Thank you Mike!

additionally, you can cancel the warranty anytime and they will refund you a pro-rated amount of months that were not used. but once you cancel it, you will not be able to add apple care + back,, so think before you cancel!

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The need for battery replacement within three years can vary greatly depending on individual usage patterns. As someone who doesn't use high-end MacBooks and prioritizes cost, I personally haven't encountered this issue within a three-year timeframe. While AppleCare provides extended coverage, it's important to remember that the standard one-year warranty is often supplemented by an additional year of warranty through credit card purchases. This extended warranty can be helpful, but it's worth noting that it might not cover all potential issues. It's also crucial to acknowledge that warranty coverage depends on the cause of the problem. Apple is not necessarily at fault for all device issues, as user behavior and accidental damage can also play a role. The butterfly keyboard case, which resulted in a class-action lawsuit, serves as an example of a specific design flaw recognized by Apple. Ultimately, the decision to opt for AppleCare and the frequency of battery replacement are personal choices based on individual needs and budget considerations. It's important to weigh the costs and benefits involved before making a decision.

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I bought applecare for iPhone when I was living in Korea because of “global” coverage. My phone broke after moving back to U.S and apple refused to fix my phone and told me to send my phone to Korea to get it fixed with me paying for all shipping and huge shipping time. I talked on phone customer service for hours and talked to upper management as well and they still refused to fix my phone. Global coverage is not always as I painfully learned

@@Dreamwunder I don't think iPhone is global coverage, but Macbook is.

@@Dreamwunder did you have the plus version or the standard? Because they fixed mine

@@justpassingby3409 plus. I talked over phone for hours with upper managers at apple too and all they could do is refund remaining applecare+. Basically threw away +$800 i spent on my phone

Well said my friend!

Paid for itself, but these were all manufacturing defects, its insane that the customer should ever have to cover that to begin with

That's true but before Australian consumer law came into effect I had no recourse except to appeal to Apple and at that time as there was no recall on the faulty GPU's. I used that laptop for 9 years.

Yes I remember the GPU Issues, had that on so many MBPs

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Laws if probability The best argument for AC+ is if you use it professionally and travel a lot. You don’t want to muck around local repair shops. Just drop by apple and they will give you a replacement laptop while their service your computer. That makes perfect sense why you should get AC+. Time is money and you can’t afford to run a business or make your living without your laptop. AC+ is definitely worth it in that instance and it’s a tax right off

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I would say for first gen product why not.

I totally understand!

Depending on your location, AppleCare+ is available in annual $149.99USD installments. However, from what I can tell, doing it this way can theoretically give you an infinite warranty as the disclaimer is "until canceled". Hope this helps!

@@RemyOrtiz mm I think Apple care only works for 3 years from the purchase date or initiation (which would be within 60 days of purchase) I think “until cancelled” means ‘whichever comes first’

@@erxfav3197 I got Applecare for my new iPad and in the store they said you have the option to renew it if you buy a fixed installment (1 year or 3 years) and it runs out. It also does go on theoretically forever (until cancelled/card declines) if you buy the monthly installment plan.

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Glad it was helpful!

It can be worth while. I would look the 15" MBP or a 14" MBP or even the 16" M1 Pro

I hear you!

I would not go that far ;) I am not always right but I try to get most of the information as accurate to the fact as much as possible.

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Thank you. So far the policy has been the same. Nothing much has changed

I am ok with my purple shirt ;)

@@ArtIsRight trust me. Time to move on.

naw, thanks for chiming in though.

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If you damage your device like cracking a display, Apple won't replace it free though they will replace your screen for a lower cost than if you didn't have Apple Care.

That is right, but having manufacturer defect extended warranty works has served me well in the past

@@ArtIsRight oh they extend the manufacturer defect warranty if you purchase AppleCare+?

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You can do that, but if you want to pay the least amount of money, I would go for the full 3 years at the beginning and then afterward you can renew it yearly. It is not much but it is a few coffee or a meal.

@@ArtIsRight Oh. Didn't know that was an option. BUT I'd have to visit an Apple store (of which there is none near here in 1000's of miles) or would an authorised Apple Repair shop be able to facilitate that?

