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@ohwhatever362 Жыл бұрын
The mountain is accessible on foot, not just by boat, at least it's possible.
@aidancollins1591 Жыл бұрын
How lovely, a researcher gives you their maps and photos for free, and then you charge for them. Not turning a profit yet I suppose?
@jamesjonnes Жыл бұрын
I want to enter women's sports. Equality!
@HenryLeslieGraham Жыл бұрын
mount athos doesnt translate to holy mountain. Athos was one of the Giants in greek mythology. the mountain/peninsula is named after this figure. the etymology of Athos is unknown. ***some languages call mount athos "holy mountain" instead, rather than referring to it by its Greek name.
@gpatoy5976 Жыл бұрын
@@HenryLeslieGraham here in Greece we call this place Αγίο Όρος = Holy Moyntain , mount Athos is the name of the mountain.
@mappingshaman5280 Жыл бұрын
Until 2000 they also banned anyone from catalonia because a mercenary company of catalans raided them in the 14th century.
@eustab.anas-mann9510 Жыл бұрын
The ban on men from Catalan origin lasted until 2005 when the Catalan government paid 250000 euros in reparations to the monastic community.
@J.o.s.h.u.a. Жыл бұрын
@@eustab.anas-mann9510Why would Catalonia waste so much money like that? Is there a consistent Catalan community of Orthodox believers I wasn't aware of?
@auto952 Жыл бұрын
@J.o.s.h.u.a. Because the Catalan Company devastated Mount Athos in the 14th century, and looted the monasteries.
@jackwalters5506 Жыл бұрын
@@J.o.s.h.u.a.to the government of a wealthy region 250,000 Euros isn't even pocket change
@manana1444 Жыл бұрын
Understandable.
@Sheepythemanz20218 ай бұрын
Protect the holy mountain!! ☦🇬🇷
@wendyleonenko896210 ай бұрын
As a woman, I support the monks right to keep Mount Athos as male only. As an Orthodox Christian, I appreciate that there are places like Mount Athos where prayer is kept pure.
@papapeethehunks11 ай бұрын
Mount Athos is not your typical Disney. Respect the tradition. Ban tourists.
@theo99523 ай бұрын
There are entrance fees* involved and the monasteries need the money, so tourists or pilgrims will not be banned, be sure about it. They also sell certain items to the tourists btw. *25 euro fee for orthodox visitors and 30 euro for the rest for a 4-day visit and accomodation in a monastry. This is all pre-arranged and paid in Thessaloniki where the visas are issued.
@stauros75133 ай бұрын
@@theo9952 Its not tourist the way you describe it. If you declare that you are a tourist who brings money but after no spiritual aspirations you won't be accepted and denied entry. The visitors are not tourists in the sense that you visit to have fun and spend your time.
@theo99523 ай бұрын
@@stauros7513 To begin with, no one has to "declare" anything. As long as one is not strongly and evidently suspected for intentions to cause trouble during his stay in Athos, he will pay the fee and get his visa. And remember that it is the Greek authorities who are in charge and are responsible for those visas. Not the monks.
@stauros75133 ай бұрын
@@theo9952 Religious Visitors may enter - no tourists, probably you don't understand the context asociated with the tourist. of course someone can lie and get his way into easy, but if the evidence is clear that someone is going on tourist vacations on mt. athos i assure you they will be denied entry
@101logic3 ай бұрын
@@theo9952 I assure you that the monasteries do not rely on money from “tourists” plus it’s not a touristic trip, that require them to book for a couple of days to stay in one of the monasteries, because their coffers are full and they are very self-reliant.
@Giannis_Sarafis Жыл бұрын
Actually, there were some occasions in which women entered Mount Athos. Some adventurous princesses with a caprice to visit this place, entered Athos. Stories say that they either get killed mysteriously afterwards or became nuns. In addition, during the Greek Rebellion of Halkidiki against the Ottomans in 1821, and after the burning of all peninsula from the Turks, many children and women entered Mount Athos. The monasteries hid them for up to ten years in order not to be killed or be sold as slaves in North Africa. Two of my ancestors found refuge there. Also during the Greek Civil War (1946-1949), a few female fighters of the so called Democratic Army came to the Monasteries.
@Taleton Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the Communist fighters wanted there? 80 km to the North where there "daddy" Tito of Yugoslavia... I should research it ... Although I am tired of Greeks killing Greeks
@glorialange6446 Жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@user-zz3tk5ym5q Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these informations!Ευχαριστώ!
@gnas18977 ай бұрын
If I'm not mistaken women also found refuge there during the Macedonian revolution of 1854.
@nemanjastikic13677 ай бұрын
Serbian Empress Jelena visited Mount Atos during the plague that hit region at the time, however during her stay there she was always carried so that her foot never touched the ground.
@DevonExplorer Жыл бұрын
As a woman I have absolutely no problem about their stance of not allowing women into their home. It could destroy their way of life and freedom to worship in their own way and who would want to take that sacredness and magic away? There's too much emphasis on access for everyone and making everything the same, imo, and we all need to know that there are amazing places that are different and kept sacred, even if it means that we can't go to visit. :)
@sebozz2046 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile there are lots of places forbidden to men and no one have an issue with that. I think it should be both way either everything is allowed to both genders or both have the right to have places just for them.
@DevonExplorer Жыл бұрын
@@sebozz2046I I agree with the latter but not the former. Everyone has, and should have, the right to be in a same sex situation for anything, whether it's a man's/woman's own club or a religious order. To deny that would be draconian. I like men and enjoy their company but there are some instances when it's more appropriate to be in a female only situation and vice versa. As I said, we shouldn't feel we have the right to be everywhere, lol.
@cabbage2794 Жыл бұрын
I hope that they would at least let scientists/researchers/historians to enter, but under very strict rules.
@jamesjonnes Жыл бұрын
@@cabbage2794 What if a man wants to enter women's sports or bathrooms just for research purposes?
@rabia-2079 Жыл бұрын
@@cabbage2794there are male scientists and researchers for that :)
@afr11235 Жыл бұрын
Private clubs are generally free to make their own rules and ban whoever they wish. My personal view of the Greek Orthodox hierarchy notwithstanding, a private monastery or nunnery should be free to ban women or men or cows or whatever suits their fancy.
@charvaka9526 Жыл бұрын
As long as they aren't receiving national funding in a secularist republic. It isn't quite right that Bush & Bush visit at taxpayer's expense.
