Why would you buy a BMW R1250 RT?

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Ай бұрын

There are plenty of options if you are in the market for a big, comfortable touring motorcycle. Ross from Biker Torque took the big BMW R1250RT on tour from Sydney to Melbourne then around Tasmania. There was breathtaking scenery, delicious food stops, but was the big german boxer the and ultimate touring motorcycle? Hit subscribe to join us on this unforgettable journey to find out.
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@paulhenderson1462 Ай бұрын

If you have a lot of money to burn and want a truly ugly machine, you should buy one!

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Anyone agree with this sentiment?

@dnbanb Ай бұрын

@BikerTorque not at all. The bike is beautiful and the price reflects alot of value you wont get for a long distance tourer from other makers.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

@@dnbanb spot on

@tombiggs4687 Ай бұрын

@@BikerTorque No. People compliment it all the time. I think it is as beautiful as my Blackbird was - and that's saying a lot, because the 'Bird is one of the classic beauties.

@Boterberg Ай бұрын

I believe the Goldwing F6B delivers more bang for your buck. And a perfect everyday allrounder. It weighs more, but is lower so you don’t feel that weight. And, cost of maintenance is significantly lower. The DCT is very smart, perfect shifts everytime.

@decocatani Ай бұрын

For more than 20 years, every single review on BMW RT´s starts and ends with "an absolutelly awesome bike". It´s as simple as that. Always.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

And all those reviews are absolutely spot on. Thanks for watching.

@lestersmyth692 Ай бұрын

Yes I ride an RT and I wouldn’t change it for the world. Everyone should try to ride one at least once in their lifetime.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

100% agree. Thanks for watching

@stevecarr323 21 күн бұрын

I'm on my fourth RT. It is a fantastic ride.

@mikaelpettersson2389 Ай бұрын

According to all reviews I have seen, the 1250 RT is the best tourer in the BMW lineup.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Absolutely no arguments from me, best tourer I’ve ever ridden.

@DHL2625 Ай бұрын

I tend to agree. Switched from a 2021 RT to a 2022 K1600 GT last year, only because I got a GREAT deal. I haven’t regretted this, but I also have to admit that you get a lot more value for your money with the RT.

@bryanhenderson736 Күн бұрын

I've had a number of road bikes, and can honestly say it's the best bike I've bought. Fully worth it. Completely capable bike in so many ways, I love it. 2024 is fantastic

@BikerTorque Күн бұрын

Spot on. I think when I’m ready to do some serious touring, the R1250RT ( or maybe R1300RT) will be at the very top of a short list.

@tombiggs4687 Ай бұрын

16 years on a CBR1100XX Blackbird, loved it. Scoffed at ever buying a stodgy, posh BMW. But, the 'Bird got old, 90K miles, and I started looking around. Friends riding GS's were fast on the backroads and raved about their bikes. But I wanted a bit more comfort for those long days. Before covid, I took a test ride on an RT - when I say test ride, I mean that I rented one in San Francisco and did 1600 miles of Northern California with my wife riding pillion. I was surprised by how capable it was. So when I got a bonus at work, I went right down to the dealer and bought my own RT in 2021. I love this bike. I can whip it around mountain roads with gusto, or ride the open country roads or highway with the cruise control on, either way, I'm perfectly comfortable for 3-400 miles. I did finally get the Connected app sorted, but it does have shortcomings. So I mounted a Zumo XT, which has its own shortcomings. But between the two, I always get there! 😆

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

1600 miles. That’s a decent test ride. Thanks for sharing, would love to try a blackbird one day

@dnbanb Ай бұрын

The Blackbird is a once in a generation bike. All these years later im still in love with the design and performance of that bike. What a machine

@tombiggs4687 Ай бұрын

@@dnbanb Yes it was! While I owned it, I'd tell people "This is the only vehicle I've ever owned that I like *more* every year." Beautiful in appearance. Well-mannered at any speed from parking lot to ludicrously fast. Stable yet carved corners with aplomb. Surprisingly comfortable on long days. A true "Gentleman's Express".

@tigerick7291 19 күн бұрын

Wow, that's some bonus.👌

@tombiggs4687 19 күн бұрын

@@tigerick7291 First thing my boss said was "Are you sitting down? Maybe you should sit down." 😮 FIrst job I've had where bonuses weren't just symbolic, buy yourself a nice dinner amounts.

