Why You Shouldn't Switch To Tubeless! (Just Yet)

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People often rave about how good running a tubeless setup is on mountain bikes! However, no one ever talks about how tubeless can suck! Rich is here with his top 6 reasons why you should stick to the old faithful tube! Is it really worth forking out money for tubeless valves, sealant, tape and tyres? Watch to find out...
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0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Messy
1:44 - Maintenance
2:27 - Expense
3:25 - Burping
4:28 - Dinged Rims
5:07 - If It Ain't Broke
5:59 - Outro
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@tylercrippen6935
@tylercrippen6935 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing reading how many people have had issues with tubes. I’ve never ran a tubeless setup once in my life, and rarely do I ever get a pinch or puncture with tubes. I can count on my hands how many times I have had to replace a tube while riding, granted we don’t have gigantic thorns like it seems a lot of others have on their trails. You also cannot beat the simplicity, and who cares about the weight savings? I’m not a world class racer, so shaving that little bit off doesn’t matter. To me, tubeless is just another thing to spend money on in a sport that is already insanely expensive.
@notparanoid912
@notparanoid912 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the trail, carcass and riding style. I live in the Alps and after a hard run i can count the sealant points on the MAXXIS exo carcass. Never had a sealant leak on my Schwalbe supergravity.
@zacknagel827
@zacknagel827 Жыл бұрын
@@notparanoid912 Maxxis in my personal opinion make some of the worst tires on the market. I replace more Maxxis tires then anything else by a long run for punctures. If I replace the same riders tires with Specialized or Vittoria, they will be perfectly fine for comparable ride times on the Maxxis.
@DDD893
@DDD893 Жыл бұрын
I think people often had problems with punctures when they using some expensive, extra-light tires. I'm using relatively cheap heavy tires with adequate puncture protection, so there is no reason to have sealant inside. And since they are heavy, tubes don't make much difference. I think tubeless should be used on races, where weight and speed really matters. Using them for leisure riding just adds more problems
@rickmortyson4861
@rickmortyson4861 Жыл бұрын
Same bro. Some people just cant ride their mtb.
@rickmortyson4861
@rickmortyson4861 Жыл бұрын
@@notparanoid912 continental baron or continental der Kaiser. Those are by far the best tyres. Pls just dont ruin them with tubeless
@raymundhofmann7661
@raymundhofmann7661 Жыл бұрын
Just mountainbiking got too boring for me, so added the tubeless hobby to it.
@LiamU5272
@LiamU5272 Жыл бұрын
When i first started mountain biking, I used to have constant tube flats, so much so i nearly gave up the sport. Needing to replace one of my tires for a separate issue, I decided to upgrade both and get set up tubeless. I have never once looked back, especially as I have yet to go flat. Tubeless setup saved my love of this sport, I could never consider tubes again.
@JoPro06
@JoPro06 Жыл бұрын
Yep, before I went tubeless I had a statistic of a puncture in about 40% of my rides. Now I’ve put down more distance in total than with the previous setup, and got only one puncture.
@gmbn
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! At the end of the day, tubeless can save a lot of hassle out on the trails; however, it takes a bit more time to set up! 👍
@Hong1626
@Hong1626 Жыл бұрын
same here with lots of flats before, but i just ride for recreation. Now i m not going to trail without tubes with sealant inside. Not yet tried tubeless setup.
@matic1112
@matic1112 Жыл бұрын
then u riding garbige tubes and tyres if u go dh tube and dh casing on maxxis or dd casing u good to go! just look rampage 90% of riders run tubes
@phillvallace
@phillvallace Жыл бұрын
Hmmm I've never got a flat running tubes, seems a bit odd to me
@TheBraddles82
@TheBraddles82 Жыл бұрын
Next week: TUBES SUCK!, why you must go tubeless
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Жыл бұрын
Gotta make that content. 🤣😂
@IcemanF14
@IcemanF14 Жыл бұрын
These guys are so bipolar
@hrjr5165
@hrjr5165 Жыл бұрын
They’ve def ran out of content
@KiloHertzDJ
@KiloHertzDJ Жыл бұрын
still using tubes,and never thought to change something about it,im pretty happy with running tubes🤗
@bhodson7954
@bhodson7954 Жыл бұрын
A great halfway solution is to run an inner tube with sealant in it! Puncture resistance with no mess. A bit heavier, but works well.
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Жыл бұрын
Dude said give him all the excess weight. 😂🤣😂
@toadlguy
@toadlguy Жыл бұрын
Seems to me you don’t get the advantage of faster speeds, but still get all the mess. Also do you use special valves to get the sealant in the tube?
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Жыл бұрын
@@toadlguy he’s joking, calm down. Regular Presta valves.
