Why you should NEVER grind your quail feed

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11 ай бұрын

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@bdagroworld 11 ай бұрын

Love form Bangladesh 🇧🇩

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Welcome

@ermino. 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for share ur video sending love and support new friend yahooo

@MyshireFarm 9 ай бұрын

Welcome and glad your here

@deannadeanna6354 11 ай бұрын

My local mill doesn't have the machinery to make pellets. I buy the mash with extra protein for the first 6 weeks, then layer feed. My quail do very well.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Sounds great!

@froggymountain 11 ай бұрын

same here - purchasing from local Amish mill. Amish do not have multiple $100K's equipment. Small country Amish. Mash is non-gmo and organically grown.

@Hick-A-BillyLLC 11 ай бұрын

Great information! Thanks for sharing 👍

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@khadijahhollingsworth4956 11 ай бұрын

Happy to hear that. Thank you.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

@kentnichols4743 9 ай бұрын

just ordered some quail cages off of your website ,once there here ,will be ordering some breeders from you ,new sub ,you're just full of knowledge ,thank you

@MyshireFarm 9 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard! And good luck on your adventure

@mariobryan4608 11 ай бұрын

thanks for the info

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

No problem

@Recklass8714 11 ай бұрын

That will be so much easier.... Thank you!

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Your welcome

@sowandtare 11 ай бұрын

Excellent explanation.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks

@granny4751 11 ай бұрын

New sub! I might have been binge watching like pretty much all day. LOL So good to know this so I don't make that mistake. Your knowledge ia amazing! Thank you so much for sharing with us. I feel like I have already learned so much but know I have much more to learn. Exciting and kind of scary at the same time. I kind of learned a lot by my mistakes from long ago. Have a Blessed day.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and welcome

@janaboo9285 11 ай бұрын

Haha. My mill sells their feed in whole grains + powder. When I wasn't grinding it I was having problems, because the chicks weren't eating the whole millet/wheat berries/etc. I totally agree about not grinding pelleted feed, however. Mills go to a lot of expense and effort to make sure every pellet is the same nutritionally, but that doesn't mean that the pellets themselves aren't "lopsided" in ingredient layout within the pellet, because they assume the animal is consuming the whole pellet in its entirety. So as long as the animal eats the whole pellet, the guaranteed analysis is met. (As a side note: once the chicks are big enough to eat the whole grains, they switch to that with free choice grit. The ground (flour, basically) feed is only for the first while until they can eat whole grains.)

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Glad that works for you.

@user-be5jz3br8u 9 ай бұрын

I absolutely love your videos. I have been think of starting to raise quail.

@MyshireFarm 9 ай бұрын

You should! They are great and if you have any questions feel free to ask

@carlhurst6829 7 ай бұрын

me too

@Thescidude1 11 ай бұрын

Interesting and good to know. I've always done a grind for my newly hatched chicks for their first two to three days.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@4zooflorida 11 ай бұрын

Wow, another thing I thought I was doing right, but found out I was doing wrong. Thank you for the information.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Glad to help.

@shannonrobinson262 11 ай бұрын

Makes total sense. I use a spaghetti colander and sift out the smaller pieces. Bigger than the dust, but smaller than the crumble( maybe 30% of crumble size.) so far so good. I haven’t lost any to feed issues. Nice breakdown on why not to grind. If I have not small stuff, I reduce size very slightly buy breaking it to half size in a mortar and pestle carefully by hand. Feeding dust never sat well with me. When I used turkey starter mash they didn’t eat as well and were smaller eve; though it was a higher protein. They really like the gamebird starter best.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@quaileggsvermont 10 ай бұрын

I have always taken gamebird crumble for the first 2 week and ground it up. All the stuff in the crumble does not leave the crumble after grinding it it's still all in there. It's always mixed good. I have never lost any healthy quail chick do to what they eat! If I do louse a quail chick, it some deformity out of the shell or some problem out of a shell. Never have I lost any quail chick do to starvation from any ground food! All the makers want you to do is to buy there grower mash or if you can find game bird grower mash! Here there is no such a thing as game bird grower mash! Maybe I am very wrong, but it works for me!

@MyshireFarm 10 ай бұрын

Glad it works for you

@quaileggsvermont 10 ай бұрын

@@MyshireFarm Thanks I didn't mean to contradict you at all. Just that works for me! I have raised 1000's of birds over here and so far it works very good! They grow quick and seem not to be missing any goodness, it seems and they grow up to be cute little duffers! No early deaths unless the weight is not where it belongs.. But you even get that. The EGGS that you have just sent to me, when these hatch they will be on the same thing! I will keep you posted, and I hope they don't get scrambled in shipping! I do love your videos and I have shared your content to my FB! 👍🏻👍🏻💯💯

@SonniesGardenPA 11 ай бұрын

I hear people say they grind there feed but I followed all your instructions. I put that feed down on the paper when I moved them to the brooder and the ate the Crumbles with no problem.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Wonderful to hear.