@henningdehnert5969 Ай бұрын

Hey there from the other side of the world. I'm a K1600gt owner and just had the 1250 RT as a loaner, because my bike was at the workshops and I have to agree with you that the RT is a great bike. It feels relativly light and nimble for the heavy thing that it is. My own bike feels more heavy and is not as nimble but I like the inline six cylinder engine even more than the boxer. More power, more top end rush und all the comfort you might want. You have to ride the six cylinder just to try it. It's an awesome engine and just over 6000 rpm it really sings. Always brings a smile to my face.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Cheers thanks for sharing, definitely hoping to get on one of the K series bikes at some stage. Thanks for watching, enjoy that K1600 of yours I’m sure it’s a wonderful bike.

@trailingarm63 Ай бұрын

I accept that for you, the K1600 is absolutely fabulous. I think riders' natures are divided into two camps. Those that love the turbine-like howl of a four or six-cylinder engine and those that like the grumpy/happy bangers that are twins.I'm one of the latter and could never exchange that for multi-cylinder smoothness no matter how fast they can go.

@LordyBeevill Ай бұрын

Owned one of these a few years ago.. would happily get another one .. only slight downside was the weight, and also some people thought I was a cop ( I had a white one) Love the heated seat and the range. Wind protection is the best of any stock bike .. Great for 2 up as well. Because of the wind protection think i rode on average at a lot higher speeds than any other bike I’ve owned …

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

They are heavy, but carry it really well, particularly once you start moving, typical boxer.

@martyn_g Ай бұрын

Any BMW boxer is a kick arse bike.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Absolutely, but have to say that any airhead is the most kick arse. Thanks for watching

@javigasbot Ай бұрын

You mean for the repair shop, mate???? You're right.....And it doesn't come cheap, does it ???? ANYWAY CHEERS AND ENJOY...

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

@@javigasbot I’ve owned 4 boxers over the last 25 years and never had a issue, and airheads, well they are simple enough to work on at home.

@noLuckyStrike09 Ай бұрын

I own the first 2005 R1200RT, still in mint-condition. Sadly it's without ANY extra's. It's a brilliant machine. The fact they've changed so little on this bike over the years says it all.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Absolutely. How many kms do you have on it?

@BDHO73 Ай бұрын

That bike was an absolute rocket on that trip. It looked great too.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

It was!

@S2NAZ Ай бұрын

I’ve owned 3 over the last 20 years. Terrific bike beautifully designed. I prefer the earlier RT’s because the new RT’s feel so heavy. FJR 1300 is a blast but I can’t do the seating position for distance. The K1600 is too big imho but a hell of a bike. I’ve owned one of those too. 👍🏻

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

I actually didn’t find it that heavy, but then again I own an R18

@andrewsoldan6050 27 күн бұрын

once boxer always boxer

@BikerTorque 27 күн бұрын

True

@amasdaha9734 Ай бұрын

Sooo, RT with some basic crash bars and swap a bash plate, add 70/30 tires and the RT is a perfect gravel bike plus the usual highway miles. Last summer I swapped for 50/50 tires in Fairbanks Alaska and rode the sloppy road to Deadhorse. No need for the GS unless you are up for stump and rock crawling. RT is a perfect bike, wouldn’t swap it for anything. ❤

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

That ride sounds awesome.

@dadandmari-polishandproud771 16 күн бұрын

Been riding Beemers since '66, currently ride a 09 K1300GT, love it! I balked at the $28K price tag of 1the R1250 but on the same day saw a $95K+ Ford F-150 in a local dealership, 2 wheels or four, the parice tags are nutz!

@BikerTorque 15 күн бұрын

Yes, things are certainly getting expensive

@hachewie 15 күн бұрын

That day to Strathgordon dam was absolutely brilliant. Long day but well worth the ride. Had a great time man. The best. I got a job in Tassie. Start 22nd July.

@BikerTorque 15 күн бұрын

Yes it was! Certainly my favourite day of the trip. Nice one, all the best with the new job, when do you head down there?

