Hey guys palsteron here

​@@fergusonja8 *proceeds to talk for 6 hours why boots with movespeed are good for your speed*

@@vadym5581 instructions unclear ended up back in act 1

yeah, too many make long ass wasted time videos.

But I have to watch 5 times

thanks for this!

TL;DR would be 1) Run tier 1 map, get tier 2 map 2) Run tier 2 map, get tier 3 map 3) Run tier 3 map, thus allowing it to drop from tier 1 maps. 4) Go back and run all tier 1 maps 5) Run tier 4 map, then go back to tier 2 maps, all tier 2 bosses will drop that tier 4 map you cleared 6) Repeat until completion

​​@@SpiderWevs not all bosses will drop 2 tier higher maps, they just have the chance to after you've completed that tier map im sure you know that just clarifying for those that dont

What do you mean when you say "map equity"? You mean that it will revert back to the "one tier higher or connected" rule?

@@mattb6646 My bad, yeah, drops are not guaranteed.

W8.... this is totally new info to me! (played since closed beta btw)... Are you saying that If you run the very first t11 you get after having corrupted it to get the bonus, then the boss CAN drop up to a t14? Even if you have not yet completed a t12, t13 or a t14? Presumably this also works for a t1 map then, but i guess most ppl don't start corrupting maps until t11 for the bonus objective...

@@Meisen1977 If you run a T11, and have T13 map unlocked (so the boss can naturally drop a +2 that you have available), then if boss drops corrupted loot (via being corrupted map or something else), that can corrupt the T13, turning it to a T14. This cannot happen if you don't have a T13 that would drop in the first place.

Now i understand, ty for the clarification kind sir

Thanks, I did not understand what he tried to explain. After reading your comment I watched his example again and now I understand.

correct me if im wrong, so i need to enter at least one T3 maps before im doing my T1s, to enable my T1 bosses to have T3 map drops too right?

This makes sense now.

@@ZyLici0uS this is what I understood, but I believe you have to kill the boss, not simply enter

@@francoismentec4260 Yea. You don't want to be entering maps and not get completion early on, you want as much completion as possible as fast as possible.

He is a speedrunner, this is the long version!

I'm guessing it will be a regular thing now that he's on maxroll

Heres a thing, What if i need t4 maps and i have to run t2 maps and the only t2s are the completed ones

Thank you

So always run 2 tiers behind

Ty

@@kevinduong8534 Horizon orb and selling your T1 maps. 3-maps=higher tier map.

That's what I understood too. And yes after doing the t3 you complete all t1 and after t4 all the t2 if possible. Don’t forget about kirac shop and the 3 maps vendor recipe

Just marking your comment.

you complete all the ones you have available, don't focus so much on "complete every single tier 2" to the point where you're spending time trying to find the last tier 2 map you don't have.

As I understand it the beginning is a bit different. So how I understand it is as follows; For t1 and t2 you pick 1 map out of each tier you like and you run exclusively that map. The other t1's and t2's you do not run. So in 3.21 we'll have Bone Crypt, Scriptorium, Alleyways and Colonnade in t1. Say you like Colonnade the best, cool. You get to maps and you run your colonnade's and only the colonnades. As soon as a T2 drops however, you run that T2. Say Silo is your first T2 drop. You then run Silo and only Silo maps. You do that until you get a T3 map, say strand is your first t3 drop, you run your strand map and once you completed that, THEN you can go back and complete the other T1 maps you have not completed yet. You can then run any T1 map you want, but you can still only run Silo as your T2 because that's what you got completed. Then when a t4 map drops, let's say fields, you run the fields and then you can back and complete the other T2's if you want until you drop a T5, after which you can complete all t3's, and so on and so forth. So to sum up: 1. Pick a T1 you like; Run it and only it until you drop a T2 2. Run that T2 map, after which you can either run your chosen T1 map OR the T2 map you just completed, don't run any other T1's or T2's. 3. Run those until you drop a T3 4. Run that T3 map, after that you can now run any of the T1 maps OR the T2 map you have completed OR the T3 map you have completed, no other maps 5. Until a T4 drops, you run the T4 after which you can run any of the T1 maps, any of the T2 maps, the ONLY T3 map you have completed OR the ONLY T4 you have completed, no other maps. 6. ???? 7. Apparently, profit

@@BWSSoldya I am saving your comment. Many thanks, this is so confusing for me

I still prefer the bottom up method, but I'm not trying to speedrun my atlas completion. The only downside to the bottom up strat is that it's slower.

