 2 ай бұрын

We love Dave!!

@beachcrow 2 ай бұрын

Agree CyberCab will be stainless steel. Makes much more sense for long term durability, especially for city use and marketing.

@AugustaCedarCity 2 ай бұрын

It will be cool for Robotaxis to know your ideal temperature and it is that temp when you get in. Lots of cool potential features.

@williamwoo866 2 ай бұрын

Thanks guys. Dave great to see you again. Farzad your child will teach you so much. Enjoy. My Son has a child born on Jan 19, 2023. He try’s to talk but we talk baby language heeheee. I must be doing ok cause he has this huge smile.

@smithtimothy93 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if the reason FSD works so well in SF is better map data. In Michigan V12 gets into lanes that are ending a lot and other seemingly simple issues with high level map data. I would think Tesla could use the fleet to maintain a real-time map and maybe they are in SF. Most of my disengagements are planning issue that are simple problems if it knew more about lanes. Even incorrect speed limits aren't getting fixed. The car sees the sign and corrects it but it has to do this every drive.

@moreliberty1 2 ай бұрын

I'm with Dave. I think the Cybercab will be stainless steel. Not only the name, but the reveal date of 8/8 is a reference to the 88 MPH stainless steel DeLorean used as a time machine in Back to the Future.

@fredt7518 2 ай бұрын

You didn't speak about the private Teslas we wiil be able to put in the network to make money ... ?

@pauljun9265 2 ай бұрын

Great interview!!

@privatename123 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see a debate regarding how much can simulations get you to FSD. Waabi’s CEO thinks it’s enuf; Musk doesn’t. Musk’s view is a core moat of TSLA’s value.

@mikenicholas7132 2 ай бұрын

Dave is back! 👍

@cla4631 2 ай бұрын

I think 8/8 should be a collection of dreams. You have an invitation to the event, and you are picked up by a by the shuttle from the new parking garage. The host of each self driving shuttle will be the Optimus robot. The Optimus robot isn’t driving, but it’s having light conversation with you. The car will drive itself through the tunnel. When you arrive in the building you’re greeted by another robot who welcomes you and ushers you and your group from the shuttle to your seats. Fun to dream another great video thanks.

@Mojo16011973 2 ай бұрын

Thanks guys. I love both of your thoughts on where we are going as investors . Funny also watching Farzad being interviewed.

@normharper4492 2 ай бұрын

Great work DL and between the 2 of you...every base is covered during this TESLA game of life. Cheers

@robbaker5018 2 ай бұрын

Good to hear from Dave!

@johnrandolph3601 2 ай бұрын

Yeahhhhh!!!!! Tesla Dave is back. The calming voice discussing Tesla news.

@GabeGarboden 2 ай бұрын

Hey Dave would love to hear your thoughts on xAI

@Cruderacing 2 ай бұрын

appreciate your efforts, but really. Telling me the check is in the mail just doesn't work anymore after hearing it for two years

@natpainter8185 2 ай бұрын

rookie numbers...lol

@alancane1482 2 ай бұрын

Two years is nothing

@davidprince9244 2 ай бұрын

Regarding how far ahead they are, I agree with Dave but it could be more than 5 years, because remember Elon said if someone like Ford licensed FSD from Tesla, it would still take them 3 years + to get it integrated into their cars.

@williamellingsworth1643 2 ай бұрын

I love that Dave is posting again. Missed his take on all things in the Muskonomy.

@ekbiker 2 ай бұрын

Baidu said they are partnering with Tesla to rollout robo-taxi. I think this eases the data security concerns from the Chinese government and paves the way for wide adoption. Given the slow regulatory process in the U.S., I think China will have Tesla robotxi before the U.S.

@kylejackson102 2 ай бұрын

These guys love all the promises from Elon. It gives them content to talk about. That’s it. Is Elon buy shares, are these “influencers” buying shares?

@sireel 2 ай бұрын

Do you guys think that in addition to cameras, FSD could benefit from a sound sensor? I know that isn't part of the tech now, but certain driving situations do involve sounds. Thanks.

