Why We’re NOT Buying Mahomes (And Who We’re Buying Instead)

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The Geoff Wilson Show

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5 ай бұрын

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@old-schoolrookiecollector1667
@old-schoolrookiecollector1667 5 ай бұрын
Geoff says don’t buy Patrick mahomes.. I’m buying 10
@williamdunlapwaxnews
@williamdunlapwaxnews 5 ай бұрын
Facts
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
@@williamdunlapwaxnews Will Levis baby going to the moon!! I remember when people said Jordan was too high at 1K
@rayhildreth7821
@rayhildreth7821 5 ай бұрын
No, that is a stupid theory you want to collect in the goats you wanna buy in the goats whether they’re high or not because they’re value isn’t going to go down to nothing you buy Drake May and Caleb Williams you’re buying them on speculation, so if you pay $3000 for a Caleb Williams autograph and he bounces out of the NFL in three years, that cards gonna be worth 10 bucks when I’m Mahomes is going to be like a Jordan And it’s just gonna steady keep going up it’s not gonna go down. Speculating is stupid how much money is wasted on stuff like Desmond Ritter Justin Fields you go for the goats like I said they are going to be at a slow and steady pace up. They’re not gonna go down. They’re already set in stone speculating is not the way to go.
@williamdunlapwaxnews
@williamdunlapwaxnews 5 ай бұрын
I agree 100%.
@bubblesnz1059
@bubblesnz1059 5 ай бұрын
"they’re value isn’t going to go down to nothing " (their*) , nobody is saying nothing, but if you can easily save 25% + why wouldnt you?
@PoorMansInvesting
@PoorMansInvesting 5 ай бұрын
Everyone wants to get rich overnight, this slow and steady stuff doesn't work for today's average attention span.
@junkwaxmuseum8878
@junkwaxmuseum8878 5 ай бұрын
100% right
@danieljohns6084
@danieljohns6084 5 ай бұрын
Aikman put up pedestrian stats. They rode Emmitt Smith to those championships
@counterproof
@counterproof 5 ай бұрын
It’s important to remember that this season’s Chiefs team is their worst team out of their 3 SB winning teams. No chance the Chiefs aren’t going to make improvements on offense going forward.
@dwiii1635
@dwiii1635 4 ай бұрын
Mahomes agreed to clearing up $25 million in cap space rearranging his contract, too. They're gonna make moves.
@jeffcann9159
@jeffcann9159 5 ай бұрын
Any $ spent on Allen or Burrow instead of Mahomes will look really really bad in 10 years.
@ratedrstar8393
@ratedrstar8393 5 ай бұрын
But what if the chiefs win 3 in a row?
@jeffcann9159
@jeffcann9159 5 ай бұрын
PSA. 10 Jordan 1986 Fleer is worth $200,000 PSA 10 Karl Malone is worth $4,000 Bottom line. Buy GOATs.
@PoorMansInvesting
@PoorMansInvesting 5 ай бұрын
You're right, Wilt (the GOAT) in PSA 9 is $250K. Good luck finding a 10 to buy.
@MeM.Card.Collect313
@MeM.Card.Collect313 5 ай бұрын
Mahomes collectors are something different. They think he is already better than Brady and it’s hard to get a deal on Mahomes. Even on a year he doesn’t win a SB, he will probably win one the year after so they don’t really budge on his prices. Maybe if you are speaking as to regular everyday collector and hype but Mahomes isn’t effected by hype as much as like a stroud.
@kmik4466
@kmik4466 5 ай бұрын
The field is always a better bet in the NFL. 😂
@rayhildreth7821
@rayhildreth7821 5 ай бұрын
Stats are overrated you can’t go by stats when it comes to goats Emmett Smith has a rushing record, but he sure as hell wasn’t no Barry Sanders
@rudistorm3348
@rudistorm3348 5 ай бұрын
Emmitt was better than Barry and I was a season ticket holder for the Lions for his entire career. Yes Barry is the most exciting with all those well documented long runs. He also holds the record for most negative yard runs and 0 yard runs. He was the equivalent of a HR hitter that also strikes out a lot. Pete Alonso if you will.
@ryanra44
@ryanra44 5 ай бұрын
Drake Maye = Mitchell Truvisky 2.0
@TripleDouble32
@TripleDouble32 5 ай бұрын
Should I buy lebrons for long term hold
@PoorMansInvesting
@PoorMansInvesting 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't
@danielmcclorey6606
@danielmcclorey6606 5 ай бұрын
I Would
@brettfry5901
@brettfry5901 5 ай бұрын
The what if’s don’t mean anything. Mahomes gets it done love him or hate him. Great discussion guys
@jeffcann9159
@jeffcann9159 5 ай бұрын
I’d buy Mahomes in 2-3 months.