@mottolife1543 26 күн бұрын

This a beautiful motorcycle and easy can be exchange by the GS and jump on a R1250RT...love this bike

@BikerTorque 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching

@tazyt3388 Ай бұрын

stirling work ross that thing did a great job did surprise me how nimble it was in the tight stuff and fled the scene in a flash too great vid mate hope your well bring a duely next trip got places to show ya 🍺👍

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Why thank you my friend. Yes, will have to go dial sport next time I’m in Tassie. Might have to speak to Yamaha about getting a new Tenere (or two)

@tazyt3388 Ай бұрын

@@BikerTorque yeees thatd be very sweet

@flycast641 Ай бұрын

I have a 1250R. The app is awful. I never use it. Love the bike.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Agree with you about the app. Thanks for watching

@ThrottleDownunder Ай бұрын

Beautiful guys. Nicee to see Helga got a cameo 👏 ❤

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Had to get her in there somewhere, still can’t believe you sold it.

@grogman1911 Ай бұрын

Nice video. I may have to plan a visit and ride Tasmania.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

You should! Definitely some of the best roads in Australia. Thanks for watching

@marcr660907 Ай бұрын

I bought my RT last year, traded my GT 1600 in on it. I’m very impressed with it, and agree with your overall assessment, especially on the App and Navigation integration, very touch and go. I also don’t have much luck with the wireless charging, it works ok with iPhone X, but nothing newer.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Interesting re wireless charging, I have an iPhone X, probably why there was no issues. Thanks for watching, great to hear you are enjoying your R1250RT, always good to hear from owners.

@porcobianco Ай бұрын

Have you considered using a dedicated phone for the bike? I bought a cheap factory refurbished Samsung Galaxy for my RT (MY21) since there seems to be no difference in app connectivity among the Apple or Android versions. And if you only have the app and your music (if you listen to music while riding) on the phone, nobody can access your personal information even if the phone gets stolen from the charging compartment during pit stops. In 2021 the Connected app would crash on almost every ride, and had to be rebooted. But since the 2022 s/w update it has not crashed any more. However, as you know, the app is useless for planning multi-day journeys. For that you need trip planning software and a laptop or a desktop. But for shorter rides you can save enough 'favorites' on the app and easily select one from the TFT as your next destination/waypoint.

@marcr660907 Ай бұрын

This is probably the best solution, thanks I will look into doing this. I normally plan my routes on Basecamp and upload the gpx files to the BMW app. I still get a problem with the ‘wifi’ dropping at stops and not reconnecting.

@gaetanbolduc8417 22 күн бұрын

Great review. I had the chance to swap my R1250 GSA for an RT in Provence France and Corsa Island for a 2 weeks trip with my wife in a group tour called Road2Luxe. The Rt is like you said, very at ease on twisty roads and just enough sporty in Dynamic mode …great tour bike . We did 3000km in about 14 days and only missed my GSA when hitting rough roads in Corsa!

@BikerTorque 21 күн бұрын

Cheers, and thanks for sharing your experience in the R1250RT. Sounds like you had a great tour

@garyogden5873 Ай бұрын

I picked up a new RT in March this year after 30+ years on Harley's. I just couldn't do long days on my Fat Boy. I went RT primarily for the reason you said about off road. Having had both knee and spinal surgery and at 71 yrs old no way am I going on dirt tracks. I'm 8 weeks of ownership and have already put 50% of my Harley 4 year mileage on the RT and I love it. Yes the nav takes some getting used to but my issues and frustrations were all operator error!! I would like to run alternative nav apps but hey ho it works fine if you take the time to learn how to use it.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

To be fair the nab could have been user error on my part also, just found it a bit frustrating, apart from that, wonderful bike. I’m guessing it would be a massive step up in terms of comfort from your Fatboy,

@r12rtpilot Ай бұрын

Great video chat by you guys. I've had several RT, but am now thinking of an RS. Just not exactly sure why...my 2020 RT is pretty fantastic!

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

DOn’t get me wrong, I did love the RS when I had it for review, but the RT is perfectly set up for touring, and is just as sporty, so if you plan on doing a lot of touring, it would be the RT for me.

@_Corsa Ай бұрын

I've been bike only for almost 10 years, do not own a car. Last 3 years on a 1250GS and it's been fantastic, I love the boxer engine. I trade up ever 5 years, staying with the boxer so the RT is high on the list next time. Thank you for your thoughts on the machine, great video.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

GS is still an awesome bike, we are just about to hand back the 1300GS so that video will be up in a few weeks, but really did love the RT

@BlueRidgeRider 21 күн бұрын

The app is garbage. I mounted a Zumo XT2 above the TFT. In 54 years of riding I’ve owned more than 60 bikes. My RT is by far the best bike I’ve owned or ridden. Glad to see you enjoyed it!

