Ryan is out there trying to ruin people and has been for a long time. It’s weird.

☝️☝️ This right here says it all! Facts my friend 💯🎯

@@nikrixxx6338 Agreed. 👍 💯

He didn't, Listen to the beginning of the video. This reactor was very clear he didn't approve of Ryan coming for a rap battle. He said he didn't understand why he couldn't just call him and work it out. Listen, Ryan's perspective is VALID based on this video and history with this reactor.

​@macjeni yeah I feel some bias from flawd against Ryan. He disregarded a lot of the bars on the diss record.

@@michaelostergren3516 Calling a different perspective a lie is certainly bias. People will do anything to protect their own false reality I guess.

Zippyyyyy 😂

sharky! 😊

It's bc upchurch knows his fans are willfully stupid and believe everything he says. It's what happens when someone surrounds themselves with yes men. He literally thinks he's God bc his yes men make him believe he's bigger and better than he is

Y'all are blind frfr did you pull the video up and watch the first half of it?

@@tasheenameadows2485 so you didn't see the first half of the video where he's talking about how he don't understand why he's call Tom out and not just call him and work it out instead of dissing him? And the reactor that is trying to lie and say it's about him saying the n word has a video on his channel reacting to Adam Calhouns song where he says it a bunch with the a and with the hard r but dude didn't bat an eye or get upset he was rocking with it enjoying cuz it wasn't a diss directed at Tom lol it's ok that you got race baited into thinking this dude was really upset by the word

@@tasheenameadows2485 but when you take into account the fact there is video proof he has put out his self that he doesn't have an issue with another white artist that says the word in a song multiple times with the a and hard r that he reacted to and didn't bat an eye get offended or his feelings hurt at all by it but then when it comes to involving his favorite rapper getting dissed it struck a nerve he's offended and so against the use of the word now??? Make that make sense lol y'all can't you ignore that part cuz it proves the narrative wrong

​​@@jordanfarquhar5912hard r? What are you on about? Edit: he just said he didn't understand why he was dissing what he thought was upchurch's boy. You yourself are spinning the narrative. Until you get the facts straight, get the fuck out.

Just in the past year, he's had multiple videos with millions of views so you probably need glasses asap And you thinking he has a drug problem tells me that you don't know him at all.

Address the issue. If it was a rap battle he would not need to repeat the issue you know the issue he clarifies the issue with the statement “language arts” Prior to that he says hes upset cause he did something “TYPED”something you did not like At the end of the clip he says he is a white boy missing teeth ext ext but he is the one keeping hip hop alive !!!!!! “”If he knew about hip hop and rap battles he would understand clearly that in hip hop and rap battling it involves disrespect foul language insults and derogatory terms!!

I said the same thing in the other video Flawd made. It's so obvious. Back in my party days I knew a lot of tweakers, and there are several dead giveaways with Upchurch.

Bro we all been at the gas station with Crystal 3 am cleaning out your car a little while your gas is pumping cleaning the windows then BOOM your fucking washing your dirty Honda or Cadillac with that squeegee or maybe most people haven't. Anyway church I'm here for ya... been in the arms of addiction careful with that gaslighting

I live in Tennessee and that shit has been bad around here too.. I hope that's not the case with church but if so I pray he gets away asap and I the meantime stays safe..u never really know what that shit could have in with it.

He's not exposed and not lying. No editing or anything

​@@Thebogeybro What have you been watching 👀

@@Thebogeybro Why are you ignoring the truth ?

I know it blew my mind when Ryan said he was coming for Tom while in the shower and then said he was coming for anybody that had Toms back and all of his minions have been treating the reactors that disagree or like Tom like trash.

@424stormygirl Exactly! Plus how you gonna call out someone's cap size but turn around and be capping your damn self.

Agreed he is acting like a damn little Kid who got his Cheerios pissed in

Does he not realize that he is hurting reactors money attacking us in chats. We support them with our comments. Now who wants to be attacked. For me if everyone’s getting attacked and reactor don’t care there are plenty more we can support. I love them both but lately I’ve been rethinking my judgement. Thanks for doing your research great channel .