@MrDinocizmic
@MrDinocizmic 5 ай бұрын
Do not listen to this click bait crap. This is the same guy that said buy Will Grier over and over again 😂
@crazykev6491
@crazykev6491 5 ай бұрын
And Bol Bol. 😂
@grindstone11
@grindstone11 5 ай бұрын
And is still more successful in cards probably. Mahomes price hasn’t changed in two years. And that’s with winning the SB back to back
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
@@crazykev6491 Even a bad 7 footer can play in the league for 10 years. May not be the next Wilt but if you got in early you will be fine.
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
Hey Purdy was cheap and came back even Flacco and Gini Smith. Will Grier at a cheap price traded to a good spot might not be bad at these prices. Even Lazoris rose from the dead. You haven't seen Geoff have a give away Will Grier cards night:)
@MeM.Card.Collect313
@MeM.Card.Collect313 5 ай бұрын
If Andy Reed stays coaching and they stay together I do see him getting to Brady’s SB number. I’m not a mahomes fan but he is the best in the league currently.
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
You are right, no one liked Ty Cobb but guessing everyone here wished they had his rookie:)
@staleprad
@staleprad 5 ай бұрын
Card prices reflect: accomplishments and brand/like ability. Look at Kobe, not the GOAT but his cards are high ..mahomes is at worst, the 3rd best in the NFL history..but his brand is going to be huge
@leehaskins307
@leehaskins307 5 ай бұрын
Burrow is such a great QB but injury has hurt him bad.. that many injuries so early prolly makes him drop out of those top QBs in the league today… one more season ending injury could take him out…I hope that does not happen tho.. he is so good..
@williamdunlapwaxnews
@williamdunlapwaxnews 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it stinks . I hope he bounces back.
@12thandgrantcollectibles
@12thandgrantcollectibles 5 ай бұрын
Mahomes doesn't have to beat Brady in rings to be considered the goat. He will have him beat in every other statistical category by the end of his career.
@johnwayne9828
@johnwayne9828 2 ай бұрын
I cant stand mahomes, I think hes entitled and he whines. I can at the same time acknowledge that what you're saying is possible.
@Plan3t1111
@Plan3t1111 5 ай бұрын
would you sell your CJ Stroud cards or hold?
@dwiii1635
@dwiii1635 4 ай бұрын
Hold for sure. He's got a few bright spots in his future coming up you can sell him higher for.
@rayhildreth7821
@rayhildreth7821 5 ай бұрын
Sorry to keep going on Jeff, but that logic with Brady and Mahomes Brady’s cards are gonna cool down some even if Mahomes passes his records look at Jordan LeBron passed Jordan‘s records, but not as championships. I don’t see Jordan‘s cards, softening like anybody else. Brady‘s cards are always going to be strong.
@Kadenmccarter37
@Kadenmccarter37 5 ай бұрын
I constantly monitor Mahomes cards and it seems to me that his prices have been dropping since he won. At least his lower end rookie insert and like patch cards seem to be.
@renoraines6322
@renoraines6322 5 ай бұрын
Mahomes isn’t winning them the games. This is silly
@jumpoffstake5875
@jumpoffstake5875 5 ай бұрын
Yup! I recently sold his Prizm and Select RCs after the AFC Championship win and they rose 5-10% on a few sales right after the ring and now they’re dropping.
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
just because everything is baseball and soccer prospecting now.
@andygerth9258
@andygerth9258 5 ай бұрын
Jordan Love is the best QB buy rn.
@randyworden5232
@randyworden5232 5 ай бұрын
I am a Packer fan and seeing how much he has improved and how intelligent he is and level headed the upside is big.
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
Small market:( Not a superbowl seeking management:( President leaving soon:) Not a team looking to spend the money needed to win superbowls. 2 HOF QBs since 1992 and 1 superbowl every 15 years. Packer fan here but a realist. Anyone tell me that if these guys had played at Dallas or New England or even New York Giants that they would not have had more rings.
@randyworden5232
@randyworden5232 5 ай бұрын
Good logic here. .and Geoff your shop is amazing. Good luck...and make sure you're not too volume dependent. Hope to experience it in person!
@Wootensportscards
@Wootensportscards 5 ай бұрын
Dustin is da goat
@mrgreencity5749
@mrgreencity5749 5 ай бұрын
Love 🎉 how Geoff called out the Lions perhaps in the Super Bowl woot woot
@leehaskins307
@leehaskins307 5 ай бұрын
rings and championships are more important then stats… kinda like mickey mantle.. his stats are not top 10 but his championships make him great…. brady is the same… 7 rings…. if mahomes does not match or beat that brady will remain number 1. Plus brady in his 40’s beat Mahomes in his PRIME in a superbowl so that will always be the trump card that keeps brady on top… However, I dont thik Mahomes will get to 7 rings anyway...
