Why YOUR favorite composer sucks!

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Carl-Friedrich Welker

Carl-Friedrich Welker

2 жыл бұрын

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@kartakarta6229
@kartakarta6229 2 жыл бұрын
We can all agree that Carl's favourite composer is Tchaikovsky
@mohammadgolkar2789
@mohammadgolkar2789 2 жыл бұрын
The statement made about tchaikovsky changes a lot when you keep in mind that he was gay
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god, know I get it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
He's definitely in the top 5 yes🙌🏻😂
@ZicraVEVO
@ZicraVEVO 2 жыл бұрын
As it should
@Tizohip
@Tizohip 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker Tchaikovsky have much mistakes in his orchestral works.
@emilycaballero6052
@emilycaballero6052 2 жыл бұрын
"a nightmare for performers and conductors" I feel like Stravinsky would have been half flattered by that
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah😂
@Amadea27
@Amadea27 Жыл бұрын
And a nightmare for dancers as well... I faint just by thinking of the choreography.
@nobumiau6472
@nobumiau6472 Жыл бұрын
And for some listeners xd
@DW_25
@DW_25 Жыл бұрын
Just conduct in 1 5head. What do you mean you can't subdivide into 7
@davidozab2753
@davidozab2753 Жыл бұрын
Life goals!
@ssb201
@ssb201 2 жыл бұрын
"One Spontaneous Key Change doesn't make your music epic" I feel personally attacked.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry😂
@depisoroszkoltosrac6547
@depisoroszkoltosrac6547 2 жыл бұрын
What was that Schumann piece?
@ssb201
@ssb201 2 жыл бұрын
@@depisoroszkoltosrac6547 According to one commenter, its Movement 4 of Symphony No. 3.
@depisoroszkoltosrac6547
@depisoroszkoltosrac6547 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssb201 Oh, it is. Tahnks! :D
@BenjaminGessel
@BenjaminGessel Жыл бұрын
But... But more brass... 😁😁😁
@eliot8394
@eliot8394 2 жыл бұрын
chopin didn’t need orchestra, chopin had piano.
@mateuszkozieja7537
@mateuszkozieja7537 Жыл бұрын
Yes🙂
@yoeyyoey8937
@yoeyyoey8937 Жыл бұрын
Duh
@theyluvtwoset.13
@theyluvtwoset.13 Жыл бұрын
look im chopin vegetables
@glenngouldschair390
@glenngouldschair390 Жыл бұрын
@@theyluvtwoset.13 oh god no
@theyluvtwoset.13
@theyluvtwoset.13 Жыл бұрын
@@glenngouldschair390 we be chop pin
@theKobus
@theKobus 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently we all missed out; we remember Verdi as a composer, but his wife said his true gift was his risotto alla milanese
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@tkengathegrateful4844
@tkengathegrateful4844 2 жыл бұрын
Just told that one to the missus - it got a good laugh from her. 👍
@MaxStirner123
@MaxStirner123 2 жыл бұрын
Admittedly, that's why we printed it on the banknotes
@TheHutchy01
@TheHutchy01 Жыл бұрын
Either that man made a really good risotto or y'know ouch.
@johnnie543
@johnnie543 Жыл бұрын
Giuseppina Strepponi needs more credit than she is rewarded for this
@damienheemskerk
@damienheemskerk 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the only complaint about Chopin is his orchestration just says how incredible he is. The Grieg slander just hurt as well😂
@ryanjeffers679
@ryanjeffers679 2 жыл бұрын
Griegs string quartet. A must listen.
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin Жыл бұрын
Chopin is just the best and most romantic of all time. When a woman judges Chopin, the woman says: 😍
@escuchachopin2856
@escuchachopin2856 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha exactly, Chopin is the best, we all love him... but, he's cello works are beautiful...
@al4381
@al4381 Жыл бұрын
Chopin is the equivalent of a romanticist hippie
@user-fu7zf4ck9z
@user-fu7zf4ck9z Жыл бұрын
Chopin is a bad composer. There's a lot of compositions of his that are lovely, but outside of the Ballades, his music is written very lazily
@mazeppa1231
@mazeppa1231 Жыл бұрын
As a proud Liszt fan, I loved the burn "where do I even start", because in reality, he never stuck to conventional norms of composition and always did things different. Liszt always experimented new things with his music, so it kind of rings true, lol. 😂
@hasinaacter4686
@hasinaacter4686 Жыл бұрын
Liszt the GOAT ( look at the pic)
@Emptycat171
@Emptycat171 Жыл бұрын
All Liszt fans unite!
@stravinskyfan
@stravinskyfan Жыл бұрын
Not really
@KERATOID
@KERATOID Жыл бұрын
@@stravinskyfan what do mean
@kasajizo8963
@kasajizo8963 Жыл бұрын
@@stravinskyfan bro thinks he's has knowledge
@heisenbong6691
@heisenbong6691 2 жыл бұрын
The Brahms one is entirely counterfactual; in reality, she was expecting him to marry her after Robert died, as they were both in love with each other. However, he chose to remain espoused to his music over marrying her. Conclusion: he was the exact opposite of a simp.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Should I change the Thumbnail to Brahms = Chad😂
@heisenbong6691
@heisenbong6691 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker Yes, sir 😂
@mouf725
@mouf725 Жыл бұрын
Oh right, I always thought it was a case of unrequited love, interesting. In that case, do you know what his reason for not marrying her was, like why did he want to remain espoused to his music?
@richh9450
@richh9450 Жыл бұрын
Not only did he try, there are rumours that there was a child.
@Cbawls
@Cbawls Жыл бұрын
@@mouf725 Robert Schumann was his mentor and great friend. I assume even though the two had an affair, he had too much respect for Robert and felt too guilty.