@BikerTorque 21 күн бұрын

I really did enjoy the bike, near perfect touring bike, apart from that app. Not familiar with the Zumo XT2. Thanks for watching

@jimbroen 16 күн бұрын

I buy used and I buy on price. Any of the big tourers will work just fine for North American mile crunching. American V twins are the popular choice here on the Canadian Prairies and are pricey. GS' are popular and pricey used. Gold Wings seem better at holding value than the BMWs. Another advantage of a machine that is not made for going off road is that they never go off road. Big tourers are owned by old dudes many of whom are obsessive about maintenance and the bike lives its life on cruise control in top gear. Its safe to buy one with significant mileage that has been well maintained. I looked at R12 GTs but ended up with a K1600GT. Where I live there are more sellers than buyers so it's easy to find a very well maintained example for a good price.

@BikerTorque 15 күн бұрын

I haven’t ridden a K1600 as yet, but keen to jump on one, here they are the goods.

@jimbroen 15 күн бұрын

@@BikerTorque I visited the BMW dealership today and saw that there are still new 2022 K1600s for sale at very discounted prices. We are just past the prime spring selling season. I figure that it's only a matter of time until BMW discontinues the model especially with the big touring editions of the R18 that have been introduced. Mine is a 2013 model that I purchased recently with 80,000 km. It's been well looked after and I get the impression that it's built like a tank. It's very good at long days on the highway and there's no other reason to buy one. I recently spent ten hours in the saddle for a long ride from Vernon BC to Edmonton Alberta. I'm 5'11", 190 lbs and 64 years old. I'm intimidated by the weight of the machine. I've accepted that at some point the bike will have a low speed drop. I have the luxury of having a KTM SMCR for getting around town and for short blasts on the highway. Someone who is younger and stronger than I am might consider a K1600 as an only bike but it's still a poor choice for anything other than the highway.

@BigBert Ай бұрын

That bike was a great looking bike. I am concerned about the navigation system from what you told me you were doing to end up in Ross is very concerning 😖😂🤣 I have to say it those photos with the storm clouds behind the bike are bloody awesome, well done 😎👌

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

To be fair, the nav went a bit haywire very early into that ride, then i saw the sign for Ross and remembered the bakery and thought, well thats our pie shop stop. Glad you liked the pics with the clouds, i think that was taken at Swansea

@BigBert Ай бұрын

@@BikerTorque yep Swansea 👌

@MannyScoot 19 күн бұрын

I owned at 1250 RT and went back to a Honda ST1300 ...... the ST1300 is something else......Like riding on a cloud ......

@BikerTorque 19 күн бұрын

What didn’t you like about the R1250RT? I haven’t ridden the Honda, but would love to try one at some point.

@flamhit Ай бұрын

Excellent review, Tassy looks like a brilliant ride. Q. The mirrors on that RT look like they are very low, or was it a camera optical delusion ??

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

A. Tassie was awesome, and definitely a delusion.🤣🤣🤣

@adv_jaco7883 Ай бұрын

Agree with your words. If you are planning on riding dirt then the GS is the one. The off roading is a gimmick to me, taking a GS really off road is really challenging. Service forest roads and dirt roads is maybe already too much for any regular GS rider. I choose an RT over a GS for that exact reason, I dont have any dirt to play around nearby so the RT is a much better handling machine on the tarmac. It has a shorter wheelbase and the 17 front inch tire is way better on the road than the 19' on the GS. Weather protection is excellent too. And the big plus of the RT, you feel like a moto cop while riding it! and they even wave at you when you pass them. Amazing stance, big but nimble and super sporty. Put it on Dynamic Mode and ride it like a cop!

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

How good is Dynamic mode, loved it. Thanks for watching, glad to hear you are loving your RT

@davidbrooks2119 22 күн бұрын

I’ve owned several RTs including an R1250RT. Fantastic bike and tons of power. I liked my R1200 GSA better from the overall riding experience. Could never find comfort with my riding position on the 1250RT. My 2004 R1150RT was the most comfortable but I hated the servo brakes.

@BikerTorque 21 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing, yes have heard the servo brakes on the R1150 were an issue for many.

