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Horse pulling canons also applied by the Germans. When visiting in summer 1941. Horses can work even when oil runs out. 😅

No ‘right to repair’ legislation needed to fix these getups.

If I ever visit Russia, I'm paying this dude to come along as my guide and translator. I don't care what it would cost, it would be worth it.

The wooden wheel with narrow rim, made out with steel strap is a know how of Russian way of wagon riding in the dirt. Narrow rim cuts mud and is light so it is easy to horse to pull the carriage. Mud doesn't stick to the wheel. In the south of Ukraine all horse wagons I saw were equipped with steel wheels with rubber tires and steel suspension. And it was very rare. The worst thing was to find such a wagon as a surprise in the night on the road without lighting with no traffic lights or reflector.

In the US horses are super-expensive pets. During the Great Recession (2007-2010), the number of horses in the US fell by about 35 percent because fewer people could afford them.

There's probably a carriage or wagon maker or two in the US otherwise the Amish would lack transportation.

The better term might be blacksmith, concerning iron work for horses.

10:35 I tend to agree with that analogy about the Soviet Union. There was too much emphasis on certain "prestige" programs at the expense of more mundane, practical things. The nuclear arms race was one of the craziest wastes of money in history for both the US and USSR. The difference is that the US was a wealthier country that could absorb the cost easier than the Soviet Union.

Could say the same thing about the Nazi's in WWII. The country that made the Me262 and V2 had to use millions of horses to move it's armies across Europe. Meanwhile the US, no horses needed.

because soviet union had guaranteed employment, even for horse.

I grew up in England in the 1960s and '70s and there were still some horse drawn wagons even in the cities. My grandmother in Birmingham had her milk delivered by horse and cart. There was also a TV comedy called Steptoe & Son where they used a horse and cart. The Police also used horses (possibly they still do).

Thank you for another fascinating and informative video!

its all very romantic in hindsight but i have to remind myself people didn't have a choice and probably would have preferred to have motors given they had to work with them.

Outstanding video! As I was watching the factory films from the 80's I kept thinking that if you had shown them to me back then (you a citizen of USSR and me an American, you would be in GULAG, if lucky!) Also, horses and wagons in the villages make sense: I doubt there was any infrastructure in your grandparents; village to support a truck: gas station, spare parts or mechanic. A horse is much more practical in that situation.

That’s very interesting watching the factory made wagon wheels and parts made from thick hard wood.

This is Just Stop Oil's vision of progress...

We used those a lot for carrying potatoes back in 2006... majestic european union... it was nice experience just pay the guy with horses sone stuff and half hour latter you put those potatoes inside the subterain bunker and potatoes lasted for whole year... ❤ my grand mother and grandfather were ukranians the father was from some postsoviet country I won't mention close to ukraine border... 😅

It amazes me to this day that there were people that visited the Soviet Union in the 70's and 80's and talked about how great of a system it was. I'm not talking about laymen or tourists, I'm talking about the so called intellectuals that teach in the universities of the USA. I'm sure they weren't shown the entire picture of life of the regular people, but they were without any doubt the most useful idiots.

I wonder if there's enough material (records, maybe statistics) of sovkhoz/kolkhoz owned horses in the SU for an economist to take a look at? Maybe just for one or two oblasts (or smaller areas). Because that would be fascinating. I am _guessing_ that the horse survived as long as it did as a tool, "means of production", because a) it wasn't as tightly controlled as tractors/pickups, and b) you could grow your own. What I mean is that the bureaucracy for tractors, spare parts, fuel etc was probably horrendous. Whereas for horses it probably eased up quite a bit over the decades. So horses were useful, and also much easier to use for what ever need arose. As long as the central planners didn't force you to get rid of horses, this was one resource that could actually be used to make life better. Many comments mention the use of horses in wwii - this is not in any way remarkable. Not in the way the use of horses for practical tasks well into the 1990-ies is. One vaguely wwii-related story that sticks in my mind was told by someone born around 1930 who started work in the meat/sausage industry as a teenager just after the war. In 1946 or 1947 Finland had an absolute surplus of foals and young horses (because uncertain times, might be needed for continued war). They mostly were made into sausage, but this guy was lyrical about how delicious foal meat was, how no meat he's ever tasted since then can compare. (Because usually you never butcher young horses, not economical. But those few years you had to.)