@RachaelLongLastName
@RachaelLongLastName Жыл бұрын
As a Vivaldi fan, I don’t feel like that was even a really good burn. He wrote over 400 concertos and because one of them happens to be beloved by a random suckass talent show, that’s all he’s remembered for. He _invented_ the modern concerto and all he is remembered for is Summer.
@dieweltverschworunggatescl1206
@dieweltverschworunggatescl1206 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Vivaldi is more than the four Seasons.
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Жыл бұрын
A good burn then would be: "Once you hear one piece, you've heard them all" xD
@RachaelLongLastName
@RachaelLongLastName Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Lmao, I guess that would be true for someone who just listens to the four seasons. But it is certainly a better "burn" than the one in the video. Maybe I'm just a stingy fan tho.
@RachaelLongLastName
@RachaelLongLastName Жыл бұрын
He didn't even write all the concertos for violin; there are concertos for cello, oboe, flute, bassoon, recorder, lute, mandolin, horn, viola d'amore, (etc) and then he also has a couple of concerto grossos that are really great too.
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Жыл бұрын
@@RachaelLongLastName Yeah, I get what you are saying, but it is a funny burn since so many of Vivaldi pieces sound similar to 4 S.
@marazali2557
@marazali2557 Жыл бұрын
Congrats dude you actually managed to piss me of with every single one of them 🤣
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker Жыл бұрын
That's was the intention😉
@lordcephas5991
@lordcephas5991 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@insight827
@insight827 2 жыл бұрын
Liszt is quite misunderstood, but his music and legacy is incredibly important
@Whaijorhujishkomunyk
@Whaijorhujishkomunyk 2 жыл бұрын
True
@oritdrimer4354
@oritdrimer4354 2 жыл бұрын
Very, Very True
@jessicaeskebk5945
@jessicaeskebk5945 Жыл бұрын
Super duper very very super true
@insight827
@insight827 Жыл бұрын
@@jessicaeskebk5945 NO!
@vincentvidal-berthaud3755
@vincentvidal-berthaud3755 Жыл бұрын
Misunderstood? By whom? Everybody knows he's a great composer.
@ninjaaninjaaaa
@ninjaaninjaaaa 9 ай бұрын
In case u want to jump to ur fav composer 0:00 - Bach: B minor mass, Gloria in excelsis Deo 0:03 - Beethoven: 5th symphony 0:08 - Mozart: 40th symphony 0:16 - Mahler: 3rd symphony 0:28 - Bruckner: 7th symphony 0:43 - Brahms: 4th symphony 0:53 - Schubert: "Unfinished" symphony 1:05 - Schumann: 3rd symphony, mov.IV 1:20 - Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances 1:30 - Ravel: Daphnis et Chloe, Lever du jour 1:42 - Stravinsky: Rite of Spring, The Augurs of Spring 1:51 - Liszt: Spanish Rhapsody 2:04 - Strauss: Vier letzte Lieder 2:14 - Chopin: Ballade no. 1 2:25 - Tchaikovsky: Nutcracker ♡ 2:33 - Wagner: Tristan und Isolde 2:45 - Verdi: Nabucco 3:00 - Puccini: La Boheme, Musetta's Waltz 3:14 - Haydn: 87th symphony 3:23 - Händel: Music for the Royal Fireworks 3:35 - Debussy: La Mer 3:48 - Mendelssohn: 4th symphony 4:02 - Shostakovich: 5th symphony 4:16 - Schönberg: 2nd chamber symphony LOL 4:23 - Sibelius: 5th symphony 4:36 - Dvorak: 9th symphony 4:50 - Bartok: The Miraculous Mandarin 5:02 - Prokofiev: 6th piano sonata 5:14 - C. Schumann: 3 romances 5:24 - Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique 5:34 - Vivaldi: "Summer" violin concerto, mov.III 5:42 - Saint-Säens: Allegro Appassionato op.70 5:48 - Hindemith: Symphonic Metamorphosis, mov.IV 5:59 - Korsakov: Scheherazade 6:08 - Grieg: Peer Gynt suite no. 1 6:18 - outro - Ravel: string quartet in F, mov.II (little help to @BlueMeeple 's comment)
@BlueMeeple
@BlueMeeple 2 жыл бұрын
List of excerpts (mostly 1st movements or preludes etc.) Bach: B minor mass, Gloria in excelsis Deo Beethoven: 5th symphony Mozart: 40th symphony Mahler: 3rd symphony Bruckner: 7th symphony Brahms: 4th symphony Schubert: "Unfinished" symphony Schumann: 3rd symphony, mov.IV Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances Ravel: Daphnis et Chloe, Lever du jour Stravinsky: Rite of Spring, The Augurs of Spring Liszt: Spanish Rhapsody Strauss: Vier letzte Lieder Chopin: Ballade no. 1 Tchaikovsky: Nutcracker Wagner: Tristan und Isolde Verdi: Nabucco Puccini: La Boheme, Musetta's Waltz Haydn: 87th symphony Händel: Music for the Royal Fireworks Debussy: La Mer Mendelssohn: 4th symphony Shostakovich: 5th symphony Schönberg: 2nd chamber symphony Sibelius: 5th symphony Dvorak: 9th symphony Bartok: The Miraculous Mandarin Prokofiev: 6th piano sonata C.Schumann: 3 romances Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique Vivaldi: "Summer" violin concerto, mov.III Saint-Säens: Allegro Appassionato op.70 Hindemith: Symphonic Metamorphosis, mov.IV Korsakov: Scheherazade Grieg: Peer Gynt suite no. 1 (outro - Ravel: string quartet, mov.II)
@Leonecta
@Leonecta 2 жыл бұрын
You are our salvation.