@MrSynchronise 9 күн бұрын

Great review thanks! I own a R1250RT and absolutely love it! I am in NSW and thinking about taking the RT to Tassie later this year. How well did the Spirit of Tasmania crew look after the RT you had? Any damage from the tie down process?

@BikerTorque 9 күн бұрын

Hey Ross, thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it. The Spirit of Tassie crew were excellent, easy onboarding sequence and tie down was done with great care, no issues whatsoever.

@MrSynchronise 9 күн бұрын

Thanks for the fast response. 👍

@craigconway7906 Ай бұрын

On my 4th rt,there brilliant,just to let you know regarding the navigation,you can plan a route using the mottorad app on your phone and you can add waypoints on your chosen route,once you’ve sussed how to use it properly it’s really easy

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Maybe I’m just getting old and impatient because I found the app a punish. Thanks for watching, and agree overall they are brilliant bikes. Which model did you start with?

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

It would be interesting to hear how they have advanced over the years.

@craigconway7906 Ай бұрын

@@BikerTorque started with 1150 then the very first 1200 in 05,twin cam 1200 in 2010,current 1250 purchased in 2022,had other bikes in between,the current model is by far the best but 2010 twin cam was a great bike and a fair bit lighter,personally I think the current model is probably the best all round motorcycle you can buy

@andremoller3639 Ай бұрын

Great review. I'm a GSA rider and looking to add a second bike. While in Portugal 2 weeks ago I rented an RT and really enjoyed it. Comfortable, loves the curves and handles better than a GS in the twisties. I did not like the BMW app and wish they would provide the option of Android Auto instead. The RT will most likely be my additional bike.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Great to hear you enjoyed the RT, it would make one hell of a second bike

@russspeiser4540 Ай бұрын

"handles better than a GS in the twisties" I agree. On my third RT now, a 2021. Have rented and ridden several GS's (up to a 2023) and prefer RT handling and protection. Did 1000km in one day two weeks ago on a cool and rainy day in France but were totally fine on the RT.

@rossstanford316 Ай бұрын

@@russspeiser4540 I second that. Don't get me wrong the GS handles really well, but the RT is wonderful.

@stevecarr323 21 күн бұрын

I'd love to ride my R1250RT from Sydney to Melbourne. Only problem is that I live in Washington state, USA....

@BikerTorque 21 күн бұрын

Lol, it would be a bit of a trek. Maybe Washington State to New Orleans for you…

@trailingarm63 Ай бұрын

If you live in Australia the RS could arguably be the best choice. In the UK you need weather protection which makes the RT a clear winner. The RT is also probably better for a pillion & luggage, and the slightly more upright riding position suits most older riders. The GS is just a pretend off-roader. Barring rally riders who is going to take one properly off road and risk dropping it? If you avoided bankruptcy from the cost of repairs, you'd still be in hospital getting your hernia repaired after trying to recover it. I chose a 2019 RT because I wanted conventional dials and the separate satnav housing - couldn't be arsed with the current TFT screen, BMW app & phone link, etc.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

I’ve ridden the RS, and to be honest, I did love it but would take an RT ever day if the week, certainly sporty enough.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Agree, regarding the GS, I can’t see to many people doing serious off roading on them. We do have a 1300GS at the moment, wow, just wow, what a bike, can’t wait to see the R1300 RT and if the rumours are true it will have a brand new dual / automatic transmission system, a first for BMW, surprised it’s taken them this long to develop one.

@lestersmyth692 Ай бұрын

I chose a 2019 RT for exactly the same reason, old school dials never age ….. 👍

@peterdempsey9146 Ай бұрын

Hi, good review , I have a k1600GT but thinking of buying a1250rt after having a test ride on one, Be great to see a direct comparison…

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

I will see if we can get one, I don’t think BMW Australia have one in the press fleet anymore, but might be able to get one from the dealer.

@martyllanos73 19 күн бұрын

The RT is a great bike. Smooth with great wind protection, but I would never buy one. My legs are too long for the leg position. On long rides it’s not comfortable for me. The GS for me is the perfect bike. Same power train and a much better seating position for long rides. The added benefit of being able to ride unimproved roads on the GS makes it an ideal bike for me.