In English one would say, horse-drawn wagon.

Using draft animals can (still) be economical is certain specific situations. I remember reading about how cost efficient it was in a couple of British cities for the breweries to use horse drawn wagons to deliver beer barrels well into the '80s. The popultion density and short hauls made financial sense. I suspect the advertising boost also helped. On related note, I clearly recall from my'60s to '70s seeing wagons and single mules at the Moody cotton warehouse in Galveston Texas many many times. It was a huge complex, right off the causeway, with dozens of warehouses holding 500lb bales, ready for shipment out of the port. Bales were tagged with owner and quality info. When a buyer needed "X" number of bales of cotton with certain qualities like particular "staple length" they sent a mule driver and wagon to the appropriate warehouse and loaded up. Placed the bale on the trolley to go to the dock. Mind you.....this was 20 miles from NASA's Johnson Space Center (mission control). Five years after Apollo 11 landed on the moon!!

When riding Rouvy video routes on my bicycle trainer, with video footage taken with GoPro cameras, I've encountered horse-drawn farm wagons in southern Poland and in Romania. (I've switched from Rouvy to a different service now, which has the disadvantage of not offering so many routes from Poland or Romania.)

5:12, A big hydraulic powered fixture for pushing the spokes and felloes together on a wheel with a design that's about 400 years old. I can understand perfectly why they stuck with wooden wagons.

Well, I'm in Canada and I farm and log with horses. If labour is cheap and available horses are less costly to use, when labour is expensive or scarce horses are more costly to use. Labour availability is what determines the viability of using horses. It is not overly complex to understand once you have experience in managing working horses.

You know Sergei after watching your channel for a while now I don’t feel so bad about my childhood in Bangladesh.

After a horse was trained it can function as essentially a work partner, one place where horses held on was in dairy delivery. The milk man got the empties put them on the wagon and got the order for the next house, the horses typically knew the route and could watch the milk man moving only when necessary. 😕 I still don’t think any lasted much longer than the early 50s.

it is good to see the old craft kept alive so that was nice and I hope it is still around. There are people who still build western wagons and carriages here in the United States because there are Reenactors and museums and people who need them. It's good to not lose these skills you never know something might happen and suddenly you need 1 million horses and wagons.

John Wayne Cheeseburger himself discusses horses and wagon. Love it

Thank you for the video. Fascinating as always Sergei. Thank you for sharing your insights. Peaceful Skies.

In America the vast majority of horse buggies/ wagons that were produced then till now are for the Amish. So it was a very Niche thing. Average Americans were not using them then they had cars or trucks and tractors. Pretty much no one was using them except the Amish except for entertainment since like the 1940s or 50s if not before in America.

Dude i lived in 90's and 00's vilige in lithuania and that was normal.

My grand farther had a car he drove his whole life and he rebuilt it many times from top to bottom. One of the things he did was build a new body for it at the coach company he worked at. The company built wooden carafes and coaches and bodies for high end cars like Rolls Royce and Bentley. Grand Pa had an old Bentley and would put a new body on the frame every 4 years. All hand made after work. The company liked for their employees to use the tools and owning nice cars to showcase the bodies they sold. Free advertising

I remember Parte I grew up in one of my great uncles. He used to mule and a wood machine that would see the ground behind the mule as he walked along behind it with a plow back in the 1980s.

Just watching a 1929s film by Ford showing a similar wooden wheel factory.

Good for RU! Horses & mules run on Grass, which is renewable; but cars on Gas, which we're running out of. There are still people here (besides the Amish) who plow and do logging w equines. Yes, a wagon or buggy w shocks was a big improvement. Simple rural life is still the best!

