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You should change the company name to “Gelding Diesel,” because the EPA has clearly clipped you.

I work for a major truck repair buisness. And we see around 75/80% of the trucks that break down, or are towed in are due to emissions related failures.

If emissions compliant tuning is so great why wasn’t anybody doing it before being forced to?

The only argument needed is limp. Something in your emissions systems fail it will either limit your truck or totally disable it. I didn’t spend 70k on a truck for the crown to tell me when I can or can’t drive it. Because that’s what emission systems on these trucks do. Some people use their trucks for their livelihood and small time guys running a single truck to make a living cannot waste time and money with their trucks in a shop chasing bull shit problems for non essential parts. So the only anchored trucks are emissions intact trucks period.

DPF should be illegal.

My deleted 6.7 Powerstroke will run circles around your emmisions intact units and it won't break all the time.

That's weird. I deleted a non essential part to my truck. Mpgs went up. Just live in a state that doesn't have a bunch of liberals in it. You're good.

Alright, you guys have fun with your emissions repairs, I'm gonna be over here in my deleted "anchors" with no emissions that run cooler and burn less fuel and cost half as much to repair.

Delete for life!

Deleted trucks are better.

What hes trying to say is..." My company cant get away with breaking the law anymore, so here's a something different...."

More parts = more problems. If you can make an engine run with fewer parts, you will have fewer problems.

The diesel performance podcast has me pretty convinced that emissions tuning can make comparable HP. Problem is no one has made a performance dpf that enhances sound. My inner child refuses to let me drive a truck even if it has 600hp if it sounds like a minivan.

Living the DELETE LIFE, is the way to go . EGR system is like my Ex-girlfriend, they're both are useless and they both take money away from my pocket

I had no problem trading in my deleted 6.7 Cummins last year to a large Houston area dealership. They even advertised it for sale saying it had a tuner. In Texas we don't have diesel emission testing so deleted diesels reselling is not an issue.

Emissions is why I haven't spent my hard earned money on a new truck. Epa is getting out of hand, My old 99 2nd gen is holding up just fine.

Ima just say if stock emission compliment trucks where better then deleted y’all would’ve been promoting dpf compliant tunes and parts over just deleting it

A 2nd gen ram cummins can be built pretty much perfect and pretty for way less $$ than what it costs for a newer DPF/DEF running truck. I'll just keep upgrading and fixing my 01 and 02 thank you. The EPA can KMA!

I remember an old timer diesel mechanic comparing the def/ddp system to being a marathon runner and have a mask with a pip up your rear and reusing you farts haha and amazingly I’ve experience the difference and deleted performances better 🤷🏻‍♂️

I was left on the side of the road a few years back with a some failed sensors, trailer in tow. Got the whole Milage count down and everything, but was heading from NH to WV so 150 miles doesn’t help much 2am on a Sunday. Long story short I ended up with a huge tow bill for my truck and 14k trailer, lost my drilling contract for the job I was heading to, had hotel expenses, and a rental car expense. Truck took a week to get repaired and cost me a big contract. I understand that trucks are mechanical objects subject to breakdown, if it was an essential part I’d be more understanding.

Emissions on drives like an anchor

You guys need to take a course on diesel engines, ,There is nothing good about shoving crap back into your engine

I believe the opposite. I feel like emission compliant trucks are junk. I’ll never sale my deleted cummins, after a million miles and the motor blows up I’ll consider it worth every penny. These emission trucks will likely not make it past 500k. There’s no question in my mind.

03 F350 with 6.0 fully loaded gooseneck enclosed trailer running an average of 65 mph, I average 12.5. Full delete and bulletproof on a 245,000 mile truck with original transmission as well.

I had a talk with a gentleman with a '13 powerstroke 6.7 dually he tows a 3 axle 40ft toy hauler. Before he deleted, 6 mpg, after he deleted 13 mpg towing and 20 empty. I have an 05 duramax dually that struggles to get 12mpg with a slide in camper but I have my egr and cat. Deleted trucks run better.