@@KhronicD true. If i let myself, i will optimise the fun out of Any Game.

You want to run all of the same map on the same tier or that tier+1 until you unlock a map two tiers higher. Then once you complete the 2 tier higher map, you want to pick maps that are two tiers back that you have not completed before. Unless I'm also stupid, you don't want to spread your progression out on a tier until you've unlocked maps two tiers higher. And to unlock maps two tiers higher you want to run the same map two tiers lower instead of every map two tiers lower until you get a higher map drop.

@@randomly-genrated Jebaited

@@AGMI9 Don't be so sure he may actually be too stupid.

the X+1 tier

You also sleep in wrong positions. In case you wondering

@@EternalFlame74 how do you know? Hmmge

good question, T2 which you haven't completed is better because you need the atlas bonus

You would still run any uncompleted T1s to build a map pool even if you had a T4. That is because T1s can only drop Tier 1, 2 or 3.

@Sal_McCoy oh. You wouldnt do uncompleted tier 2s to try and get 3s n4s?

Exactly as you describe, consider using one chiesel on map and then alch and go and cross your fingers for map to drop

@@WafelixRox Thank you so much Sir Wafel.

Ideally yes, but maybe you'll have to run a few more to drop a map of the next tier If you run your first t2 but get no t3 drop, you'll want to run another t2 and so on, from what I understood at least.

@@SaintFranssoix first of all you shouldn't run more than 1 tier 2 untill you have run a tier 4 map. I think ideally you would want to run the same low tier and not get any completion on other maps before you have run a map +2 tiers higher

You wouldn't, map bosses drop maps 2 tiers higher only if you've done a map 2 tiers higher already. So if your highest map is a T3 you can only drop T4 maps, that's why you don't run T2's because they would only drop T3 maps. But once you do a T4 your T2's will now drop T4's. The whole point of this strategy is that your always doing maps with the intent to either progress your atlas +1 or your doing maps 2 tiers lower than your current highest map to force +2's. So if you only had T1, T2 and T3 maps, your highest map drop would be a T4 from a T3 map. However you can run T1's to get +2 drops to sustain your T3 maps, and once you do a single T4 your T2's you've stockpiled can be used to sustain your T4 map's so you can push into T5.

@@Rrezz Thanks, that explained the why part perfectly.

@@Rrezz so lets say in a perfect lucky world, I would get a +1 map every map from t1 to t15 and will be always doing them straight away. but let say that only works till t5. let say a) i got another t5, I would be running that t5 and hope for a t6 right? b) if i dont get the t6 and ran out of t5s, I would be running my t3s and hope for a t5 which I would then be running. i dont know. b) feels so weird. i will be running the t5 again with basically no map completion on the t1-t3 maps, therefore lacking atlas tree nodes, therefore beeing catapulted back to where i started. i guess i will be going for some kind of map completion until I get atleast one shaping node or smth. edit: b) could be wrong. even if a t3 would drop t5, i would go for map completion of t3s first and gather a bunch of t5s. a) still right though probably.

Also confused on this. It's explained as if your getting perfect +1 or +2 map drops on every completion. Or course it doesn't really matter to me as Kirac trivializes early map proggresion. My main issue comes in getting shafted by corrupted modifications for red tier bonus completions, and trying to gear for late maps/endgame. I usually burn out by the time or before I get my first t16 completion.