@jacquie212
@jacquie212 Жыл бұрын
I did this on my kids bikes when they had some thorn punctures.
@rickmortyson4861
@rickmortyson4861 Жыл бұрын
Thats something pure idiots and no skilled drivers would do.....
@colinl2908
@colinl2908 Жыл бұрын
I run tubes still and a Tannus in the rear. I'm not too fussed about weight, I just want to have reliable fun. Granted you can run inserts with tubeless and mitigate some of the problems Rich mentions.
@gingerninja019
@gingerninja019 Жыл бұрын
Also use the tannus armour, best of both worlds and can run a lighter tyre
@rascaldere9327
@rascaldere9327 Жыл бұрын
if you want reliable fun... switch to tubeless.. I haven't had a flat that I have had to repair on the trail in a decade... Having to do the chore once in a blue moon vs thorns taking your tubes out once a month is a no brainer.....
@davidburgess741
@davidburgess741 Жыл бұрын
Problems so severe on road I almost went airless on the back (road) I now believe a loose tire bead fit contributed to pinch flats. Different tire/rim combinations result in a wide variety of bead tightness. No tire iron neeed with one. It almost fell on, and was tricky to center.
@colinl2908
@colinl2908 Жыл бұрын
@@rascaldere9327 makes sense, although thorns aren't a problem where I live luckily.
@colinl2908
@colinl2908 Жыл бұрын
@@davidburgess741 is that with a tannus?
@stevecrump1375
@stevecrump1375 Жыл бұрын
Tubes are easy. ...👍
@arifazhari7598
@arifazhari7598 Жыл бұрын
Yes, easy to live with. Easy to repair. Especially if u ride ur bike twice a week.
@gmbn
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
It's definitely easier than messing around with tubeless sealant!😅
@stevecrump1375
@stevecrump1375 Жыл бұрын
@@gmbn 👍
@Zwiesel66
@Zwiesel66 11 күн бұрын
I agree, tubes worked always well for me too 👍
@bensieber6960
@bensieber6960 Жыл бұрын
Missed one of the biggest: tire changes. Changing tires when running tubeless is a messy pain in the rear. With tubes it's quick and easy. Some of us run one bike for multiple purposes and change tires relatively often. This is not really viable if tubeless. I tried going tubeless for a couple of years and ended up hating it. More mess, more cost, more hassle, and i still got as many punctures. I'm back to using tubes and happier for it.
@buddy7136
@buddy7136 Жыл бұрын
I second this comment.
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s crazy that you change tires that often. The solution to that would be to have a whole Nother wheel and tire set up just swap the entire thing out instead of just the rubber. And you’re literally the only person I’ve ever seen that said they had multiple punctures running tubeless.
@garethhughes5745
@garethhughes5745 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, if im doing a long journey which will involve 50% road, i'll switch different tyres. job done in 10 minutes.
@buddy7136
@buddy7136 Жыл бұрын
@@jbw5485 for the cost of a wheel set I could almost buy an entry level hardtail or I could (did) buy a set of gravel tires to swap out when I want to grind pavement. $75 with tubes.
@bensieber6960
@bensieber6960 Жыл бұрын
@@jbw5485 Wheels are not cheap. Some of us ride on a budget. And I ride everything from trails to gravel to roads to city pavement. The only thing that is effective for avoiding flats is quality tires with built in puncture protection. I actually got more flats running tubeless because of running lower tire pressure. And not pinch flats - penetrations and cuts are more likely with lower pressure. Basically, the "benefits" of tubeless never balanced the cost and hassle.
@fritzginger15
@fritzginger15 Жыл бұрын
My favorite reason for still running tubes is the cost and sustainability(reusable) I haven’t bought a new tube for my bikes in years. I have one spare and will switch it out if I get a flat on trail. Then a patch the tube with the puncture when I get home and put that one in my pack to switch back on if I get another flat in the future. One of my tubes has three patches on it 😆 but it still works great and cost only a few cents to repair. That was a perk I realized later. The original reason I never converted was the mess and fact that you still need to carry a tube for long rides incase of a picture that the sealant won’t plug.
@francisdee9955
@francisdee9955 Жыл бұрын
converted to tubeless. loving the feel, but loving the simplicity of a tube. its also what i like about a hardtail. its simple🙂
@gmbn
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! It saves a lot of time changing tubes out on the trail! 👍
@YING7777
@YING7777 Жыл бұрын
I was tubeless and I kept burping when I land a little sideways on small jumps. I got sick of it and went to tubes and everything is great now.