@shingosshojiopoulos6608 Жыл бұрын
@@charvaka9526greece isn't secular though
@charvaka9526 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think so. Still, it is unfair, and, theocracies need restraints.@@shingosshojiopoulos6608
@ATHLDN Жыл бұрын
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@so_monika6743 Жыл бұрын
Priests in the powerful Greek Orthodox Church are treated as civil servants in Greece and their salaries - estimated at more than 200 million euros annually - have therefore been paid directly from the state budget. Take into account that the Greek Orthodox Church is extraordinarily wealthy.@@charvaka9526
@fimbulsummer Жыл бұрын
Leave them be. A world with no differences is a boring world. Not to mention respecting cultural heritage. It’s not like it’s an entire country or state, just one small peninsula with a historical tradition that isn’t seeking to subjugate women outside their private land. This is their home, not a tourist attraction open to the general public and we should absolutely respect their right to choose who may enter.
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
Curious... how do they procreate if there are no women>?
@joelthorstensson2772 Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01People become monks of their own volition.
@Mondy667 Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01No fucking way you are asking that
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
@@Mondy667 you think so?
@BigBadBossu Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01 You realize monks are not born into their work right? Its Christian, just like priests faith is voluntary. It has lasted because of its super high cultural significance drawing more followers in.
@Ravenelvenlady Жыл бұрын
"To impose a modern thought to an ancient entity would destroy the ancient entity." Absolutely.
@OrthoKarter Жыл бұрын
Mount athos should just be left alone. Its their religion, westoids have no right to come in and whine about it being “sexist” without knowing ANYTHING about greece and its beliefs, nor geography and religion in general
@OrthoKarter Жыл бұрын
@@gendunchoepel3480 it should be preserved, its their religion and their culture. modernity has no right to impose someone elses religion.
@SerbAtheist Жыл бұрын
@@gendunchoepel3480 Okay, harmful cultural practices should be eliminated. Who is being harmed on Mount Athos?
@SS-yj2le Жыл бұрын
Well yes. It is a different thought of what it actually was, so it naturally changes it into what it isn’t. Then again, doesn’t have to be modern. Just has to be something different.
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
@@SS-yj2le Maybe it does and maybe not.
@aprilrich807 Жыл бұрын
I believe that Mt Athos should be respected as it has been. And I’m a woman.
@JudithSanchez-ht6jn Жыл бұрын
Another woman protesting I am a woman and agree with monks . Always that is forbidden to woman is a protest and if the monks allow them to look for others places to protest. I respect the monks and agree because that is place for worship no a resort.
@mariossahamis39693 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that there are nunneries where men are being forbidden
@Pisti846 Жыл бұрын
Too many traditions have been destroyed, leave these men alone.
@ClannCholmain9 күн бұрын
@@Pisti846 😂 Yes and bring back flogging too.
@desiree2502 Жыл бұрын
I think it is very good for the nature and marinelife to be spared from tourists, there are many other nice places you can visit in Greece
@kieranadamson3224 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is an ancient holy site. The Orthodox Christian equivalent of Mecca. It deserves to be left to itself.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
@@kieranadamson3224 Mecca is holy to all three main religions. It's a site of Abraham. Muslims would let Christians and Jews go there before men would allow women onto Athos, that is only a "tradition", as the Ecumenical Patriarchate itself has admitted. Not part of the religion. Many other traditions have disappeared, but not the ban against women, because.. EDIT to add the irony of holding up Mecca - a place of annual pilgrimage in.. Saudi Arabia, not exactly a bastion of liberalism, as the contrast to an EU peninsula of a couple thousand men succeeding in keeping the entire region to themselves. At least Mecca is only a city lol
@kieranadamson3224 Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol okay, so a religious site has a specific group of traditions. What's wrong with that?
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
@@kieranadamson3224 please listen to yourself. You can't justify banning a group of people (insert any other group) because it's been the the tradition, enacted when women had no rights, were property ,etc. It's only continuing because it is women, who are so universally loathed or powerless apparently that these zealots can continue it. And get away with not paying taxes. How powerful they must be ..
@jamesjonnes Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol Will you allow people born as males to enter women's bathrooms?
@marcouellette4671 Жыл бұрын
Leave the peninsula alone as is.
@chevonne24 Жыл бұрын
I hope everyone leaves these monks and their way of life alone. We need to understand that we don't need to make all spaces accessible to everyone and that is not necessarily discrimination
@HawkThunder907 Жыл бұрын
My uncle was a monck on Hilandar for 20 years, I remember when I slept there with my father when we visited the monastery, I was about 6 years old. Its truly a beautiful place. I never thought it would be mentioned somewhere again. Dont try to force these people to do what you want, it's obviously not wanted.
@mariusmuresan8248 Жыл бұрын
The question is, why would a woman want to go to Mount Athos? The ones who are Orthodox (right believers) surely do not want the rule to change, while the others have no business there, except to create irritation.
@PELLIOTIS Жыл бұрын
and its not like Mount Athos is the only place with monasteries in the Ortodox world. The entire world is filled with them and anybody can visit. Just outside of my village there is a female monastery and has every kind of visitor every day. Its just that Mount Athos is something more than that and it should be preserved.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
It's mostly the message it sends about women, in 202x. That they can still be banned, in the EU, with all its non-discrimination laws, and also receive EU money. Women are considered unclean and sinful by nature, a temptation. It's not in the religion. It's only a thousand year old tradition. Well slavery was a tradition too at one time..
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
The EU scammers never gave any money to that and even if they did nobody cares about their almost zero contribution. If wimmen don't like it they can move elsewhere or find another religion. Simple as that. But no, they prefer breaking balls right and left about something they don't even really care about.
@mariusmuresan8248 Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol It's mostly this obsession with destroying everything traditional or rooted in faith, cutting down religion, controlling it, and generally claiming that your feminist ideology knows better in every respect. It's ruining the West; now you're out for more blood, wanting to ruin the East as well.
@vasiliyt860010 ай бұрын
@@taniakol It's mostly to keep bitter militant middle-aged feminists like you, out of Agion Oros.
@sa.377 Жыл бұрын
*In Northern Greece, there is a small island that belongs to Mt. Athos which is also exclusive to monks and monasteries. This island is called Kyra Panagia and is found about 50 km to the south of the Athos peninsula.
@klauspendl6950 Жыл бұрын
And that island and monastery admits also female visitors.