The US might have switched to tractors, but my great grandfather in Putnam County, Ohio used horses during and after the second world war. Some of the other farmers made fun of this, they had a Ford Tractor, but he was still using draft horses. But then the war came, and his neighbors couldn't get tires, some parts and occasionally "Tractor Gas." (Number 2 diesel fuel.) But he had the draft horses and so this wasn't a problem. It was closer to 1950 before he bought a Ford Tractor. Also my Dad took horses to Russia during the war when he was in the Merchant Marine. They took a Veterinarian for the journey.

Tractors are expensive. Much more than a car. I don't think the state could afford to give them out to everyone. The bigger farms probably got them first. Others where stuck with the hors and carts.

You could fix wagon with saw and hammer. Horses run on grass. Most economical - no fuel or spare parts needed, everything can be fixed locally. It is actually a sustainable economy.

relied on horses... in the 70s, 80s and 90s... and maybe even now in some places of ex USSR

For the farms and small hamlets, I guess it made some economic sense to use buggy's.

Out here in rural Maine its typical to see the Amish riding about in their horse drawn carriages or plowing their fields with horses. Other than that only a few farmers still utilize oxen or horses do it almost as a living museum kind of thing although my dad tried to hire one to pull wood out of his woodlot in order to limit the damage skidders cause.

Thank you for the great video about your home country, just amazing. I’m honored to know you as a fellow American and I wish we had many more like you coming here. Now this may sound unbelievably but it’s completely factual/true. My great, great grandfather was Lord Henry Brougham who was somewhat famous in the early to mid 1800’s in England. He was Lord Chancellor of the British Parliament for a while and he hated having to use the large horse drawn carriages of the time for many reasons, one was that it was difficult to turn large carriages around in tighter streets and avenues. So he went to a well known carriage maker and drew up a rough sketch of a smaller, fully enclosed, 2 horse carriage that only required 2 drivers instead of the normal 4 (the other two were footmen but they were part of the required crew for the carriage. At the time, London had a serious problem with sewer odors and during the summer months it was overwhelming. He installed a speaking tube in the cab to speak with the driver when needed so there was never a need to open the door or window to communicate. The design became wildly popular and many other wealthy people bought them for the same reasons and grandad. I’ll stop here since my family heritage is pretty extensive but my great grandfather didn’t want to be apart of the royal family life so he adopted one of our two Scottish alias last names (in our case it was Adams) and immigrated to Canada then later to the US and lived a normal life. Thanks again for your great content, always a treat!

I have an interest in the history of wind energy development and the USSR had some interesting devrlopments in this department. Before WW2, they built a crude but apparently effective utility sized turbine in Crimea. One photo of the construction had a blade being delivered on a horse drawn wagon. Also an interesting technological parallel. The Nazi's blew it up in the war but I often wondered if perhaps the footings remained.

Tractors and trucks made a big appearance in US and Canadian Agriculture in the 1920s, but that was by no means the. In the UK the switchover happened in the 1930s. In Western Europe it had to wait until the late fifties and sixties. In 1939, there were 2.5 million cars and trucks in France, or one per 16.8 people. France had an abnormally high number of cars and a very well developed automobile industry. Germany at the brink of WWII had 800,000 cars and trucks. Germany was by no means a primitive country, it was a leader in the the Second Industrial Revolution in the late 19th century, though much of its agriculture remained rather 19th century.

This was my first time learning that there was a factory producing horse wagons. I thought all horse wagons in the Eastern Bloc were made by talented local carpenters and craftsmen. In the past, for rural people, horses were family members, cars, trucks, and tractors. Of course, the speed of a horse is usually comparable to that of a bicycle or moped, and they need to be fed and cared for at all times even when not in use, but they are very versatile and don't require a lot of money. But what about vehicles? First of all, in the past cars and tractors were very expensive and required a driving license. Fuel was hard to come by in the countryside, and if it failed to operate due to a major breakdown, it was of no use. Ultimately, cars are only for passengers and are not useful for transporting cargo or farming. I like to compare a horse wagon to a semi truck. You can do anything if you add a trailer. Regardless of the boring ideological debates in the comments, the rural people of the Eastern Bloc can be seen as making the wisest choice in their situation.