@allenaxp6259 2 ай бұрын

How did the M3 LR suddenly qualify for the $7500 Credit? Did they change the batteries? Please someone answer this question!

@davidmarkmann6098 2 ай бұрын

Yup

@robertdyer1235 2 ай бұрын

There are no Tesla long range cars that utilize LFP batteries, so those cars have batteries manufactured in the US. Hence the tax credit is available.

@allenaxp6259 2 ай бұрын

@@robertdyer1235 So why no $7500 Tax credit until this week for the M3 LR? My order that I placed for the M3 LR in April I was told no tax credit was available, Then a week before delivery of June 25 I received the tax credit. Also what batteries are in the M3 LR? Thanks for answering my question!

@eeblatter 2 ай бұрын

Cybercab Has got to be tough and durable as well as benign and approachable. That is a tough compromise to pull off. Stainless is good for no paint and dent resistance but it also should not pose as a visual threat to pedestrians and blend in somewhat so not to appear too dystopian. They will face a lot of resistance because by some who will see it as a threat as well as appreciation by those who don't want to use public transportation.

@visalus7 2 ай бұрын

So thankful you're back Dave. i continue to pray for you and your family. Thank you for all you're time.

@theSILENCEinHELL 2 ай бұрын

How can Tesla deal with Taxi unions? I am thinking about somewhere like Germany, where many cities dont even allow Uber because the unions are so strong.

@kdungan100 2 ай бұрын

It will definitely be a problem. However, in the long run, cities that keep the cost of living high will be less competitive with cities that keep costs low.

@devanois 2 ай бұрын

Since you've interviewed Farzad you can take the liberty of retitling video: mind-blowing interview 😂

@lloydlester8666 2 ай бұрын

I believe the move to Delaware was a huge play, pressuring a reversal of the decision, showing that Delaware will lose massively when companies see this decision as how negatively this precedent could affect them. Does any Judge want this to be their Legacy?

@craigsanchez212 2 ай бұрын

When I was using FSD in Phoenix, Az it worked very well

@DiseasedKodak 2 ай бұрын

Really glad to see you back Dave!

@AlainDoiron 2 ай бұрын

Rob! Please take time with Rob next!!!!

@tillwohlfarth6920 2 ай бұрын

Two of my favorite Tesla fanboys ❤

@chrismoore3999 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait to listen to this! Dave is back! Thanks Dave and Farzad

@shunfangin7645 2 ай бұрын

Some of the big funds changed their vote the last minute, could very well be that they were afraid investors will pull their money out from their fund if they vote No. This incidence made so many investors of funds realized they need to pay more attention including voting.

@tmaori 2 ай бұрын

Elon explicitly said current owners will be able to add their vehicles to robotaxi fleet when they want. He mentioned the Air BnB model. I don’t think he would have said this if it wasn’t part of the bigger plan. It would take time to build fleet of driverless robotaxis so having any Tesla owner able to add their car to the fleet would allow a more rapid growth of fleet and a “buffer” as the driverless fleet grows.

@d1amonddbw 2 ай бұрын

Good convo. I'm on the road 4 days weekly. So far, very little evidence of 'Intelligent Life'

@KrisTC 2 ай бұрын

Dave is missed you and your well thought out content so much. Very happy to see you back. Hope the family are doing ok ❤.

@kyleright7346 2 ай бұрын

I don’t see Tesla doing remote controlled. I see them rolling it out in states that have Tesla insurance to Tesla owners. Tesla owners can operate Tesla’s network and profit like Uber. Tesla can also lease out their cars to individuals (currently Uber drivers).

@MarcioSouza1 2 ай бұрын

Elon said in shareholder meeting they could remote control cars that get stuck.

@kyleright7346 2 ай бұрын

True, but he didn’t say when and that would ruin their big surprise. Image the gasp when he announces on 8/8 and we’re rolling it out today with supervised driving and plans to operate remotely by x day. In my mind, remote operations should be for that 1/10,000+ miles. This would get the cars on the road quick and more data about ride hail. Plus drivers could help get customers used to the Tesla experience.