@maxgronros6728 Жыл бұрын
Lets not impose our values onto people who dont wish to, we dont need to be able to go everywhere, let them live like they want to
@OrthoKarter Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The people in the comments who cope over this mountain and even go as far as to say it should be destroyed are definitely greasy redditors. Mt athos is based
@LondonPower Жыл бұрын
You cant impose nothing to mountain Athos is the soul of Greece and Romania the byzantine state
@constantinopleisGreek Жыл бұрын
Ζήτω η Ελλάς Ζήτω η Ρωμανία Ζήτω η Ορθοδοξία
@PurpleTurtle7288 Жыл бұрын
Access to some random mountain is not a big deal, and because it is private, owners have the right to decide who to invite onto their land anyway. But this argument of "we should not impose our values onto other people" is not a good argument to justify anything. People have used it to justify honor killings and prevent girls them from leaving a house without an escort or getting an education. When people's "values" infringe upon human rights, it is not right, and women and men have inalienable equal rights. It's not surprising that some people get triggered when some suggest that it is good that the mountain is off-limits to girls and this is the only reason offered
@OrthoKarter Жыл бұрын
@@PurpleTurtle7288 this isn’t imposing rights tho? they dont allow women because its only for The Most Holy Woman, Theotokos. It isnt sexist at all. cope
@BenStimpsonAuthor Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, why is an American so concerned that this tiny peninsula in Greece doesn't allow women visitors? In what way does this impact her life? I find it more than imperialistic to assume that the whole world needs to conform to American cultural standards... and I'd even go as far as to say this whole video was just plain disrespectful. even demanding a community to explain themselves is just ridiculous
@barkydogable Жыл бұрын
The attitude the person expresses isn't limited to America. Imperialist ideas come from many nations.
@huangec Жыл бұрын
Because she's American.
@Not-Ap Жыл бұрын
@@barkydogableWell regardless it's really no one else's business but the monks. It's millenia old religious community that seculed for spiritual reasons.
@bazilbednar2081 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what you are saying except for the video being disrespectful. It's an informative documentary.
@BenStimpsonAuthor Жыл бұрын
the disrespect comes with the host and the journalist he's speaking to offering opinions on the appropriateness of this places' existence. the journalist offering personal opinion on the rules of this place she's obviously never been to is where the disrespect lies. @@bazilbednar2081
@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos Жыл бұрын
It surprises me that a woman from the other side of the world finds oppression in the fact she can't visit a place she previously didn't even know existed. I bet if there wasn't a law forbidding women, most of these people messing with mount Athos today wouldn't even bother mention it. Friends of Mount Athos respect Mount Athos, if you have no respect you're not a friend 👎
@user-gf2wm9rd3s Жыл бұрын
Thats because this is still a mysoginistoc attitude. Im Orthodox Christian and I cant stand these POS.
@schalitz1 Жыл бұрын
Typical woman, what do you expect. Always looking for a way to be the victim. Mt.Athos is probably the most peaceful place on Earth.
@jcbear Жыл бұрын
Guaranteed if the situation was reversed and this autonimous region had an Abbess and sisters and novices there would be HE LL a screaming and demands to keep any males out from entering their space.
@bryanalexander2508 Жыл бұрын
@@user-gf2wm9rd3sThe fact that you call yourself orthodox, yet you go against ecumenical decree means you’re about as orthodox as I am a Bob Marley
@000Dragon50000 Жыл бұрын
It already has a limitation of only 10 tourists/researchers/etc and howevermany orthodox pilgrims though, and the former is too small to have a meaningful impact and the latter would respect the supposed importance of the monks' duties, soo... what the fuck does the gender of those visitors matter? And what about visitors who later figure out they're trans or something? It's just a flawed way of interacting with the world.
@olbiomoiros Жыл бұрын
Hagion Oros translates to holy mountain. Athos is the name the mountain has had since antiquity, named after the mythological giant Athos who accidentally created the peninsula by throwing a rock.
@olbiomoiros Жыл бұрын
The reason why no female, human or not can be on the peninsula, is because the only woman in mount Athos is the Virgin Mary.
@olbiomoiros Жыл бұрын
Fyi, there are monasteries where men aren’t allowed either. that’s how it works. There’s male only and female only monasteries.
@PELLIOTIS Жыл бұрын
@@olbiomoiros They dont even allow female saints to adorn the monasteries, with the exception of Mary the Egyptian (for very specific reasons)
@archeewaters Жыл бұрын
it's ok. we don't need to go to a place that does not accept female visitors. there are specific individuals i do not invite into my own home. why should it matter? all is well.
@dzxn3728 Жыл бұрын
Intolerance paradox. Tolerating Intolerance leads to tolerating patriarchal fascism. Obviously.
@hopeintruth5119 Жыл бұрын
@@dzxn3728exactly peopel genuinely don't understand that. I use this analogy. If we live in a society where one group is pacifist and another is violent. Would it be ok for the pacifist to defend against the violent people woth violence. The answer would be yes to protect the peace and the safety of others. SAme goes for this. Just because we are tolerant doesn't mean we will protect and allow intolerance to fester because it would destroy what we already fought for or trying to obtain.
@luvidx9919 Жыл бұрын
If you want to fight intolerance how about you talk about places like saudi arabia or Pakistan and etc which btw those are whole ass countries and then talk about a small peninsula where about 1000 monks live
@dzxn3728 Жыл бұрын
@@luvidx9919 Sophia the bot doesn't have to cover & they gave her citizenship. Elon musk owes them 13b for Twitter. Hate that. That is the bigger fish. But I don't participate in whataboutism. All misogyny must be intolerable.
@bitter_truth8646 Жыл бұрын
@@dzxn3728I really can't understand the behavior of some men or even feminists who comment here. If you don't like a place, then don't have to visit it. However, you come here to write bitter comments. Just skip the video people. They don't bother you don't bother them. They have their life, they have their faith, they deal with what they want to deal with, they devote themselves to what they believe in. Period! And finally, if you don't like these kinds of places, just visit other places, there are hundreds of thousands of other places on this planet. If you want to be respected respect others!
@xenialafleur Жыл бұрын
If you want to start imposing modern Western views on places, there are so many places you could start with where women actually live.
@robandrews4815 Жыл бұрын
Right! I saw a Frontline documentary on Iran. A place where women are literally being killed by the police,for fighting for freedom.
@icedriver2207 Жыл бұрын
I agree can you imagine if people started saying trans-women should be allowed to become Nuns.
@LudwigVaanArthans Жыл бұрын
@@icedriver2207or women to teach in madrassas in the Muslim world
@PurpleTurtle7288 Жыл бұрын
Greece is part of the Western World -_- What^
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
@@PurpleTurtle7288 It is? Since when? lol
@yamataichul Жыл бұрын
As a romanian woman and kind of familiar with orthodox christianity, let me tell you, Mount Athos isn't hiding anything incredibly special, there are special events and prayers there but most male visitors seem to not care for it. The place looks like any monastaries, some unique historical features but that's mostly it. Every single holy place has it's rules, despite the common faith.
@PASOKGLOBAL Жыл бұрын
wdym its nothing special... As a Greek i can confirm to you that going there is like traveling back to byzantine times, the architecture, landscape, way of life and overall atmosphere is profound and absolutely worth it.