@agennello1
@agennello1 Жыл бұрын
Tubes with sealant in them is the bomb. Zero issues in thorny Pine Barens. All the pros and none of the cons. Green Slime makes both Schrader and Presta valve tubes with sealant in them in Fat, 27.5 and 29.
@david94549
@david94549 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I swear by them, I run slime tubes on my xc bike and tubeless on my trail bike. Both work really well, slime tube definitely more user friendly
@Rambleon444
@Rambleon444 Жыл бұрын
One more problem when running tubeless... If you get a flat with tubeless and have to put a tube in to get home, you have to find all the thorns in your tire the sealants stopped leaks at or they will puncture your new tube.
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII Жыл бұрын
😁😶‍🌫😁
@geraldhenrickson7472
@geraldhenrickson7472 Жыл бұрын
Thats not a problem, rather it is a step needed to use a tube. The very thorns you mention are another reason to stay tubeless.
@Gari.Hughes
@Gari.Hughes Жыл бұрын
Staying with tubes personally. If you gotta carry a pump and spare tube anyway then I don’t see the point in the extra complication
@benfolds17
@benfolds17 4 сағат бұрын
@@Gari.Hughes exactly! The same thing I've been saying 😂
@reedymc
@reedymc Жыл бұрын
I always run innertubes! I even have the tubeless set up ready to use, but I just cant pull myself to use it....also haven't had a puncture in years :) I tend to run slightly higher pressure for doing jumps and softer suspension to absorb the bumps
@wgnwheels333
@wgnwheels333 Жыл бұрын
Had muc off in my trance worked mint and water soluble easy to clean and replace but have tubes in my hardtail they are just fine as well.Think having good tyres in the first place helps alot
@McLOVIN_456
@McLOVIN_456 Жыл бұрын
I had so much flat tires before i get tubeless… so i can‘t complain anything about tubeless. I also switched tires two times with my tubeless system… no problems at all 😅🤷🏻‍♂️ I‘m more than happy to switched to tubeless.
@PereAndreuUbachdeFuentes
@PereAndreuUbachdeFuentes Жыл бұрын
You're so right! Tubeless just doesn't cut it for me, for all the reasons you pointed out.
@MrGoodaches
@MrGoodaches Жыл бұрын
The mess is the main reason I haven’t gone tubeless with our bikes. Also I’ve gotten mixed stories on how often I would have to take the tires off to replace dried sealant. The performance improvement of tubeless wouldn’t be as much for us as most people because of how I set our tire pressures. If we’re riding off pavement I set the tire drops to 18% if on pavement I set to 15%. I don’t do it to calculated PSI, based on estimated weights, guesstimated weight distribution, and the imprecision of a pressure gage. I’ve made actual template style gages for each drop setting and the pressure is whatever the pressure is to get that drop for each tire for whatever the actual total weight of person, clothes, bike, and gear is. Point is that we are safely at ideal pressures which turn out to be lower than what most people think they can run their tubed tires. So the “lower pressure” advantage of tubeless is a smaller step for us. Never have had pinch flats. The long life and uniform wear across the width of our treads is another indication that we’re using the entire tire for our rolling footprint. Our single track riding is all green and blue level trails. We don’t do black level and we don’t do downhills that we can’t pedal up to. So I can’t promote my tire methods for the most extreme types of riding.
@therunningman1
@therunningman1 Жыл бұрын
Been on tubeless for years. Swear by them.
@ROBinJVILLE
@ROBinJVILLE Жыл бұрын
i run tubes only because i have so many bikes many of them sit for too long
@dcmedia66
@dcmedia66 Жыл бұрын
Tubes with Tannus Tyre Armour gives me the best of both worlds. Puncture resistance without the mess and burping.
@timp2751
@timp2751 Жыл бұрын
Got a new bike a couple of years ago and it came fully tubeless ready with rims taped and valves in the box so only needed to get some sealant which at £15 for a litre is hardly bank breaking. The tyres dry inflated no problems so then sealant could just go in through the valves, zero mess. I still take a tube and pump out with me, no difference to tubes there, though I've never needed the tube. Not sure I'd go to the fuss of converting an existing bike though.
@MB-ek1ub
@MB-ek1ub Жыл бұрын
For CX it also depends on your surroundings. Here in 🇳🇱 tubes work fine, but once on holiday in 🇫🇷 i got punctures from thorns every other day. Can see the added value of tubeless in that case.
@gmbn
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Agreed! The gnarlier the terrain, the more of an advantage running tubeless will give you. 👍
@raff5604
@raff5604 Жыл бұрын
Don't be fooled. The sealant would have just made a mess. At least you can repair a tube. Once you puncture a tubeless tire it's not repairable and you have to use a tube anyway.