Judging from the beginning of the video he expressed his biased opinion on church and how he doesn't understand why he came at Tom thought they were cool with each other and friends and had friends in common and why couldn't he just call Tom and work it out instead of dissing him which shows he was upset and felt a type of way about the diss not to mention the title being Tom MacDonald diss? This will be my last Upchurch reaction also shows he is upset about the diss so to say that his video was solely about Upchurch saying the n-word and that he didn't even say one word about the tom diss at all is false and also to say Upchurch didn't respond to his original complaint isn't true either Upchurch said in the beginning of his video let me guess you seen me saying or doing something you didn't like which encompasses the dudes whole video saying something dude didnt like(the n-word) and doing something he didn't like(dissing Tom) and if the guys only issue was Upchurch saying the n-word why didn't he have a problem with it any other time it has been said by upchurch because why boys isn't the first song he's said it in but when it was in the tom diss that he didn't understand why it was going on and why he wouldn't call tom and work it out instead of dissing him its more offensive and disrespectful than the other times? Can anyone explain how that makes sense please?

Well said🎉🎉🎉🎉

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT. ISSUES. Issues that have made him act like a child, daily. It's called not having a father figure and a deviant for a mom. and that sucks, but at some point ya gotta grow up, figure it our for yourself and act like a Man. Not some middle school geek who thinks its cool to write "RAP BEEFS" . How retarded. But hey, I too have this unpopular opinion. Just wanted to say that your comment stands out and should have all the ups.

Yeah, I picked up on it too, guy does have issues, time for a Therapy Session... lol, now he will go after NF...

Nobody on Ryan's side is using Tom's recovery against him. I don't know why anyone would but here you are. This is hip hop if you can't handle the culture without losing your own integrity you shouldn't be involved🥴

@@macjeni What are you even talking about? Sound so dumb but you did make me laugh with this trash tho, 😆

@@elisr357 Facts to much for the feeble minded I suppose. Enjoy your Braying.

@@elisr357she is every comment acting Ryan’s pick me girl. 😂

@@dominic150 😆 🤣 😂

Same I have mental health issues and I can easily see something is going on

Karma is a bitch look at the views on the new album he just dropped. Dumpster fire

I pray Tom don’t respond. If he doesn’t then Tom wins the battle. Because we all know that Tom doesn’t respond to smaller rappers hence “No Response”.

TDS is real Tom Derangement Syndrome

Upchurch might sue him for that. 😅

Well .......

Hahaha wait what?!?! Oh boy .....

I said the same... I saw this coming when he started saying anyone talking about politics was stupid when right before that he was all about it and a few of his friends still did. It was downhill after that. That is just when I started slowly seeing him change.

Me too because I use to love his stuff but can't really stomach him much anymore.

@@amberpowell2609 I found it odd when Church said that also. Because that was literally one of things he built his channel on. lol

@@JaysinStatic13813 Exactly.

He's always been a punk lmao ain't no old church this is him a childish man.

Ryan's perspective is different it's not a lie. These reaction channels are very familiar with Ryan's language. He's never taken issue with it before. He does clearly state he takes issue with Ryan coming for Tom in the beginning of the video. That's the part Ryan addressed in his video his perception is not a lie it's purely logical.

You clearly didn't watch the man's video either his problem was with the n word if Ryan would have addressed what the man was truly upset about I wouldn't have a problem but I believe he knows that would bring alot of heat on him

@@todddarrell700 it was addressed, I believe "tractor soup-lie was the video in question. Your biased opinion doesn't change the fact that Ryan's perspective is unique to him. I see it the same. You have no idea what strangers on the Internet"truly" feel. I don't know why logic is failing so many people on this, there are entertainers..

A lot! Homework 101.

@janarunsfw2708 “What else is he spinning?” The Tom stuff - that’s what else.

