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Why We Read Fairy Tales, Part One | Classical Charlotte Mason Home Education | Common Mom

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Күн бұрын

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@mrsbaconator
@mrsbaconator Жыл бұрын
This is such a good response to the Montessori method of only reading "real life" picture books, etc
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that was part of the their pedagogy! Very interesting.
@pienkunicorn
@pienkunicorn 3 ай бұрын
​@@thecommonplacehomeschool only real things with photos.
@RI-1261
@RI-1261 Жыл бұрын
"All good stories echo THE great story!" Wow, so good! 👏😊
@MysteryExodus
@MysteryExodus 6 ай бұрын
This was so interesting to listen to. I’ve been reading a lot of Montessori and they do not recommend reading fantasy to children under 6 years old and that didn’t sit right with me. You articulated it so beautifully.
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool 6 ай бұрын
I've heard this before and was completely flabbergasted by it!
@jessica_wood
@jessica_wood Жыл бұрын
This is what I love so much about the Mason method. When kids learn about trees for example - they don’t do so through a diagram of the parts of the tree or a dry textbook, they instead get Arabella Buckley writing delightful words about the life of a tree as if it were a person. It’s beautiful because it opens the eyes of the child (and mother in a lot of cases) to the deep interest of literally *everything* that exists in the world. A passionate teacher can make literally any subject as enchanting as a fairy tale and THAT is what is so special about “living” books. Also - I thought the new camera looked great actually as soon as I saw the thumbnail. What is it?
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
100%. The living books show our children how to see Reality in their midst. I can't imagine not giving them to my kids! And thank you! So good to hear. It's the Sony A7Riv. I'm a wedding photographer, so I have real gear but I've been using a vlogger point-and-shoot since I'm less familiar with video. I decided to start using my professional gear and get to work on learning the ropes of video settings and editing! I expect the learning curve to be worth it!
@akieffer
@akieffer Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the distinction between truth and fact. I think that applies in SO many ways!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
It is one of my favorite classical nuggets! It really unlocks a whole world!
@katherinestevens9253
@katherinestevens9253 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see some of your family's favourite versions of fairy tales! Please share. Love this content. There is a lot packed into this video!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Oh, such a good question. We stick with the old ones: Grimms, Andersen: Blue, Yellow, etc. Fairy Book. But if we think about enchanted stories, I would include so many from Narnia and beyond! I do recommend reading "On Fairy Stories" by Tolkien because he nails what is a fairy, a fairy story, a fairytale, and Fäerie. (He'd honestly not be pleased with how little I defined my terms here! Ha!!)
@beckymay439
@beckymay439 Жыл бұрын
That was FANTASTIC!!! I've watched many, many of your videos and that was the best ever. Thank you for inspiring and encouraging us. 💖
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Woo! Thank you, Becky! Magic stories can be dangerous ground, so I'm grateful for your encouragement here!
@hannahbaker2856
@hannahbaker2856 3 күн бұрын
Here's a can-of-worms-opening connection I made to your points in discussions with my husband over recent weeks (spurred in part by Kevin Vanhoozer's book on hermeneutics, Is There a Meaning In This Text?): the worldview within parts of the Christian community that says that one should avoid non-factual truth (i.e., fairy tales, Narnia, etc.) is the same one that has not only swallowed an oversimplified form of Enlightenment Baconianism, but also hasn't realized that it has done so and thus claims to interpret Scripture solely by "the plain meaning of the text" which turns out to be in line with predetermined views on said text. Thank you so much for this video!
@fallonbernard4499
@fallonbernard4499 26 күн бұрын
I’ve never thought to watch chronicles of narnia. I guess we will watch it today
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool 25 күн бұрын
If you have the chance, read them instead!
@everywherejoy9019
@everywherejoy9019 Жыл бұрын
One of my grandson’s favorite saints is St. George the dragon slayer!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Ah, St. George! He is my eldest son's favorite saint as well.
@Spencer_Lacey
@Spencer_Lacey Жыл бұрын
LOVE this! I’m a second generation Charlotte Mason homeschooler & Lord of the Rings & Narnia have the most special place in my heart 🤍
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
I love that. I hope it continues to be a gift to my children as they grow!
@xJrBoothx
@xJrBoothx Жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist, but I find so much wisdom in your videos. I find it interesting about your idea of the bible being the ultimate story and maybe that would be one of the reasons that some people cannot believe the bible to be true if it seems like a story with frameworks where good always wins like we are used to reading in fiction.
