About half the barrels I drill, and the other half I don't. Whenever I see somebody get SO worked up about drilled barrels I am tempted to re-fill my drilled barrels. What bothers me is when people think they can dictate as to how another is supposed to enjoy the hobby. We all have different aspects of the hobby that we have varying degrees of passion for.. I don't care how well you've painted or built your models, let's just play the game, and have a good time. There's a whole world of shit to get angry about, we're using the hobby to get away from that

£40 for 10 plastic toy soldiers I shouldn't have to drill my own barrels, should be done for me during production

I really enjoy building the minis and drilling the barrels, to me, is fun. I would never hold it against someone for not doing it. It’s their choice to make their minis worse than mine.

I came across this video while I was looking at a video to learn how to drill the barrels - I've not done it before but decided I'd like to for my new army as I'm getting back into the Hobby. I clicked on this because I thought there might be an argument against it, and there is no reason I can see not to but wow was this surprisingly intense as an opinion video on a plastic soldier. I love the game, and I will do the drilling but I can't imagine getting so worked up about it.

If someone wants to drill they drill. If someone doesn't want to drill, they don't. Really not drilling barrels doesn't necessarily mean lazy hobbyist (anyways who cares, it's their choice how they enjoy their hobby). Someone may be just batch-painting or want to get through their pile of shame. Now for competition display-level pieces, that's a different matter. Unless you are amazing at painting holes, and even then the time could be better spent on other stuff.

My nerves are too bad to try and paint a little perfectly centered dot lol Drilling offers me more control using a pin or tack to center punch the hole.

This video convinced me not to drill me barrels, not because I don't think it looks good (I do), and not because I can't be arsed (I can), but because I would rather throw myself off a building than risk having other people think that I agree with this guy.

Touch some grass mate

You know who knows that you didn’t drill your barrel? The Emperor, he knows.

Mountain out of a molehill, drilling barrels isnt a requirement

Controversial opinion, i don't think it does matter. Do the details that make you feel good about the mini, if that includes drilling the barrels go for it but saying others should do it is a bit ridiculous. I get what you are saying, take some pride in your work but ultimately the tabletop isn't the golden demon qualifier, the shortcuts are good enough to have a nice looking army to play warhammer with.

Pffftt....life is too short for drilling barrels

honestly : do what ever the fuck you want with your plastic. If doing the basics is good enough for you and you are happy with that. That is fantastic. Keep on going. If you want something more special with more detail - drill em out. Doesn't take long and adds a noticibly detail that makes you made up space soldier more beliveable and grounded in this world and physics. I take offence to something else though. In that article they say that you can just build em , dunk em in wash and be done or however they say that. Ok. Do that and try to enter an official tournament or even just try to game at a GW store with a Manager that actually follows the rules. Good luck.

Do what you want drilled or not drilled. I've drilled barells and it can be a pain in the ass and I've screwed up a bolter or two or didn't do it just right. You can literally buy blacker than black paint and dot the hole and be done with it instead of drilling.

Always drill my barrels. Happy with it.Wealthy people problems nowadays...

Thanks now my chips are too salty....

My man says, “I’m gonna use a heretical statement as clickbait”… and it worked… here I am…

I never drilld hols in my weapons. The risk of wasting them IS Not worth IT.

Nailing a barrel hole with my drill is my own little dopamine kick, like "..yeaa, nailed it!" Couldn't give a f*ck if other people do or dont.

Someone - "Drill your barrels" Me - "No"

Hobby? In my hobby!?

jeezus mate calm the fuck down

I agree with you, and I drill all my barrels. But honestly, I really don't care what others do with their armies...as long as they have some attempt to paint them, so they are not gray plastic.

I'm struggling to understand if this guy is genuinely that angry about this or if he is just putting it on, I had no desire whatsoever in drilling out the barrels when I was collecting 40k lol

All my miniatures are drilled 🫡

Couple of things: First, if you hang up a blanket or something behind you, you don't need to censor the whole room and then mask yourself out so you can be seen. Might save you some effort. Second, dude, chill out. They are TOYS. Not everyone who plays Warhammer or collects the models has any ambition to win painting competitions. Like, I personally feel like my own models are incomplete if I don't drill the barrels, but that is my personal choice. I'm not going to get all bent out of shape if somebody suggests that drilling barrels isn't necessary, because it fucking isn't. This is a hobby. A way to pass time, a way to have fun. In the likely event somebody thinks drilling barrels isn't fun, the what the hell ever, man. It literally doesn't matter. They have every right to do their hobby in whatever way they think is the most fun, and you have no right to say they're wrong for it. Shame on you. There is NO objectively correct way to have fun, and if you are willing to argue otherwise, then maybe you should work on growing up a bit before plastering your opinion across the internet and making an absolute fool of yourself.

Calm down dude. Yes a perfectly centralised drilled hole looks great. Get it wrong and it looks terrible. Not everyone has the ability, time, attention to detail or interest to do it. I think it’s up to the individual. Personally I don’t care either way. I’m not a golden demon standard painter so at my limited talent which probably is the same for the majority of gamers it really doesn’t matter. If you want to win painting comps then yes drill, if you just want to play games then don’t. Again, chill it’s a non issue.

My hands shake as it is when I'm trying to paint. Not even bothering with drilling.