@@saraohara2504 I’m all over it. Most of it is completely unsubstantiated. Some of it is projection, gaslighting, and the deployment of flying monkeys fueled by jealousy. And to give him a little credit, some of it is just stupidity. It’s called a “smear campaign” a very special weapon held in a narcissist’s arsenal.

@@saraohara2504 go look up the kiely Rodni case he spun that right into a lawsuit.

Losing credibility? Lol okay

Thats what I said too ..upchurch whining that tom using his name. Which he ok he was.. but like he makes it seem like tom is the only person to do it when they all likely do it ..and clearly upchurch does too so it's ok for him...but not tom.. dumb...lol

I saw that too.

Where can I find that,?

@@Real_Backwoodz_Logan You can find it yourself by going to page source and searching keywords.

​@nikki7906 Ryan is unhinged and toxic the last few years. I stopped following his lives and non-music videos. Now because of this BS he's doing I'll probably remove his music from my Playlist now.

Bottom line.....Upchurch feeling attention deprived....so he's trying to get some Tom and Adam attention.....thinking making someone look bad will make him look better has made him look ignorant.......keep burning those bridges Ryan......and find yourself on an island all alone

He's probably going after nova because he knows that's what lethal did and why tom responded again ..tom doesn't care what people say about him..but talk about nova and its on..lol ..church just doing it on hopes that tom will respond..

I didn't know he went after Nova

​@@nikki7906and? For what? The m this battle is made up in Church's head.

Nova would body him in a diss. Her pen is venomous when she's mad.

@amberpowell2609 I know ..but one way to get tom to respond would be to go after nova.. that's all I was saying... tom was gonna leave the lethal battle alone after he did his first one..but then lethal came after nova and thats why tom clapped back again. Church just mad tom won't respond ...lol

I like them both but you do have it backwards toms defeating himself not responding, Upchurch came with the intel and tom sits invisible

All of you fans of Ryan's for years out there forget where Ryan came from? He trolled people on Vine. Ryan hasn't changed. Seems everyone else has. Lame.

@@saddletramp5000 ain’t nobody time for the petty ass shit he is doing - no one cares so what he got beef with Tom we get it now move on and shut up !!

@christgekas1100 It's not just beef. Tom is pulling the wool over the eyes of Americans, and patronizing country folks. Ryan took it personally. And he's not done. He wouldn't be doing this if he didn't have receipts.

@@saddletramp5000 how is he patronizing country folks just cause he made a damn song with a country artist and he just so happens to like being in America ( which btw doesn’t mean your country ) so if that’s the cause of all the fuckery then why make a dis track about a damn music video which Adam ( who I thought he was cool with) was on the same damn video … and he called him some names ok boo hoo go change your panties like he is mad that Tom tagged him in his damn songs but yet he does the same shit and oh what about the fucking reactors he is going after - and not even ranting about what the guy was even saying …. Get your head out your ass and pay attention to how childish the fuck tard is being !!!!

Tom is fake and a different perspective is not a lie, the title of this video is intentionally misleading. I don't believe this reactor takes issue with Ryan's language. He's never had any issues with it before so logically I believe he's using his language as an issue because he doesn't approve of Ryan coming for Tom. Why else would he have an issue with it now? Think for yourself.

@macjeni he never said he had issues with the beef?? I don't think you watched the video lol.

@@jax9763 I did, He said he didn't get why Ryan would come at Tom like this "I thought y'all we're boy's" and "I don't see why you couldn't just call him" we're glossed over but they were there. Right at the beginning of the video. Since this particular reactor has definitely heard Ryan say it before without issue I seriously doubt he's taking issue with it now. I'm going back to the original statement made because it makes sense logically. You don't have to agree with my perspective like opinion it's based on ones own knowledge and observations, they aren't lies.

@macjeni that doesn't mean he has an issue with their beef. He was just asking what was happening, how it started lol. Everyone did.

​@@jax9763exactly he just talked about the beef in the intro to explain what lead him to Church's IG in the first place. He was just curious about how it all started. FTB doesn't even rock with Tom that hard. I would even say he enjoyed Church's tracks more.