@pycanthusderossi4665
@pycanthusderossi4665 Жыл бұрын
@@raff5604 You can repair it in a similar fashion as a car tire is repaired. And are you speaking from experience that the sealant doesn't work or is that just your expectation?
@raff5604
@raff5604 Жыл бұрын
@@pycanthusderossi4665 Unfortunately I am speaking from experience. I have had three pin like punctures that just would not seal on the road bike. Then on the mountain bike I had a blow out and all the sealant did was make a mess. I still run tubeless on the MTN but tubes for the road.
@Willowheli
@Willowheli 11 ай бұрын
@@raff5604 Google ,lezyne tubeless repairkit. The misinformation about tubeless is just bizarre.
@yannhenriot2568
@yannhenriot2568 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this smile you have when hanging the tube
@R3ddyyg
@R3ddyyg Жыл бұрын
I run my enduro with tubes and my DH with insert in the back and tubeless, best of both worlds imo
@tammylivermore96
@tammylivermore96 Жыл бұрын
Glenn here on my wifes account after purchasing a new bike after 15 years since my last one all the modern changes were insane when asked if I wanted mt 2022 GT force carbon pro set up tubeless I said no im so old school and need to get use to all the changes first then thought about it and come up with most of the issues raised here in this video I'll never change to tubeless and after hearing it from the experts only proves my thought's to stay tubed is the way to go
@stewartjackson1821
@stewartjackson1821 Жыл бұрын
I recently damadged my rear tyre, I was running tubeless. If I had been better prepared I could have fixed it. In the end having a tube in the pack pack sure is a good get out if you run tubeless 😉
@heathr2072
@heathr2072 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard a person running tubeless say “you know what I’m gonna run tubes again”. As for set up I just bead the tyre then use a syringe no fuss no mess. It was interesting to hear you have to carry a pump. To be safe you should carry one and if you need to replace a tube you will need one regardless. Tubeless for me the whole way
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 Жыл бұрын
I went back to tubes. I didn't like how soft the sidewalls were with tubeless, tons of tire roll for my style of riding. There was no balance between pressure and roll. With tubes I could still run a lower pressure with the added sidewall stiffness which let me corner a lot faster. There's no one answer for everyone.
@raff5604
@raff5604 Жыл бұрын
Sealant never worked...I went back to tubes on both my road bikes and mountain bike.
@oscarm.4078
@oscarm.4078 3 ай бұрын
I have... Just read the comments lol
@HyperBiker
@HyperBiker Жыл бұрын
I got back into MTB during COVID and within the first week or two got a few punctures. And I live in the flatlands of Suffolk. Went tubeless and not had a puncture since.
@johnlantz7278
@johnlantz7278 Жыл бұрын
Having retired more time to ride tubes are always in mind for a trail repair an cash is king on maintaining a good day of enjoyment out on a trail or any wear on a ride most flats happen close to home. Thanks 😊
@jjmaxx3834
@jjmaxx3834 6 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the olden days when tubular/sew-up tires ruled. Some advantages for racers but not for the everyday rider.
@gatitodura
@gatitodura Ай бұрын
I was thinking in changing to tubeless, but after this video I won't. I like simplicity. Thanks man.
@captjerski4165
@captjerski4165 Жыл бұрын
During the 90s IRC tubes were thick, I put car tire sealant and solve my John Tomac tire punctures, the tube sticks to the inner wall of the tire.
@mrmcdermo
@mrmcdermo Жыл бұрын
The tube in the rear of my 24 year old XC racer (Jamis Dakota) is…24 years old. I’m kinda surprised the tire and tube aren’t rotted out but they aren’t. Leaks a bit of air over the winter months but that’s it.
@kerneldave
@kerneldave Жыл бұрын
There’s inner tubes that have that in them. When you get a puncture, the sealant fills the hole so you can just pump it up and be on your way 🤟🏻
@skartimusprime4779
@skartimusprime4779 Жыл бұрын
I remember that from way back in the 90s lol. Was pretty ass back then i think, probably now now 😁
@jasonvanderwarf3963
@jasonvanderwarf3963 Жыл бұрын
I have to say The upfront cost of going tubless maybe somewhat expensive however once you have it it remains cheaper than buying tube after tube after tube. Also, adding sealant is not a mess at all if your using the valve stem. Were they have removable valve cores which all of the tubeless valve stems have, there is no reason to ever have to break the seal of the tire. I just feel like there is so much more benefit in the tubeless setup then the tubes. Just one rider's opinion though.
@jimihendrix731
@jimihendrix731 Жыл бұрын
I’m a professional bike tech and avid rider, primarily road but also do quite a bit of single track. Tubeless is great until it’s not. Tubes are easy to mess with, predictable, and cheap. I would rather deal with glued on tubulars than road tubeless. One great thing that’s come from the tubeless system is the sealant. It works wonderfully on tubular tires and there is no longer a need to carry a full spare tubular.