Initial Apple Care + can be purchased with the device, if you didn't do that you can add it from the device within the first 60 days online. It is super easy. However, if you didn't do that and you are within 1 year of the purchase date, you would have to go to an apple store, bring the receipt along with the device in for a genius inspection to purchase the apple care +, at which point you would still have the option to choose 3 years lump sum or yearly. If you can buy apple care + from the device now you would have this option as well, no need to go to a store. I don't know your circumstance but this is how you can approach this. And at the end of the 3 years you would have 30 days to add the Apple Care + on a yearly renewal.

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Doesnt the machine come with At least a year warranty ??

@@stefan4831 it does, and 2 years in EU.

The one year limited warranty does not cover damage created from your action or misfortune... only manufacturing defects. Accidental damage coverage is essentially the value of the first year of AppleCare+ .

@@ajrc1987 great, that should cover unexpected manufacturing defects. That's why I don't get people find the insurance worthwhile for the first year. I would like to have it from year 4 onwards. Even then, never had an issue with any of my 5 apple computers so I would have wasted a nice MacBook worth of insurance. But that's the insurance dilemma I suppose

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did they repair it or give you a new macbook?

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They should but I would double check with Apple Before policy changes all the time

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Ditto!

I would call Apple Italy up and ask, Usually as far as my understanding goes, Apple Care + is world wide.

if you have apple care +, take it to the apple store or call them up. They will run a diagnostic and give you a co-pay price. It is not that bad. If it is just the display my guess is that the co pay is $129 or below, this is my guess, and this would all change based on the laptop, model year that you have.

the smart move would be to buy on day 59 or 60

Next time, you might want to ask for mail-in repair. It may not be available in all cases, but it is worth considering.

@@ArtIsRight if it was anything other than my MacBook or phone I’d probably consider mail in. But those two things would be greatly missed for 5-7 days. I have Apple care on my watches, AirPods and 3 iPads as well so if mail in is an option for those I probably would. I also had the misfortune recently of going to Best Buy for my Apple Pencil when it broke (my iPad Apple care covered it) and they were so difficult to deal with. I only went there because they were 20 minutes closer than Apple but I’ll never do that again.

Yeah I would not deal with Bestbuy, they are terrible. About Apple Care mail-in repair, it takes 24 hours to get a box out to you from the time you request it. Once you ship it, they use an overnight label, so it will get to the facility in less than 24 hours. The repair once it arrives is usually on the same day or overnight, and then they ship it back to you overnight, but I hear you.

Probably not, but I got one for mine anyways. what I found with the desktop Macs without screen is that there's less of a need for apple care +

Actually you can, same with the iPhone and iPad, watch etc. This is so new so by the time 3 years is up this might change again. Once you are done with the 2 or year coverage you have 60 days to buy into the annual plan.

I hear you, however, this has been a consistence practice for decades already. I would think of this as an extended warranty with privileges, many which you don't get with just a regular warranty. For instance, advanced replacement or mail in option on certain devices.

I personally would go with Apple for these computers. reason why is because of parts pairing. at least with apple you know that the repair will come from the source. As for theft, I would may be find a way to add the laptop to your insurance as a rider.

@@ArtIsRight You're very right. After assigning the insurance and by reading all the document from the SquareTrade insurance company at home, it was not clear about the coverage for a portable device, as the MBP. So, I sent them an email, and firstly they replied that couldn't find my policy (unprofessional answer), and asked me contact them through phone. Well, since I want to register the conversation in a email, I insisted and then they finally replied with the answers. For my big surprise, they told me exactly the opposite from what the retail store saleswoman has told me, in a nutshell, they replied that my policy doesn't not covers accidental damage outside my country, and that theft is not included in this policy. So, I'll opt for Apple's insurance service and never try third-party insurance companies for Apple products again.

Just buy it after from the iPad. In the settings it will tell you how many days you have left. This is a good way to deferred apple care coverage. you technically have 60 days from the first activation date to get apple care from the device. Afterwards you have to go to an apple store for inspection and this second method has to be done with in the first year of purchase.

@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the clear explanation sir 👏

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In the US, on most new Apple products, you get a free basic 1-year warranty ( parts and labor).

@Clark James the problem with statutory warranties is that you'll be dealing with the seller (not the manufacturer) and it is usually just covering manufacturing defects that existed when you bought the machine. If your device is more than half a year old, the seller will start to argue that it's a new flaw that wasn't present when you received the machine. As this is near impossible to prove, the 2 years statutory warranty is actually not worth all that much.