@BikerTorque 19 күн бұрын

Out of interest how tall are you? Agree the GS is a very good all rounder. We have just had the R1300GS for a few weeks, great bike also.

@martyllanos73 19 күн бұрын

@@BikerTorque I’m 6ft tall or about 183cm. Age has something to do with it too. When I was in my 20’s I could ride a sport bike all day long. Now that I’m 51 I find my knees and hips don’t like the extreme angles for very long.

@BikerTorque 19 күн бұрын

@@martyllanos73 I’m hearing you, have just turned 50

@Moto_APT Ай бұрын

I'm lucky to have a 2018 GS and an 2019 RT and more often my bike of choice has been the RT. Love the looks of the GS, but as you say I won't take my own bike worth 17k off road. Also, starting to appreciate how easy it is to get on and off the RT. Most importantly my wife prefers the RT as a pillion, says the GS is terrible.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

We’ve got the R1300GS at the moment, awesome bike, but can’t wait to see that engine in the RT. Love both but still the RT for me. Thanks for watching.

@malcolmhansen8276 Ай бұрын

Great specific review. My concern with the RT is that the great weather protection may be too much in a hot climate. Do you think you would get enough airflow on a 35 degree day? I’m a Kiwi, and that’s the perfect bike for touring NZ, but I now live in Perth and hence my concerns. Thanks.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Air flow is not an issue, just drop the screen, I reckon it would be fine.

@Rufus-OG Ай бұрын

These are the best bikes but you do cook on hot summers days. Lowering the screen only adds air to your helmet and the rest of you stays hot. Amazing bikes for everything but the hottest part of summer.

@alp3781 24 күн бұрын

So, I went to look at one, cause the new style called me a bit. I don't really care much anymore for BMW bikes, after 2 K1600 with all kind of crazy issues. By the time they gave me a proposal out the door price, I was able to get a new Goldwing DCT Tour out the door priced cheaper than the RT. So, I went with the Honda. Unbelievable bike.

@BikerTorque 23 күн бұрын

That’s surprising that the Goldwing came in under the R1250RT. Out of interest, what issues did you have with the K1600? I haven’t ridden one but keep hearing mostly very positive things about the bike. Thanks for watching

@alp3781 23 күн бұрын

@@BikerTorque The RT is friendlier in city riding. The wing is a tank, however I would say now, after owning one, no regrets for even city riding. The K's both ate a bit of oil which its know on them. Both of them, out of no where, always had some kind of electrical/sensor issues. If you don't own the maint. reset tool, you need to run to the dealer to clear them. The Grand America was a different story. Got it new, back in 18, once reached around 12k miles, all kind of electrical problems. It was not a Lemon bike, was told. Moreover, handlebar was always slightly pushing to the left. Was also speed limited heavily. The GA hated riding between 2 trucks, the dirty air issue would wobble the bike and that was crazy, than big recall on the gear issue, than if you use reverse mode, you better not shut her down in reverse. It could be bad news. On top of that, in hot days, this bike boils in stop and go traffic. Just was not impressed anymore. Just too much for one rider to take. I just wanted to ride and not worry if tomorrow the check engine light will be on. Not for me. With the wing, I just ride and ride and ride and never once, once to the dealer with even a tiny issue, zero, nothing.

@couttsy222 Ай бұрын

9:20 - The ultimate LADIES hooligan bike, thank you very much!!!! (For gentlemen as well, of course). Slight correction regarding intended use of the GS -- It's not so much for riding "off road" (although some do) but it is the perfect ALL ROADS tourer, whether sealed, gravel or even a bit gnarly. Great review of the RT. 👍

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, yea it is a bit of a hooligan bike

@couttsy222 Ай бұрын

Yep, my wife thinks so, too -- she loves hers! (I've got a 1250GSA which definitely WON'T be getting traded in on a 1300GS -- I look forward to watching your review of the 1300.)

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

@@couttsy222nice couple of boxers in your garage, good stuff. Have you seen the R20 concept bike, looks like a beast.

@couttsy222 Ай бұрын

Thanks -- they keep the other two older boxers company 🙂 Yes, was watching the R20 concept earlier. Can't accuse BMW of at least trying!