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Hmm. I could see the modern cynicism making it difficult to reconcile a good God with evil in the world or the hope of Good winning in the end, for sure. But I'd still point back to the mythic and moral imaginations which come alive in most people when they engage with story: You know Frodo is the hero, not Sauron. And you hold out for hope no matter how dark the story becomes. I think if you work backwards you'll also find that all stories echo certain truths (across time, place, and people) which reach their fullness in the story of Christ, the God-man. If you'd actually like to do some more reading on this, I recommend Lewis' "When Myth Became Fact" or "The Abolition of Man"!
@caedplayz
@caedplayz Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the time you took to put it together. It was a blessing to listen to.
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@Commonmomhomeschooler
@Commonmomhomeschooler Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool 11 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@trussme3210
@trussme3210 Жыл бұрын
I really like the end about the dragons, I never thought of that and it's beautiful. I've been thinking more about that recently since I started listening to Jordan Peterson, he uses dragon imagery a lot.
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
A patron shared some of his thoughts on dragons and I thought they were spot on! And another patron (So many smart patrons! Ha!) uses the phrase "truer than true" with her kids because dragons are real; they may be archetypes, metaphors, or literal, but they are true and lift the veil of our limited world to show us Reality.
@michelleb9508
@michelleb9508 Жыл бұрын
Love, love, love this! Beautifully and articulately communicated. I look forward to part two!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I love fairytales!
@lindsaybarlow7946
@lindsaybarlow7946 5 ай бұрын
So often when you speak of magic and the enchantedness of our real world, I hear ND Wilson! So funny to hear you quote one of his sisters. Also, my classical self wanted write you a letter to say thank you! I’ve listened to so much of what you have to say about CM, classical learning in general, but especially fairy tales. The well had run dry over here on story for us, and then it hit me! Saint George! We listened/watched the Caldecott winning picture book on a KZfaq story reading podcast, and my 3 year old son loved it. (And who wouldn’t?!) It has been so informing to me as a mother to a son, but also has strengthened his little heart so much already. My heart is full and we will most definitely be celebrating St. George’s Day in April! 🗡🐉
@lindsaybarlow7946
@lindsaybarlow7946 5 ай бұрын
And then we promptly borrowed it from the library!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool 5 ай бұрын
St. George! A true hero in this house! I’ve never read ND Wilson but I did listen to What Have You for years! (I no longer have a smartphone so I rarely listen to anything.) I loved their conversations.
@lindsaybarlow7946
@lindsaybarlow7946 5 ай бұрын
The first exposure I hate to ND was his book Notes from the Tilt-a-Whirl. His defense of magic sounds much like yours, and has said a few helpful things re: Harry Potter in his podcast Stories Are Soulfood that I’ll have to revisit when we decide whether or not we’ll let our children read those.
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool 5 ай бұрын
@@lindsaybarlow7946 Lovely! My guess is we’re both echoing the same beloved writers. I always love how ideas can be bridges between people and shared threads to weave a larger picture!
@jadadhite
@jadadhite Жыл бұрын
Such a blessing! Cannot wait to hear part 2!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Coming on Monday!!
@tanya4149
@tanya4149 Жыл бұрын
This was so beautifully said! Looking forward to part 2!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Should be up in a couple of weeks!
@madeforthis1558
@madeforthis1558 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your next video on magic. I find myself having that conversation often with moms who don’t know if they should let their kids read books with magic in it, usually Harry Potter is the debated topic. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
I didn't grow up as a Christian so it was a great surprise to me when I learned that HP was a THING within the Christian conversation! But yes, the next video will touch on the magic itself!
@BarbaraVance
@BarbaraVance 10 ай бұрын
thank you for this video! would love to have book recommendations that get into these topics in more detail. esp. on truth vs. fact and the enlightenment. thank you!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool 10 ай бұрын
Ooh yes. It's a whole world! I'd recommend reading a lot of Lewis, Tolkien, and Chesterton to get your head around truth/fact. Then I recommend Joshua Gibbs' new book, Love What Lasts, for some helpful commentary on the Enlightenment within this classical conversation.
@WildBison74
@WildBison74 Жыл бұрын
I loved this. Thank you.
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
So glad to hear it!
@teacupsandfairies692
@teacupsandfairies692 Жыл бұрын
Love this!! Fairytales are my favorite
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Same.