Sensible and my point exactly!

You make me want to get AC+

My understanding is yes, you have 60 days once your apple care + is over to reenrolled the device in AppleCare+ Subscription plan. Again policy down the road may change but as of now and to the best of my knowledge yes.

For me I the + is a good advantage but I never used that. What is worth it for me is extended manufacture warranty, mail in repair and etc. Every MBP that I own, it has to go in once if not more.

If you are in the US you have up to 1 year. The caveat is that after 60 days you have to setup an appointment - Genius Bar appt at an apple store. Bring the laptop along with the purchase receipt in, they will verify and from there you can purchase apple care +, again you have up to 1 year from the date of purchase.

I did for mine and I would recommend it considering how new these are. If anything brakes parts are going to be hard to come by and expensive. It would be wise.

@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much.

Sure thing!

good and bad I supposed

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Once you get the machine you'll have 60 days to decide to do it yourself and up to 1 year to do it through Apple. For a desktop machine there are very little need for it, however, I still get mine anyways. Part of the reason is that should anything ever go wrong it is covered. Damage are less likely to happen but manufacturer defect that will show up over time yes. And since these computer are non upgradable now or even repairable for that matter, I get it because if something goes wrong with the SSD, SoC, etc. I am covered and it does not have to be an out of pocket expense on my part. Like everything in life it is a peace of mind really, a small price to pay for some and something else to others.

@@ArtIsRight ok thanks buddy. Do you know roughly how much AppleCare+ is and how long it lasts for? And does it cover Apple Parts inside the tower?

The whole machine inside and out. Price you can get a yearly subscription paid yearly or one lump sum the first time around that will cover the machine for 3 years. the latter is a little cheaper and allows you to transfer it to a new owner, the former option ties it to your Apple ID and that is it. If you don't renew, the other new owner can't renew it under their apple pd

@@ArtIsRight thanks buddy

2 incidents per 12 months with copay. I think anything more than that is out of pocket.

@@ArtIsRight thank you

If the other reasons is manufacture defect and not tampering yes. Also they will replaced it under accidental damage as well, just that there's a co pay.

@@ArtIsRight My previous macbook pro just stopped after an update and the apple authorised service centre told me to replace the logic board. So in this situation with Apple Care Plus do they replace it?

I can't speak on behalf of Apple. If you don't have Apple Care + Already and didn't enrolled the device within the time frame. They will repair it but it will be out of pocket.

@@ArtIsRight What happens if I have Apple Care Plus but the faulty covered item (in this case a MacBook) has been discontinued before the plan expires? Will they be replaced with a new model?

Most likely. I don't know the specificity of your situation. So I would reach out to apple for help on this.

That too I have it on all of mine but it is all a value proposition that each have to evaluate on their own. Some people are all for it, some adamant against it.

Everyone is doing this in some form or another. At least Apple is making the process easier with Apple Care Plus

@@ArtIsRight do you know if they offer anything different for business? Dell has pretty good service too and they’ll often come to your location to make replacements on the spot (for business at least)

I think they do have a business Apple Care +, you can try googling it for some basic info, but I know that have something along those line. Though it is fairly pricey.

You have to think of it as a 3 years extended warranty and each 12 month you get 2 incidental damage, with co pay of course but any manufacture defect would be fully covered. Personally I think it is worthwhile because repair on these devices can be expensive. If you divide the cost by 3 year, you are really paying under $0.40 a day for a peace of mind. Something to consider.

You have think of it as a daily cost of 30 cents or something. You will get your money worth back once you need a change of battery or some accidental damage. And now you have unlimited claims for accidental damage. Just have to pay the $100 or something.

Awesome

You can technically get it any where you buy the machine, where prohibited by law of course. And my understanding is that the warranty is world wide.

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You can’t get applecare plus if you have received your device for more than 60 days. Oh and you have already damaged the laptop.

@@Salty_Biscuitz88 I got it just fine after the screen was broken. They replaced it no questions asked

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Apple Care has always been a bit tricky. Before 2015, I would never buy it for a desktop because most parts on my system's would break within either the first year (when covered by the basic Apple warranty) or 5-7 years later which, is after the period of Apple Care. Today, if buying a new $3,000, 27-inch iMac Pro, I would buy Apple Care. However, if buying a $900, M-1 mac mini, I would not not buy Apple Care.