I would buy a deleted truck over a stock POS any day

Keeping my 07’ till the doors fall off. Last good year for diesel trucks without all the BS. EPA can lick my balls; I’m not buying DEF fluid and getting low mpg. So what if the new trucks put out 1200 ftlbs. I’m good in the 600-800 range. Truck does everything I ask it to and I get 18-20mpg (empty).

Sounds like a lot of opportunities with the injectors for some good r&d. I'd be curious how 1 directions at 145° spray angle would change performance

Its hilarious watching these companies squirm as they get more and more scared to delete trucks almost by the minute.

The only reason they are pushing to modify emissions equipped trucks is because they are on the chopping block like Diesel Brothers who just got fined almost a million dollars for deleting and modifying emissions. They are a business who wants to keep selling people extremely over priced stuff. Basically they are trying to comply with the government and stay in business. I have no doubt these guys could make big leaps with emission equipped vehicles ford dodge and GM do it every new model. More power every new motor and more emissions. If they can these guys can. No one where I’m from is being arrested or ticketed even for deleted trucks and I live in north Idaho and grew up in Washington I live right by the state line. No one cares. They stopped testing emissions in Washington beginning 2020. Also in Washington if you owned a diesel newer then 2007 you were exempt from emissions testing as well. I’m sick of this conversation. If you can make a stock truck faster and more power that’s great but don’t try and tell me it ain’t going to fuck up the gigantic exhaust filter they all have just so your company stays afloat. I run heavy equipment for a living and this is also a huge down side to that trade. Cat used to be an awesome company with quality machines they barely make it to their first 1-2000 hours before you have some kind of emissions related issue. Last I checked cat stopped making on road diesels because of this issue. We bought a brand new komatsu wa600 in 2017 Before 5000 hours we replaced the egr cooler 5 times due to cracks and clogging. Most of the newer machines are DONE by 10kish hours. And keep in mind the extra fuel consumption due to the emissions. The wa600 would go through nearly 200 gallons of diesel in 10 hours and about 15 gallons of def. that’s night shift. Then you got the whole combine ban thing going on with the farmers they are basically deleting their machines so they can work on them themselves. All these companies have created monopolies basically when it comes to repairing machines that have taken a big dive in durability. This all comes down to the bottom line MONEY. No one cares about the environment it’s all about money.

I could care less about how fast dpf intact or dpf deleted trucks are. Ppl delete becouse they are afraid of beeing stranded somewhere with there family's and or cargo, especially if there is no cell service or dealers or dealers not open becouse its a holiday. Make DPF and SCR systems bullet proof and you would eliminate 80% of people that would delete there trucks. Modern diesel truck will at some point leave you stranded with the stock running gear. MFGs need to perfect these systems, these trucks are fast enough stock.

I feel very lucky to have inherited a 97 Dodge 12v my dad soecial ordered, and have it registered in a non emissions area. I've heard horror stories about new trucks causing nothing but headaches

My 2013 deleted ram 3500 gets 17 to 18 mpg with no trailer, and around 13.5 to 14 at just under 26k with a trailer. No way you can convince me a def/dpf truck getting 6 to 10 mph with constant breakdowns is a better way to go

Any interest I would have had in his products diminished when he slammed deleted trucks. I have a 2021 with 9k miles, been in the dealership 6 times for emissions. CEL stays on for one dpf/def code after another. Piss on dpf/def system and all that it entails.

I own a 1999 5.9 24v cummins no def, 5" exhaust system from turbo back...😁

All of what he's saying is fine but what about the soot build up in the throttle valve, and egr cooler ? At a 104,000 it took $130.00 in cleaner not to mention the time it took just to clean the baked on soot out of the throttle valve on my 6.7 powerstroke so what is thoroughbred diesels answer to these problems?

When the EPA starts making my payments they can start dictating what I do with my truck. They are acting like a HOA run by a bunch of KAREN'S 😂😂

He said he hasn’t had any problems running dpf just wait till that soot makes it’s way down to them crank and rod bearings

You will NEVER convince me that a non deleted truck is better than a deleted truck. These were never designed to have this garbage on them, all governments mandated. Here’s a fact, no military vehicles have emissions.

I understand this has to do with brand new diesel trucks however, could DDP transfer this innovation to modifying stock cp3 injectors on older common rail Cummins and lb7, lly, and lbz duramax trucks to improve injector longevity and get some power gain?