@varsoo1 Жыл бұрын
It's literally traveling back in time 500 years though. No exaggeration. It's like going to Cuba is a time warp back to 1955. Every car building etc. is from that era (for better or worse, we all know it's down to their poverty, but still) That comment can only be made by someone who has zero value for history
@yamataichul Жыл бұрын
@@varsoo1 my grandparents come from a village still using manual labor tools for land and animals to this day. The tractor is used on a minimum if not at all. There are also still remote monastaries where they did not bother with modernity and pretty much limit themselves to owning a van or the priest owning a car. Poverty is still visible from a low to no income family, monastaries may not be poor but sure are disciplinary to some extend. You have no idea what you're talking about and how I value things.
@KingMinosxxvi Жыл бұрын
accept that most monastaries aren't independant states are they..also not having been there how would you know
@Gyneco-Phobia Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian *Woman* - Alright, thank you for your input. But it's kind of oxymoron, isn't it?
@carloslx Жыл бұрын
Only in this stupid day and age would anyone make their mission in life to destroy everything which is sacred, traditional and respected. It's not about a woman feeling oppressed. She just wants to be the first to take selfies there for her insta channel. It's that sad.
@mathiask.5474 Жыл бұрын
Exactly ! And people don't understand why women are banned, the also don't even wanna inform themselves. Sacred things must be preserved and my dear, you are totally right there
@tbnrcreator.official4 ай бұрын
@@mathiask.5474 As tradition goes, the mother of God (the blessed Theotokos) had came across the island and made it her own. As honor and reverence to her, she was the only lady to be on the island. That is why women are banned on the island. It's not sexist, its not meant to put women down, it is simply out of respect for the mother of God.
@stephaniegonsalves2810 Жыл бұрын
This video is fascinating. I never heard of such a place. Absolutely stunning ❤
@Not-Ap Жыл бұрын
Why does this matter? It's a religious community segregated for religious reasons. No different then say a holy island where only nuns are allowed or something. Places like this do exist and I really don't see why it's breaking news.
@robertlynch140411 ай бұрын
If we could just have women-free gyms, that would be heaven.
@ifluvinguiswrong11 ай бұрын
@robertlynch1404 yes, easier access for you to look at other men.
@robertlynch140411 ай бұрын
Not really, I keep my eyes to myself in the gym, but I don't like all the women looking for d or at least dressed as if they are looking for d.@@ifluvinguiswrong
@benkai3434348 ай бұрын
@@ifluvinguiswrong we understand that you're gay because of your obsession with talking about gay people, but there's no need to project your own degeneracy onto people who aren't you.
@aarondanan94866 ай бұрын
+1 I stand for that
@Fairwinkron5 ай бұрын
I stand for that and avoid women.
@kimchiwasabee Жыл бұрын
"This mountain is insane." Mmmh. Sure,pumpkin. Sure.
@carlose4314 Жыл бұрын
There was an Empress (Helena I think) who was allowed on the mountain, however, she was carried on a litter or hand carriage so that she doesn't touch the ground.
@mariossahamis39693 ай бұрын
No it was a russian princess.. Holly Virgin Mary told her to stop near the beach never allowing her to enter
@stefanmandic3447Ай бұрын
@@mariossahamis3969 maybe that too. But the guy above is also correct. Empress Helena of Serbia was im fact carried on mt. Athos
@geoffkkk200911 ай бұрын
Everyone needs a safe space and so do these men seeking spiritual enlightenment free from the distractions of the opposite sex. If it upsets you to think that this is wrong, then just don't think about it.
@Silkypaste11 ай бұрын
I question the vow of chastity that the monks on Mt Athos have taken. If there is no female around, how can you test your vow and consciously battle with so-called ‘temptation’? Other monasteries have female visitors. They test their vow of chastity regularly whereas the cowards on Mt Athos don’t have to. Seems to be quite an empty vow of chastity IMHO. Doesn’t seem fair compared to other religious orders where people who have taken a vow of chastity are tested through contact with the opposite sex.
@tatarofromfyromistan501011 ай бұрын
@@Silkypaste That's their problem. Everyone has their own vows to attend to.
@Silkypaste11 ай бұрын
@@tatarofromfyromistan5010 That’s just it, the chastity vow isn’t a problem and it should be. A religious vow is supposed to be hard to keep because it tests your faith.
@tatarofromfyromistan501011 ай бұрын
@@Silkypaste No vow is the same as others though and nobody forces anyone to live the life of St. Anthony.
@kaxerrr9 ай бұрын
@@Silkypaste It's just one of the vows, and really just a preventative rule
@giganigga302510 ай бұрын
Everyone who is talking about this being a "gay paradise" whether seriously or for comedic purposes should be ashamed of themselves
@shanicestella2226 Жыл бұрын
Just like Buddhist Monastery , So it isn't Surprising
@Ptolemy336VV Жыл бұрын
Yes, but Athos is the only Monastic state in the world
@LibrarianSankore6 ай бұрын
@@Ptolemy336VV Eh, but it isn't the only large "no women zone" in the world. Japan has a Mountain and an Island separate with that.
@Ptolemy336VV6 ай бұрын
@@LibrarianSankore this is the only monastic state in the world. It has nothing to do with that its an all male society or all female society. You literally need permission, and to go through a border in a 1 way in and out into Athos. Which it s even militarily guarded. Its the only place in the world that has Byzantine times.
@mariossahamis39693 ай бұрын
@@Ptolemy336VV You forgot the Tibet :P
@Ptolemy336VV3 ай бұрын
@@mariossahamis3969 no. Tibet is not a monastic state. And also not independent. Athos is. And hence Athos is the only monastic state in the world. You literally need permission to get there. And there is only 1 way in. Through a pass, protected by military, by boat
@JustMeowMeow Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is so interesting.. i never knew! Thank you for this informative video it's so beautifully made
@ChrisPbiker Жыл бұрын
According to Mz Bimbo, a geographic feature is suffering from a "serious mental condition"? Some people should be disallowed access to recording devices!
@6B8RX Жыл бұрын
No women? That's even better than the Garden of Eden!
@RomeroRomeral3 ай бұрын
This makes you sound gay.
@dkaloger5720 Жыл бұрын
It is really like a big monastery, the experience is probably like visiting any other well managed monastery .Having visited a monastery myself its remarkably easy and a worthwhile (even if you are not religious, like me) ,you can just find one on google maps and go hang out there for a few hours . The monks are super friendly and welcoming, as long as you are respectful .
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
Curious... do you know how they maintain their number if women are not allowed ?