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Depending on the damage, most of the time they would replace the broken / damage part on the machine. Whole laptop replacement generally come after so many persistence issues.

@@ArtIsRight I have sticky keyboard and a dead pixel on the screen so we’ll see what happens. Thank you!

ah that, there should be no co pay because that is defect based on what you describe. And if the sticky keyboard is not from water damage, then it is for sure defect. Based on this Apple will still replace the keyboard and possibly the upper assembly and batter depending on the model and the screen as well.

Great questions. I can't answer for Apple but this is what I think is going to happen. 1. These Apple Care + yearly are not around long enough yet to the point that we see Mac become "vintage" in Apple parlance - obsolete or discontinued. So it is one of those we shall see, they have said what they will do but the can change this policy on whim. 2. What will most likely happen is that once your product become vintage they may stop apple care. If they allow it to continue, and if something happens to your machine they might replaced it with a current base model unit, if you are still covered under apple care +. But the reality is this, if pro are using these computers, they would get change out every 3 - 5 years at the longest. For consumer that can be longer. Hope this helps.

@@ArtIsRight Thanks a lot for your fast answer. I have a 2016 MacBook Pro that is working very well but I would like to buy the new 15 inch MacBook Air with the M2 chip and I want it to last very very long. I use my iPad 2022 much more than my laptop but there are things I do on my laptop that I can’t do on my iPad. Also, when I add a note on my iPad 2022 and/or iPhone 13, it doesn’t get synchronized on my MacBook because it’s too old and doesn’t use the new Apple chips. I guess I will have to contact Apple for Apple care plan, to be sure about what will happen if my new laptop gets quite old. Have a nice day!

Also, I am not a pro, just a retired 70 years old lady, but I want my laptop to last a long long time.

"Also, when I add a note on my iPad 2022 and/or iPhone 13, it doesn’t get synchronized on my MacBook because it’s too old and doesn’t use the new Apple chips." To clarify this, the reason why this happen is only partially because of the reasons that you stated. MacBook is too old, somewhat, the issues really stems from the supported OS version. And having an apple chip is not a pre-requisite for these feature. The OS, however, is. One way to get around this is to use a bypass such as Open Core Legacy Patcher, it will a boot loader that enabled older machines to run current OS. This will circumvent the OS issues that you have with syncing. "I guess I will have to contact Apple for Apple care plan, to be sure about what will happen if my new laptop gets quite old." If you do contact them, ask for Apple Care Administration Department. By pass the tier 1 support, they most likely will not know or give you the wrong answers anyways. If you do contact them, please post their response in a new comment, I'm curious what they will say.

Also, I am not a pro, just a retired 70 years old lady, but I want my laptop to last a long long time. I hear you :)

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I got it for mine, for iPhone I think that it is even a better deal. I had issues with phones in the past, manufacture defects, etc, and advanced replacement works well.

@@ArtIsRight ok sweet I think I will grab it since I only have 4 days left to. I have smashed my my last 3 iPhone screens so I think it will be a smart idea.

Then yes! It will save you a lot on repair bills!

Never said that a software or separate app was needed. In fact Apple does not make said app that you are referring to, unless it is their support app for iOS and iPadOS

That ok, I hear you.

I assume you don’t have kids around 6-12. They love to break stuffs and my macbooks and iphones have fallen so many times. That’s when apple care comes in handy. And Things break easily when you travel, too. If you babysit your laptops and things dont fall apart around you, don’t buy the apple care.

That is a totally different perspective!

@@khoifoto my kids are now 18 and 19 but have grown up with Apple devices since the age of about 5 and we’ve had one cracked screen between them. We’ve all also travelled extensively throughout the UK and the world with MacBook Pros, iPhones and iPads, travelling by air, train and car. In any case, accidental damage can be covered more cheaply by home contents insurance or gadget insurance. It’s not a case of babysitting stuff… more a case of being proportionately careful and teaching kids to do the same, as opposed to treating expensive Apple products with gay abandon, but thanks for your perspective… 😂

@@JamboLinnman thanks for sharing your UK experience. Things are a bit different here in the US. Many insurance companies increase premium significantly when you file home claims. So, that’s not worth the cost here. Each of my kids has his own iPhone and macbooks, and they tend to break stuffs quite often. They are quite good with electronics but it’s just their personality that tend to keep ‘em active all the time, so it’s a norms to see them come back home with a broken watch or cracked screen phone. (All are now in the 16-18 age range and they still break things…)

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Yes, their tech support has gotten worse through out the years, but I'm still able to get what I need properly repaired. Obviously, experiences vary.