@vaniasetti7753
@vaniasetti7753 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for throwing some light into this! 👍🏽😃
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much🙌🏻
@unknownchannel3141
@unknownchannel3141 Жыл бұрын
A true angel
@user-kb6yy8uk5n
@user-kb6yy8uk5n 2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky is a great melodist, but when it comes to orchestration, no one is better than Ravel.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Tchaikovsky is way more than just a great melodist. But Ravel is a genius orchestrator, and so is Tchaikovsky, just because Ravel uses more different Instrument combinations does not mean he is a better orchestrator, even if I love Ravel. Not saying Ravel isn't better. But there is a difference between how many different sound colors are used and the actual genius of orchestration.🙌🏻
@iks.7048
@iks.7048 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker It's like comparing Bach to Stravinsky.
@arielorthmann4061
@arielorthmann4061 2 жыл бұрын
Messiaen's orchestrations are also something
@worldmusictheory
@worldmusictheory 2 жыл бұрын
cliché comment ngl
@gon9684
@gon9684 2 жыл бұрын
@@arielorthmann4061 Messiaen is Ravel's sucessor in a way, his orchestration is great, the only difference is that the way he writes doesn't lend so well to what really made Ravel the best. Btw, saying Tchaikovsky is better at orchestration than Ravel is ridiculous, Tchaikovsky was a good orchestrator, but not even a master, so let's not compare to perhaps the biggest master of them all. Stravinsky, Messiaen, Schoenberg, they were all so much better and clearly more knowledgeable, not that there is any issue with Tchaikovsky's music
@user-ez4or8ly4c
@user-ez4or8ly4c 2 жыл бұрын
5:14 During Rob's lifetime it was exactly the opposite. She was a Europe-renowned piano virtuoso and he was barely known outside Germany. When they came to Russia someone asked "Who is that guy near you? Ah, your husband? Does he even compose or what?"
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't knew that thanks🙌🏻
@dan-us6nk
@dan-us6nk 2 жыл бұрын
source please I'd wish to read more
@user-ez4or8ly4c
@user-ez4or8ly4c 2 жыл бұрын
@@dan-us6nk I'm not sure if I can give you any sources in English since I've watched some documentaries and read some articles in Russian. You can fing something about Clara and Robert's trip to St. Petersburg and Moscow in 1844. Although, here are some translations from Olga Loseva's article "About Clara and Robert Schumann's Russian trip" from 2002: "Whatever Russian criticists wrote during Clara Schumann's concerts about the popularity of Robert Schumann's pieces "among all of the amateurs, not even saying about the connoisseurs", the facts, unfortunately, claim the opposite. Even among the connoisseurs his music *and even his name* was seldom heard before 1844, and really a few of Eastern European composers of his generation were in such a deep obscurity there. It would be wrong to say that such a situation was specific for Russia and was different for any country outside Germany". Although, in 10 years the situation changed dramatically and Schumann has become one of the most playable composers there. And that had suprpisingly no connection to Clara's recitals.
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer Жыл бұрын
Which is also the reason why her father was so fundamentally opposed to them marrying and they had to get a court order to be allowed to. He had groomed her to be a concert pianist being able to maintain not only herself but also provide for her father as well. And when Robert showed up, an unknown musician, a law school drop out, a man that was not made, father Wieck was up in arms against the idea of her daughter marrying him.
@user-nk1to4in8m
@user-nk1to4in8m Жыл бұрын
Without Clara you would not know Robert.
@bdragon1445
@bdragon1445 Жыл бұрын
Handel is indeed seriously underrated, but I don't think that was his fault.
@LobsngDmchoi
@LobsngDmchoi Жыл бұрын
Not underrated by Beethoven. But he was by Schoenberg -- at least Beethoven had a copy of Handels (almost) complete oeuvre.
@SimoneBattaglia94
@SimoneBattaglia94 Жыл бұрын
We have to blame 19th century musicology for that I think.
@rogerwilliams6058
@rogerwilliams6058 Жыл бұрын
@@SimoneBattaglia94 Sounds about right.
@indiegrab360
@indiegrab360 Жыл бұрын
I only studied Baroque and Romanticism but if I had to answer "Who's the best composer?" I'd just go with Bach Mozart Handel... Schumann or Schubert... always get them confused. One of those.
@rogerwilliams6058
@rogerwilliams6058 Жыл бұрын
@@indiegrab360 Questions like that are completely useless.
@henrywolfecarradine
@henrywolfecarradine 2 жыл бұрын
Once heard the joke that you can count everything Stravinsky wrote in single beats. One, one, one, accented one, soft one, one rest, one, one, slightly longer one, one…. Etc.
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
Dancers are masters of counting music, because that the way we can set reference points and dance together with the music... I've danced in Stravinsky and you can't imagine how complex it is musically, we had to memorize a sequence of phrases, each of different length, and count it at different speeds depending on what we needed to do... Everything with absolutely no pattern, and counting everything in 1 wouldn't help us😂 it was fun tho, I give him that
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds horrible😂
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer Жыл бұрын
The Mahler one made me burst out laughing. Especially since I read the letters Alma wrote about him and in one of the early ones she describes how he cried in her arms, apologizing for coming too early the first time they ever had sex. ;)
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker Жыл бұрын
Ok I didn't know that😂
@WolfgangXP65-67
@WolfgangXP65-67 Жыл бұрын
I NEED TO READ THAT 😭
@azpizzazz3442
@azpizzazz3442 Жыл бұрын
w h a t
@Paolo8772
@Paolo8772 9 ай бұрын
I didn't know that, but coming too quickly has nothing to do with the size of one's dick!
@meruem6995ujjoooo
@meruem6995ujjoooo 5 ай бұрын
Do you see the likes, some things are perfect just the way they are.