En una concentración de carros (carts) antiguos en España, Europa, en Balsareny, me dijeron que se vuelven a fabricar ruedas de madera con círculos de hierro, mediante máquinas de control numérico (CNC).

Horseshoes Musta been a part of this labor intensive operation

here in Colorado and other western states we have the Amish and Mennonites and they still have some baller buggies.

wood/steel wagon type wheels have very low rolling resistance (perfect for horse and human power) Breaks my heart to see horses dragging leaky old rubber car tires because ive push started a few junk cars and it sucked lol. Ive modified my yard carts, hand truck/dollys with used wheelchair wheels and they roll soo much easier than rubber pneumatic tires... even in the sand/grass.

Its easier to measure the HP of the wagon if counting horses

Make video on Snowmobiles in the Soviet union

I thought it was the same situation with cars the priority was to impress or to intimidate the west with army and most of the resources were put in the army and to fund other overly ambitious project... I think you made a video about why it took long time to get a car in Soviet Union and although you couldn't get the answer there were some insights in that!

In communist Yugoslavia we had horse wagons with ESP (electronic stability control) & ABS breaks in 1998 USSR was very lacking 😅😂

I just watched a video about car culture you did. I hope you figured out what road head is by now lol. Did yal have billiards in the ussr? I know you had arcades but did it have pool tables in it?

It is interesting that central government actually wants so much old technology mixing with newer technologies. The newer technology is so dependent on the old. Were they afraid the new was not up to the job. I remember reading about the huge numbers of Animal veterinarians that were needed to service the horses and in a few cases oxen that were used in military services. In WW2. In American service.Not to mention the huge amounts of animal feed needed. In WW2 large numbers of mules were used in the Pacific campaigns to hall freight such as heavy guns and ammunition. I believe mules were used in Afghanistan. Especially in the early days of American involvement. We were still able to purchase the required animals. To get the job done.

Allocating capital is extremely difficult. Some may think it's as simple as spending money, but capital is always limited and the possibilities for spending it are endless. There is always somebody who can make better choices than you and who will eat your lunch. That's why CEOs get paid the big bucks in a system of private capitalism. Under state capitalism, the incentive system is way different.

We might remind ourselves that the Nazi army that invaded Russia was heavily dependent on horses despite the common vision of a mechanized army and sometimes the myth that it was totally mechanized. Horses go obsolete only when the rest of the economy is efficient enough to make them so.

You have to adjust your numbers to account for the Amish who use horse and buggy by choice

Comrade, who designed the factories?

You can't eat a tractor .

10:36 is that Mr Clean in witness protection, as a Soviet farmer?

russia had some nice heavy draft breeds

I bet eBay sellers in the former USSR could make even more from selling a handcrafted wagon wheel for decor than from selling a Dendy. Shipping might be expensive, though.

During China's big industrialization of the 90's and early 00's, they still used Steam Trains!

Surely not a bad way to live.

I mean, in the part of Texas, I grew up in

I think a good comparison would be the technological & industrial progress Russia made during the Soviet times and the progress it has made in the past 30 years.

After the coming nuclear WW3, we will all be riding mules and donkey carts! 😂

The Soviet union had no toilet paper until 1965.

Could one own the wagons, or did you borrow a horse/wagon combo?

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What county didn't use horses

Maybe tradition idk

A cartoonist from New Mexico rolled his first reefer from dried horse dung.

pokazucha or "Potemkin village" syndrome they spend 30 billion dollars to built Tupolev Tu-144 soviet Concorde analog, blue prints been stolen by Stasi German secret police industrial espionage. Agriculture was always neglected because it ha no military importance. muscles flexing or flashy importance to show to the west. This "Potemkin village" syndrome happens in west too, you cannot ignore, thousands homeless sleep on streets but looks of historical buildings refurbished to pristine condition or skyscrapers winds cleaned every day, just to show technological and cultural superiority.

Glory to Ukraine!🇺🇦👍

Not a great workplace for a cigarette smoker.