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Once you make a claim with your home insurance, your monthly payments will be much higher in the future.

@@albertvathapally84 True, but I switch insurence company every 2-3 years so its not a issue for me.

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You can tell, they just want you to pay for iCloud storage. It is the same with music, they used to push the iTunes store to buy song at $1.30 each. Now, Apple would prefer for you to subscribe monthly to rent music.

Not pushing, just tell what I consider useful, I even said that in the video, this is not marketing for apple.Nor I am an international lawyer with resources to research the law for every country apple sells in, but thank for point it out!

@@ArtIsRight i understand,but you don't have to be a lawyer,this is true for every country ,for at least the first year Otherwise I rly like your other videos about color profiles

Right but in some EU country for instance, they give 2 year and some additional coverage, The delineation is too great to cover it all. And as you move toward the Asia Pacific, South Africa these included warranty are met with more scrutiny and are harder to claim. And I did state that the device does come in the included manufacturer warranty which are limited to defects only, so if you break your device, that is going to cost you more without apple care than with it. but each to their own.

@@ArtIsRight gotcha .thanks for answering politely btw :)

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no it does not

@@ArtIsRight Thats kind of a big deal for most especially if your looking to get into film like me, and want to edit on the fly.

You can always get a full insurance policy that covers your equipment.

@@ArtIsRight Most cap out at 2,500 and the MacBook Pro I’m buying for my creative work is 3,500. I’ve yet to find one in the uk that supports this.

Depends, material and manufacture defects are covered. It is accidental damage that is not.

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If this was me, I would just take my MacBook Air into a different Apple retail store and just say what is not properly working. Most of the time, if you make enough of a fuss they will agree to fix it. In 2005, they tried to pull a number on me as well with my glossy white 20-inch G5 iMac by saying the motherboard went out because of a power surge. But, I said no way because before my first boot-up, I always plug-in a back-up power supply. So, they had to replace the motherboard for free (smile...smile).

@@transitengineer - I tried. Apple is not dumb.

@@Erin-Thor Well, if taking it in person to a different Apple retail store and talking to the staff, did not work. Then, I would send a simple letter to Apple, Inc. saying; 1st) I paid for Apple Care; 2nd) My computer is still under the warranty period; 3rd) If it is not repaired or replaced within a timely manner...that, I will be filing legal action against your company.

@@transitengineer - Hate to say this, but SERIOUSLY? Dealing with Apple is like dealing with the Borg. I’ve written letters, contacted attorneys and gotten nowhere. Apple doesn’t give a crap about a disgruntled customer.

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Perhaps for some but not all. Many will find this useful ;)

@@ArtIsRight I found this useful. In terms of extended warranty, Apple offers the best experience. I've been with Dell for many many years, back to the day of the first XPS brand name announcement and the experience is not very nice.

Personally for I have used both Dell and Microsoft and they both are really bad compared to Apple, but each to their own 🖖🏼

I'll bet it is not the same as in the US.

Apple haters are funnier though, they sit there and act like their windows products dont fail and that they're 15k computer isn't more expensive than the Mac, oh and lets not forget if you buy the machine from a company like Dell or HP they also sell you extra warranty! lol

The joke is on you this time. M1 series are really good value for the $$$ depending on the apps you use. And the extended warranty from Dell, LG, HP sucks when compared to Apple Care+, and don't call me fan boy because I've been a proud owner of many many PCs since the 386 486 era. Give credit when credit is due my friend.

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@@khoifoto I didn't say the products are junk - I actually have an iPhone, but it still isn't worth paying all that extra $$$ for the Apple care plan. I just never break my products, so still a waste of money, especially for the M1's. But to each their own. I still think it's funny how the Apple fans make excuses and justify the high prices. Didn't call YOU a fanboy, but hey, if you like the title, more to ya.

@@ivideocreations5941 No way said anything about other companies selling you extra warranties, hell everyone does that. I'm speaking of the cost and then the justification for the cost and then the justification for features that are left out or are simply copied from other OEM's. Oh and try to do your own maintenance on one of those M1's. LOL