@PoorMansInvesting
@PoorMansInvesting 5 ай бұрын
Ruth, Gretzky and Brady all had great stats. The only GOAT lacking in Chips is WILT with 2.
@jude999
@jude999 5 ай бұрын
Over production garbage. Vintage is where its always at long term. Supply and demand.
@renoraines6322
@renoraines6322 5 ай бұрын
Jeff is right actually. Brady cards were dirt cheap after his long Super Bowl drought around 2011/12. I bought his rookie contender auto BGS 8.5/10 them for $800. That same grade went for 75k after his Super Bowl. It’s now down to around 18k. Eventually Mahomes will have a season full of adversity without a Super Bowl and when he’s not walking out of that tunnel his prices will initially fall. Happened to Brady it will happen to anyone.
@j.tyler2024
@j.tyler2024 5 ай бұрын
Lol do get what you're saying. So did you sell after his super bowl. This shit makes no sense.
@renoraines6322
@renoraines6322 5 ай бұрын
@@j.tyler2024 I’m horrible at timing market. I sold for 7k around when he beat Mahomes in AFC championship. Damn
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
So did you sell the rookie contender? What price? Seems it matter to see if your forcasting prowess is good:)
@jamesd126
@jamesd126 5 ай бұрын
Smart move by Geoff bringing on the one guy in the hobby that knows less about sports than he does to look like an expert 😂😂😂
@ZiggyNo
@ZiggyNo 5 ай бұрын
So are you SELLING Mahomes? Why are you long on Mahomes and if you buy at the projected dip, what is your expectation? Are you 20 years long? Or would you buy at your projected dip and resell at next MVP or Superbowl? What is the risk if you buy at next projected dip and no more Super Bowls. Does it become a long term hold? Why would I want to buy Brady cards? They continue to dip. What will make them go up in value? HoF? Why would you lock any cash into "Long" holds if you both talk about cycles and dips. Seems like all of these cards with RARE exception decline over time. Aikmen, Bradshaw, Montana. (IMO if you don't see these players, it didn't happen) My concern with your video is you sound like you are pumping people to buy these players like Brady and Mahomes as long term holds but you give NO time frame and example of expected return. You keep telling us at the beginning not to BUY Mahomes, but you don't recommend a sell either? I would sell right now if I had Mahome and was equity positive. Last point, I know Dustin doesn't have any Mahome or Brady rookies, but you both could disclose your position in Mahome and Brady.
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 5 ай бұрын
niners more likely the favorites
@GrumpyBugger.
@GrumpyBugger. 5 ай бұрын
IMO the NFL certainly will not want another Kansas win next year.
@PoorMansInvesting
@PoorMansInvesting 5 ай бұрын
Possibly, especially if we see Swift make a trade in the off-season
@samhill93
@samhill93 5 ай бұрын
9:54 *10 years later
@tubenachos
@tubenachos 5 ай бұрын
I'm doing the opposite what this video suggests 😂😂😂
@rayhildreth7821
@rayhildreth7821 5 ай бұрын
But you’re saying to get people like Drake May at the time when most people are speculating how good he’s going to be so they’re they’re buying him up right now that’s counterintuitive to what you’re saying so if they buy Drake May RPA for five $6000 and then in four years he doesn’t do anything he’s out of the league. Those cards are gonna be worth zero they’re gonna be worth nothing but if you buy Mahomes his are gonna go up and down but they’re never going to go to zero.
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
Sounds reasonable as people will always collect Mahomes. But that May has much more chance of double/triple/quadruple. Thats the gamble. What do you think GMs do when they draft and pay on the contracts on these guys. I invest like I would if I was a GM.
@user-oo2dh8wd3x
@user-oo2dh8wd3x 4 ай бұрын
The failure rate of top qb rookies is like 89%, do not buy them in place of buying a goat,
@jalenLaMarca233
@jalenLaMarca233 5 ай бұрын
Running back the playoffs can be true for brady as well. Seahawks run the ball and the patriots don't win. Falcons dont collapse after halftime and brady doesnt win that super bowl. Chiefs have their starting oline, i think chiefs couldve won in that superbowl as well.
@toppssportcardd
@toppssportcardd 5 ай бұрын
thats a lot of couda shouda woulda
@RobertLee-wi5kc
@RobertLee-wi5kc 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like football is a team sport?