@lucapop3571
@lucapop3571 Жыл бұрын
Although Stravinsky represents at first a considerable challenge for conductors because of his unique bar system and internal elements in the music... it's the most addictive drug once you get used to it and internalise his "game". As a student, I think Histoire du Soldat it's an impassable step in a conductor's education!
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker Жыл бұрын
Wise words😂👍🏻
@wsc1955
@wsc1955 8 ай бұрын
One of my faves but I'm guessing it would be hard to play.
@brianthomas2434
@brianthomas2434 5 ай бұрын
The hysterical thing is the "Stravinsky conducts Stravinsky " series on Columbia demonstrates how difficult his work is to conduct. Old Igor was a below average conductor.
@anti64
@anti64 2 жыл бұрын
love how the first time Saint-Saëns is acknowledged on your channel is for the "Why your favorite composer sucks!" video, that's fair I guess lmao
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious😂
@plentyofmagoes1143
@plentyofmagoes1143 2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven’s harmonies are simple at times, but many of these instances stand to hold an important meaning within the overall structure of the piece. An example I’ve seen people sight is an instance in the 4th movement of his 5th symphony where he stays on the I C major chord for several measures to pound in the cadence on the first section. I believe this over the top emphasis is there as a means to contrast the much more somber returning theme from the 3rd movement. I would argue his harmonies are not necessarily boring, but more overtly simplistic at times.
@dan-us6nk
@dan-us6nk 2 жыл бұрын
He's just the earliest romantic symphonist so everything seems more simple to us. I personally am addicted to Mahler, so genuinly listening to Beethoven's music sounds a bit simple for me.
@BenjaminAnderson21
@BenjaminAnderson21 Жыл бұрын
@@dan-us6nk It's that classical simplicity that makes it such a joy to listen to, though. Beethoven's music may be quasi-romantic and large in scale but it never loses that Mozartian charm.
@mattbalfe2983
@mattbalfe2983 9 ай бұрын
Beethoven is much more about motific development ( easy example being the 5th symphony.)
@zevburrows1871
@zevburrows1871 2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky a better orchestrator than Ravel? Them’s fightin’ words.
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky's orchestration is widely considered among the best... Ravel has a beautiful use of colour and rythme but Tchaikovsky's orchestration is pure genius... It should be recognised instead that Wagner's orchestration is at God level too and Tchaikovsky has been influenced by it (although he publicly disliked him)
@oritdrimer4354
@oritdrimer4354 2 жыл бұрын
But overall Ravel wins because Le Tombeau de Couperin.
@iks.7048
@iks.7048 2 жыл бұрын
@@oritdrimer4354 Overall, Ravel wins because he is Ravel. One mustn't forget, he has other orchestral works.
@oritdrimer4354
@oritdrimer4354 2 жыл бұрын
@@iks.7048 Ravel is Great, He is in my top 5 already.
@lanaritchie
@lanaritchie 2 жыл бұрын
Daphnis et Chloe is just out of this world
@KingRenYen
@KingRenYen 9 ай бұрын
As a Shostakovich Fan, I can confirm that we all like him because his music was inspired by war and oppression.
@hortleberrycircusbround9678
@hortleberrycircusbround9678 8 ай бұрын
And this is why Prokofiev, who embodies way more fantasy is a trillion times better
@philv2529
@philv2529 3 ай бұрын
Is Shastakovich pronounced, "Shastakovich" or, "Shastakovich?"
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky for ever✌🏻 The only composer who wrote 2 hours long ballets and you can listen to the whole thing of every single one of them finding every moment beautiful end exciting, not to mention his other full length works I do not understand why he hates Rachmaninoff that much lol😂
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Me, I don't hate Rachmaninoff, I think he is genius😂
@oritdrimer4354
@oritdrimer4354 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call him my favourite, But I like to play his music tho.
@tkengathegrateful4844
@tkengathegrateful4844 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh, ballet. I'd rather be condemned to Dante's Bolgia of Mozart Divertimenti.
@Luca-yg5qx
@Luca-yg5qx 2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Prokofiev?
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luca-yg5qx Prokofiev is amazing too, one of my favourites... I honestly wouldn't do any ranking with composerz but it was a way to say that Tchaikovsky has a special place in my heart. Also, although Prokofiev's ballets are incredible, it's still hard to stand against Tchaikovsky's three masterpieces, which are enjoyable with and without ballet
@anoldretiredelephant
@anoldretiredelephant 11 ай бұрын
I think the thing about Bach that can make his music a little difficult to listen to is that you are never given a break, seldom much contrast in a single movement, and in his pieces start very suddenly and drammatically, which are not bad things but can get overwhelming very quickly, especially with his fugues. Bach in my mind will always be my favourite composer because I can never get bored of him but once in awhile I need a break from his intense and rigorous counterpoint for something lighter, which often ironically involves a bigger orchestra.
@Eclectobit
@Eclectobit Жыл бұрын
Ravel is pinnacle of orchestration and Prokofiev is well-known for many recognizable works, piano sonatas (dunno if you are just a violinist or anything), Romeo and Juliet, piano concertos, etc etc.
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 9 ай бұрын
Sorry, Berlioz was a greater and very innovative orchestrator. He influenced the Russians, esp. Rimsky.
@wsc1955
@wsc1955 8 ай бұрын
Love them both since I was 17.
@Balfour.
@Balfour. 2 жыл бұрын
About Mahler, it's worth saying that at some point he sought Freud's services to "solve stuff" so yeah, there's that. Although on the other hand, he was almost 40 years old when he met his wife who was barely 18 at the time, and all his and Alma Schindler biographers account that whatever happened between them was wild and instantaneous, so yeah.
@WillWright77
@WillWright77 Жыл бұрын
I was watching this in aggressive anticipation to see what you had to say about Tchaikovsky. Left surprisingly satisfied.