? I take out the DPF and catalytic and my truck star smoking bad blue smoke is that something to do with the DPF or my injector are bad is 2008 Chevy Silverado.

I'm all for the dpf system but despise the egr system... you will never convince me that recirculating exhaust gas through a motor is a good thing whether it's a gas engine much less a diesel engine no matter how clean the gas is. if a dpf is the end all cure all why do we need the egr other than quicker warm up times. I had a 2009 dodge that was so pathetic with the emissions that i said to hell with it and deleted it when it had 25000 miles on it. WTF I'm assuming it's illegal to delete the egr but keeping the dpf?

Why is the government exempt from the emissions if it's so important and does bad for the truck without it?

So what about the soot that is actualy abrasive that enters your cylinders and oil that emissions give you

I live in a state where there are no emissions inspections. If you live in one of those states just keep all your parts and reinstall them before you sell. Simple. The increased fuel efficiency is well worth a delete. Especially with the cost of diesel.

I understand the argument of emissions intact making comparable HP numbers, i don't think many people are fighting that. Besides your 1k+ hp crew but thats a different animal. It comes down to the reliability of the truck and the lifespan of that motor, both of which are extremely hindered with the emissions equipment on. I know there are performance dpf's and all of that, but i think were lying to ourselves if we think the technology is at the point where an emissions compliant truck makes it to half a million miles

Idk I mean if it still has to regen or take sensors and you have to worry about a cooler splitting in half on you then I'm not a fan

These rules might make sense if we only had mostly this type of vehicle on the road the government and epa could care less about these systems crippling your truck or costing you more

On a 18 F150 diesel 3.0 I’m getting 22.8 city/ hwy combined. What can be done with the injectors in this?

To fix my emissions on my 16 6.7would cost a few thousand dollars. I just deleted it for 1200. An no more emission problems. An the truck will last longer an run better an get way better fuel economy. So I can't see y these people are promoting no deleting

The carbon emissions of raw diesel fuel with no emissions equipment are still cleaner than gasoline. Big brother just sees industrial trucks blowing some soot and immediately lose their minds without knowing the facts.

I'm still driving my 2004 GMC LB7 Extended Cab. I'm thinking I might as well keep it. It's got no EGR or DPF and completely legal.

How many trucks at UCC where EMISSIONS intact?

These are modern injection what about the old lb7 injectors! Have you made any improvements to these injectors

Live in the area will have to go see then to see what they can do for my 5.9.

Can I get that guys injectors for my Kubota? I could use a few more hp in my 23 hp Kubota

most people dont care about more throttle response or horsepower. We want reliability. DPFs and EGRs have ruined diesels.

I think we just need more birth control and less emission systems

A very interesting topic you choose for this one. Love it when someone has all the tools and keeps playing with all the things a joe blow like me could never test or even try to improve. Good timing also I’m in need of a set of injectors for my lml soon. Needs turbo and injectors but turbo first as it’s sticking. 👍

So when I bid a job I gotta explain to the customer you gotta pay .... Such money to pay for def. The customer is gonna choose the guy with the old equipment. And the guy with old equipment is gonna get the job. Am I wrong???

Stop telling people bs

Very informal, id suggest to your camera operator to not zoom in as much and leave shots a little wider, no need to get right up on the subject unless you're running multiple cams.

What we need is the industry to get together and take it to the supreme court and not just roll over

Emissions delete became popular because of reliability. All these shops going epa dont even hit on the poorer reliability of emissions compliant trucks. Egr will clog. Dpf will clog. Regens burn the truck up. Def is an extra cost ontop of rising diesel prices. Sensors on all the epa stuff fails and ruins truck. Deleting wasnt just for power gain. It was reliability.

I never understood the thinking with all this EPA BS. This equipment causes you to burn more fuel because it kills MPGs, which in turm generates more gases. Just make these diesels more fuel efficient and get rid of all this EPA crap that kills these engines. Shorten the life span by as much as 50%. Its gotten to a point that a newer gas engine may last longer than a diesel and theres no $6k up charge.