@MoOutdoorsandReviews
@MoOutdoorsandReviews Жыл бұрын
great points, good video
@hotelbergen8858
@hotelbergen8858 Жыл бұрын
A great video again guys!
@gmbn
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Thanks!
@feroxprodz4963
@feroxprodz4963 Жыл бұрын
For off-road tube is better... So, for not changing the tires everytime, I prefer the Slime tube ready with sealant, and is working perfect in all terrain
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM 5 ай бұрын
I tried tubeless for trail riding and loved the feel. I am planning to give it a shot again this year.
@chrisarksey
@chrisarksey Күн бұрын
I was about to convert my new T8 to tubeless...now I'm going to wait.
@davidwangeman11
@davidwangeman11 Жыл бұрын
I've been running tubes since I started and was thinking about going tubeless. After this video I think I'll wait.
@paulg7002
@paulg7002 7 ай бұрын
Great video. I tried tubeless during the summer. The liquid lasted 3 months then started leaking air like crazy around the valve. I decided to go back to tubes. I am a weekend rider and it just wasn't practical. Taking the tire off was tough because of the sealent along the foldable tire. Finally muscled it and then spent time peeling off the rubberized sealant. Now it is back to the tube glory.
@daviddoornenbal44
@daviddoornenbal44 Жыл бұрын
I've had a few dinged rims with tubeless, but i just bent them back with a pair of big pliers and then its seals great again
@FirepoiMo
@FirepoiMo 9 ай бұрын
I put baby powder between tubes and tyres. Doesnt help with punctures, but feels much better when driving with low pressure, as the tube can move freely.
@DownTheHill3
@DownTheHill3 Жыл бұрын
went tubeless in 2016, IVE NEVER had a flat, and life has been bliss. to each his own, but to say dont go tubeless as the title states, is reckless and irresponsible 🤣
@Apple_Beshy
@Apple_Beshy Жыл бұрын
reckless? care to elaborate with that?
@rogerdodger1790
@rogerdodger1790 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, tubeless since 2018 and never had a single issue
@kostello2011
@kostello2011 Жыл бұрын
Cushcore + tubeless = no problems
@DavidMaruca_
@DavidMaruca_ Жыл бұрын
Tubeless since 2019, no flats yet 2016-2019 I had almost a dozen flats due to thorns.
@zubertish
@zubertish Жыл бұрын
Love it. Went tubed or 'rigid' as some tire manuf's call it and never looked back. Besides, ever see a bike with sealant bosses? Nuff said.
@johnmurrin9734
@johnmurrin9734 2 ай бұрын
switching setups keeps profits high. thanks to so many people who will buy pretty much anything they see on a commercial. go ahead and seal your rims with a bottle of glue when thats all a tube is, except its already been made at a factory
@BushcraftAI
@BushcraftAI Жыл бұрын
I love hardtail. So I have vibrocore rims with low-pressure tubeless to be my suspension. And its work!
@nfcc1
@nfcc1 Жыл бұрын
Switched to tubeless both on my mtb and road bikes years ago and would absolutely not go back. Haven’t had issues with it and the only flat I’ve ever got on tubeless was quickly fixed by the sealant (it was on the road bike, which can be a little more challenging with the higher pressures). And if you carry a spare tube for the event that the sealant won’t work, you’re in a similar situation as running tubes - you unseat the tire, take out the valve and put a tube in. Not much different from replacing a tube!
@allahuakbar7717
@allahuakbar7717 Жыл бұрын
Tubeless is more work
@danmccabe2004
@danmccabe2004 Жыл бұрын
Been tubeless for years, only had one hole that didn’t seal itself . Which I plugged and never had to put a tube in
@nukedathlonman
@nukedathlonman Жыл бұрын
Tubes here - but my MTB is older and not tubeless ready. And since the wheels ain't broke, and I can run my 26er tires sufficiently low on air with out pinch flats, don't see the reason of replacing the wheels (leave that for when I finally decide to no longer party like it's 2004).
@rupedog
@rupedog Жыл бұрын
Last time at windhill, hitting jumps, my riding buddy got a pinch-flat / snakebite in both wheels (separately). No issues with my tubeless set up. Tubeless is a no brainer for anything than gravel paths (with.no thorns).
@nucleardwarf1218
@nucleardwarf1218 Жыл бұрын
Best piece of advice that I have seen on MTB sites bar none. Tubeless is simple and inexpensive, easy to repair and no mess. Long may tubeless rule!!!!
