Yamcha buu saga >super perfect cell and I will stand by that

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@@OmegaBlack999 I appreciate that Bro. Thank you for being here and watching the video.

why do they de montize your videos? and btw thanks for this content... Yamcha is dope af and dbz kinda did him dirty. Wish they would make the other members fo the z team relevent again.

You overrated Yamcha, the androids thought it was Goku because Yamcha’s power level is above 5 which is above average human power level and that’s very uncommon on Earth. The androids immediately realized that it’s just Yamcha

​@@TK11223man just admit you're a hater and stop the bs

@@CeeDoubleU They aren't completely wrong, 19 and 20 had some major errors in their calculations. They stopped tracking Goku's progress after the Saiyan saga so they didn't know about all his gravity training, the stuff on Namek, or the 3 years of training the put in to battle said androids. The last real time they had any measure on Goku would have put his base power at around 8,000. I'm sure they took into account he would have trained and gotten stronger but I doubt they would have calculated it to be in the literal millions area, the last official Goku power we got was 3 million against Frieza and I'm assuming Yamcha would have easily been around that by the time of the androids

He provided a logical reason and facts, and you respond by calling him a hater and providing no actual argument. Great logic.

Yamcha deserves it anyway​@@CeeDoubleU

Legit, it killed itself in order to kill him. Piccolo was able to kill raditz despite being much weaker

​@@gwilkes5325with the help of goku and special beam cannon..

We just got a call from what it is. They’re basically DBZ haters. anybody whom actually read the manga or watched the anime entirely. Will fall in love with the story. Because we love the fights but the story is what drew us in.

@@shtreberka3642 exactly, by concentrating all his power into one thing, he was able to kill him, the saibaman, did the same thing pretty much

@@gwilkes5325 The anime didn't help by extending the fight and making it seem more even. In the manga, IIRC, Yamcha shit all over that Saibaman.

SAME

this is why I mained humans in dbxv2. They were fun to play in XV2.

Akira Toriyama is just not a very good writer.

@@isildurs-shack He writes shonen , after all.

@@isildurs-shack Wrong. Blame Toriyama's editors. They made him push Saiyans and phase out humans to sell more merch. Toriyama literally wanted to end the series after the Namek saga but they made him keep going so they could make more money.

Let’s make this a thing

@@iseeopenings3921 Play DBK. (Dragonball Kakorot)

He can do BETTER than Bulma, dawg.

@@iseeopenings3921 Yamcha has NEVER been unfaithful to Bulma onscreen, but Bulma HAS gotten jealous and angry and distant from Yamcha onscreen in Dragon Ball, and they got back together.

Hell, you can argue that Bulma emotionally cheated on him multiple times. Yamcha’s character wasn’t assassinated. It was annihilated

It showed that the whole training they did was useless... c'mon, they should have been able to kill Nappa....a nobody..... I grew up with these character. Imagine You, Z fans, watching cabba come up and just killing every character you liked...... how'd you feel? No, not Beerus, Cabba, or someone even less important.....

@@abhabh6896 Nappa is not a nobody. He's an elite Saiyan and easily in the top ten of Frieza's army at the time.

@@abhabh6896bro is onto nothing Nappa was a huge deal at the time

Nappa never was a nobody. Compared to Vegeta he was no match but almost no saiyan was.

@@abhabh6896 bro was yapping and now he’s all quiet 😂

By that time Yamcha had cheated on Bulma and she had broken up with him.

@@El3ctr0Lun4 and it was stupid... but then again he didnt deserve to die

@@El3ctr0Lun4 the way Trunks phrased "She got tired of him playing the field" implies he did it multiple times too.

Lunch was so broken up about Tenshin that she basically disappeared from the story.

women ☕

Ignoring all of the filler (fighting Recoome etc.) so canon paladins won't kill me, Yamcha is still at least as powerful as the strongest low-class Saiyan warriors, which is pretty impressive considering Saiyans were a feared warrior race with few equals and a far-reaching reputation. I can't seem to find any reliable non-filler indication of exactly how strong he ever became, but it stands to reason he got at least somewhat stronger than he was vs the Saibamen over the years even with his retirement from the martial arts world. It's probably reasonable to put him at or near "Elite Saiyan" level at his peak. Perhaps he's well beyond that and I just can't find the tidbit of canon data to back that up. If you go by filler the dude is stronger than a member of the Ginyu force at least, and far far stronger than that at best. Stronger than Recoome is an absurd level of strength that, pre-Super Saiyan era, would have put him on the short list of strongest beings in the universe. At any rate the man is a beast and would wipe the floor with 99% of superheroes and other martial characters in the world of fiction.

Getting your girlfriend stolen by the guy who helped kill you making you Forever Alone: The Movie.

Toyable's Fan Manga becomes legit like Xicor (The Zamasu Saga) Black=Xicor Zamasu=Evil West Supreme Kai

While Goku and Vegeta are on Beerus planet, Yamcha reveals that he learned the Spirit Bomb and defeats the villian by manipulating it the way he did with his own Spirit Ball technique.

