Why Your Vintage Cartier Is Fake and Unsellable.

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Жыл бұрын

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Cartier! How do you wear a Cartier? What are the RULES of a Cartier? Why is Christian obsessed with a small square watch? Well...we touch on that rather extensively. Cartier made so few watches for so long that's it's incredible to find a genuine vintage one...but...even if the case is Cartier, the movement is Cartier, and the dial is Cartier...it could still be very much fake. Why? How? Find out today!
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@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris Жыл бұрын
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@markreynolds9135
@markreynolds9135 Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of wiping of noses going on. Coke anyone?
@antonylimbouris1992
@antonylimbouris1992 Жыл бұрын
Foooor sure ! Cooooking !
@Adskie
@Adskie Жыл бұрын
Fellas, love the channel. Topic request. You guys often mention in passing about how wild and different the watch industry used to be in the mid 20th century. I would love to hear your take on the history of it.
@amelarti8962
@amelarti8962 Жыл бұрын
Big time
@orangehand7929
@orangehand7929 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this was purposeful or not, but funny that you discuss Goldberger and the fake Cartier Crash article by Perezcope in the same episode, but don’t discuss his most recent article exposing one of Goldberger’s most famous watches, the Unicorn Daytona, which sold at Phillips for $6million is a Frankenstein put together with incorrect and potentially fake parts.
@rajratansingh2399
@rajratansingh2399 Жыл бұрын
The watch is not fake but, its been restored by Goldberger.. from the screws to the scratches... but not fake..
@ethanguiel7699
@ethanguiel7699 Жыл бұрын
You're in luck, theres a Theo and Harris episode on just that
@orangehand7929
@orangehand7929 Жыл бұрын
@@ethanguiel7699 yup the one that came after this one!
@MDSkai
@MDSkai Жыл бұрын
You 2 are a nice morning coffee duo. Good start to a Monday
@spslayback
@spslayback Жыл бұрын
Take a drink every time one of them touches their noses.
@okfinn1
@okfinn1 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, love the videos, wondering if you could do one on how to settle on a watch while looking. I find myself switching between watches too frequently to end up buying one, and feel like this might be relatable for some
@peterb.1273
@peterb.1273 Жыл бұрын
Most relatable comment ever. I have been back and forth for like 2 months and the only reason I haven’t pulled the trigger is because I see so many I like.
@bretkindsvatter3574
@bretkindsvatter3574 Жыл бұрын
Same here Finn
@mannyprieres7150
@mannyprieres7150 Жыл бұрын
This is so interesting! Funny thing, I've heard that Andy Warhol's art has had similar problems. Back in the day of the Warhol Factory, it was rumored that his assistants would make paintings on the side to giveaway or sell to people back door style. The paintings were screen prints, so it was easy to do. They are coming from the legit source but not authorized by the artist. Anyways love the channel and hope all is well.
@MaartenAnna
@MaartenAnna Жыл бұрын
Hell even Rembrandt let his students make paintings in his name.
@vnctmrn
@vnctmrn Жыл бұрын
A LOT of super rare comex and daytonas and all those rare vintage watches you see on instagram are totally frankensteined from real and fake/vietnam parts.
@WINDINGCROWNS
@WINDINGCROWNS Жыл бұрын
@Michael , your "How Bizarre" comment in the OMC (voice) didn't go unnoticed. 😂
@YippeeKiYayMrFalcon
@YippeeKiYayMrFalcon Жыл бұрын
It's because you kept saying "Porsh". If you had said "Porsche" (Porsh-uh) she would've been "OH YES! OF COURSE!"
@This_is_me_2024
@This_is_me_2024 Жыл бұрын
❄❄Had a big coke binge night?
@MrIcanfly1234
@MrIcanfly1234 Жыл бұрын
legendary goldberger and his fake white gold daytona
@MrIcanfly1234
@MrIcanfly1234 Жыл бұрын
jose (perezscope) mentioned in a podcast that philips or some auction house offered to hire him and when they wouldnt pull the watches he thought were bullsht he left
@CartierCrash
@CartierCrash Жыл бұрын
Is there any info on this I can find?
