It’s over Anakin! I have the level ground!

Rare footage of matchmaking putting you with players of equal skill

I’ll be blocking with full stamina and then get force pulled/choked/thrown or even sometimes just completely demolished even in flat terrain. They need to fix blocking/evading especially after they took away stagger

At 8:07 Dooku slides across the map "I've become more powerful than any jedi"

Choke me through my block, daddy

A next level tip I can think of is taunting. I say this all the time to the people I play with. Many people taunt but they do it for the wrong reason. Taunting an opponent is pretty strategic, especially taunting a good opponent. The entire point is to make the opponent angry, it makes them reckless. I have saved so many targets because the best player on the enemy team chose to try and kill me instead of the target.

One tip I give is to try and jump up to higher ground than the opponent. Usually they try to jump up there with you. While they are jumping you can use one of your force abilities (Vader Choke, Luke Push, ect) to get them in mid air since they can not block while jumping. After you knock them down you can quickly dash down there and land a couple quick strikes before they get up. I frequently use this against players who are always blocking and wouldn’t normally be vulnerable to knock down abilities. This also works (much to Obi-Wans surprise) it you have lower ground than the opponent.

You should legit be a motivational speaker. You’re so naturally inspiring

He has control of the tips and secrets, he’s too powerful to be kept alive!

“Be patient” is probably still my greatest weakness and I’ve got heroes leveled in the 200’s. That one takes a while to get over lol.

“As long as you’re not spamming,” *starts spamming general grievous*

I agree, the jumping attacking method can be powerful when well used

This is why the high ground is important in dueling 1:16

I have been on a flat surface with block not moving and get forced thrown, froze or choked. I've been rushed with players who are not fully equipped and get taken out. HvV is a very frustrating game. It comes down to lobbies and people who have strategies. Going alone usually will end up in a rage out. Matchmaking is flawed.

Lucky you held off on the commentary for a couple seconds otherwise you wouldn't have reached that 10:00 mark 😉 Solid video man, some great tips in here!

people really need this. the small nuances of the saber combat is very important. the stats and "frame data" (if you play fighting games) are really good to know.

After months of watching QuinnKnight, I had to do a double take when you said something encouraging and positive. Great vid man, looking forward to the next one.

Thank you Star Bazaar!! This is very helpful

The other good thing about jump attacks is that the hitbox is a lot larger than the standard strike, so instead of constantly lunging and missing, the jump attack will hit. But it does leave you vulnerable to force abilities and being shot

I’ve been looking forward to this 😊

Dude the comment you made about no two games ever being the same is completely accurate. I’ve played this game almost every night online for the past year and a half, and I’ve always enjoyed it without getting bored.

Absolutely agree about the practice and finding things on your own, movement was the first point in another one of your lightsaber combat guides and I remembered how far I've come in every factor of such combat to the point my friend and I are almost unbeatable in 2v2, it all started with me saying "the defensive player almost always wins over the aggressive" at the time it was simply me saying "spammers get wrecked" but I've come to understand far more since on my way to levelling almost all heroes and villains to 100+ with only showdown, that this is all down to the patience required in aggression, defence and movement.

You’ve got the best tutorials on YT bro. Keep it up. Excellent content .

You continuously put out some of the best educational videos for this game I have seen. Awesome! It was subtle, but the notion of trying new things in your practice section is key. If you are having a lot of trouble with something and you just keep doing the same thing over and over, you will never overcome it except by coincidence. It is important to have different techniques for different situations. Good opponents will figure out your strategy and they will counter it with something that gives them their best chance to win. If I can tell that a particular player really knows how to counter something I am doing, I will change to a different strategy that I know to be more likely to succeed against their hero of choice and play style. For instance, I was playing HvV and went up against someone who was masterful with Palpatine in Jabba's Palace. In truth, our team was outmatched as a whole. I decided to switch to Rey so my team would get the benefit of my insight ability and I still had the ability to mindtrick and use my speed and increased stamina to deal with Palpatine. Other heroes may have done well too but they weren't available. So basically I drove the guy insane by not giving him a second to breath, landing hits in combination with well timed blocking all along the way and widdling him down to his demise. By taking his dominance out of the picture, the rest of my team could be productive and eventually I forced the good player to do something different allowing us to get a victory. Big props to the observation with how the environment affects blocking BTW! It sort of explains why I don't have a problem with my block like a lot of players report. I feel more comfortable fighting in parts of the map that I can really dodge around on so I tend to direct all my combat into those areas as much as possible and they tend to be flat areas. I don't think I would have ever figured out that the environment was changing the status of my block. Great observation!