Didn’t he get a special where someone swapped bodies with Yamcha and trained to make sure all the mistakes Yamcha made didn’t happen?

@@True2ChainzLilWayne That was the fan manga that caught Toryable fan manga called my life as yamcha that Akira Toriyama found intresting that he got to be his appertance.

Bro just the thought of the three of them working together against someone in the tournament of power as Roshi watches them with a proud look on his face is already making me a little teary eyed.

@@vampdeluxe77 In the NmcoBandai Verse He was in the Tournament of time Event could of got Married use shenron to make himself Immortal

Yea

It's wild that Master Roshi got into the tournament of power but Yamcha didn't. At this point, Yamcha should be far stronger than Roshi. Roshi struggled against kid Goku and didn't stand a chance against King Picollo. And we never see Roshi ever training in his old age, so at most we can presume that he largely retains the same skill and power levels throughout the series, if not downright declined with age and not training. Yamcha on the other hand consistently trained, he gave Tien a difficult time, and after that trained with Korin, trained with Popo and Kami, and continued to train for many years during DBZ. He was likely at his peak during the Android saga, and by that point I hope we can all agree that any of the Z fighters dwarfed Master Roshi's in terms of power, fighting skills, and Ki control. Remember that it took Roshi 50 years to develop the Kame Hame Ha, the only Ki blast that he can use, yet the others can use a plethora of Ki attacks. I don't know, I get that Roshi is a beloved character, but at this point he shouldn't be able to compete with the best fighters in the multiverse. He should act more like a wise mentor rather than a fighter. His best years are behind him, and even then he was never all that strong. At most we can probably say he was around Tao Pai Pai's level, or maybe around Tien's level from when he was first introduced back in DB.

You just made me picture all four of them hitting Jiren with Kamehamehas at the same time; it's a wonderful image.

wait when is this?

@@dane1382: They’re talking about Heroes, where Yamcha meets an alien female named Vidro, whom he saved from Hit (anime) or Meta Cooler (manga) and she became smitten with him to the point of marriage. Shortly after Demigra is destroyed, Vidro tells Yamcha that their wedding will be in 1200 years (The Glass Tribe’s age of consent). So it’s ultimately impractical.

yeah

I agree. As someone who watched this since the og , I love Yamcha, Tien and Lunch, I'm really sad when they just becime background characters as the story progressed further. And Toriyama forgot Lunch too.

Yajirobe was never a top guy though. He was a relatively tough guy who lived in the forest and survived by hunting and fishing. He gets his ass kicked by one of King Piccolo's henchmen before Goku has to intervene. But from then on, he just sticks around Korin so that he can eat lots of Senzu beans so that he never has to go hungry again.

OG DB is absolutely great and deserves more credit. Had tons of fun with it in my childhood both reading the manga (which was very popular in Brazil) and watching the anime (which as also extremely popular in Brazil)

That's something that really irks me to be honest. I started with the OG anime and only later watched Z. Yamcha was one of my favorites by the end. So were Krillin and Tien. Ok, Krillin still has his moments but after the Freeza saga, Goku and Vegeta basically became the main characters with Gohan having his moments here and there. Even Piccolo was irrelevant for a while there. All the world building, all that character development flushed down the toilet.

How? If you mind if I ask

​@@iseeopenings3921master roshi full power can vaporize the moon and scans of him being able to power up a star in og db. Yamcha is way above that roshi during saiyan saga.

One Punch Man is, feats-wise, equivalent to Super Perfect Cell

​@@memelord8706Yeah that and calculations too

Maybe instead of wishing for a power boost he wishes his potential to be unlocked and that what has been holding him back is removed. Allowing him to gain the power boost in an earned and respectful way.

What Abt piccolo being the next god after dendae?

​@@JoseSantos-xz1zcnone would have happened because namekians live longer than humans, and Piccolo is a warrior type, he doesn't wanna be a guardian

@@shtreberka3642 true true, but I feel like yamcha wouldn't want to be the next kami yk, I think if any humans would it would be someone like roshi or Tien or possibly krillin but only to keep him relevant

Excatly. I like your point on master roshi flexing on jiren....this means yamcha can show some skills too and look good. i swear the only way for humans to quickly level up is if they get Ui. we know Ui isnt a saiyan only move and anyone can do it so why not?

As a human, surviving 300x gravity is fucking ludicrous.