With large groups of models, no way am i drilling all of those barrels. Captains, leaders, characters etc, yeah, of course. THOSE are gonna get looked at and picked up. I've never seen anyone pick up a random trooper off the table, they always want a look at the commander and special characters. And keep in mind, i have indeed won painting competitions, so I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who takes a lot of pride in their work. As far as im concerned, considering how expensive GW models are, if they aren't giving me those holes in production, why should i HAVE to do it? Why should i be required to do the work GW is too lazy to do in production every single model? You know full well they CAN do it. Hell, i have a 3D printer and i can print models with hollow gun barrels that don't need any drilling. If i can do that on my home printer, what exactly is GW's excuse? Nah, i drill barrels when i think it's important, but not on every single model in an army. If GW can't be bothered, then it's up to me if i can be bothered too

It use to be people complained about unpainted models on the tabletop and would ask for at least a coat of primer on the army. Has the hobby become so elitist that now you need to paint to a really high standard and drill out gun barrells?

Most of the time drill, sometimes I can't be arsed. My favourite way to start the drill hole is with a hot pin. However, I recently found one of my old lead Ork spleen rippa epic scale models from what..... 30 plus years ago. Guess what, painted barrel hole :) I probably didn't have a pin drill back then, plus it was metal and hot pins don't work on metal.

I don't drill gun barrels, pick up other people's miniatures, or rip off other people's arms. Then again, nobody is picking up my things and complaining about my gun barrels to necessitate their arms requiring removal. It's a good system.

Perfect example of what GW was trying to trigger - People talking so much about this topic that it reaches outside the hobby.

Man what a pretentious video. My blood pressure rose from the second hand salt from this video. Didn’t realize there was an objectively correct way to play with your little toys. “There has never been a Golden Demon Winner” Ok? Who cares! You aren’t a Golden Demon winner. I’m not a Golden Demon winner. So it doesn’t matter 🤣

If you don't want to do it don't. If you do do it. I have been painting miniatures since 1978 and GW since 83 and only do it for commission work. None of mine are done. do what ever you want,

How come primaris still dont have drilled barrels lol thats rhe real question. I only ever got DG since 8th. So I genuinely didn't know they still ask people to drill barrels. Also you should know Primaris Players wouldn't like your opinion. For them the hobby has been conditioned by KZfaqrs to be low effort speed painting. Even to then point they scrape details from unconverted models so they paint easier. Btw no offense, do your stuff primaris players, I just dont like the low effort aesthetic.

I pin all my models to the base. I paint off bases. Soooooo the extra 12 seconds to use the drill I already have in hand to drill a gun barrel seems "lazy" to me to ignore. But that's me and MY toys. You do You Bou. As for this GW statement: I'm going to take the highest road and applaud GW for attempting to open a gate, held by snobby gatekeepers who would rather be "superior" than "welcoming" to new or young hobbyists.

Gw should cast barrels in the first place, as a Ork player I have 200+ models all with barrels to drill

I won’t drill my barrels, I don’t care if other people like my models or not, I’ve spent MY money on MY models so I’ll do what I want

Its like any element of the hobby. If you want to do it do it... if you dont want to you don't have to. You might be wrong but who cares, it's your hobby/ army. It's not my place to tell you how to build your minis. Just have fun and do what you want to do 🤷‍♂️

lol. This response is just as ridiculous as the original article. There are obviously some that care, there are those that don’t. I could care less personally.

Too bad, I already did and will continue to do so.

The whole point of the article not to be news or a serious debate, it was a laugh and nothing more. I paint to a high level. Sometimes I drill, mostly I don’t. That’s my choice and no amount of shaming in a video by a pretentious elitist KZfaqr will change my mind. My characters look great and my troops good. Good enough for me and my 5 finished armies.

I drill al my barrels, and I agree that it's not hard, and looks a lot better than a black dot. but if people don't want to do it, than I just say: sure, you do you, they are your models not mine. same about mold lines, sure I'd tell people in a constructive way that removing them will improve the look of the mini, but if they don't want to, than that's their choice, I'd never feel the need to force people into doing that stuff, or feel triggerd about it. Everyone has their way of hobbying and no one else has the right to force them into doing stuff the way you do it! Imagine getting this salty about such a silly thing and making an angry ranyting vid over a article that literally tells people to enjoy the hobby in whatever way they like. this is just toxic AF. You are the type of gatekeeping neckbeard that gives warhammer fans a bad name.

eh... cant be arsed

I'll continue drilling mine, and I'll never take a shot at someone for not doing theirs. However, acting like its not noticeable and/or not an improvement is being disingenuous. You wouldn't think a leman russ looks just as good if you jam the barrel solidly shut with green stuff.

Painting models? You lost me. 😂

You do whatever the fuck you want...

The fact you look like your about to have an aneurysm because people are suggesting you don't need to drill a gun barrel is hilarious. People don't have to drill barrels to enjoy their hobby...not everyone is trying to be a golden demon winner.

Well if the argument is that life is too short to spend drilling barrels. The same argument could be said about scraping mold lines, or cleaning the tiny bit of sprue left when you clip them out.

rant

Nice OPINION.

Nah fam. Not wasting time doing something for a model that’ll be pulled Turn 1

womp womp

Who cares what other people do on their models. So much salt for no reason

derp

Loving seeing you posting more.often again, even if it is "only" to vent some steam bud! I guess in this topic of is rather simple.... If you are the kind of player that does not want to spend the time on properly assembling, removing mould lines, put some putty where needed, do layering of colours to get depth, do some work to the base etc... to get that model to look good from closer than 3+ feet away... you skip the drilling. If you on the other hand spend more than 10min on the assembling assembling of the mini and more than just a spray can and dry brush pass... Drill the bloody barrel! Btw... What bribe is needed to get you to dip your toes into a gaslands build? /Camilo with the weird last name...

I think this video, in its very existence, has embarrassed the human race and I doubt we will ever truly recover from it. Really though? People not drilling holes in little boltguns really got your hackles up this much? This is really just sad. I, for one, am glad that you probably don't leave your basement and the general gaming population will never have to see you at a LGS. And even taking a few minute gander at your other videos, I would have expected better paint jobs and use of techniques from someone so pretentious.