As someone who considers themselves to be top-tier at saber combat, I would say that all of these tips are really good.

This is a really well put together video, lots of useful tips and advice. Thank you sir, please make more when you can

Awesome tutorial man, many thanks for the great help it’s provided!

omg I am so glad I saw this in your list. I always wondered why I was being killed so fast when I know I was blocking. You rock.

Thank you so helpful!

Though I didn't learn anything new, I appreciate you putting this together and I'm sure many people will learn from it. It's videos like this + practice that have helped me to have such a deep understanding of this game and how to properly use saber heroes.

This video helped a lot thanks!

The first tips video on youtube that actually isn’t about the most basic in game mechanics!

You all know that pro Luke on the enemy team that pushes you off the ledge a mile and a half away

This is an underrated channel and I’ve been with you for a long time. We need to put more people on this mans channel

Nailed it with the terrain man!! Often wondered that, and I think the same thing happens when cancelling out a whole host of heroes abilities

Almost at 15k! Well deserved 👏👏👏

Keep up the good work bro

Great tips love it

The tips are brilliant

Hey I found your tips and videos really educational and at the same time soothing and fun to watch nice job

You should be able to stagger an opponent if you block right before they attack. I think that might further incentivize not being a blocksalot, especially if doing that would drain the enemy's stamina.

I have 80 hours in this game and I knew about the terrain blocking glitch almost as soon as I tried HVV. If they gave every lightsaber character the ability to block in midair (for twice the stamina per instance of damage reflected), the problem would be solved.

very insightful bud

My favourite part, is when I’m matched against people 130 levels higher than me.

Very usefull advices! I like your content

Useful tips 👌🏻

Good video man, helpful info

1st BF2 content creator who knows what he's talking about. I'm proud.

I love you thanks man

Thanks bazar for helping the newbies

Loving these tips. Will practice them. Im not the best on the ground...i do seem to do mich better on starfighter but i want to improve my ground game and these videos really help.

I love this tutorial. Amazing teacher

I was just asking myself why my blocks weren't working an hour ago on one of my first online duels and this comes into my recommended. Nice

Thanks!

Great vid 🤗

Wow really helpful guide, good tips I’ll use!

You are such a good teacher

Love the video, thanks! HvV was my fav mode but there are just too many bugs with abilities so I’m on C S now. Even in your vid they bugged out a few times

Thanks for the tips I really do need to be more patient

Thanks for the tips man, I'd like more videos like this if you didn't mind

This is really late but Im new sub thank you for the videos

Good stuff

Nice video i figured the block bug out also in hvvV a few days ago

A little trick I use especially with Dooku isdouble press attack, this will go 3 hits, then short jump attack in mid air (not planning to hit) then as soon as you land, attack which automatically goes to your dash slash, then back into double press attack then to shock. It wipes out any hero if you start it off with a hit.

OMG NOW IT MAKES SENSE

This helped...a lot....