I honestly would prefer a rebeoot where the power gaps aren't anywhere near as wide, the cell and freeza sagas overlap massively; and it is gohan, not Goku, that becomes the first super saiyan against freeza, in place of him doing it vs cell And there's only ever one super saiyan, Gohan. That's it. no others. And he goes super saiyan when goku dies at the hands of freeza, who is invading earth to use the dragon balls. Also, on top of all that, the DB's are nerfed into the ground and can't resurrect people This setting would raise the stakes on each individual fight, would make it so that while the likes of Tien and Yamcha would still get slammed by nappa and vegeta, they would at least stand a chance. Also the ONLY characters powerful enough to destroy planets would be Perfect Cell (who would, instead of time travelling, simply have been designed many years earlier than he was in the original DBZ), SSJ Gohan, Freeza, and Beerus. That's it. Nobody else. Buu could be retconned completely, his arc was stupid anyway. But yeah, this would mean that human characters, along with the likes of the Ginyu force and lesser androids, would never become completely irrelevant.

@@user-zv2zz6kn6w You lost me at the Goku dying to Frieza nonsense. I can get Gohan being the only SS but why would Gohan be worried about his Dad dying when he has already died and came back before, his Dad is also amongst the strongest beings in the known universe, and they are currently in possesion of the Dragon Balls?

@@DragoonCenten Nah you didn't read it Goku would not have died before, this would be his only death The Dragonballs would also be nerfed, and unable to resurrect people - that power just takes away the impact of any deaths of characters. If we're going to criticise Disney for "fake killing" characters so much (which we all do) then why do we do the same thing with dragonballs? Consequences for failure give meaning to the triumphs. This hypothetical that i'm suggesting is a 100% reboot - completely new story, completely new everything. Total restart.

Also, in addition to what i just said - I lost you at Gohan reacting to his dads death... but Akira Toriyama did *not* lose you at Gohan reacting to Android !@#$ing 16 dying? He didn't even know who the !@#$ Android 16 was. He just met him!@@DragoonCenten

True. I'm glad he low-balled Yamaha here. Halibu was at least as strong as Scholar said but let's remember that Halibu was basically in the league of Pikkon. Pikkon was strong enough to one shot Perfect Cell in the Buu saga. I'm not saying that Yamcha is near perfect cell level but if we compare Pikkon's growth to the theoretical growth of Halibu, Yamcha could have reasonably gotten MUCH stronger than the Goku that fought with Pikkon. After all, Halibu is the kind of guy to train 24/7 just like Pikkon. You can say that Pikkon grew much faster because of training with Goku but there is no way Halibu wouldn't have been grown a decent amount in all that time.

Writers care about good story not power scaling .

@@finnmarr-heenan2397 I mean.....You're talking about dragon ball here....idk if you should say that Akira is caring about the Buu saga story quality xD

Very true the humans, the other universe fighters, the other world fighters not to mention the other planets in each universe being explored would be nice to see.

ah yes, because everyone applauded the power-up fire sale of the Buu saga. Repeating it on a stupidly large scale would surely bring critical acclaim ....not.

​@@user-zv2zz6kn6w You'd rather have it be the Goku and Vegeta show forever? L take. If we had one bargain bin sale another won't hurt.

@@DragoonCenten ​ I'll copy-pasta because it's easier, but this is what I said in reply to another similar comment: "I honestly would prefer a rebeoot where the power gaps aren't anywhere near as wide, the cell and freeza sagas overlap massively; and it is gohan, not Goku, that becomes the first super saiyan against freeza, in place of him doing it vs cell And there's only ever one super saiyan, Gohan. That's it. no others. And he goes super saiyan when goku dies at the hands of freeza, who is invading earth to use the dragon balls. Also, on top of all that, the DB's are nerfed into the ground and can't resurrect people This setting would raise the stakes on each individual fight, would make it so that while the likes of Tien and Yamcha would still get slammed by nappa and vegeta, they would at least stand a chance. Also the ONLY characters powerful enough to destroy planets would be Perfect Cell (who would, instead of time travelling, simply have been designed many years earlier than he was in the original DBZ), SSJ Gohan, Freeza, and Beerus. That's it. Nobody else. Buu could be retconned completely, his arc was stupid anyway. But yeah, this would mean that human characters, along with the likes of the Ginyu force and lesser androids, would never become completely irrelevant." No, I do not want it to be the "Goku and Vegeta show" forever, that is not my take, and your take is an L take for misinterpreting my take haha

Great idea

Wow so you're saying that even his maturity has insane growth speeds >.>

Also the fanbase is the main reason why GT's non-canon, because if it wasn't then Toriyama wouldn't have said anything.

GT was also trash, so I don't see a problem.

@@DragoonCenten I too see that to a certain extent, I wouldn't say it outright deserved it though since people still like SSJ4 so much, myself included

Yamcha was never on the level of Tien nor is as close to Goku as Krillin. Thats why they were showcased more in super. Yamcha in Dragonball had a little more shine but he wasn’t great

@@dominiquerobinson8888 Or maybe it's because some of you believe he doesn't deserve it? He'll never get any screentime if we keep bullying him into obscenity, and I know that many would still be ok with that by the next decade over...

Vegeta: No

Thank you so much for the power up, Sir! You're a Legend!

Are you talking about DBZ Elsewhere by Aremke/RMK, because I love that fan-manga as well. Unfortunately it hasn't had an update for 4 years, but it's still a good read.