The whole delete stigma is pointless. Most owners of deleted trucks wouldn’t own a truck anyways with a DPF, if there is no way they could remove it. They wouldn’t have even bought one in the first place. They would go buy a older no DPF no cat truck early 2000s that pollutes even more due to the dated fuel injection systems. Than a newer common tail deleted truck. This is the hard truth nobody really wants to talk about

Fuel burning as it passes through the Turbo during regen cycle,,,,NO

Lol we don’t understand the new way ? I beg to differ. We understand they want us to spend more on truck period. To more components the more repair cost. They also wants us to go thru as much fuel as possible. So they make our mpg shittier.

Deleted diesels last way longer than non you guys sound goofy

What should be illegal is blowing smoke. If you burn higher cetane diesel fuel and tune it just for reliability, then it should be legal to delete. Like someone said, these egr, and def systems are making trucks worse and theres way more parts that need replacement and maintenance.

If it is so important to the EPA , why don’t they redesign the fuel. Instead they put it on the backs of owners. But they did it before, we are not burning the fuel of the old days. I worked down in a mine. The only fuel power allowed was diesel. Every diesel had a scrubber on the exhaust. We didn’t have additives injected and the only issues were nitro headaches from the blasting.

So you’d rather get 10 miles to the gallon on a stock truck rather then 20+ on a tuned deleted truck? Deleting isn’t making it an anchor. It is making it more reliable and getting better fuel economy and reliability. Have you ever done emissions testing on a stock truck and then a stock deleted truck? They still pass emissions but get better mileage. When you tune it and add fuel is when you start failing emissions so I bet your stock truck with all these injector mods is most likely failing emission tests. I’d still like to know how much a set of nozzles for my 2007.5 would cost that would add about 50-75hp.

A tuned deleted Cummins Ram with a built trans can get over 30 mpg out on the highway.

Soon we will have no choice, in my opinion I still think deleting a truck is the best way to make horsepower and gain fuel efficiency. I still think we have at least 5 to 10 more years before aftermarket finally catches up like they have for the gasoline engines. As far as losing your warranty when deleting a vehicle changing injectors or any other kind of tuning is the same thing. The good thing is the aftermarket and even OEM manufacturers are getting better and better every year with these vehicles.

Do you know if DDP will be working on anything for the ECODIESEL platform?

Wow wish you had a shop near North Carolina

So the bad news: I didn't watch your video. The good news: I like pancakes. And my truck is deleted as fkkk!!!!

A true salesman!!!

My lbz is deleted. And I will only buy older trucks with hardly any emissions and then delete the ones on it

Emissions on diesel's have been around for quite awhile, I dont think they're going away. I appreciate the fact that the diesel performance shops are making products to work with emissions compliant trucks and cant wait to see what performance parts we'll see next. Thanks for another great video, Wade!!

Wouldn’t changing injectors void the warranty?…intact tuning? Warranty is gone. If I want to get rid of the warranty, it’s gonna be for reliability. EGR code within 3k miles on my 21’ Ram. The 22’s have MAJOR dpf issues. If the manufacturers got it right, then people would be happy with stock. These systems are still flawed, though better than when they first came out.

Deleted my truck years ago,still 0 problems now,,

Can spend $2000 one time to stop $15k of know problems and failures repeatedly. Not to mention increasing the life of these truck, and reducing fuel usage. Also not throwing 2.5 gallon jugs in landfills every 5k miles times millions of truck. Wouldn't replacing the injectors with new or even modified ones void the warranty anyways? Just my thoughts. Tell me if I'm wrong about any of this.

After 40 years as a diesel mechanic with freight companies. I understand the issues with emission problems on diesels. But if a old truck came in the shop and was left running and not hooked up to the shop exhaust tube , I would leave the shop. Before retirement a few years ago when one of the new trucks came in ,same situation with it running you didn't hardly notice any eye burning smoke. As long as the system was operating correctly. But there was constant problems with the regen systems. Anyway glad to be away that crap. And it just makes my rustfree 01 7.3 f250 More valuable to me.

