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Why you hate modular synthesizers - Kick Drums

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Why You Hate Modular Synths

Why You Hate Modular Synths

Күн бұрын

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@JoeJohnston-taskboy
@JoeJohnston-taskboy 2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to figure out whether your videos are meant to inspire other modular players or to keep the rest of us from making a terrible musical instrument mistake. Either way, thanks for sharing!
@RisetotheBottom00
@RisetotheBottom00 2 жыл бұрын
A video telling me why I hate modular synths taught me how to make a really nice kick. Very clever sir
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamit!!
@aleksdizhe
@aleksdizhe 4 ай бұрын
​@@whyyouhatemodularsynths😂😂😂😂😂😂
@samhein321
@samhein321 2 жыл бұрын
these aren't just good tutorials, but also an interesting watch for people outside the synth world on how synthesizing electronic drums work.
@fabianmartinez31283
@fabianmartinez31283 9 ай бұрын
Cool approach to teach modular synthesis, I love it, thank you for sharing knowledge
@mood9240
@mood9240 2 жыл бұрын
All the Modular synth demos on KZfaq are great, so I've been sampling them and using them in Octatrack. And of course it's free!
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many drones and fart sounds to sample.
@vinylarchaeologist
@vinylarchaeologist 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I love you ‘Bad Gear’ approach to tutorials 😎
@snorrevonflake
@snorrevonflake 2 жыл бұрын
Quite expensive kickdrum, and fun anecdote: after spending 10 K on eurorack i recently bought a volca drum and within minutes made stuff (slow noisescapes) i have not yet achieved with the modular.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same when I bought a drum. Within minutes I was able to achieve things I hadn’t been able to with a guitar.
@BenColemanUK
@BenColemanUK 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you've saved me about £15,000 and 2 years of my time
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 Жыл бұрын
Good God. It's like when you see Deadmau5 studio and he has walls of hardware encompassing him but is on his computer using software synths and Cthulhu with LFO tool.
@murmurelamusique
@murmurelamusique 2 жыл бұрын
great vids about the frustration that can occur modular synth. personaly, i’m using a kickall from befaco and plugg it’s output to an attenuator, and then plug this output in a stereo in in my mixer, which is balances for external source. makes things much louder.
@MakingSoundMachines
@MakingSoundMachines 2 жыл бұрын
Love this secretly awesome tutorial : D
@StephenBrown85
@StephenBrown85 2 жыл бұрын
I went through a couple of different methods of doing kicks, first synthesising them like you did, then with some dedicated kick modules. Eventually I set my Disting to dual sampler mode and loaded a kick and snare sample into it which I stole from an old trance song. Since then I have never changed the mode on my Disting!
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
You should take that concept to it's logical conclusion. Computer and sample packs.
@StephenBrown85
@StephenBrown85 2 жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I've gone further than that - I just downloaded some music in mp3 format and now I don't have to do anything at all! Instant gratification!
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
@@StephenBrown85 You sir are a genius.
@benoftroy
@benoftroy 2 жыл бұрын
I've been staring at this 400 some odd HP worth of Eurorack modules sitting beside me wondering: "why do I hate you?" And now I know. THANK YOU!
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to have helped. You have entered the first of 30 steps.
@cryptout
@cryptout 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Obviously a good or bad kick is very style depended, or even taste if there is such a thing. The cool thing about knowing how to synthesize a kick is that if gives you more options. I would sample the result and maybe layer is or use it in Kick2 as a starting point.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
Cut to the chase. Buy a sample pack, a computer and be done with it. Synthesis is for chumps.
@VacancyOfDisco
@VacancyOfDisco 2 жыл бұрын
but then maybe you want some "roominess" to the kick. So then you need to add a noise source and send that to another vca opened up by another envelope, mixed in with the dirty sine wave before going to the final vca. but then you maybe want to add some gated reverb so then you need to send that final signal to a reverb and get another envelope and invert it to turn down the amount of reverb after the initial hit. and then.....
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for further proving the point.
@puyopuyoyo
@puyopuyoyo 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. I like how you progress from this sounds crap and why to what to do to fix it. Really easy to follow.
@markbooth
@markbooth Жыл бұрын
The point being made is that you can build anything from first principles and some people do exactly that with modular as a sound design workflow for importing into their DAW. Other people prefer a performance modular rig and you most certainly would not use this first principles set up for that, and just have dedicated modules for everything. Nice walkthrough of basic drum sound design though.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths Жыл бұрын
Hundreds of kick drum sample already exist. synthesizing kicks is foly.