@alexanderfo3886
@alexanderfo3886 Жыл бұрын
0:56 Schubert was great at writing melodies. It is a quality in itself. I can live with that.
@robertallan8035
@robertallan8035 2 жыл бұрын
as a Tchaikovsky/Debussy fan, I got off easy and the most fucking striking thing is that I've been told I look a lot like Dicaprio by entirely different random people a great number of times
@NibblesTheNibbler
@NibblesTheNibbler Жыл бұрын
I think Debussy looks more like John C. Riley than DiCaprio.
@dariomosbo4270
@dariomosbo4270 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was more representation with composers such as Albéniz, de Falla, Gottschalk, Granados, etc. Their music is so great and deserves to be known more!
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly I don't know much about them so I can't make any jokes😂
@jesustovar2549
@jesustovar2549 2 жыл бұрын
Spanish composers are seriously underrated, especially the ones from late 19th century and early 20th century, even most spanish people don't have idea of who they are!
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
Gottschalk! I'm so attached to his music since I danced the main character in a fairytale with his music. Very exciting and exotic, yet virtuosity doesn't take away from expressiveness
@kristijanpavlovic
@kristijanpavlovic 2 жыл бұрын
True, I only found out about them because I play classical guitar, fantastic composers, sadly not very well represented outside the guitar niche.
@bossshrek1241
@bossshrek1241 2 жыл бұрын
bet no one knows edouard wolff
@bigjojo2832
@bigjojo2832 2 жыл бұрын
all in favor of changing his name to CHADkovsky, say I
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's funny😂I will keep that in mind🙌🏻
@Samuel-kc1pg
@Samuel-kc1pg 2 жыл бұрын
Prokofiev is so flawless you had to lie in order to find a defect ☠️
@cedricb7904
@cedricb7904 4 ай бұрын
+1
@ligetisspaghetti5763
@ligetisspaghetti5763 2 жыл бұрын
4:07 WOW I have a lot to say about this: Lady Macbeth, the Nose, cello sonata, Symphony 1, Symphony 15, Piano Trio 2, Piano Concerto 2, Jazz Suites are all counter arguments.
@indiegrab360
@indiegrab360 Жыл бұрын
In college we all wrote a term paper on a Haydn piece. It required listening to it over and over... Doing lengthy analysis of the score. The Monday it was due we're all handing in the papers I go, "I'm sorry, but that was pretty boring. I'm not a fan." Everyone in the room laughed, including the professor.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker Жыл бұрын
I like that story😂
@luanllluan
@luanllluan 9 ай бұрын
My man's dead inside
@adamek82
@adamek82 9 ай бұрын
Man, this is amazing! It made me laugh so much! Great sense of humor! :)
@skeletoor501
@skeletoor501 Жыл бұрын
This channel represents another fundamental step in recognizing that nobody actually gives a shit about Satie, which is interesting, considering that neither did his contemporaries
@ernstjung6234
@ernstjung6234 Жыл бұрын
Quite false since he was worshipped in France by Les Six. His music was loved back then in France and he kind of was an icon of French Classical music.
@rogerwilliams6058
@rogerwilliams6058 Жыл бұрын
He made music jokes on the piano so that may be why.
@ernstjung6234
@ernstjung6234 Жыл бұрын
@@rogerwilliams6058 That"s pretty much you being ignorant of the character of the guy.
@rogerwilliams6058
@rogerwilliams6058 Жыл бұрын
@@ernstjung6234 I mean now. His repetoire has a niche scope. Classical music treats most composers that are not Mozart or Bethoveen horribly for no good reason.
@rogerwilliams6058
@rogerwilliams6058 Жыл бұрын
Contempories of more famous composers after spending their whole life creating music and gaining reputation only to be instantly forgotten by an ungrateful public. 💀
@butter5014
@butter5014 2 жыл бұрын
What a low blow for Chopin! He may not have orchestrated most of his pieces, but there is orchestral quality counterpoint in his pieces! Can you tell that Chopin is my favourite composer?
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of orchestration in his works is what keeps Chopin in my least listened composers... I do find his music beautiful, but piano alone doesn't meet my taste so often... I also didn't love his orchestrated works, sadly, but I won't to make clear it's just about personal taste, he's a great composer
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Yes kinda😂
@theKobus
@theKobus 2 жыл бұрын
I think if you asked Chopin about his orchestration he would say "oh god please leave me alone will you leave me alone if I write you a mazurka"
@Froge4291
@Froge4291 2 жыл бұрын
@@theKobus im a chopin fan so id be very pleased to have a mazurka written for me xD
@dan-us6nk
@dan-us6nk 2 жыл бұрын
stop tapping at tables in public
@weavileoff0461
@weavileoff0461 2 жыл бұрын
I am a proud Wagnerian. He wrote very complex and long works, and you have to be really into there to feel all of the greatness. And when you've reached it, it is simply the best for you. And you also get the superpower not to get tired while listening to his operas))
@ianng9915
@ianng9915 2 жыл бұрын
Ppl say they don't like Tristan act 2 because of Brangene warnings and marke's disappointment. I absolutely disagree as personally the whole act was just the most musically fascinating piece, the plot is slow but the pace is perfectly shaped by Wagner
@weavileoff0461
@weavileoff0461 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianng9915 I advise them just to be more patient so they can fully enjoy the music
@ianng9915
@ianng9915 2 жыл бұрын
@@weavileoff0461 being patient is one thing. When I first listened to Tristan I was patiently listening to act 1 while my attention kinda flew away until they drank the potion. But act 2 and 3 is something that I don't know how people can think it's boring, cuz it simply isn't.