I guess Lenny is only driving his trucks a couple hundred miles a year, or else he is putting 10's of thousands of dollars into them to try and get the DPF system to work half way. My son was a diesel machine for one of the largest shops in the Tampa Bay area, companies are losing money on DPF trucks because of ridiculous down time and stupid high repair costs. A lot of them are starting to move to natural or propane gas. I have friends that own big excavating companies, the DPF equipped heavy equipment has been costing them $20,000+ annually in repairs. They are starting to buy older equipment that did not come from the factory with DPF, fixing it up like new simply because it is way cheaper. And worst yet, science is not on the side of the EPA propaganda is. A single volcano puts off more pollutants in a single day than the enter western world did at 50 year height of our industrialization. And there is actual science that proves this. This is about power and nothing else. If Lenny is worried about loosing his business, if he is giving into these people he already has, just a matter of time until they will not allow any diesel engines to be built, THAT IS THE GOAL OF THE EPA.

I have a 2021 RAM 2500 with only 55k miles on it, @ the dealership getting a new EGR valve I’m out of work for over 2 weeks waiting on parts I’ll say delete this stuff

Can we all grow a pair?! Let's stand up to this absolute bull. It's obvious that none of us want it. So, why is it then that this is the law? We're not getting a "vote." Let's free ourselves! I work in finance... We MUST decentralize money worldwide or forever we are slaves. Robert Breedlove has a plan...

What about if we want some of that diesel sound?? DDP doesn’t satisfy that requirement…

Waive those emissions intact pom-poms all you want girls. Currently there are countless reasons to remove them. And all this performance malarkey with keeping them is place might score you some performance points (not many), but all the problems that emissions components bring you at the end of the day will still be there. Period. Don't fall for the hype.

I avoid emissions equipped diesel trucks. Its not worth the hassle to own trash.

My egr deleted 6.0 has a bone to pick with this idea

Deleted trucks are not illegal. It's only illegal for the manufacturer to sell without def. Diesel exhaust fluid is a joke.

I have seen plenty of deleted trucks that have no smoke and get great MPG. With all this emissions crap that motor wont last near aslong as it would without it. No matter how its tuned its crap that they are coming after everyone when not everyone drives around and rolls coal!!

How do solve for all the built up soot? You didn't address that. That's what destroys these new diesels.

this is why older trucks are so popular better fuel mileage, mo powah and DEF will leave you on the side of the road. 3 work trucks with DEF last year went down for my company. had to have dealer fix DEF

Love my deleted LMM!!! Next diesel I get will be deleted as well 🤠

People get upset, not because they don't understand the 'new way of things' -- it's more along the lines of the cost of repair, and how the mandated emissions system destroy their engines... If the EPA is mandating this equipment, there should also be legislation to limit the cost of the replacement parts, and repairs. Showing up to a dealership with a failed DPF, and being told it'll cost $8,000 to repair it, is absolutely absurd. This along with the absolutely ridiculous EGR system is why people delete... What is the point of the EGR system on a truck with a DPF? The DPF is doing its job, so why introduce soot back into the intake? The diesel truck owners are getting hit hard twice: 1) Exhaust component failure costs to repair. Cost of DPF, sensor replacements, SCR, DEF, etc. 2) EGR fallout (bad coolers, intakes being choked off due to soot buildup, vehicles catching fire (plastic intakes are incredibly laughable on a diesel). EPA only cares about protecting the environment. They don't care what the parts suppliers or dealerships are charging to fix these systems. People already pay a huge upcharge for the diesel engine option on these vehicles, only to be met with insane repair costs for EPA mandated emissions systems. Fix the costs, increase the reliability, and people will be more willing to abide by the EPA regulations...

At 5000 miles, you had to start working on your injectors? I work with and operate D10 dozers and caterpillar doesn't even know what to do with bull crap epa regulations. It only makes the end user spend more money on fluids. As if changing oil and filters and the cost of fuel isn't enough. Let's add another fluid that's irrelevant to the mix. That'll make a customer spend more money?

Im hesitant to take any long trips and carry a spare injector and injector hose with me all the time now So frustrating that we are forced to drive these BS DPF systems and the government doe not have to follow the same rules That tells you a lot right there 70k truck and work on it more than my old $2500 truck Mad as Hell !! I would tune if I could get the parts