@HMSmueller
@HMSmueller Жыл бұрын
I would love to take a class from you on Lewis's ideas and essays. Would you ever consider doing something like that?
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
I would love to work on preparing a whole project of just Lewis! (Jack is my dear friend.) I will definitely keep it in the back of my mind!
@derekgillespie7423
@derekgillespie7423 Жыл бұрын
Spot on - could not agree more. May I recommend “Lifting the Veil” by Malcom Guite ( if you have not read it yet ).
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
It's on my shelf and I really do need to read it! Thank you for the reminder!
@everywherejoy9019
@everywherejoy9019 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Yes! Yes!
@Homegrownknits
@Homegrownknits Жыл бұрын
Dang that was fire
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Love me some fairytales.
@aprilbarker1028
@aprilbarker1028 Жыл бұрын
How do you determine which fairy tale editions to get? I know language and original sources are important but how important are good illustrations as well?
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Ah, this is so hard! I have so many bad copies of Grimms! I will usually do a Google search to get a feel for editions people recommend. (Our curriculum, the CMEC, actually provides this information now which I love!) I think illustrations are very important and I've found that the better editions also come with better illustrations!
@travisambers6307
@travisambers6307 Жыл бұрын
Hi Autumn! Thank you for your video, this might be my favorite so far! Have you ever watched the video series How Should We Then Live by Francis Schaeffer? I believe you would enjoy it. Also, what are your thoughts on those who just plain do not enjoy fairy tales? Is there something else that can fill the void of fairy tales? I have a few friends like this and they find my ideas very hard to engage with because they feel zero draw to books like Narnia. It makes me sad for them - it seems like they are missing out on so much!
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
It's on my shelf and I believe that I would enjoy it too! I keep meaning to get to it! Ah, those who have grown cold towards fairytales. Yes, it is sad. But not without hope! As Lewis said, we're all old enough fairytales again one day. I recommend starting with really good novels. Getting lost in a story (or, the ability to be self-forgetful) is a necessary part of enchanted tales too and something kids are so good at, while we adults struggle to enjoy Otherliness.
@preciousbees5721
@preciousbees5721 9 ай бұрын
My question for classical education is do I put too much weight on education for the place that salvation should hold?
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool 9 ай бұрын
Great question and one I think a lot of us ask! I think it helps to consider education as one's "natural inheritance". Just like we can understand the natural law that "water flows and fire burns", we can understand certain educational laws that work with our nature/flourishing like in nature. (Ie. A plant needs good soil, water, and sun. A child needs certain things to grow.) Education should meet those needs (the natural laws designed by God). Just like we can reasonably expect a plant to grow if we adhere to natural laws, we can reasonably expect a child to grow toward wisdom and virtue. * But * just like we adhere to the natural laws of growing things, we must pray for God to give growth beyond our responsibility. I think that's where education meets prayer/salvific work. The "gospel seed" must come from God, but the soil into which it drops is prepared by "education" in all life. Education focuses on preparing good soil to enlarge the soul to receive the gospel.
@preciousbees5721
@preciousbees5721 9 ай бұрын
@@thecommonplacehomeschool right, definitely a prep and a guide, not the source. Amen!
@rachelclarkephoto
@rachelclarkephoto Жыл бұрын
I could NOT agree and love this more. Thank you for sharing so many wonderful points on this subject. A little off topic but -- would you mind sharing your new camera details? do you love it? I'm switching to a flip phone next month and will sell my medium format film camera to buy something small to carry around to document, as I would a phone. I just don't know what to choose! ...trusting your recommendation as a fellow photographer. :)
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
Of course! It's actually my photography camera: Sony A7Riv! I was using a Sony vlogger camera before since it did some of the video legwork for me. (Video is a different ball game than photo, you know?) I'm actually looking into a Pentax K1000 to carry around in lieu of my smartphone camera. Do you want to go digital or have you considered a smaller film?
@rachelclarkephoto
@rachelclarkephoto Жыл бұрын
I actually do have a film point and shoot! It’s so fun and I love that medium. I’m just looking for something to use for every day video and photo digitally…do you like your blogging camera for that? Any recommendations? 🙈
@thecommonplacehomeschool
@thecommonplacehomeschool Жыл бұрын
@@rachelclarkephoto I have the Sony ZV-1 and I did like it for what it is. I'd probably be frustrated by it for actual photography!
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