@ianng9915
@ianng9915 2 жыл бұрын
@@weavileoff0461 actually act 1 can be very good too depending on the performance. The Bohm performance left me cold but the Karajan 52 is the best act 1 I've heard because of many reasons that I'm not going to list out here. Anyways Wagner left us long gifts that are not boring.
@kodalycat906
@kodalycat906 2 жыл бұрын
Ach, you proud, true believers. Those 20+ (?) minutes of stasis in Parsifal (Farcifal, mejor dicho) were the death of me. Pity I didn't have Glazunov's wherewithal to keep trying (he didn't "get" Wagner, either, on attempts 1,2 or 3) until finally... I will definitely give ol' Richard his due, however, as the greatest "bleeding chunks" composer ever!
@philipkarmanov6318
@philipkarmanov6318 9 ай бұрын
Tchaikovsky: does not suck at all His boyfriend: ._.
@smokefan4000
@smokefan4000 7 ай бұрын
*His nephew
@juancarlosleiva1411
@juancarlosleiva1411 8 ай бұрын
Now we all know Carl is a total nutcracker nerd
@elizatoponce9375
@elizatoponce9375 Жыл бұрын
NONO the fact that there isn’t a melody with Debussy is WHY ITS SO GOOD
@user-ez4or8ly4c
@user-ez4or8ly4c 2 жыл бұрын
Alkan: "Who the hell are you? And stop beating the piano, aren't 20 minutes enough?" Sorabji: "If you write 5-hour-long piano pieces with 4 staves it doesn't make your music automatically epic" La Monte Young: "Tune your piano m8" Delibes, Minkus: "I'm not a ballet dancer so your music doesn't make sense to me" C. P. E. Bach: "Stop modulating between movements"
@fredericfrancoischopin6280
@fredericfrancoischopin6280 Жыл бұрын
2:17 the piano is already an orchestra
@danavioloncello
@danavioloncello Жыл бұрын
4:36 Sibelius violin concerto : why am I still here? Just to suffer
@nightwhenjar
@nightwhenjar 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh tchaikovsky was an alright orchestrater Ravel was a literal god
@Cbawls
@Cbawls Жыл бұрын
“Tchaikovsky: does not suck at all” Oh the irony…
@LoGStein
@LoGStein Жыл бұрын
2:30 Well from what we know, he certainly sucked...
@duartevader2709
@duartevader2709 5 ай бұрын
Very underated comment ngl
@felicity1877
@felicity1877 2 жыл бұрын
So happy how you are thinking about Tchaikovsky, my favorite composer, but he wouldn't be pleased that his bestie Grieg is called awful (; still, there's so much light and so much darkness close together. The Nutcracker overture may be sweet, but you will feel completely different with the one from Swan Lake - or ever tried The storm or The Oprichnik (; But forget all other composers, if you can have the Waltz of Flowers, the Final Scene of Swan Lake or whatever else (;
@mirk-oh9549
@mirk-oh9549 Жыл бұрын
This made me laugh hysterically. and I thank you for it.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Scrungge
@Scrungge 8 ай бұрын
I actually love when the piano in an orchestra gets sole attention for a while. Everyone's at the edge of their seat in those moments
@Monkechnology
@Monkechnology Жыл бұрын
4:02 "All warfare is based" - Sun Tzu
@organvideos2597
@organvideos2597 Жыл бұрын
I’ll have to assume since there was no mention of Percy Grainger or Scriabin, that my favorite composers are so indubitably excellent it wasn’t worth taking the time to include them in such a trivial list.
@rogerwilliams6058
@rogerwilliams6058 Жыл бұрын
I agree with such a interpretation.
@chrismcdonald9120
@chrismcdonald9120 Жыл бұрын
We sight read a granger piece in school last week and it was hell to play
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 Жыл бұрын
No me mention of Steve Reich or Iannis Xenakis as well. Clearly the way to this person's heart is to write for percussion.
@kasajizo8963
@kasajizo8963 Жыл бұрын
Here I'll roast your favourite composers Percy Grainger: compensates for his small dick by being a hardcore white supremacist Scriabin: bro fully descended into madness
@tj-co9go
@tj-co9go 9 ай бұрын
Scriabin: you want to play Liszt but find his music too difficult
@user-ez4or8ly4c
@user-ez4or8ly4c 2 жыл бұрын
Not only Bruckner wrote 9 (11 with no. 0 and 00) symphonies, but he kept re-writing them, sometimes composing entire new movements. People still mess up with the editions.
@mormelgil5017
@mormelgil5017 2 жыл бұрын
proud Mozartian. love his Operas, Piano Concertos, late Symphonys and Choir Music
@alexgalter
@alexgalter Жыл бұрын
That's my man
@sergioescuderoparedes4708
@sergioescuderoparedes4708 5 ай бұрын
Me too :) His Little Gigue K. 574 is not I-IV-V-I at all!
@HMPGENERAL
@HMPGENERAL Жыл бұрын
can't have the one hit wonder conversation without my boy pachelbel
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker Жыл бұрын
Well that's true giuseppe😂
@iks.7048
@iks.7048 2 жыл бұрын
Ravel is still superior, you'll understand one day. Also, Haydn wrote over 107 symphonies, 104 was just his last.
@jura3443
@jura3443 Жыл бұрын
What was the piece they played for him?
@iks.7048
@iks.7048 Жыл бұрын
@@jura3443 Daphnis et Chloé, Suite No.2
@iks.7048
@iks.7048 Жыл бұрын
And for Haydn, I'm not sure. I've heard every symphony, but I don't *know* them all.
@aidandavis7657
@aidandavis7657 Жыл бұрын
Not superior to rachmaninoff that’s for sure, especially with his piano concerto
@Arjun-py4ym
@Arjun-py4ym 9 ай бұрын
thank god, someone understands. For me ravel is the peak of music and he can never be compared with bitch-ass Tchaikovshy.