@MrLmao37
@MrLmao37 Жыл бұрын
I run tubes still, I live in West Texas and we have goat heads (grass burrs) I use slime in my tubes as I have seen more problems with tubeless than tubes. Sealant goes off really quick if the bike stands for a few weeks.
@SUNGSAM_777
@SUNGSAM_777 Жыл бұрын
Another great video BTW.
@pipappleyard3982
@pipappleyard3982 Жыл бұрын
I’ve tried out a slime filled inner tube. The reason is because the rim on my Voodoo Bizango makes it really hard to swap inner tubes. I might have to look for a good rim that is good value for money, and is ready to swap one tubes with.
@Michael-qy7xv
@Michael-qy7xv Жыл бұрын
Voodoo Bizango owner here and converted to tubeless easily with the standard rims. I did change tyres at the same time.
@hydroelement9349
@hydroelement9349 Жыл бұрын
Tubes all day. Easy to deal with, makes riding more fun when I don't have to worry about all the cons that come with tubeless.
@getstrongby4038
@getstrongby4038 Жыл бұрын
My bike came set up tubeless, haven't had to do anything since
@bobothericefarmer1878
@bobothericefarmer1878 Жыл бұрын
I run tubeless the down side is that if u get a puncture in ur tire that the sealant can’t seal u gotta change the whole tire even worst when the tire is new even worst if u dent ur rim u gotta change ur rim bc u will always leak the sealant
@timboha8191
@timboha8191 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a tube guy, but last few weeks I’ve been getting multiple thorn punctures on the same ride. Last ride I got three at the same time and I could see that wouldn’t have happened tubeless. So ordered up some stuff last night.
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Жыл бұрын
I went tubeBliss, and never looked back. you have to check your air pressure before every ride, but you should be doing that anyway.
@brianwright9514
@brianwright9514 Жыл бұрын
Since my MTB and road bikes were converted to tubeless, I've only had one complete flat that I couldn't ride on. That was because I ran over an old steel fence post just barely out of the ground that had basically rusted to a point.
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
@@brianwright9514 But can you swap tires on the same wheels twice a week? I may finally go tubeless with another wheelset, but I'm still trying to settle on the tires.
@brianwright9514
@brianwright9514 Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve I mean, you can. It's a bit messy, as others have pointed out, but it's definitely doable. But if I was doing that very often at all, I'd just get a second wheel set.
@jcvdphoenix1987
@jcvdphoenix1987 5 ай бұрын
You just have to check your tires pressure ! And tubless system is an automatic repair ! I loose more time to change tubes and pump it by hands or repair it because also it depends on the quality of your tubes , for me it's definitely more pro ! Use new tires and pump it at the right pressure with tubless system it will make you more confortable 😉
@richardpickering2452
@richardpickering2452 10 ай бұрын
Tubes with pipe insulation and Stans, job done.
@TheDedicatedcyclist
@TheDedicatedcyclist Жыл бұрын
Make sure to bring PLYERS of some type with you on the trail. You will need them to loosen the valve stem on the tubeless setup. One more thing to carry with your spare tube. Otherwise you may find yourself walking when you can't get the tubeless valve stem out.
@geraldhenrickson7472
@geraldhenrickson7472 Жыл бұрын
Nope. They should be hand tight. Why would you need to remove them on the trail?
@TheDedicatedcyclist
@TheDedicatedcyclist Жыл бұрын
@@geraldhenrickson7472 You have yet to experience the tubeless failures including the valves
@craighorner4607
@craighorner4607 8 ай бұрын
I will never do 2 things. #1 run tubeless. The tires do not fit the rim properly and are a nightmare to remove to patch a tube. The tires almost require a pair of tin snips to remove them #2 no front derailleur Planning ahead may be required but at least the ratios work and all I have to do is to plan a front shift in the best spot possible on the trail when its needed
@mds1422
@mds1422 Ай бұрын
Back in 2015 when i started riding mtn bikes again, i would flat probably on 1/3 of my rides. On a fat bike, thats gets expensive. Since switching to tubless, i haven't had a flat. 9 years without a flat. Thats riding bike park and local trails 1-2 times a week. Also, running lower pressures without worrying about pinch flats is another great benefit. I'll never go back to tubes on a mtb or gravel bike.
@sanity114
@sanity114 9 ай бұрын
I have rode for two years every weekend on my tubes and just found my first slow leak on a tube..no mess..no fuss...just switched it out in a few minutes and back riding again...
@zebbenbrown1301
@zebbenbrown1301 Жыл бұрын
In SoCal we have these goat head thorns all over. Tubes stand no chance against them but with tubeless I just remove the thorns and make sure I add fresh sealant every couple months and I’m good to go
@pollonero3
@pollonero3 Жыл бұрын
I have a tube in the front and an insert in the back with some tubeless sealant. I was thinking to use one of the new generation tubes like the Pirelli scorpion or Tubolito, do you have any experience with these? Do you recommend?