@PELLIOTIS Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01 seeing the comment elsewhere it is ether heavy bad trolling or just pure ignorance. The monasteries accept any man that wants to be a monk (even though it is not that simple to join and there is an entire process, especially in Mount Athos). From age to age monasteries may suffer from low population and endagerment of closing but they usually recover and may even surprass older population numbers. Men just join in, you leave your past life and join a new one in the monastery, no matter the backround. Usually the monastery has requirment of 18 years of age to keep the schemes but there are cases of young kids joining in on their own volition. Some saints of the last century were such kids that answered the call in young age and others that joined older always admitted that wanted to join since they were small kids.
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
@@PELLIOTIS Yes, I posted this similar question in many(?) other comments. But it is neither trolling nor "ignorance" , o most holy and wise One [sarcasm]. It is to increase my chances of actually getting a reply because I genuinely did not know. Thank you for your reply O Great and Divinely inspired Pelliotis. It is an honor to have been spoken to by such a man who knows everything.
@PELLIOTIS Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01 i am sorry if i gave such impression but seeing the same question in every comment is annoying. I never claimed i know better and there is no reason for said sarcasm. If you really wanted to know i apologize
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
@@PELLIOTIS You should have also noticed I thank every one who gave answers so there was no need to be upset because that shows I was not trolling. Good day.
@theconqueringram5295 Жыл бұрын
Mount Athos is so interesting and unique. Truly a time capsule that preserves a long lost world, I would be honored if I had the chance to visit it one day. I just regret that the area bans women, even Vatican City State has a few female residents (mostly wives and daughters of Swiss Guards). Still, this place is very blessed to be preserved the way it was. Safe from the destruction of human industry, it's beautiful and it's heritage is significant.
@benquintero8554 Жыл бұрын
mt athos is a place of monasticism unlike the Vatican
@Ptolemy336VV Жыл бұрын
Athos is the only monastic state in the world
@niarlatotepbasset Жыл бұрын
You compared that Satanic slumber with Mount Athos 😒.
@harrietharlow9929Ай бұрын
@@niarlatotepbasset There really is no Western equivalent that I know of. I agree, the Vatican is a bad analogy.
@bitter_truth8646 Жыл бұрын
I really can't understand the behavior of some men or even feminists who comment here. If you don't like a place, then don't have to visit it. However, you come here to write bitter comments. Just skip the video people. They don't bother you don't bother them. They have their life, they have their faith, they deal with what they want to deal with, they devote themselves to what they believe in. Period! And finally, if you don't like these kinds of places, just visit other places, there are hundreds of thousands of other places on this planet. If you want to be respected respect others!
@Λυκάων Жыл бұрын
Westerners (liberals to be specific) should keep out from our internal affairs and respect our faith. Not everything is for sale
@philippal86662 ай бұрын
I’m a liberal. And I believe it should be left alone. Because I don’t want everyone in my house. Besides, they are not discriminating against women, they are stating that they are average humans with weaknesses who can concentrate on their prayer and work without the temptation of women. Basic farming and prayer, which we can all do. That is not discriminatory. Now powerful governments and companies made up of old white men. Discrimination.
@PentaRaus17 күн бұрын
@@philippal8666 Western women have grown too comfortable deriding their own men and ancestors.
@litsakoutoula3071 Жыл бұрын
As a greek woman I never cared about that. I would never want to visit a place I'm not wanted😊
@chef7658 Жыл бұрын
I bet gay sex happens on that place.
@shingosshojiopoulos6608 Жыл бұрын
@@chef7658no
@bryanalexander2508 Жыл бұрын
@@chef7658Just because your dad picked up that habit a while back doesn’t mean that every man with a beard likes to suck on a sausage.
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
If only those other b1tc@es felt that way...
@irenesupica5571 Жыл бұрын
I am thankful for the many monasteries I can visit. St. John's Monastery in Goldendale, Washington (USA) is a wonderful place, and the sisters are very welcoming.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Жыл бұрын
Mount Athos is a community of Orthodox Monasteries. Theologically, there can be no contact between Monks and Nuns in daily living.
@ajrobbins368 Жыл бұрын
I prefer a world were a tiny peninsula full of ancient monasteries is unique. I would feel the same if men were banned instead. Unique (not cruel) places teach us things about ourselves and about history.
@achurst1070 Жыл бұрын
On rare and very clear days Mount Athos appears floating over the sea as I have coffee on my terrace in front of my house on one of the islands of the Sporades. It is stunning and magical in ghostly blues, pale purples or reflecting yellow orange light. I hope to visit someday.
@Silkypaste11 ай бұрын
You can ‘hope to visit someday’, but I cannot, just because of my sex. That’s unfair.
@achurst107011 ай бұрын
@@Silkypaste Maybe so, but many people (myself included) cannot go to Mecca just because of their religion or lack of religion and there are some places that restrict men. I suppose the world is unfair. If it was up to me, I'd let women travel to Athos at the same small rates as others who are not monks but it isn't. It's the choice of the people of the peninsula who all happen to be male monks.
@tatarofromfyromistan501011 ай бұрын
@@Silkypaste The world is unfair. Get over it.
@zarekbeck33585 ай бұрын
@@Silkypaste there are literally millions of other places you can go to that are far more beautiful, why do you care so much about a little piece of land?
@someinteresting Жыл бұрын
Mount Athos doesn't mean Holly Mountain, Hagion Oros does.
@pineapplephill7934 Жыл бұрын
In greek it hagion oros
@someinteresting Жыл бұрын
@@pineapplephill7934 That's exactly what I said.
@g3org3yo7 Жыл бұрын
the "h" is silent. Agion Oros is how you read it, just like Hagia Sofia , you read it as Agia Sofia. Thats a little tip for the people reading it wrong out there.
@someinteresting Жыл бұрын
@@g3org3yo7 Yes, in Modern Greek the spiritus asper has disappeared. Anyway, my comment was about that the speaker said that Mount Athos means Holly Mountain.
@dannym.756311 ай бұрын
Mount Athos is private property. The owners have the right to invite anyone they choose there. And the owners of Mount Athos have the right to deny anyone.
@DrTheRich9 ай бұрын
It's weird this obsession some people have with needing to be at places they can't. Like there is a women suing the mountain for human and women's rights. Why does she want to be there so badly? It just seems to be out of spite, or jealousy or something. No women is oppressed there, because there are no women there to oppress. So who's human rights are violated.
@hopefulbloom Жыл бұрын
This is such a cool topic to cover, I am so interested in what y'all are going to do in the future.
@28KasterArt Жыл бұрын
Last vestiges of things and ideas thought to be long gone are always interesting to me. Mount Athos as the last tiny vestige of Byzantine Empire is a notable example.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
Agree, very interesting. Would love to go there. The peninsula's the same size as Philadelphia, Grenada or Malta (336 square km/130 sq miles ) so hardly tiny.