Snowflake

@@nodim6379 crybaby

@@nodim6379 squishy brain

I stopped following Church after the whole Kylie Rodni debacle. What he did to that family was really, really gross.

​@@redshed2020if you don't mind me asking, what did church do?

Absolutely 💯

Coming from cancel culture? You know they have the same political views as Tom pretends to have right? Ryan really is being censored, Tom really is striking reaction pages that don't play along with his parody. Tom is deleting comments by his own fans asking for a response to the diss track because they enjoy the ART. It's not cancel culture it's hip hop.

His fans are a bunch of sheep.

​@@darrensteele3365🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 says the guy who's defending Tom a dude who started out rapping like a liberal with American Dreams then magically switched. Yet Upchurch fans are sheep. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@michaelbehrens1179 He raps from many different perspectives. Like If I Was Black. You know he's not a actually black, right?

@@darrensteele3365 of course but like he does everything else he pretends to be whatever the song is about. Congrats. That's called pandering for a grift.

​@@darrensteele3365 Right! But upchurch uses a word that he's not supposed to because HE'S appropriating? Wtf. That is some p×ssy sh×t. And that's coming from a girl.

I wouldn't be surprised if upchurch is being paid by the government to push there agenda

With a cult of toothless rednecks behind him

Facts

Y'all butt hurt cause u really like him and know he's fire artist church church church

Amen sista

@@murda420kemp3 yergoofy

Exactly, and nobody buying it either.

Now he is going after Nova 😮😮😮she did nothing to him ever😮

Nova is even married to another person...and with Tom...they give plenty of ammo with their fake asses

​@@KY_HollerBoy tf you talking about man😂 Must be smoking with Church too much😂😂

@@KY_HollerBoyand who is she married to? You can’t say someone is married and not provide names. And are you saying she’s happily married to some other dude or she was married once and just never got divorced? If you can’t answer these questions you might want to stop saying this.

@KY_Hollerboy shut up and be a real fan of church. Realize the man is having some serious struggles and push him to get help. I like Tom and I like Church. Church has been slowly getting worse for a while now. He’s going insane. He needs to get back on track and continue being the talent he truly is. This is just sad.

Look up Dag burn Johnny gobble you’ll see someone who’s obsessed

@user-su7cf3ym2t Agree. Upchurch is acting like an absolute psycho. Also, you should consider changing your YT username - it’s the worst one I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Do you like getting called a bot? With a username like yours, I hope so.

Some have even said Ryan is off his rocker he thinks he won because tom won't respond

@@Rebel45Official You are absolutely right .. Ryan was obsessed over Johnny too ! Even drove to paintsville with a gun on his hip like a pussy boy ! Lmao

Keyword being tweeking. I'm all for over-analysis, but some of his conspiracy theory videos lately, true or not, is some tweeker type line of thinking.

Church is calling out Tom for being mainstream, while he claims to be "against the system" Tom's a paid for goof now

Upchurch has lost it. People change after they get clean and as they grow up. That's is his insult.

He looks like he's been smoking meth lately.

Absolutely 💯 ... He's playing an evil game and I'm so glad #Tom McDonald isn't giving it any attention.

The satanic attack is what pissed me off. Great way to tell subscribers to go fuck themselves. Ive listened to both guys for years and guess what ... I'm not Christian..... I'm a witch and guess what bible thumpers live to do? Call me a satanist for symbols they only know from horror movies being misused or because of a joke. I didn't care church is Christian but I fucking care if he's gonna act like a bible thumpers cause of some old photos that have fucking pentagrams in them and rock and roll horns. I'd honestly love to have a word with church about now cause he has mis spoke on the origins of the country, our founding fathers, and his bible. I've grown up dealing with bible thumpers so I know there book better than most of them thanks to them not minding there own damn business. If church is gonna go down the extreme Christian route he should at least know his book properly as well as knowing damn well what the satanic symbol actually is instead of a pentagram.... Ok, sorry lol, rant over. I guess I was more pissed by that then I thought 😂. Church's schtick has been about being a genuine country boy but from my memory Tom has shown more genuine and admitted to his past. Not everyone could admit to being a homeless junkie to a 100k people without excuses ya know. I have thought this for awhile and still do, church desperately needs to take a full, real, break from all this shit, and get some real help to sort his head and feelings out. Running never works.