@DonBrowningRacing 2 ай бұрын

A no vote would have meant we as stock holders do not honor our pledges and contracts. I would have sold my shares and disassociated myself from Tesla. I keep my word.

@tysonreed6169 2 ай бұрын

If I can’t add my 2019 model 3 to the fleet, biggest class action lawsuit ever.

@ronking8726 2 ай бұрын

The lead is short because others will steal the knowledge. Just like Matthews the supplier on DBE. So sad. Wonderful conversation. Thank you

@mattsenkow6986 2 ай бұрын

*It's an attack vector to allow human drivers to remotely control vehicles. A "terrorist" could destroy lives by piloting one disastrously* Waymo solved for the attack vector. Read their blog post on it "Fleet response: Lending a helpful hand to Waymo’s autonomously driven vehicles" They allow humans to only 'suggest' inputs to the vehicles, but in the end the vehicle makes the decision of whether or not to follow the instruction. Also, I think it's possible they will build the Cybercab on the existing Cybertruck line(s).

@billhollis3697 2 ай бұрын

Riders can have a profile such as temperature, seat heating/cooling, lumbar support setting, angle of seat back, leg room etc. Once profile is set then every ride is pre-configured and rider does not have to use the app for their requirement each time.

@williammadigan4026 2 ай бұрын

Great interview, stimulates lots of speculation. I think the wild card in both the FSD and Bot progress is the alacrity with which the neural net is learning. My Spidey sense is tingling, I think things are moving at a much faster rate than is generally thought.

@VikasSharma-kv6dj 2 ай бұрын

Cybercab: great convo. Elon might try to bring some efficiency of scale by merging cybercab and Cybertruck parts and maybe assembly lines!

@BLAISEDAHL96 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see an investigation into Cruise’s Origin and where it went wrong. It was such a cool idea for a robotaxi, but just not the most scalable approach.

@dharenchadha 2 ай бұрын

What’s the take rate on FSD after the $99 offer? Why doesn’t Tesla disclose it?

@whodatcatt 2 ай бұрын

SS is more expensive but you’ll want the body to last as long as the motor and the battery. That brings the per mile cost down which is pertinent for a rental.

@BraDrum458 2 ай бұрын

On 12.4.1 - Assuming a fleet of 6 million and 10k miles driven per year, then 1 intervention per year is 16,438 interventions each day across the fleet. If 1% of those are safety critical, that’s still a large daily number for regulators to approve robotaxi. (Although, probably a much smaller number compared to human drivers). Makes me think that we may have to get to 100k miles + per intervention before robotaxi can scale

@WhoIsCalli 2 ай бұрын

Fun chat guys

@mikeavery4098 2 ай бұрын

The shareholder vote must have been huge because they put out a video so they advertise the shareholder compensation package but they don't put commercials out for their vehicles it's weird.

@nilishwar 2 ай бұрын

Can somebody correct me if I misunderstood but I thought with Farzad's interview with Tasha Keeney Tasha said that they and them over there at Ark don't feel like optimus is going to add any improvement other than 1% to the cogs of Tesla?

@frostbittenarts 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Dave and Farzad!! I voted and I'm so glad it went the way it did. Elon can breathe and be invigorated and the move is so super important as well. I love when Dave said '... this market is a vacuum, and Tesla is going to come in and suck it all up!' LOL. True!! Cybercabs, robotaxis, optimus robots... Hello, future.

@shawnfraser4699 2 ай бұрын

I know you are both US based, but the roll out to the rest of the world is going to take a long time. In the UK we still run with the old autopilot stack (even though I got FSD with the car in 2019), so it does things like suddenly jerk the wheel to the left when passing a motorway junction while saying "keep right". A long way from FSD / robotaxis here ;)

@jinsaitoda 2 ай бұрын

THEY SAID IT WAS "CYBERESQUE" NOT A CYBER-CAB. SO THERE WILL BE DESIGN CUES THAT INCLUDE LARGE FLAT FACES OR THE STEEP ANGLE OF THE FRONT WINDSHIELD ETC.. BUT IT WON'T LOOK LIKE A MINI CYBER TRUCK, I THINK IT WILL BE IT'S OWN THING IN OF ITSELF AS IT LITERALLY IS SOMETHING WE HAVE NEVER SEEN ON EARTH BEFORE.