@28KasterArt Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol The Byzantine Empire at it's greatest extent was estimated to have been 1.5 million sq miles/ 3,400,000 square km (5 Million square km if you include vassal states)* , which is over 10,000 times the area of Mount Athos State today.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
@@28KasterArt You're comparing a peninsula to an empire. Byzantium was a city of six square kilometers or 2.3 square miles and I'm sure managed to hold quite a bit. Mt Athos can - and does, with 20 monasteries and more - have plenty of artifacts and treasures to enthrall visitors (I mean pilgrims).
@28KasterArt Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol Mount Athos is a time capsule of *Byzantine* traditions and religion.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
@@28KasterArt Byzantine. Byzantium was the city. Which named the Byzantine Empire but whatever, okay, am sure it is a nice place.
@Danedesta Жыл бұрын
As an Orthodox Christian, I'll say that this place is one of the holiest places in Orthodox Christianity. It needs to be spared from hordes of tourists, so leave them be. There is nothing for tourists to see there
@thisismylifeingreece2 ай бұрын
The lady in the video giving an argument about "biologist, doing field work".... well.... there are many male biologists, and I dare to believe that there are many other places in the world where female biologists could do field work.
@user-or8zy9iy5t Жыл бұрын
God is Great ☝🏻
@DavidKerley Жыл бұрын
People who want to allow women think a law change would do no harm. It's one huge monastery. Nuns don't allow men; monasteries don't allow women. Let the law stand or let idle curiosity destroy a huge part of history.
@TheSpecialJ11 Жыл бұрын
Thank god. Somewhere I can go without Oprah Winfrey on a waiting room TV.
@adrastoso9727 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see places like this being able to survive in the 21st century that clashes with modern society values. This is a monetary just like those in the mountains of China and India, a mystery that few are allowed to travel to.
@serious_nigga Жыл бұрын
Ok, let me get this, in a nunnery men aren't allowed then in a monastery it's a debate to remove a ban because it's bigger than most monasteries?
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
No problem if it was just the monasteries. They're banned from the entire peninsula or face jail. And they're paying for it. It's not private land.
@kristaps5296 Жыл бұрын
@@taniakolbased
@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol it is private land.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
@@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo it's a semi autonomous region that accepts European Union taxpayer money. How is that? You see the hypocrisy of accepting my money without my consent and i can't even set foot on the shoreline
@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol cry harder and deal with it. It is what it is. You are not welcome.
@Petepapas2 ай бұрын
There should be no debate on the topic of women being banned. If you don't like it go do something different and productive with yourself. Its real simple.
@Gibbstronic Жыл бұрын
Just leave the monks alone.
@rizaki6362 Жыл бұрын
it is not just women. The last years in order to go there and even stay a few days you have to have a invitation from someone there in order to visit. i know that cause my dad went there for a week invited by his cousin. People there can contact with family member ONLY by letter and is rumored that this letter is opened before is received by peope there.The can contact by women his cousin is speaking to his sister via letter. But i believe they do not allowed to send many cause for exaple my dad was senting one and received back reply letter for him after a month or more.
@95Gabe Жыл бұрын
Officially the most peaceful place on earth that isn't covered by ice and snow.
@Ptolemy336VV Жыл бұрын
It is though in winter. The mountains rises 2034 meters straight out of the sea, which makes it a Ultra peak mountain and also why it has such spectacular mountain scenery meeting spectacular sea scenery. But in winter the mountain is often snow covered
@gnas1897 Жыл бұрын
You're underestimating how cold Northern Greece and especially the mountains are during winter 😂
@el-jp3xp Жыл бұрын
The last piece of Byzantium,protect it.
@andreaslindenau1190 Жыл бұрын
Even female animals like sheep ,cows and ever other female animals are strictly forbidden. But my favourite monastere is "Meteora" ,one or two are in use and they were shown in an older "James-Bond-Film".
@harrietharlow9929Ай бұрын
Oh, yes, the ones that are on rock pillars. Ver interesting.
@davesprivatelounge Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. You might find interest in ancient rock cut temples that have survived colonization in India.
@henryscarhead6119 Жыл бұрын
People now a days "wants", "you should do what ever we want". imagine if it was home?
@agitatedzone Жыл бұрын
"if women were permitted ... it would no longer be a place of silence" Lol
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
Can you blame them? lol
@harrietharlow9929Ай бұрын
@@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Trust me, women's monasteries don't want men either. They're imposed on them via the clergy. But that is a whole other subject.
@tatarofromfyromistan5010Ай бұрын
@@harrietharlow9929 Of course but it works for the same reason.
@juliamcconoughey2672 Жыл бұрын
OK I get not letting women on the island but what is up with no female animals?? Hmmmmm....
@williamwebb7917 Жыл бұрын
Yea, it’s overboard.
@st.kazuha77557 ай бұрын
Not all kind of animal just livestock kind female animal or generaly eatable animal, the monks dont eat meat
@Incidental104 Жыл бұрын
If they consider the entire area their private property, then it's their prerogative to decide who can enter and who cannot. Not every situation revolves around equality concerns. It's a relatively small rocky area that isn't a major attraction for most people. Greece is a stunning country, and right near that mountain, there are two other similar mountains that extend into the sea. If you're genuinely interested in seeing something similar, you could visit those places. Most importantly no women or girls live there so women's rights aren't an issue on that island. However, it feels like many individuals are drawn to this location purely to spark controversy and advocate for rights that aren't directly related to this small piece of land. The monks who reside there likely don't prioritize accommodating women biologists because that specific location might not be suitable for biology studies. If that's your focus, there's another mountain just 20 kilometers away that could better serve that purpose. It's important to recognize that not every battle needs to be fought by everyone. Sometimes, it's better to let these individuals live peacefully on their mountain without unnecessary conflict.
@johncharleson8733 Жыл бұрын
The 'woke' crowd won't be happy until they piss up everything in creation---devils.
@Silvina465 ай бұрын
We do have to RESPECT traditions!
@sebozz2046 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile no one is shoked that in times of war like Ukraine right now men are not allowed to leave the country, even forced into the frontline. What about "liberty of movement" there?
@LondonPower Жыл бұрын
Also, in the place of the great monasteries, there were ancient Greek cities which at some point were evacuated by imperial decree in the 9th century. This was done by Nikephoros Phokas after the reconquest of Crete in 961 from the Saracen Arabs The roads between these ancient cities still exist today as paths that pilgrims walked to get from one monastery to another. The trip to Mount Athos is like returning to 10th century Byzantium
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
Curious... how are the monks able to maintain their population if there are no women>?