@petersmith2325 Ай бұрын

Value for money k1600gtse every time. 😁👍

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Would love to ride one at some point

@whatsstefon Ай бұрын

As far as Beemers go, I like the old stuff. But if I was going to go full grey nomad on bikes, I think this would be it. Same sentiment with the Goldwing. However, the servicing is unnecessarily complicated (expensive). The BMW is easy to maintain in comparison. And plus, Honda is more boring to ride than a BMW. But it’s a close call. 😅

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Stef, nothing boring about a boxer my friend. Perfect bike for a grey nomad biker though.

@albertol1529 Ай бұрын

I’m probably the only defender of the BMW app in the bike world. I find it excellent, and adding waypoints is easy as hell. The only issue is turning off notifications and putting on do not disturb. If you do both, you won’t ever drop the connection. The navigation is perfect and simple. To add waypoints: 1) search for destination (using the map icon from main screen) use postal code or name 2) select your destination 3) on left at the bottom click the waypoint icon (map with dotted line and waypoint sign (DOH!!!) 4) choose from drop down (set as start point or set as destination/waypoint) 5) once set choose route type, fast/winding/etc on central button at bottom 6) to add another waypoint click + icon (top right of dialogue box) 7) use postal code, name or icon ribbon bar with categorised POIs (petrol, food, etc) 8) click floppy disk icon to name and save route 9) when connected to bike, go to nav screen and saved rides 10) become a good biking journo by reading manuals and instructions so you can inform the audience better

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Hey thanks for the info, shall try and get that working next time I get a BMW with a nav. Just got the record, I’m actually not a journo, the KZfaq channel is just a hobby. Thanks so much for the support.

@albertol1529 Ай бұрын

@@BikerTorque I’m really sorry for being an arse. I’d just had a to do with someone. The review was great and I liked the format. I’ve subscribed.

@murrayfisher9663 Ай бұрын

How did you go with the seat comfort? I have just finished a West to East and back 8,500km, and found it ordinary. The rest( except nav app) was fantastic.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Pretty sure I had the standard seat and have to say, absolutely no issue with comfort for me.

@porcobianco Ай бұрын

Greetings from southern Finland. I'm currently on my third RT (MY21) and even though the stock seats have been sorta OK, three years ago I decided to get a Russel Day-Long tractor style saddle. It was the best investment ever. Now I can easily ride multi-day trips, and seat comfort is no longer an issue. The new seat felt a tad high at bat, but it did sag within a thousand miles or so, as advertised. Since Russel replaces the stock padding w/ their own stuff (you can choose to retain the old heating element), I went ahead and bought a salvage seat from Holland and sent it over to California. This made it possible for me to continue riding while they were working on the saddle. They have a pretty long waiting list. I am not sure whether old R1200RT seats are plug and play for 1250s, but if they are, they can probably be bought cheaply from salvage companies. After all, you only need to send the frame to Russel .

@davekintz7170 Ай бұрын

Good review......... Sadly, the reliability for the newer BMW's has not been very good. Even problems with the driveshafts!

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Thanks for that. I know of an issue with the R18 driveshaft leak, nothing major though, no issue with my R18 so far which is pleasing.

@chrischassey4849 Ай бұрын

K1600GT or GTL? So you are correct, if you are not going to go in dirt, the GS is a looks bike and the RS is the bike you should buy. If you want more power and can handle some more weight, then consider a K16.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Would love to try the K1600 at some point

@AlenDzinic-pj2uz Ай бұрын

good friend

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Thanks for the visit

@antoniofigueiredo2037 Ай бұрын

Hello. Have you consider trying out the CFMOTO 650GT? Probably the ONLY middleweight GTourer on the market.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

No, haven’t spoken to CF Moto yet, hearing good things about there bikes though.

@dnbanb Ай бұрын

Im a GS rider only because I ride offroad. If i didnt, or when i no longer want to, the RT is my next move

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Makes sense to be on a GS if going off road. Are you talking dirt and gravel roads or full on outback adventure riding? Thanks for watching.

@dnbanb Ай бұрын

@BikerTorque believe it or not I ran an enduro race on it a few months back. Up till then, fire roads and some motocross tracks. I finished last but i didn't care. My goal was to try and I did. No doubt the gsa looked crazy out there next to dirt bikes and dual sports but man did i have a blast. Nothing like feeling that boxer power pulling you up hills over boulders or getting 600lbs airborne. Worst part was having to pick the heavy beast up every time I washed out. After 45 min i had nothing left in the tank...which is why i finished last lol

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

@@dnbanb and that’s what life’s all about, having a crack. You finished and that’s the main thing, although not sure I’d be keen to take a GS full on Enduro.