I've noticed a huge thing with dueling is that if your hits are connecting or your getting spammed sometimes your dodge doesn't work the animation won't let you get away and the way to counter that if your not dead already is to jump out of the situation you might take damage but at least you can get clear and begin dodging again. Also the other tip is when your running low on stamina your abilities become a huge asset to not only help eliminate your opponent but also sort of create a window of rest for your stamina so you can recover some of it. you have to find that fine balance between using your blade and your abilities in coordination with your stamina each character is different and so is their recovery time. you learn how to behave accordingly to the characters play style

Great tips, well explained, we need less spammers and more strategic fighters to keep the game competitive and fun, well done. Hope to play with you again!

thanks

Great video, Very helpful, and I know most of this from experience like the Terrain-then theirs the hit detection because you could be in the Air and Die from a Hit that Shouldn’t have hit you, The Damage should only be Legit if your on the ground not in the Air unless you actually see it hit you instead of a few sparks

Good tips

This Chanel has made me a pretey good duelist

Sometimes the terrain itself makes certain situations more difficult than they should be. Blocking in mid air seems like an easy fix to me. Also I feel like we should be able to swing a lightsaber with no stamina, even if it’s slow and/or weak. It seems ridiculous at times when both fighting saber users run out of stamina and abilities so the only thing left to do is run away

As a relative noob I mostly spam dash attack and add some strikes. Rarely do I block another hero if I can evade. Whenever I block I die. It's too laggy of a mess for me for the block to be predictable. Learned a few things here though, thank you.

The best tip I can give is, Have the mind set of the characters you are playing, it's very helpful and it boosts performance, like a positive self talk and adrenaline

Bruh you’re a pro. No doubt about it.

You can also open the ground attacks by using a low jump attack used as close as possible before touching the ground. Works best with quick guys like maul or Luke. U do double dmge in like no time if its needed or if u want so

Could you make a Video for each Hero/Villain where you show the best combinations of abilities+doge+Jump for them.

Nice intel😉

You actually had some spot on tips it'd be fun to try and fight you could be interesting

Turning your sensitivity up helps

Star Bazaar you're really great with Obi-Wan Lol. You might not be comp overall according to you, but you are with Kenobi

I love you channel

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"But you're better than that; you're patient, and that's why you'll win".

To give you an idea of the fighting style of the characters define thier lightsaber form (kylo ren + rey is shii-cho, Dooku is makashi, obi-wan has soresu which I expect him to have the highest stamina pool.) don't underestimate form 1 because that is whst kylo's attacks are.

This is more of a follow up to this video since some game updates have been published: 1.) you’re 100% correct; the game doesn’t recognize elevation changes properly. This doesn’t just affect blocks but strike and ability detection. Maps like Falluca are especially bad for this. There’s very little you can do about it at this point, the maps are stunning for their visuals (except Scariff which is a low res port) but they’re not the best for the mechanics of this game. 2.) jump shots are a bit different anymore. Most players, especially experienced ones don’t do much high jumping because it exposes you to abilities. That said the nature of “jump strikes” now is more of a hit detection exploit. This sees players making short jumps right in front of a blocking saber opponent in an attempt to see the hit detection recognize the strike. This is a haphazard and doesn’t register consistently because it’s not a proper mechanic. 3. Timing .. this is probably the worst aspect of the game. Pre-TROS update all of the information in this video regarding timing was correct, now it isn’t. In TROS update the Devs modified the Dodge to Attack timing, increasing the delay and creating a horrible environment. Many of us on the EA forums were successful in getting the Devs to modify this but in doing so the timing aspect of the game is still clumsy. Combine this with the server state and the “timing” elements are a mashup that feels more RNG than proper timing. The game still does stack strikes and abilities but does so in a slow and shoddy manner, combined with the input lag this creates a lack of proper feedback to the player. 4.) Going a little further on the timing aspect above is Character imbalance. In an effort to try and fix underwhelming players characters like Leia, Hann, Rey, Luke, Vader, GG, Fett, etc have seen adjustments to their stats .. unfortunately they’re not all balanced. Luke, for example, has such a high mobility the current strat IS to spam a combination of Strike+Dodge+Dash in any order. This will see Luke not register most strikes and abilities used against him, regardless of timing. This is because the server is unable to Resolve Luke in the space and time he’s supposed to be in. A similar strat exists for Rey but moreso is rooted on her strike distance being so high. Characters at this point are highly imbalanced and we see a lot of players gravitating to the broken and exploitable characters, assuming they’re supposed to work this way. 5. Be careful with the “lock on” aspect of the game. The Devs have made changes to the camera behavior that does impact lock on as well as hit detection. For example, you can rotate your camera 180 degrees and take a strike or a shot, resulting in your character triggering a hit marker while facing the wrong way or a shot blast coming from your back. The animations and game mechanics are out of sync; this is also why you’ll see blaster users continuing to fire shots even as they’re being knocked down or still in the knock down animation. After TROS update we’ve seen a lot of changes to gameplay logic that seemingly failed to take the overall mix of characters into account; this combined with the server state has made the game very inconsistent so while many of the tips in this video are still very much good & relevant; don’t be surprised if you see different results.