@u_s_a_cards
@u_s_a_cards 5 ай бұрын
Lol. Der, OK!
@byergo
@byergo 5 ай бұрын
Very very very stupid “advice!”
@ratdog213
@ratdog213 5 ай бұрын
Great analysis - nothing against Mahomes but you buy now you are buying at the top of the market.
@HeMadNice
@HeMadNice 5 ай бұрын
Lonzo over Patrick
@stephenmpitcher
@stephenmpitcher 5 ай бұрын
Let Brady cards fall.......I will buy all day long!
@renoraines6322
@renoraines6322 5 ай бұрын
If Aaron Rodgers has the Mahomes defense during his career he’d have 3 rings too. Instead he’s considered a chocker in playoffs.
@joelkaplan2157
@joelkaplan2157 5 ай бұрын
2 great dudes chatting it up
@renoraines6322
@renoraines6322 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been buying Brady all day long. A f ing men
@mots9176
@mots9176 5 ай бұрын
His interception was terrible. By far the worst pass of the day
@dominicmenna2097
@dominicmenna2097 4 ай бұрын
Geoff do you watch sports it seems like you don’t understand how sports works you can’t re run a post season my friend mahomes is. 3x champ you sound mad Desmond ridder didn’t even sniff him lmao
@Wootensportscards
@Wootensportscards 5 ай бұрын
Lmao Kobe better then Lebum
@262Cards
@262Cards Ай бұрын
Youre speculation is absolutely brutal.... the opposite of wgat everyobe else does is NOT what you get from this guys mouth... Listen to these 2 for content if you want. Its well made on both ends and well spoken. But if you listen to this guy all he wanrs is you to sign up to market movers for $50 a month or come join in on his whatnot auctiond that sell for over comp most times. And are very clearly so uncentered they aren't worth grading. Its truly wild how bad geoffs takes have been over the years. They hype the next thing just tovprofit off children.
@realaudioreviews
@realaudioreviews 4 ай бұрын
Mahomes is better than Brady. Only statistic Brady leads in is rings which Mahomes has time to get more
@chrishayes4166
@chrishayes4166 5 ай бұрын
This is some crazy cataclysm of two "put Sports Card in your name and farm the clicks" guys who are both hysterically, so often wrong with their "picks". Just gotta sit back and enjoy the train wreck boys.
@dnictheone6063
@dnictheone6063 5 ай бұрын
Lmao worst advice ever sorry....
@n8t968
@n8t968 5 ай бұрын
With the title of this video and the general negativity on Mahomes you’re literally telling investors/collectors to quit collecting and screw the hobby as a whole. Why would i seek out a new player that may have a Jordan-esque performance by winning 3 super-bowls and changing the sport as it’s played if you tools are gonna trash it when they do well??
@alexmathewmendoza
@alexmathewmendoza 3 ай бұрын
Smoke and mirrors. Whatever he tells you to do, do the opposite.
@nugwrangler2129
@nugwrangler2129 5 ай бұрын
What a moronic take.
@bestbyfar1118
@bestbyfar1118 5 ай бұрын
Shut up Geoff I'm only buying patty thanks. Anything you say in do the opposite 😅😅😅😅
@alkroyalmusic5497
@alkroyalmusic5497 5 ай бұрын
Who do you think will win the Super Bowl next year?
@GiantsAlliance
@GiantsAlliance 5 ай бұрын
The Giants
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 5 ай бұрын
Ravens
@danielmcclorey6606
@danielmcclorey6606 5 ай бұрын
Buffalo
@randyworden5232
@randyworden5232 5 ай бұрын
Don't sleep on Green Bay.
@johnpawlowski2141
@johnpawlowski2141 5 ай бұрын
Mahomes would have to more than double his 3 Super Bowl Wins just to tie Brady. The likelyhood is very slim. Brady also has beaten Mahomes 2-0 in the post-season...once in the Super Bowl. True Brady collectors aren't worried about Mahomes over-taking him as the GOAT. Brady is the football version of MJ. I see Mahomes as Lebron.
@dacryptkeeper6836
@dacryptkeeper6836 5 ай бұрын
I live in the so-called "Chiefs Kingdom," and I collect TB12 . . . NOT Mahomes! 🤫
@williamdunlapwaxnews
@williamdunlapwaxnews 5 ай бұрын
Brady is the goat hands down.
@renoraines6322
@renoraines6322 5 ай бұрын
When Mahomes does it for 20 years we’ll talk
@staleprad
@staleprad 5 ай бұрын
Tom Brady is the Robert Horry of the nfl…mahomes is the MJ
@dacryptkeeper6836
@dacryptkeeper6836 5 ай бұрын
@@renoraines6322 AMEN!
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