@markbooth
@markbooth Жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths some people just enjoy their own sound design? I’m more of a module per voice and have no time for sh1t like thwt
@aleksdizhe
@aleksdizhe 3 ай бұрын
​@markbooth searching for a proper kick drum is so exhausting😂😂there are just loads of samples, I prefer designing them myself😂😂
@toonertik
@toonertik 8 ай бұрын
Actually.. that's what I rather like about modula.. yeah.. for sure it can be a pain in the ass.. but the joy I get when it all connects is.. worth it (for me) First I've seen of you, gonna give a follow for novelty ;-)))
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 8 ай бұрын
thanks for the follow and for appreciating my novel channel.
@wishbonebrewery
@wishbonebrewery 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! I'm just getting into Patching up my own Kicks, stop spoiling my fun! 😋
@guysmiley7289
@guysmiley7289 Жыл бұрын
If you replace one of those modules with a sampler then you can save the kick drum and have it for later. Also you got a cirklon next to your rack, that's probably where your kick triggers are coming from. ;-)
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths Жыл бұрын
Best get a Akai sampler i think. I don't know what that Cirk thing does, i found it in a skip bin and can't figure it out.
@guysmiley7289
@guysmiley7289 Жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I love your dedication to the bit.
@guysmiley7289
@guysmiley7289 Жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I own an Akai, a Deluge, and a Rossum Assimil8or in Eurorack. Hands down the Assimil8or wins. It is so fast to use.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths Жыл бұрын
@@guysmiley7289 Oh? In that case, maybe an E-mu E series sampler.
@guysmiley7289
@guysmiley7289 Жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I'll look into that. I can see a Proteus in my future.
@knobtwirlermusic
@knobtwirlermusic Ай бұрын
Love this ❤
@VocalChainsStudio
@VocalChainsStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds nice. DP0 makes a great drum voice.
@christophervincent77
@christophervincent77 2 жыл бұрын
I use eurorack for effects and modulation. My voices all come from drum machines and semi modular boxes. I'm pretty novice but this combo works for me (so far).
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
You should ditch the modular FX and m,odulation too.
@dillipphunbar7924
@dillipphunbar7924 9 ай бұрын
that title is as divisive as a doepfer A-160-2
@entertaintech4374
@entertaintech4374 9 ай бұрын
*DFAM has entered the chat
@Sound_ology
@Sound_ology 2 жыл бұрын
haha this is funny! Also kind of true. Pretty fun to design a kick on modular, may be worth sampling it to actually use it
@micowata
@micowata 2 жыл бұрын
IMHO, this is the most expansive (in hp) way to make a kick. Pinging filters is easier, I think, and requires only 1 trigger or gate and a filter. Take a filter with low-mid-high pass and take one or mix them to shape your kick as you wish. Most filters I know of are also sinewave oscillators. It sounds more natural to me than using a sine ocsillator since it gives also the decay envelope on amplitude AND frequency.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, There are many ways to make a crappy kick drum using a modular synth. Your way is one other way, maybe I’ll make a series on why you hate making kick drums with Modular synthesisers. A crappy kick drum synth off. Which method will synthesise the most rubbish kick?
@micowata
@micowata 2 жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Or the least efficient ways to make one ?
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
@@micowata Efficiency and Modular synths is the road to hell paved with Distings , Ornament & Crime and 2hp modules.
@jammystraub488
@jammystraub488 Жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths 😂🤣🤩
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I make my kicks either in software or with my Microwave.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
I usually only use my microwave for cooking Ramen but that is very creative.
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L 2 жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Yours probably costs a bit less than mine, but mine has a big red knob on it.
@spoonman9584
@spoonman9584 2 жыл бұрын
That's probably why one should either build a eurorack specialized towards percussion and drums and then do the same for other categorizations of instruments or... buy a drum machine.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it’s probably even better better to just use a computer and sample packs of played out 909 samples. Synthesis is over rated.
@vidret
@vidret 2 жыл бұрын
just use the same envelope, it sounds great. but yeah if simple kicks are what you want synthesizing them from scratch is a big ask.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah synthesizing any of it from scratch is futile. Just us an x0x sample. It’s clearly all that is needed since the 80s
@vidret
@vidret 2 жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths you are correct ofc, it is futile.
@kostantinosmag2986
@kostantinosmag2986 2 жыл бұрын
Great one nice
@teabreakbeats
@teabreakbeats 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I was going to buy some modules. Now I'm scared
@tukoijarrett9155
@tukoijarrett9155 Жыл бұрын
starting to wonder if im a masochist bc this didnt make me any less interested in modular
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths Жыл бұрын
You most certainly are.