@alexp5552
@alexp5552 2 жыл бұрын
0:29 That's what one calls a dedication
@wolframsteindl2712
@wolframsteindl2712 2 жыл бұрын
What's with the hate towards Händel? Aside from Mozart and Prokofiev, he's the composer that got me into classical music. And I still like to listen to his works every now and then.
@TempleofSolomon
@TempleofSolomon 2 жыл бұрын
Handels music from Solomon is beautiful!
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robert_1685 funnily enough, he was the mainstream composer in his time😂
@rogerwilliams6058
@rogerwilliams6058 Жыл бұрын
Honestly in classical music everyone is underated.
@usgusdus1215
@usgusdus1215 9 ай бұрын
I have spent 10 years of my life listening Bach's fugues almost non-stop. Never gets old
@Gretchaninov
@Gretchaninov Жыл бұрын
Grieg's music is gorgeous, especially the Lyric Pieces but also the Piano Concerto and various other works. Ironically, all these samples drew my attention - they all wrote at least some good music.
@anniefillmore8594
@anniefillmore8594 Жыл бұрын
When I was in school our Music History Prof said that Tchaikovsky wrote "meretricious " music and for that reason, we would not be studying him during her course. We were pissed...especially after we went to the Library and found out what meretricious meant.
@schokoladenritter7969
@schokoladenritter7969 Жыл бұрын
You know, I would just drop that course immediately after hearing that. Tchaikovsky is basically my spirit animal, and I would feel personally attacked by that professor's statement. I feel like a lot of musicologists just like the stuff Mendelssohn liked out of respect for tradition, and the stuff that they can write a thesis and essays about, which shows a lack of enjoying music as music. Just because Tchaikovsky was good at making people like his music doesn't mean that it's bad. His orchestration skills and melodic talent are god-tier. Plus, he's good at keeping people engaged in the music most of the time, which cannot be said for a lot of late romantic era composers. Music is meant to be enjoyed... shocking, I know.
@xxxchild_predatorxxx107
@xxxchild_predatorxxx107 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me all the pieces used please?
@llamaking1071
@llamaking1071 Жыл бұрын
4:48 because he's Bartok, and that's what Bartok does, and I love it!
@hollycarpenter9828
@hollycarpenter9828 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that I wasn’t a classical music person. I’ve realized that the only classical I’ve been exposed to is Beethoven. And I don’t like Beethoven. So I’m going to take video and choose some cool seeming composers. Thanks for making this! I’m going to start with Ravel because I liked that excerpt you put In here and Shostakovich because I like war music.
@KKIcons
@KKIcons Жыл бұрын
See if you like Glenn Gould. Iearned to love classical through listening to him and studying his lectures. Heres some Ravel. m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbhieKaY2d69hqs.html
@KKIcons
@KKIcons Жыл бұрын
Glenn Gould is most known for his Bach. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qcWeqNBhysCtgWw.html
@KKIcons
@KKIcons Жыл бұрын
Here is a lecture on Beethoven. With the Tempest Sonata no. 17. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iLZ0dcaVqa3Wnnk.html
@KKIcons
@KKIcons Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that shows shostakovich influenced a lot of the great OSTs.
@Boccaccio1811
@Boccaccio1811 9 ай бұрын
Classical music is very diverse so it’s really impossible to judge it based on just one or a few composers… personally I like Beethoven, but there’s a lot of classical music I love that other classical fans will scoff at and vice versa
@insight827
@insight827 2 жыл бұрын
"every piece is war inspired" Piano concerto no. 2 waltz for jazz orchestra 9th symphony 8th string quartet 9th piano trio I could go on...
@odeonmelancholy3711
@odeonmelancholy3711 2 жыл бұрын
As a poet, the one about Puccini really hit close to home...
@fireb0xes938
@fireb0xes938 2 жыл бұрын
What are the names of all the pieces in the video?
@dan-us6nk
@dan-us6nk 2 жыл бұрын
0:17 it's monday evening I've been studying calculus for hours and you hit me with that I lost it officially. thanks. that was hilarious I'm still having waves of chuckles I am in danger. you couldn't even insult his music you could give a joke about his height too but you chose the D minor you just love the drama.
@Kchkchkch8415
@Kchkchkch8415 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Grieg
@7BI0Vx4
@7BI0Vx4 Жыл бұрын
Please list each piece of music with the composer in future videos. A few are recognizable but not all. Thanks.
@NeiroYT
@NeiroYT Жыл бұрын
5:49 name of piece? pls
@kartakarta6229
@kartakarta6229 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose ravel's string quartet as an ending piece?
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
It was one of the only classical music pieces on the music license platform I use.🙌🏻
@donbaniore1163
@donbaniore1163 2 жыл бұрын
what are the pieces by Brahms and Shumann called
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Brahms 4 first movement, Schumann 3 4th movement🙌🏻
@thibomeurkens2296
@thibomeurkens2296 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a list of all the pieces? I’m ashamed to admit I only recognize a couple of them 😅
@the.galant.cadential.formula
@the.galant.cadential.formula 9 ай бұрын
This was hysterically funny !!! One thing I think you have in reverse about the Schumanns: We would almost certainly not know Robbie had it not been for Clara.
@KlimatorUzurpator91
@KlimatorUzurpator91 2 жыл бұрын
Misconception with Bach... love his works for solo violin and also fugues. His music is divine.
@Zivilin
@Zivilin Жыл бұрын
3:25 That is not true. I like Handel. 😔
@behnamzarandi8031
@behnamzarandi8031 Жыл бұрын
The accuracy of your descriptions 👏👏
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker Жыл бұрын
Thanks🙌🏻
@janecrook2733
@janecrook2733 10 ай бұрын
When will we hear your compositions?