@kostam.1113 Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01There are always monks arriving Back when i visited in 2009 i stayed for 2 days at a house of a German Orthodox monk
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
@@kostam.1113 Thank you! I was really curious about it so I asked. I presume you meant monks from outside the region? Regards,
@kostam.1113 Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01 Monks in Athos are primarily from Greece I would say something like 50% although i could be wrong As for the rest 50% it's real "rainbow" of nationalities primarily from European Orthodox countries and some from even further like German, American, Bristish... Monks
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
@@kostam.1113 Interesting. I wonder how they are screened to ensure they really commit to their vows and not go out when the "itch" becomes too much to bear. Again, thank you.
@Kolious_Thrace Жыл бұрын
The “avaton” of the Holy Mountain has nothing to do with sexism or hate against women. Women have the whole world to travel if they want. Why it’s mandatory to visit a small place full of churches? If you want to attend a monastery and become an nun there are countless women monasteries in the mainland. Our monasteries in Orthodoxy are either male or female. Women can become nuns in every female monastery and they can visit and pray in any male monastery. The avaton has nothing to do with what some people claim. Monks are not tempted by the women etc. This is purely the ancient laws and traditions from Byzantium. The tradition says that at the Byzantine Era, the daughter of Emperor Theodosius the Great, Princess Plakidía visited the Holy Mountain. She was in a trip and she asked to visit the Vatopèdi monastery that is was built by her father, Emperor Theososius. The monks couldn’t deny her wish even though they knew that women weren’t allowed by the wish of Theotokos Maria herself. Princess Plakidía visited the monastery of Varopèdi and she liked the monastery. But she entered the main church she saw an icon of Theotokos Maria to be like she was alive in front of her. Princess Plakidía fell to her knees and before she could say a word she saw the face of Theotokos to become alive in an iconography on the wall in front of her. Theotokos spoke to her in a stern voice through her icon saying: “Princess what are you doing here? Don’t you know that I am the only Queen, the only women in this place? Turn around and leave! No other women should be allowed here even again!” Plakidía turned away and run in shock. She immediately left from Mt. Athos and later tell everyone about they miracle she experienced. Her father, Emperor Theodosius the Great ordered that mo woman should be allowed in Athos ever again on commands of Theotokos Maria! Also, from that day a candle burns in front of that icon that was named Αντιφωνήτρια / antifonítria which means “she who spoke”. Every day they add olive oil to the candle that it had never went out!
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
Nice story but not an excuse in 2023. It has everything to do with misogyny and women being considered unclean, temptations to the monks, less-than. Otherwise the ban - on the peninsula if not at the monasteries - would be lifted. It's precisely the message it sends to men and to women, which is men can go to this "spiritual" place - and women cannot. They do not actually have equal rights. In the EU. Which gives them money.
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol Bullcrap, the scammers at the EU don't give a thing and even if they did nobody needs them.
@gnas1897 Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol btw there's female monasteries that men can't enter either. Is that also sexism?
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
@@gnas1897 "By the way"? Priests do the liturgy at convents but in any case I'm not even talking about the 20 monasteries. I'm talking about not being allowed to set foot on the 130 square mile peninsula. 500 meters away or go to jail. How much more blatant does it have to be for you to acknowledge it? Most men do "btw". They know exactly what it is.
@jay-by1se Жыл бұрын
Imagine how peaceful it is there.
@theidajawho Жыл бұрын
Can men go to Nunneries and do reasearch, NO. So respect their rights too, just because they are men they still have rights.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
It's a whole peninsula. They can stay in their 20 monasteries - paid for by the good women of the EU - if they hate women so much. There is NO reason women biologists, historians, nuns.. should be banned from stepping foot on any part of 130 square miles. It's barbarian in 2023 (or any other time). But here we are.
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
@@taniakol No skank from the EU ever paid for that. There is PLENTY of reason to ban anyone they don't like for whatever reason they damn choose.
@jerryhall5709 Жыл бұрын
According to feminism men don't have rights. Some say it out loud but that's what they all think.
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme11 ай бұрын
Exactly, what if a man wants to do research in the vaginal moisture of nuns?
@harrietharlow9929Ай бұрын
But women's monasteries have to have a priest to celebrate Liturgy, so not equal. I didn't dig having to have men at all, so I went to Independent Orthodoxy.
@nunyabiznes33 Жыл бұрын
It's the same reason they used to not allow women into ships - it'll cause drama among the men 🤣. And in the case of these monks, they'd like to be as far away from any temptations as possible. I'd say a parallel would be convents where nuns also limit the entry of males. Albeit it's probably not as restrictive as Mt Athos coz after all, they need men do some of tasks like maintaining and repairing structures, etc.
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
Curious... how are the monks able to maintain their population if there are no women?>
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
There are nunneries where men are forbidden. They don't even invite workers, they do all the tough jobs themselves!
@mariossahamis39693 ай бұрын
If someone wishes to become a monk he will be tested thoroughly as a novice for 3 to 5 years and after that if he warmly wishes to become member of the brotherhood he will be accepted... Fortunately there are many candidates that replenish the population with Americans and one from japan recently... But the monks make clear to all who wish to become monks... Finish any cosmic obligations that they have and then become monks...
@Theodisc Жыл бұрын
In Greek η Μαριάμ - Maria is commonly titled η Θεοτόκος - i Theotókos meaning the God-bearer. Even the grammatical gender of this name is unusual being feminine. In Greek nearly all names/nouns that end -ος are grammatically masculines, o Σταύρος - Stávros, o Γιώργος - Giórgos/ο θανότος - the death, ο πόνος - the pain, o λόγος - the word or reason (tho' some -os ending nouns are so very old they are actually neuters - το). What is rare in Greek is for -os ending names to be feminines - η, and one of these is this title i Mariám bears η Θεοτόκος. So even the guardian saint of Áthos has a "skewed" linguistical genre applied to it.
@hassanhassan-os5oq Жыл бұрын
Great video👍
@1redeye_ Жыл бұрын
You didnt even finish the video
@hassanhassan-os5oq Жыл бұрын
@@1redeye_i skipped things that I already new like the beginning and parts of its history
@lowlife_nolife604711 ай бұрын
There was a similar case in India with the Sabrimala Temple. But, with the Supreme court doing away with the ban, well, things got a little out of hand. Had India pulled a similar move, the world would have hounded us.
@FabianEDuran Жыл бұрын
Women must Stay out !