@dnbanb Ай бұрын

@BikerTorque no doubt was probably one of the hardest physical things ive ever done. Enjoying your channel from the US btw. Keep up the great content

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

@@dnbanb cheers mate, we’ve just handed back the R1300GS, that video will be up soon, no way I ever go Enduro on it, graded dirt and gravel yes. Glad to hear you are enjoying the channel, we are really enjoying producing it.

@RoadsOfOz Ай бұрын

That app is so frustrating that I went back to a satnav on my GS.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Yep, totally. Have you heard the rumours about the automatic transmission BMW are developing which we will likely see in the 1300 cc version of this bike?

@RoadsOfOz Ай бұрын

@@BikerTorque not yet. But not surprised. As Honda has one as an option on the Africa Twin.

@legolwa 29 күн бұрын

I am selling my r1200GS because my r1100rt does just fine for my touring. I'd rather use my cash on a Harley cruiser for local riding with a lot of torque.

@BikerTorque 28 күн бұрын

If it’s a torquey cruiser your after check out the R18

@darrylbrooks7175 29 күн бұрын

Wait ...40k for a 1250? The K1600 is only 30k!!! Make it make sense!!!

@BikerTorque 27 күн бұрын

@Simulera 12 күн бұрын

Because you want to take a 3000 mile trip and go fast and carry stuff. Plus you don’t feel any need to actually look at your motorcycle, just ride it.

@BikerTorque 11 күн бұрын

And that’s pretty much what we said in the video

@Simulera 11 күн бұрын

@@BikerTorque true, I apparently was summarizing! But one other thing about all modern BMWs, including the venerable RT, is that if you want/need to work on your own bike they are no longer the best choice. It’s been true a pretty long time now. Hard to recall when BMWs came with comprehensive owners manuals and a pretty reasonable tool set. Very hard actually, I am 71. But they did. Now BMW have made that very hard to do by many separate, but jointly effective, approaches to the engineering, execution and distribution of the products. It changes the whole notion of motorcycling. Other makers do it too, but not so extensively, I would say, as BMW. Anyway that could be another reason not to get one for your road burner. Getting stuck in a remote place with an error code, no tool, no manual, no dealer, etc etc, is a drag. The thing is, passing through all those remote places Between somewhere and somewhere else is the whole point of riding. For me at least.

@Texas2Tires Ай бұрын

Nice video. I have a 2020 R 1250 RS and love it so much. That boxer with the shift-cam technology is a torque beast. I recently did a complete titanium Akrapovic exhaust and a BrenTune from BT Moto, which has transformed the bike. If you want to hear what the tune has done for me bike, check out the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtSHnNBmr8jJe4k.htmlsi=JIifJ0OGx_Km8Ws5 Can't wait to check out the 1300 boxer when it gets to the R 1250 R, RS and RT. I understand the quick shifter is more smooth on that 1300 boxer.

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Can confirm the quick shifter is much smoother on the 1300GS….but it’s still a boxer quick shifter. Shall check out your video.

@Ultra54able 4 күн бұрын

We want Android Auto or Carplay. Simple.

@BikerTorque 4 күн бұрын

Yes agree, Apple car play would be ideal

@london_biker6177 Ай бұрын

Some lard*rse rides one of these to the parking bay I commute to. It takes up the space of two bikes, it's the size of a Gold Wing. Just ride a GS/RS and don't be selfish lol

@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Lol, gold.

@Supernaut2000 Ай бұрын

We Canadians will NEVER use this navigation as it is very expensive to have data in the USA. What was wrong with the previous Garmin GPS? I have NO idea! Thus I will NEVER buy this bike with this stupid navigation/screen.

@BikerTorque 29 күн бұрын

Really, I didn’t think mobile data was all that much these days. I certainly never go anywhere near my limit here in Australia

@kenny4k 29 күн бұрын

You can download the maps so don't need to use data

@BikerTorque 29 күн бұрын

@@kenny4k great point. In fact, I think you have to download the maps beforehand, forgot about that.

@BlueRidgeRider 21 күн бұрын

I would never buy a bike this great!😂

@rezaulbari3404 Ай бұрын

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@BikerTorque Ай бұрын

Thanks

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