@gigogrom216
@gigogrom216 2 жыл бұрын
Brahms is not a simp, he just paying respect to his friends Robert and Clara
@sergei-prokofiev
@sergei-prokofiev 2 жыл бұрын
Welll the Prokofiev one is definitely not true for Prokofiev lovers but probably true for the rest of the world, but that 6th war sonata you put in its simpely amazing!!!
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
I personally love Prokofiev, and at least his Romeo and Juliet had been choreographed several times and became so famous... More than Peter and the Wolf for sure
@sergei-prokofiev
@sergei-prokofiev 2 жыл бұрын
@@emanuelebabici yeas true but all not so great pieces in comparison to his 2nd piano concerto
@bernabefernandeztouceda7315
@bernabefernandeztouceda7315 2 жыл бұрын
@@sergei-prokofiev that concerto is especially good, u right, one of prokofiev best works, intense and ominous
@oritdrimer4354
@oritdrimer4354 2 жыл бұрын
I love his First sonata and his Second Piano Concerto.
@emanuelebabici
@emanuelebabici 2 жыл бұрын
@@sergei-prokofiev I love his 2nd Piano Concerto, what are you talking about 😂 I was just saying Peter and the Wolf isn't even his most famous work, because Romeo and Juliet is known and played worldwide, and I am personally very attached to it because I love the ballet
@samuelealtomare3400
@samuelealtomare3400 10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for the ignorance, but which work is Shostakovich's piece? I used shazam but he didn't work
@lukassorowka2672
@lukassorowka2672 Жыл бұрын
1:12 does anybody know the name of this piece. Its just so incredibly beautiful
@Amadea27
@Amadea27 Жыл бұрын
It's one of my favourite pieces. Schumann Symphony no3 Rheinische IV Movement. If you like this piece you might want to listen to all 4 symphonies. Lots of great material to enjoy!
@lukassorowka2672
@lukassorowka2672 Жыл бұрын
@@Amadea27 thank you 🥰
@rezasorna
@rezasorna Жыл бұрын
I loved every one of your jokes :D but how dare you mock Lord Bach's fugues! :D Well done!
@luddoro
@luddoro Жыл бұрын
What's the name of Bartòk piece?
@minniexplayer5405
@minniexplayer5405 2 жыл бұрын
Which piece is playing during Schumann?
@volpe_5000
@volpe_5000 2 жыл бұрын
Symphony 3, iv feierlich
@ligetisspaghetti5763
@ligetisspaghetti5763 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love Bach’s fugues especially on the organ :/
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
😬Playing is even less fun, no that's wrong it's more fun but very difficult😂
@ligetisspaghetti5763
@ligetisspaghetti5763 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker well, I play cello, so no fugues for me 😁
@frenchimp
@frenchimp Жыл бұрын
@@ligetisspaghetti5763 There is a fugue in the prelude of one of the six Cello suites. I forget which one. A very beautiful fugue.
@emmanelson5363
@emmanelson5363 Жыл бұрын
Fellow Tchaikovsky-enthusiast here. Your video did not disappoint. XD
@dankfootage5343
@dankfootage5343 Жыл бұрын
1:53 What’s the name of this piece?
@josephwagner7277
@josephwagner7277 Жыл бұрын
What is the piece played at 0:54
@freezafrezado9472
@freezafrezado9472 2 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the Liszt's piece? 1:52
@franzurjisorabliszt
@franzurjisorabliszt 2 жыл бұрын
Spanish Rhapsody
@freezafrezado9472
@freezafrezado9472 2 жыл бұрын
@@franzurjisorabliszt Thank you very very very much
@sirbowman3158
@sirbowman3158 2 жыл бұрын
Me anytime someone says something bad about Wagner's character: Yeah, he was a real douchebag Me anytime anyone says a single negative thing about his music: Listen here you little schieße...
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 Жыл бұрын
Kapitol S.
@IR4TE
@IR4TE Жыл бұрын
*Scheiße but in this case you might want to use 'Scheißer'
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 Жыл бұрын
@@IR4TE masculine not feminine ❓
@IR4TE
@IR4TE Жыл бұрын
@@treystephens6166 Scheiße is just the noun for shit/poop, Scheißer is the word for the person who's a little shit/bugger. You could use the feminine form which would be 'Scheißerin' if you talk about a female, but usually for everyone the masculine form gets used.
@vincentsmit1935
@vincentsmit1935 Жыл бұрын
If you can listen to Götterdämmerung without vibing, maybe life just isn't for you idk
@rutcimmusic
@rutcimmusic Жыл бұрын
pls can someone either make a list or tell me where the list is for the pieces in this 😭
@limsingwei3149
@limsingwei3149 2 жыл бұрын
Heyy Berlioz’s other stuff slaps too-Les nuits d’ete for instance is utterly gorgeous
@vibratoqueen450
@vibratoqueen450 2 жыл бұрын
Me, a butthurt Bruckner fanatic: "Seriously, where did we get the 'same symphony 9 times' thing??? Ugh. No one UNDERSTANDS Bruckner, which is why I am so special for worshipping him against his will!!!"
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
@Carl-FriedrichWelker 2 жыл бұрын
Bruckner is in my top 5 so I agree with you😂Was hard to find something bad about him so I went with that😂
@tkengathegrateful4844
@tkengathegrateful4844 2 жыл бұрын
I was certain that the joke was that it wasn't a joke. 🙂
@seriouslysupersonic
@seriouslysupersonic Жыл бұрын
One simply does not mess with Chopin and Rachmaninoff. Period. Other than that, pretty accurate.
@nokres9654
@nokres9654 11 ай бұрын
Where does this excerpt come from at 2:34 ?
@maximzavialov5396
@maximzavialov5396 10 ай бұрын
Can someone help, what piece is it? 1:06
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