@jbid9999 11 ай бұрын

Thanks

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@laurawallace601 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, this explains why my quail are all different sizes. Again thank you will not do this on my next batch ( No grinding of there feed)

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Glad to help!!!!!

@georgiaporter7828 11 ай бұрын

Thank you. Who knew. Now I do!

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Glad to help.

@abbalove8211 11 ай бұрын

Good to know. Mine hatched a few days ago. I thought I was suppose to grind it. I know to stop now.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Glad I could help

@wildroseranch1 11 ай бұрын

Glad I saw this before my jumbos hatch

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Glad to help

@PracticingLiberty 8 ай бұрын

You might be able to ensure it ends up uniform and consistent with the original analysis by doing small batches then applying a quartering and recombining technique i.e. pour the entire ground batch on the floor, divide into quarters with a flat shovel, reblend diagonal quarters with each other, quarter them, crossblend, repeat. Not sure if density differences in feed components would cause separation over time but your batch would be uniform in the end... The technique comes from powder sampling/analysis.

@MyshireFarm 8 ай бұрын

That’s a good idea

@cathalmire 11 ай бұрын

i was going to grind the chicken layers pellets thinking they are to large for the quail but they seem to eat them with no problem, i mixed it with the other quail seed mix i had..but they dont like the smaller seed so there is loads of it left in the bottom of the tub after there finished.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Glad this helped

@TheGoodlifeoffgrid 11 ай бұрын

Hello 😊 well dun 👍

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@fredvance215 8 ай бұрын

Apparently you don't look at your own page and try and try to find the ordering

@MyshireFarm 8 ай бұрын

We have many different options on our website

@paulfontaine288 5 ай бұрын

We sprout wheat for our chickens it is a treat for them in the winter , we are in Canada. Do you suppose we could supplement quails with that?

@MyshireFarm 4 ай бұрын

Yes that would be fine

@makom5265 11 ай бұрын

I was just thinking about my quail feed! My birds are now 8 weeks old and the feed I buy is the game bird feed from IFA. I have automatic slow feeders but I still get a lot of waste. My feed is very dusty and powdery so I am hoping to change it to a pellet or crumble cause there is still so much waste! I never grinded my feed cause I used the turkey blend for my quail chicks.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Great. Good luck

@alexbaker4104 5 ай бұрын

Hi Zack i had a virus kill all my birds that were in a coop outside made of wood and advice on how to clean it the cage is wood and tarps the ground is the backyard ground no grass

@dianeblankenship3662 11 ай бұрын

any thoughts for feed for hatchling button quail? I've been sifting the game bird to get the finer particles?

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

No experience with buttons sorry.

@bocadelcieloplaya3852 11 ай бұрын

i've been feeding my chicks their first week with the feed left over in the bottom of my feeder from the adult birbs. Do you think this is still a fairly balanced mix of the nutrients? Crumbles style feed.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

They will need a higher protein.

@O.K.D2114 11 ай бұрын

I buy a crumble from my local feed mill but often there are still full size pellets or only partial crumbled pellets. I noticed the quail waste more and will kick it out if its not grinded down. Is there anything I can do about that? I don't want to waste a lot of feed but I also want to make sure I have healthy quail.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Just feed it back to them and they will eat it the second time around I have found

@Jasontucker215 10 ай бұрын

wanted to give you credit on my video and let you know that I did and say Thank you

@MyshireFarm 10 ай бұрын

Thank you and I wish you the best of luck

@Jasontucker215 10 ай бұрын

@@MyshireFarm thank you very much

@maxjones9045 8 ай бұрын

So what would you give day old chicks?

@MyshireFarm 8 ай бұрын

Crumble

@georgeschannel6168 7 ай бұрын

I’m not sure about this video. Was it all about not to grind your bought pellet food? Or never grind the whole seeds? I’m confused. So what is the conclusion? Leave the quail pellets / crumbs whole? Or have just a seed mix from whole seeds? This video is confusing.

@MyshireFarm 7 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that. Feed them a crumble and do not grind

@neashaboldeau1066 3 ай бұрын

Can you feed quails spent grain from a brewery

@MyshireFarm 3 ай бұрын

I have not tried that but I would not think so but truly don’t know

@trappingisthewayoflife7146 11 ай бұрын

So do you get smaller pellets or just feed the pellets and the eat the ones they can was told to grind because they can eat the pellets

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

You need to feed them a crumble

@trappingisthewayoflife7146 11 ай бұрын

Hard to find here been to 15 places and no one has it just pellets

@PurplePanda234 11 ай бұрын

@@trappingisthewayoflife7146 You are looking for crumble, not pellets.