@richardalexander5758 2 ай бұрын

Bigger than the model 3 was the Chinese government cutting the red tape for Giga Shanghai late in 2019 when 30% of TSLA was sold short. Even then the stock price didn't take off until Tesla actually turned a profit.

@jaykay1852 2 ай бұрын

One component of the robotaxi/cybercab that must be factored in is Optimus. He/she must travel alone to run errands, or may be required to accompany you on trips (as a companion and/or security.) So, will he/she automatically subsume/control the vehicle when it gets in (like R2D2?) It will have HW5 presumably and will it have neuralink to future proof the system? Lots to think through-but, regulators will limit release initially to one or to a few small city(ies). Accident liability is not a small or simple issue to address with a hand wave. Don’t get me wrong, I want this to succeed and believe Tesla will do it, but we need a video that breaks down all the issues in a deep dive with some open minded experts. Thanks for all you do.

@jamesrina6988 2 ай бұрын

CES in Jan will have the first robotaxi rides in the Tunnels in Vegas.

@IndigenousEarthling101 2 ай бұрын

Institutionals should, at bare minimum, poll their constituents/members/clients before voting in accordance with poll results.

@gansmaier3994 2 ай бұрын

Why they should not add the current fleet? They could use inventory or lease cars that came back. The software is developed on that fleet so its obvious.

@hudsojt 2 ай бұрын

Serious questions; Do you think the simultaneous development efforts of FSD and Optimus are a negative or a positive for reaching real-world physical autonomous AI? I think it is a significant positive benefit that no other company but Tesla can claim as assets. How close do you think we are to sharing our world with physical autonomous real-world AI? I think the moment is sneaking up on us and most people are totally oblivious to how close we are to this future. FSD (Supervised) 12.3.6 is amazing. If training is the answer for solving both FSD and Optimus autonomous real-world AI then we are watching it all unfold right before our eyes. My opinion is that with even a worst case of increased necessary training involving some backtracking we are within months of safe functioning FSD and Optimus real-world autonomous AI.

@elvinthalund5193 2 ай бұрын

The limiting factors for FSD and Optimus are different. For FSD it's NN capabilities and for Optimus it's hardware scalability. There are plenty of meaningful use cased for Optimus with current NN capabilities, so Optimus is a matter of hardware scalability. With that in mind we will see significant (measurable and projectable) impact to Tesla's P&L from AI within 3 years, latest 2027, but likely already in 2026.

@AlexRicketson 2 ай бұрын

My biggest concern with FSD isn't the software, it's the camera setup. I don't see how it could work in all scenarios without having cameras on the front and back bumpers pointed to the sides (like a hammer head shark). For example, let's say you're parked between two uhaul trucks and you need to get out of the parking space. Uhaul trucks are so big that there's no way you can see cross traffic as you pull out. A human driver would just pull out slowly and hope for the best, but that's still risking someone hitting you as you pull out. But if there were cameras on the bumpers the car could pull out a couple inches and be able to clearly see any traffic. The current Tesla camera setup is positioned at the middle of the vehicle where the driver sits, and it seems like a major flaw and limitation for visibility. FSD should aim for perfection, because the public is going to hold Tesla to that standard for safety whether it's reasonable or not. Why not add more cameras to the bumpers for improved safety? Heck, they could even add a camera underneath the car so that the car can check for small children or pets that may be playing or hiding. I can already imagine the headlines saying a child's death was avoidable if only the car had cameras that could see the child hiding underneath. FSD has the potential to be exponentially safer than a human, but to achieve that Tesla HAS to eliminate all of these blind spots.

@kennyg1358 2 ай бұрын

It won't be very long before all cars on the road are networked and can share data and fill in each other's blind spots.