@lilystonne4108 Жыл бұрын
Her argument that hypothetically it could be career restricting should a woman researcher wish to study a species of wildlife, is plausible. However, compare Mt Athos to other places in the world that are not accessible to everybody. For example, the missionary John Allan Chau was killed by Sentinelese, a uncontacted indigenous tribe on an island in the Indian Ocean when he tried to convert them to Christianity. He kept on landing on the island until they finally got rid of him.
@LilBallOfScorpioInTheCorner3 ай бұрын
Those species could be found all over not just there.
@georgemelder6082 Жыл бұрын
One lady is enough that is Holy mary the mother of our lord. She represent all women.
@mocabe01 Жыл бұрын
sure... and how will they maintain their population if they live with no women?
@Gibbstronic Жыл бұрын
@@mocabe01it's over 1000 years old and thriving. I think they'll be okay.
@taniakol Жыл бұрын
Well I'm a woman and dedicating the whole peninsula to her is definitely not enough lol.
@user-pj7sq7ce1f5 ай бұрын
@@mocabe01wake up they are monks !!!
@mariossahamis39693 ай бұрын
If some wants to see how the Holly Virgin Mary looks like Kindly visit in mount athos the russian monastery of saint pantelimon where a miracle had taken place in 1903 as far as remembered [ kindly correct me if for the year] Where she gave her blessing to the monks to photograph her 🥲 Here is the photo www.vimaorthodoxias.gr/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/1-38.jpg
@user-gk9mj5bo2e11 ай бұрын
I've been there once for business purposes. The landscape, the environment, tge forests and the monuments are stunning. It's beeing preserved constantly and that's the right way to pass this UNESCO heritage to the next generations
@therealrodney8561 Жыл бұрын
Some people are more concerned about the places they can’t go than maximizing themselves in the places they can!
@nassergabriel477816 күн бұрын
Protect this Mountain forever, Blessings from Ethiopia ☦
@xaralamposp4228Ай бұрын
There were also some Greeks among those who came to worship in the feast. These therefore came to Philip from Bethsaida of Galilee, and asked him, saying: Lord, we want to see Jesus. Philip comes and says to Andrew, and again Andrew and Philip say to Jesus. And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified..
@zainmudassir2964 Жыл бұрын
Good rule to be honest. Respect
@Tacquito Жыл бұрын
Yeah keep them away from all the gay sex they are having lol 😂
@OrthoKarter Жыл бұрын
@@Tacquitook turkgai
@VinnyUnion Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Devil's minions should stay out.
@thebasedspectre3048 Жыл бұрын
@@Tacquito philistine
@AaronAnaya Жыл бұрын
I don’t think we should force them to accept women, but I guarantee that all that respect for tradition would go out the window for Europeans if this place was a Muslim holy site.
@--julian_ Жыл бұрын
100%
@mappingshaman5280 Жыл бұрын
Meh depends if it would still be in a European Christian country or not. Idgaf what people do in the middle east.
@praddumnvats6759 Жыл бұрын
Idk non-Muslims can't go to mecca
@OrthoKarter Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@thefirm4606 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@johnrichards366611 ай бұрын
If I found myself in a place with no women it would probably take me a few days to notice.
@tnteachertim3 күн бұрын
Why would the lady expect to hear "female voices" about a monastery?? Seriously? Has she sought "male voices" in a convent???
@markherron1407 Жыл бұрын
Mount Athos is a male version of Themyscira Wonder Woman's Island 🏝️ Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
@mariossahamis39693 ай бұрын
Well to all who they don't know the complete history of the monasteries.. Most of them in the sea side were built as castles because of the pirate raids that took place and they had the permission from the Patriarch to defend their selves with weapons [ byzantine era]
@danielpaul3108 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a country with no complaining, no Karen's and no long hair clogging up drains and in your food.
@uberjoe-0811 ай бұрын
the kingdom of heaven
@stefanbaciu31217 ай бұрын
Brother, the monks all have long hair and beards
@harrietharlow9929Ай бұрын
@@stefanbaciu3121 Bingo.
@ErisstheGoddessofmanhwas4 ай бұрын
As Orthodox and woman i never visit monasteries, doesn't matter which monaster women or men .I believe monasteries are monks homes and i respects peoples home and only visit if someone alow me ro visit , or ask me to visit .As for the Europe they have no rights to interfere. If they ever decide to remove the ban Greek people will interfere too .We don't like our church to be disrespected like Europe did to Vatican. Good for them if they like women in Vatican or gay , leave the holy mount of Athos out of this .
@user-jc1dw9zf5t7 күн бұрын
yeah , a monastery . you are not even allowed in the general area , or the forest etc of a whole peninsula . and the whole thing is funded by euro taxes so imagine working your ass off to survive here in greece , and having part of your taxes going to a place that doesnt allow your entry because you are ''dirty'' lmao
@spyrosk5659 Жыл бұрын
The very fact that it is debated if women should be allowed or not really shows the lack of understanding and respect now days!! This is not a city or a town it is an area with a few monastery's it is autonomous and has lived that way for a millennia. It is not a resort or a retreat it is a place of worship! I am not religious my self but I understand the fact that they have to right to live the same way they did for A MILLENNIA in this SMALL area ! People need to understand that being for forbidden of something doesn't mean it impedes your freedom, somethings are bigger than you and me get over it!
@torstimyle1355 Жыл бұрын
No women, no drama... Cool!
@harrietharlow9929Ай бұрын
I assure you, many nuns feel the same about men.
@炎ノ11 ай бұрын
I'm glad everyone in the comments has accepted respecting mt athos privacy, its a holy site not a research or tourist attraction.
@samabeka302322 күн бұрын
The devil will always find a reason to profane and pervert the ways and works of holiness and God!
@Pan4723 ай бұрын
As a Greek, it's actually good they're adhering so much to the traditions. Plus that they're actually really cultured and very learned. The libraries in the monasteries might as well have artefacts that we don't even know about, as everything is so secluded.
@ShoutOfCoffee Жыл бұрын
So...this is how heaven looks like 😁
@thamithwala3011 Жыл бұрын
Not only are women banned, but also children, livestock and media. They can't jail kids, livestock or the media so I understand why the heavy punishment. The previous attempts were a good enough reason.
@Giannis_Sarafis Жыл бұрын
Boys can enter Mount Athos with a male relative of their. But not babies for obvious reasons.
@patricemitchell4392 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like some funny business are they on the down low 🤔 gay monks ? So no woman or babies just young boys and men. Ok
@tatarofromfyromistan5010 Жыл бұрын
@@patricemitchell4392 there are lesbian nunneries if you're interested. lol
@Maliceless100 Жыл бұрын
Gender equality is an oxymoronic, oversimplified idea. In general, females need their own spaces and so do males. The word "ban" is misleading. Respect female-only and male-only places. There aren't many of them.