@shannonrobinson262 11 ай бұрын

@@trappingisthewayoflife7146 try using turkey starter if you can’t find crumbles. It’s 30% protein. They do great on it. The ones I use this for get huge fast. I like my birds a bit smaller as I mainly raise for eggs, so I switch to crumble by day 3 when they are a bit bigger.

@alexbaker4104 10 ай бұрын

Hello zack my quail are not producing eggs i got two eggs yesterday i have around 25 females is there something i can do ? Do quail stop laying for a while like seasons or do they lay around the year? Thank you

@MyshireFarm 10 ай бұрын

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@atashafelix1909 11 ай бұрын

Hi good morning how do I order eggs from you to start my production? I live Trinidad and Tobago.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

I am unable to ship internationally I am sorry.

@KasumiRose77 11 ай бұрын

I grind BABY feed and I wet my ALL feed and ~~~~I COOK MY ADULT FEED!!!!! - in a lid-on plug in pressure cooker with kombuch +++ tons of other feed measured out very carefully for the micro nutrition. I cook it because I cook in whole wheat berries until they swell and pop! Never ever ever ever had an issue with losing babies. Ever. My adult feed cooks for TEN HOURS and breaks down and mixes well. I'll add layer feed to the cooked soupy mix to thicken the mix and get it into the feeders before it thickens fully. Once it's the right temperature and thickness they get to eat. My birds have been doing better since I started this, the area is less dusty. It has taken 3 WHOLE YEARS to perfect this method.....

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Good for you. 9 times out of 10 people will have issues

@KasumiRose77 11 ай бұрын

I revised my post. Maybe they didn't put as much effort into it as I did and those with success.... I mean I worked on it for years!

@KasumiRose77 11 ай бұрын

@BannedGarcia I sat with them for over a year to study them... It was fun hanging out. Does that count?! 🤣🤣

@shannonrobinson262 11 ай бұрын

@BannedGarcia hey we had one batch we played Disney instrumental music for. I brood them in my bedroom and they peeped all night otherwise. They were quite when they had their music on. I was so glad when they went out to the aviary.

@breannapatz6511 11 ай бұрын

You keep saying scientific--can I see the studies or papers or any peer reviewed article that shows a correlation between grinding feed and morality/nutrition rates please? You mentioned lower mortality rates in customers after they switch to unground feed, but this is after the chicks are already several days to a week old. Mortality rates are always higher the first few days after hatch, regardless of whether or not you grind your feed--and that's been proven. Correlation does not prove causation. If you want to post your personal experiences, that's fine. It's nice to have something broken down to everyday terms, but only if it's accurate and you can back it up with hard data. Otherwise it's just opinion, not science.

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

We had a PHD doctor that makes our feed explain all this to me as well as a nutritional expert explain this at quail con as well. This is for Coturnix feed

@pipsnchicks 11 ай бұрын

@MyshireFarm Who? I'd love to talk to them. I've pulled several studies and books from MTU. None deal specifically with grinding feed, but feed size and grinding techniques all seem to show that you'll get a huge mortality increase in not grinding feed for a minimal growth improvement (and that growth is in broiler chickens, not conclusive for quail).

@MyshireFarm 11 ай бұрын

Quail are a third of the size of chickens when born so that study has nothing to do with coturnix at all. When you are dealing with a smaller frame that does not compute

@pipsnchicks 11 ай бұрын

@@MyshireFarm Yes and no. There are several studies in quail that also prove the optimal feed size is 2mm on full grown/teenage quail, and slower growth rates, higher feed conversion rates, etc on larger pellet sizes. I have yet to find a study on quail that proves that pelleted feed is beneficial for quail--the one that I did find that proved pelleted feed can increase growth rates in chickens (because of feed texture, not uniformity), also showed a 500% mortality increase when using pelleted feed. Again, in broiler chickens, that was a growth increase of about 5 grams over the span of 8 weeks but 5x more chicks died. And if that is with broiler chickens, I would assume that quail would have an even higher difference because they are smaller. I'll gladly post the links for anyone interested in reading about it further. I really would like to talk to your nutritionist and/or your animal scientist (I'm guessing that's what their PhD is in? There are only a handful of people with poultry science degrees in the US). I'm genuinely curious what studies and numbers they're looking at. I'm always happy to make a few emails or phone calls to clarify things too, I'd hate to be missing information.

@Karah127 8 ай бұрын

@@MyshireFarm I would be very interested in seeing a video with you interviewing the person you’re getting this information from. I’m wondering if it’s being taken out of context or misunderstood altogether.

@Karah127 8 ай бұрын

Um, what?? This information is so incorrect I don’t even know where to begin. Do you really think putting feed in a blender changes the nutritional value of that feed? It somehow miraculously turns into sawdust from trees? Have you ever even had a smoothie?

@MyshireFarm 8 ай бұрын

Sorry you feel that way

@fredvance215 8 ай бұрын

What and how do you find your telephone number to order for just a ordering page

@MyshireFarm 8 ай бұрын

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