@sitarang07 2 ай бұрын

The vote down could also mean the direction is right but the compensation is too high since value has not been generated as expected, it’s amazing how two smart people can totally get blindsided by their investments

@ricasperger 2 ай бұрын

I find it harder and harder to listen to them, as they always and only talk about bullish scenarios. Not a single negative aspect is ever discussed

@irocksobad101 2 ай бұрын

Yep. No alpha at all. They've been bullish the past 4 years and Tesla has significantly underperformed the rest of the market. Tesla was a 0% interest rate phenomenon.

@magnushyldahl9489 2 ай бұрын

@@irocksobad101I don't recall the s&p500 delivering a 11x in the past 5 years😂

@magnushyldahl9489 2 ай бұрын

@@irocksobad101I don't recall the s&p500 delivering a 11x in the past 5 years😂

@PeterHocking-mh2wc 2 ай бұрын

Me also

@vince844 2 ай бұрын

People want to be told what they want to hear and these guys take full advantage by cashing in from KZfaq.

@CSNeoM4A1 2 ай бұрын

App Store for the bot to do new tasks?

@edh4204 2 ай бұрын

What if it's stainless steel but not the cold rolled 10x hardcore steel, maybe its a folded steel thats cheaper and easier to work with but still more sound than the fiberglass or whatever most oem's use

@MrSoloDev 2 ай бұрын

I mean. Objectively, Dave have no choice to be positive about Tesla. You're invested to the tits on Tesla. And meanwhile, did you miss the Nvidia train ?

@fredguild2520 2 ай бұрын

Farvad…. when you’re trying to talk to a guest quit saying ‘Man’ it makes you sound so uneducated….

@divyv20 2 ай бұрын

Hey Dave , very good video . I can do better editing in your videos which can help you to get more engagement in your videos . Pls lmk what do you think ?

@imoldovann 2 ай бұрын

38:20 I would disagree a bit. I think cyber does not emphasize the shape or looks as much as it does the functionality (as in computer controlled driving) and the fact that this is the next level of technology

@steveseeger 2 ай бұрын

You don't need 1 to 1 remote driver always monitoring. You wait for the car to have an intervention, then there is a queue of remote drivers who take over when that happens and there is enough spare capacity of them to not wait.

@larrylotter7190 2 ай бұрын

I think it would be possible to design a driving test(s) that both a really good human driver and FSD could be scored

@cyberbull23 2 ай бұрын

We need to start talking about all these companies who have comple monopolies on the three legs of the AI triad: compute, algorithms, and data. I see TSLA, Apple, Google as leaders. I also see Palantir taking a stronghold on the algorithm side similar to how Nvidia has a hold on the hardware. compute side. Then let’s talk about who owns the picks and shovels-compute providers,

@hobbies222 2 ай бұрын

Elon musk is the best

@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl 2 ай бұрын

Hes just a bullshitter!

@tapuzak 2 ай бұрын

@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nlyeah he never created any value. Never landed a reuseable rocket, never turned the fossil fuel industry upside down, never made any progress with neuralink, and will never save any lives with FSD!

@LarryRichelli 2 ай бұрын

You Tesla fan boys are great, but come on, the stock in not going up at all!

@garycarson3128 2 ай бұрын

IMO, Dave is wrong here which is very rare. The Cybrtrk was designed not to appeal to everyone. The CyberCab needs to be designed for everyone. It needs to be styled so that everyone likes the looks, not like the Cybrtrk where perhaps half the people love it and perhaps half the people hate its looks. I think the Cyber connotation refers to futuristic rather than folded steel.

@mikez5243 2 ай бұрын

The only “time” Uber and Lyft can compete with the Robo taxi is during rush-hour when there are not enough Robo taxis available for everyone.

@tapuzak 2 ай бұрын

Cyber=steel. 100% Dave. This is going to be the most abused, keyed, controversial vehicle in history of mankind. It has to be dent proof scratch proof rust proof, stainless steel.

@Policy-Perspective 2 ай бұрын

The Tesla community GOATs, lets go!

@jondk 2 ай бұрын

A simulation - better than they can make it now - might be a way to create training data. Could that be the way for a new competitor to Tesla? Image simulations 100 timers better than what we have now.