Unless your mixed race like my wife that was born in the south and had to deal with racist pigs like Upchurch.

Lmao 🤣 rotfl 😂 haha 😆 creek squad addition lmao 🤣

No, I called it out months ago but you know how that goes.

Not just you. I stopped watching his videos a couple years ago because of how unhinged and toxic he had become.

@@RayVyn64 me too.

It's enough to make me rethink the whole Katie Noel situation (but I never really had all the facts to begin with on that one)

When you say, Upchurch is losing his mind no he’s not losing his mind. He’s telling the truth and people don’t want to hear the truth. The truth is the N-word is not that bad it’s just something Black people like to hold against us just like everything else. You must stand with Upchurch. They did this to Kanye West, when he spoke the truth and now you guys are trying to kill Upchurch. It doesn’t matter he’s the man he’s the most talented artist there is in the world right now it’s that simple.

What else did your crystal ball tell you?

@@seretti you don't need a crystal ball Hun if you do a little research. Be blessed.

@@cindyherring1998 Yes you do to make a statement like that when the court case is far from done.

@@seretti I have my opinion based on paper facts.. you can keep having yours. 😊 No worries. People often self destruct ... It's just wrong to try to take others down with them. Whoever it is... #humanitymatters. Have a blessed day.

I loved it 😁

Dawg! 100% all of THIS! I see the jealousy so obvious but never looked at the relationship and parents angle. You on to something serious here.

​@@jayprichard2024so true! Upchurch wants everyone to believe he's just a good old country boy. I've never met a real country boy who encourages people to bully and harass his own parents. No country boy would be that hateful especially to his mother. He said when she dies he will piss on her grave and have a party! I've never seen a badass country boy tattoo his mommy issues on his face either 😂

Is it jealousy? Or is he just annoyed at Tom's "get rich quick- right-wing grift OVER actual musical integrity"? Because while I agree with most of Tom's "points"(I wanted to say "views", but I don't even know what he believes anymore tbh) I'm sick of hearing him talk about it for a quick buck, actually participating in the downfall of society where he used to be a true voice of reason amidst it all... Tom has said "ya know what, fuck it, I write actual music and Noone listens, I write the same garbage line 79 different ways about the Trans or woke library's and I become a millionaire, guess I'll be a millionaire....." And that's facts. Been representing for tom for over 7 years, and his "post covid" arc is nothing but "marketing genius, the algorithm triggered by exploiting your weakness".... I'm not mad he said it, or does it, just that new overnight fans don't even know the difference....

@mikestavisky8009 long post. Short attention span I'm afraid. I don't know if Tom means what he says...BUT...He says good stuff and he says it alot. I imagine he believes it and he makes money also. 2 truths simultaneously. Full disclosure: I've listened to the guy for YEARS! Long before he got anywhere close to famous. I don't think he's conservative or overly right wing...just anti woke and anti propaganda.

@mikestavisky8009 Tom was asked on a live.... "When will you quit talking about these same subjects over and over?"​Tom replied, " I'll quit talking about these subjects as soon as they change for the better". How irresponsible is it when you use your platform to talk about mindless drivel when you could be speaking on things that might actually help move us all in a postive direction? Church certainly isnt about anything but division and drama, and thats way outside this isssue with Tom. Its been constant since before he went flaky following that girl's disappearance. I really hope he can get his head on straight.