@manalotomanaloto
@manalotomanaloto Жыл бұрын
I live and ride in the desert southwest - tubeless is the only way to go. I switched to tubeless after frequent punctures from cactus thorns. As far as maintenance, I remove the valve core and inject the sealant with a sealant syringe; easy and clean process.
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone Жыл бұрын
"Why you shouldn't go tubeless, yet." Me, who has been tubeless since 2018: "fuck!"
@jakegreenwald469
@jakegreenwald469 2 ай бұрын
It’s as simple as using a wide ratchet strap belt, the thick yellow ones! You will never have a flat again! Use it as a tire liner!
@ncryptd
@ncryptd Жыл бұрын
I converted from tubeless to tubes injected with tubeless sealant. No flats since on desert trails where there is a lot of cactus.
@arc9812
@arc9812 7 ай бұрын
I use tubes in my Trek xc bike, and tubeless in my polygon trail bike, and use the tubes that came with the trail bike as spares.
@rickmortyson4861
@rickmortyson4861 Жыл бұрын
Pro tip. Use tubes. If you get a puncture use some emergency tire sealant. In germany most of the people can fill air in their tire at any gas station because we have the same valves as cars do.
@barrycorney3665
@barrycorney3665 Жыл бұрын
Yep but you can for a couple of pounds get a small brass adaptor that screws on to a presta valve and then allows a schrader pump to inflate it also.
@dresnick12
@dresnick12 2 ай бұрын
MTB. When I used tubes I got punctures almost every other ride, mainly from thorns. I Switched to tubeless about 6 years ago and never got a single puncture ever since. I did got a single (!) loss of air by hitting a rock that pushed the bid away from the rim, and all I had to do was to reinflate in the field. I am talking about 6 years!!! Inner tubes are a nightmare if you have sharp objects in your area. Can't comment on road bike.
@raphaelbrunner4392
@raphaelbrunner4392 Жыл бұрын
nice video and i see your tube on the bike, but where is the pump?
@turbodrift255
@turbodrift255 Жыл бұрын
I am using a tube until now and havent a flat for years. I use schwalbe super gravity tires. Heavy but pretty safe.
@recuperacion420
@recuperacion420 Жыл бұрын
Sure tubeless in general is more bomb proof, but what I hate are the clogged valve cores, the sticky walls inside the tire when they bond to each other when u do get a flat or want to change tire , the hard tire beads that break tire levers, the layers of dry latex inside the tire that turno into balls of latex ñ. I prefer Tubeless rear wheel, tubed front wheel. Full Tubeless only for racing. I miss the old UST Tubeless tires that worked well without sealant.
@METEORA_47
@METEORA_47 Жыл бұрын
tube with insert for my hardcore hardtail tyre is my choice 🤘
@BOMEISTER2000
@BOMEISTER2000 Жыл бұрын
I used to ride tubeless, but tried a tannus armour and a welterweight Maxxis tube + a good dose of talcom powder to prevent flats Been running that tube for over a year now! I used to get pinch flats constantly so switched to tubeless for years or so, but since using the tannus, a thicker tube and lots of powder it's not punctured since. I had to carry a spare tube strapped to my frame with tubeless anyways incase of tears. So now it's just a spare. Got a new emtb recently and will keep tubes on front now also, never punctured a front so why bother with tubeless (even without tannus armour) I haven't pumped rear tire in like months. My tubeless front on my downhill bike needs a pump every few weeks. Another win for tubes! Tannus on rear also feels nice too, makes the rear feel a little bit more planted. Much better feeling than a cushcore because it hugs the tire wall
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM 5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what Tannus armour is, but does that not add weight to your wheel? I like to keep everything as light as reasonably possible--especially when it cones to rotational weight. Maxxis has lighter tubes than the welterweight. I'm not sure, but I think they are called Flylight--sub 100 grams.
@DJ.V-W
@DJ.V-W Жыл бұрын
I'll stick with tubes for simplicity and I hardly if ever get punctures, last one was probably around 4 years ago, I do have slime filled tubes though, so maybe that helps!