@78thandSynth
@78thandSynth 2 жыл бұрын
I like it.
@maxmaxington5873
@maxmaxington5873 2 жыл бұрын
You based in Sydney or Melbourne?
@noisynois1670
@noisynois1670 Жыл бұрын
Normal que los odies,mezcla lo mejor de lo analógico y digital,por ejemplo,el moog subsequent 37 y haces bo.bom normales trap bass de la ostia y Big room o dubstep,y en VTS dentro del pc y si no te mola el xpert sleepers fh-2 automatizas desde el modulo al pc sin syntes de por medio solo un daw ,macho alguna vez tendrás que pasarlo a digital y con el xpert sleepers haces varios bombos,hats hit Crash congas ETS de mir formad y los usas normal y no los renderizes más solo cuando sea por analógico,así hago yo,bye
@Whistler-007
@Whistler-007 2 жыл бұрын
After watching your videos, FM Synthesis doesn't seem that complicated any more.
@TechnoByHubert
@TechnoByHubert 2 жыл бұрын
I dedicate 50+HP just for synthesizing a kick drum. :D Yea, I hate it as well.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your terrible story.
@massimookissed1023
@massimookissed1023 2 жыл бұрын
I'd wager all the modules used in those 50+HP cost more than an *actual* kick drum.
@TechnoByHubert
@TechnoByHubert 2 жыл бұрын
@@massimookissed1023 you bet. Doesn't even make an actual kick drum sound! Hate modular
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoByHubert that’s right. 50hp worth of kick drum modules are useless if they can’t make a kick drum. Especially if it doesn’t make a 909 kick, because that’s all you need.
@massimookissed1023
@massimookissed1023 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Arduino with Midi / CV / gate~trig input, -> stepper motor / servo with soft mallet, -> actual bass drum. 😀
@bennos9588
@bennos9588 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bros, check out the Entity Ultra-Kick from Steady State Fate. Instant kick. Sine waves are for nerds
@LukeKillen
@LukeKillen 2 жыл бұрын
While that seems like a step in the right direction, Modular synthesis is for nerds. Get a drum kit.
@bennos9588
@bennos9588 2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeKillen hahah or use both 😤
@octaviop.4870
@octaviop.4870 Жыл бұрын
yes. exactly this is why i gave up on eurorack.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths Жыл бұрын
Quiting synthesis makes life simpler and much more predictable.
@octaviop.4870
@octaviop.4870 Жыл бұрын
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Simpler and much predictable isn't always bad. Plus i didn't quit synthesis all together. I just quit eurorack. I still love my hardware synths.
@MelonSprout
@MelonSprout 9 ай бұрын
isn't synthesis the reason why many get into modular?
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 9 ай бұрын
Synthesis is for chumps. Sample packs is where it’s at.
@isweartofuckinggod
@isweartofuckinggod 8 ай бұрын
It's a synth, not a DAW.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 8 ай бұрын
Interesting. I'd never considered that.
@JorgBarrett
@JorgBarrett 9 ай бұрын
both kick sound the same
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 9 ай бұрын
All the more reason to use sample packs.
@cidst8
@cidst8 2 жыл бұрын
My bank account hates modular synths!
@VagPoop_
@VagPoop_ Жыл бұрын
8k views barely any likes...take the hint
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths Жыл бұрын
Irony is lost on so many.
@Hellseeker1
@Hellseeker1 Жыл бұрын
Got to spend more money bro, level up your game! J/K 🤣
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths Жыл бұрын
That was my first thought.
@berch4736
@berch4736 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂this was good
@claycowartisamazing
@claycowartisamazing 2 жыл бұрын
Why even make this video?
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
I make these videos as a warning to those who might slip into the perilous depths of synthesis. To attempt to give them a chance to escape the grips of modular synthesis, and guide them back to the righteous path of sample packs and drum machines.
@claycowartisamazing
@claycowartisamazing 2 жыл бұрын
​@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Righteous az fuk
@LukeKillen
@LukeKillen 2 жыл бұрын
@@claycowartisamazing Synthesis is for nerds.
@claycowartisamazing
@claycowartisamazing 2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeKillen Yeah, I can beat any of you up IRL. I won.
@whyyouhatemodularsynths
@whyyouhatemodularsynths 2 жыл бұрын
@@claycowartisamazing With your name being what it is, I'm not surprised that you think that.
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