This is how I understood it, I replied to a different comment on this video with more details but here's the summary: So to sum up: 1. Pick a T1 you like; Run it and only it until you drop a T2 2. Run that T2 map, after which you can either run your chosen T1 map OR the T2 map you just completed, don't run any other T1's or T2's. 3. Run those until you drop a T3 4. Run that T3 map, after that you can now run any of the T1 maps OR the T2 map you have completed OR the T3 map you have completed, no other maps 5. Until a T4 drops, you run the T4 after which you can run any of the T1 maps, any of the T2 maps, the ONLY T3 map you have completed OR the ONLY T4 you have completed, no other maps. 6. Rinse and repeat. First T5 drop > Run that map > can now run all of t1, t2, t3 and the only completed T4 and the only completed T5, etc.

@@shadownightshade2420 Just wanted to make sure you saw my other reply to this comment as well ^^

@@BWSSoldya Thanks for the explanation. I understand now. I'll try this strat over the weekend and see if there's any noticeable change to my progression effeciency.

​​@@BWSSoldya Why would you run the same map over and over? Seems like a waste of time unless only not yet completed maps can drop the +2 maps. Also at your second point, you would want to run T2 maps only preferrably, not T1 or T2

That is porbably your atlas spec

Yes. T1 Maps can drop anywhere at anytime regardless of completion. Completing those maps won't increase/decrease their chances to drop. But it will increase the drop chance of T2s attached to them.

Remember that maps that are connected to the map you're running can still drop even if you've not completed them yet. Completing a map just adds it to the global drop pool. So yes you will get mostly the ones you've already completed, but you still have the chance of dropping connected maps naturally.

@@KhronicD im talking from experience, do this and you will get swarmed by the +2 tier of the map you are doing, also i dont know how "conected" a map is considered when you are doing a tier 4 and your only tier 6 discovered is not "conected" to that tier 4 because it is a t6...

@@irrelevant12 the point is that once you get to that stage you can either trade your t6s for a t7 or run a few of them to get some adjacent maps to drop or in case you already have a few horizon orbs dropped you can also use them to get 1-2 new t6s

A map boss can drop +2 rarely. Unless you have a. Tier 4 unlocked, you are not able to drop the tier 4 from tier 2. So he’s just saying make sure you have the ability for the tier 4 to drop

Because if you run all the maps that are 2 tiers higher than your lowest uncompleted map, you're wasting the potential map boss drops on same tier instead of getting higher tier.

@@dhineshbabu3519 I think +2 tiers map drops come from upgrading a +1 tier map drop from atlas passives that give a chance for maps to drop a tier higher. AFAIK the chance to drop a +2 tiers map is independent of the completion on the atlas. (besides atlas passives). Or did I miss something?

​@@korenn9381 I don't get what you are saying. The diagonal strategy suggests to always complete a single map that is 2 tiers higher than your lowest uncompleted map and then finish the lower tier maps before completing a map of the next highest tier. I suggest not completing the low tier maps but skip to the maps that are 2 (or maybe just 1) tier higher so you can drop both lower and higher tier maps that may be uncompleted instead of just having a chance to drop an uncompleted maps if you drop a higher tier map.

@@dubleblitz you want to complete tiers in order to get atlas points - but tyty says you should make sure that when you do, you always have a +2 map already completed so that if the boss drops a +2 map, it can.

No because you only run ONE specific map from the highest tier you have from what I understand, and once you reach a new tier you go back and complete all the maps 2 tiers lower

it looks like a top down strategy with an extra step where you simply delay running the 2ndHighestMapTier and go for lower map tier completion first. i simply do not believe the racers skip an uncompleted 2ndhigestmaptier map while they have completed all other maps.

it's because even tho a t1 map can drop a t3 map, you need a t3 map completed for that to happen so if ur running all your t1 maps before running any t3, ur effectively wasting t3 drops in return for useless equity TL;DR - a t1 (x) map cannot drop a t3 (x+2) map until you have completed that x+2 map. But once you have done it, all your tier X maps can now drop tier x+2, effectively giving you more x+2 maps to repeat the process

Buy from kirac

@@Tytykiller he is offering just t1 and the highest tier i just did Sadge