Another tip is to use your dodges, whenever I play saber characters, I make sure I’m constantly moving if I’m not blocking. Time then right and you can dodge behind your opponent and get a free hit. And make sure you conserve them too, if you get hit, don’t spam dodge.

Heres some tips: Mix it up, for instance, attack dodge attack spin-attack dodge, the point is to give some time for things to recover, so you have an extra spin attack when needed etc. Use the unorthodox, contrary to the above tip, it may be beneficial to use three spin attacks in a row, especially if they don't expect it. Lower your guard for a split second, this will cause your opponent to waste an ability. After a successful block, you should attack once then go back to blocking. This usually does damage. You should be offensive. Not to say you should always attack, but you should work on getting into a good position. (High ground.) Dash through your opponent and back, this will turn them around and give you a moment to attack. Some have turned their back to me and dashed backwards, exposing my back to an attack. Use the environment. For instance, a good ambush point is around corners. Wait with your lightsaber off (press G on PC). Or use a pillar to block while you recover stamina. Sneak attacks work. Try approaching an enemy from the rear by jumping and landing behind them while your saber is off. Don't use a jump attack as it makes noise. Works best with Rey's insight. Some force abilities make your opponent wait, use Obi-Wans push to buy time to recover stamina and health. Learn from your opponent.

The air attacks are especially helpful. If you pick up Super Smash Bros it really helps train your timing as far as jumping and aerials

also another tip: when you throw your light saber as vader or mual make sure your far from a wall when your hitting your target because if the saber hits the wall it wont come back for a 2nd hit and basically just teleport back to your hand. so if you wanna hit your target make sure their away from a wall so the saber can do a 2nd hit

I’ve suspected terrain was partly an issue in strikes or even Force powers breaking through my block. Although, I’m pretty sure it’s been on level field too. Not 100% certain, without replay. I could have stepped on a thing without realizing. Still, that level of height shouldn’t effect the block. Does encourage to try and back an enemy to a ledge to open them up.

I’m not sure if it’ll help anyone else, but I struggled with blocking and dodging in saver combat. If you haven’t already, I would recommend changing your “Soldier Buttons” to Alternate. This really made everything more accessible and easier to do everything. That would include dodging. Hope this helps!

can I ask what type of controls you use? Cause i notice that you are able to switch the sides of your third person perspective really easily while mobile and it’s really hard for me because i have to completely stop my movement.

what about saber hit detection i get from the back by invisible saber which makes no sense when I 1 meter away from saber when run or jump

Quick question? Is it normal to "counter" lightsaber attacks? I would hold back as they swing then at the same time use right trigger and suddenly I hit and they'd stagger. Just seeing if others know this.

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Remembering the good days when jump attacking someone went through their block, was a not so well known way of dealing with block spammers.

I've literally been on a flat surface and still got shot in the face. But otherwise great vid it will really help some people out. Maybe get through to some of the spammers haha

6:05 unless you are facing obi wan you need to keep the pressure or he will regenerate back half his health bar