I was an upchurch fan for years until I finally believed him when he showed his true colors. Even then I said I thought he was still a good person. I no longer feel that way. He takes the most joy in hurting people and ruining their lives. I saw it as a fan but convinced myself he was justified. He is fully aware of the power he holds over his fanbase and constantly uses it to hurt people. He knows all he has to do is make a video about a certain person and his fans will do all his dirty work for him. They will relentlessly attack, harass, stalk, and threaten anyone upchurch has a problem with without even trying to hear the other side. He has become nothing but an entitled, delusional, bitter, angry, jealous, and hateful person

And he defamed a Crime KZfaqr when doing all that and being sued for it. He def needs Jesus.

​@cindyherring1998 You say that, but recently he has started pointing out. The quote unquote truth in the bible and is now a very crazy ass conspiracy christIan

Tom has always supported reactors. Even Flawd knows this firsthand. Ryan is just lying at this point, But why? None of what Ryan has been doing surrounding this one-sided beef makes any sense to me.

@@TracyLynn077 church isn't lying about shit

No. There have been numerous reactors getting copyright strikes etc from Tom. If they criticize him, he hits em and prevents them from monetizing their reaction videos.

Y'all upset cause upchurch called this guy out for getting into feeling and making video about.. if you know you know. Just another gate keeper , trying tell people they can and can't say based off race or fake pass..

Cry harder

Yep..I knew when he said that he was a liar. He's used it in comedy/reaction videos years ago.

Because THAT is what TOM is. 😂 Listen to him say it in his own words in his music if you'd like to. See for yourself.

​@@aaronatwood9361that's bs and Church changes his reason every other day. Lol. What song does he say he is without taking it out of context. And to be honest I think at one time Tom was more closed off the relegion but people change especially after they get clean.

@@aaronatwood9361 When did Tom say this? Which song?

​@@aaronatwood9361I have all his CD's and he's not a Satanist. That's just more of Ryan's bullshit selective editing and CNN editing.

@@RayVyn64 You are either deaf or dont listen to them. Im a Tom macdonald fan and unless you are ignoring his own words than you know all his biggest fans hail satan. From his own words.

Substance abuse.

Or untreated mental health issues. This breakdown is super similar to a family members behavior when she was unmedicated for her bi-polar disorder.

I said it on one of his post I’ve seen people with mental health disorders and I know from him posting like crazy about what his mother did to him. I think it’s finally hitting him that he was hurt more than anything by the one person you don’t expect to hurt you like that. He is having a mental breakdown and he is trying to mask his pain and anger with substance. And I think Tom understands this and he won’t say anything about it.

It's been happening for a few years now. I finally had to stop watching his videos a couple years ago. Too sad and too toxic.😢

I don't think it's mental health. Everyone throws that around way too much, saying everything someone does must be linked to it. Upchurch is smoking meth. If you know anything about meth and how people are after being up for 2 to 3 days, then fall out for a couple days, he has the same erratic rants and behavior...

Because giving someone the benefit of doubt is what decent people do lol wtf. It actually says more about you that you assumed Flawd knew all that information you just mentioned but STILL believed him. I mean shit I didn't know his track record

His fans are weird as fck.

He shows receipts.

@@jimmylarge1148so far, nah.

@@jimmylarge1148 not at all. He twists words and edits videos. And still he hasn't shown where Tom apparently said he's saving country rap.

🤣 still hilarious that his fans pretend he never did all that horrible shit to Kylie's poor family. not to mention the KZfaqrs he lied about.

Dude churches base isn’t going anywhere. Church wasn’t lying when he said you hear him in town in the nice toys. My trucks have played plenty of independent artists but Tom’s a listen once and done artists

You're completely wrong with this

Absolutely that diss sounded and smelled 100% like a clout chase...

@@chadh7005 all that matters is the real ones understand. I’ve kept up with church and other artists and I’ve seen a few people side eye what Tom’s been doing. I myself have gotten to where I won’t watch Tom’s instagram no more. Y’all hog heads just don’t get it.

We are witnessing the fall of Ryan Upchurch mentally ill breakdown . The crazier thing is he's spending all day and night on this stuff. He needs to do like Tom go completely straight edge and see a shrink and get some help.