@Memories4lifemedia
@Memories4lifemedia Жыл бұрын
you forgot that you can have liquid in tubes as well... thats what i use.. not a light but two layers of rubber with sealant had.. a few punctures never had a flat... sealent only thing holding my iner tubes together lol
@skooterbrah
@skooterbrah Жыл бұрын
Where I live there are massive amounts of goat heads, which are hard, sharp, large, and quite nasty thorns. I normally have to pull dozens of these monsters out of my tires during any ride, even on the road. I ran tubeless for a while, and was constantly having to add air, and eventually found the sealant dried up, and was left with a very flat tire, and an unpleasant mess. I went back to tubes with Slime sealant and almost never have any issues. I will admit that tubeless feels great, but I don't think that it is particularly useful for the environment that I ride.
@josiahmontgomery4860
@josiahmontgomery4860 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like living in Reno
@HarborEdwin
@HarborEdwin 24 күн бұрын
I hate tubeless! Finally found my perfect, better than tubeless anti-flat system. Tannus Armour Tire Inserts! I run them with, yes I really do, undersized Slim Extra Strong self sealing tubes. Aaaand, I run my regular 28psi front & rear, because the Tannus make for softer tread pressure with 2x improved Traction. : ))
@Kandalf8989
@Kandalf8989 9 ай бұрын
I never had any puncture on my 2017 Scott Gambler 720 during 2018-2021 ownership... run stock TUBES which> the bike came with. 2.35 width schwalbe magic marry tires. Rode downhill only sharp rocks, sharp tree leftovers lots and lots of jumps and abuse.. It's just people either don't inflate them that much, in regards to having better traction or just not careful enough tubes.. Having said that currently own Scott Ransom 910 and converted them to tubeless and it's first time will be riding tubeless in my life. Already can say indeed pretty expensive, and so much headache putting sealant, however weight saving is well worth.
@markyp1965
@markyp1965 Жыл бұрын
Converted to tubeless almost 10 years ago and haven’t run into any problems since then. Would never see any reason to go back to running tubes other than as a temporary fix if a tyre got ripped. The amount of times on group rides where we were waiting around for ages whilst riders repaired punctures or replaced a tube (not great when the weather was wet and cold). Running tubeless is a no brainer to me.
@cryptoninjaz
@cryptoninjaz Ай бұрын
I'm using tubeless now and will never go back !!
@TheSirHoschi
@TheSirHoschi Жыл бұрын
I got back from vacation in Tuscany yesterday where I did a few laps on my trike. In the left frontwheel stuck 13 thorns, in the right 4. I have not count the thorns on the backwheel. I think, Tubeless saved the fun for me.
@gromhub
@gromhub Жыл бұрын
I literally used a gmbn video to learn how to fit my tubeless kit 🤯😵‍💫🤣
@doctajuice
@doctajuice Жыл бұрын
yeahhhhh i went from pinch flats every ride to not seeing a single puncture for several years now since going tubeless.. still carry a tube in my pack for long rides just in case but i promise the extra maintenance and up-front cost is very much worth it
@onerider808
@onerider808 Жыл бұрын
How are those inserts? Will they work for aggressive riding?
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM 5 ай бұрын
When I first ran tubeless I did get a flat that required me to use a tube to get home. I do not recall it being all that messy--I certainly did not get sealant all over everything.
@corsadonk
@corsadonk Жыл бұрын
I went tubeless after storm Eunice this year when I picked up about 10 hawthorn thorns in each tyre and had to ring my wife to come and rescue me. Cost is the biggest factor I found doing it.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
In other words, you didn't bother to pack spare tubes, tire levers, and a pump.
@corsadonk
@corsadonk Жыл бұрын
@@Durwood71 had leavers, repair kit and a pump. So no spare tube but would have needed more than two because I was picking up so many thorns, I also got pretty cold trying to sort the first couple of leaks being on a exposed ridge in winter with it blowing a gale and pissing it down after riding in those conditions for well over 15 miles. So yeah I threw the towel in and rang my missus. 🤣
@JasonFoxLCB
@JasonFoxLCB Жыл бұрын
I'll have you know it's my two sons who are most likely to burp at the dinner table, thank you.
@list1278
@list1278 Жыл бұрын
I use Tubes too . I always put seal liquid into the tubes. works fine for me
@nicolaspade1341
@nicolaspade1341 Жыл бұрын
Tried tubeless… was great but I just have other issues and have several times had to stick in a tube. Currently haven’t been bothered to change back to tubeless… but back to punctures… they still suck!
@somerandomblokeybloke6033
@somerandomblokeybloke6033 Жыл бұрын
My bike came with tubeless and I did try to approach it with an open mind. But when one tyre was practically flat when I wanted to take the bike out one time, out went the tubeless and in went the tubes.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, why didn't you simply reinflate the tire?
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Жыл бұрын
Yes you do have to add air every now and then but you should be checking the pressure before every ride anyway.
@marrinermerrill20
@marrinermerrill20 Жыл бұрын
This video honestly makes me want to switch back to tubes haha.
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