@MrIcanfly1234
@MrIcanfly1234 Жыл бұрын
@@CartierCrash www.scottishwatches.co.uk/2023/01/09/scottish-watches-podcast-429-fake-rolex-watches-and-exposing-the-auction-world-with-perezcope/?fbclid=PAAabpGoi8JJbgwoWJ4Q8YNbh-eQc1QxlX_u_iv4DNmZ5IlQR-pWeyIpGbXyk He mentions it in this episode
@simongoddard8490
@simongoddard8490 Жыл бұрын
@@CartierCrash check out todays Scottish Watches Podcast (episode 429)
@CartierCrash
@CartierCrash Жыл бұрын
@@MrIcanfly1234 I just listened whilst at work. That is insane.
@Rosay__
@Rosay__ Жыл бұрын
Very interesting discussion. Curious to hear your thoughts on Perez and the Unicorn…. Thanks guys!
@youeverseethesehandsfly5334
@youeverseethesehandsfly5334 Жыл бұрын
People who's entire body language revolves around the watch on their wrist, cannot be trusted.
@JoeyJiggles
@JoeyJiggles Жыл бұрын
That Constellation is amazing!
@memonion4515
@memonion4515 Жыл бұрын
If it's confirmed to be made by a Cartier watchmaker within the Cartier factory who was a friend of another Cartier employee and just sold it off the books then it adds a really cool story to that watch. IMO it makes the watch much more interesting than other crashes that were just commissioned by some rich Cartier clients.
@evano8312
@evano8312 Жыл бұрын
Michael, with your comment about the lugs on the Zenith Chronomaster OG was that the 2018 or 2021 version because there is a lug thickness change 🤨
@kylena7533
@kylena7533 Жыл бұрын
The intro was hilarious! HOW DO YA NOT KNOW!?!?!
@mikelboudica5389
@mikelboudica5389 Жыл бұрын
by minute 3:00 the blond guy has touched his nose around 10 times and the guy with glasses about 3. They messed up by mentioning that in the last episode, now is just impossible not to get annoyed by it.
@akinigiri
@akinigiri Жыл бұрын
I do not know how the 911 looks like well. What is the diff with a carrera? What is the diff with the cayman? I know there is an SUV like one, cayene. My father had a small one and the suv at some point when I was young but I just never got beyond this point.
@Leby69
@Leby69 Жыл бұрын
The Cartier ghost watches are an interesting bunch
@drfranke
@drfranke Жыл бұрын
STOP PICKING YOUR NOSE!!
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris Жыл бұрын
It’s itchy
@dimman77
@dimman77 Жыл бұрын
Allegedly Jose did have a background in replica/counterfeit Panerai way back in the day...
@m.e.p.r
@m.e.p.r Жыл бұрын
I see that Michael purchased a Speedmaster Pro over the holidays. I'm guessing the hesolite version
@user-fi5fr9us2t
@user-fi5fr9us2t Жыл бұрын
Finally an interesting show, no bashing! YEY! Follow this line...
@augieonorato2377
@augieonorato2377 Жыл бұрын
Blackberry Gingerale, that is a classy choice
@Uprightwatches
@Uprightwatches Жыл бұрын
I heard since the vintage market is so valuable that other countries are making vintage watches and I think that’s what’s happening with a lot of them when we say I’ve never seen this type before or so many flaws I think they’re making fake ones over seas especially very expensive ones but of course it’s not gonna turn out right
@omar10213245
@omar10213245 Жыл бұрын
i have a vintage Calatrava made by the government of Mozambique. It's godawful.
@samstraughan9054
@samstraughan9054 Жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of fake Vemeer's that were auctioned and sold as authentic for some period of time...Now it is the case that these fakes are themselves collectible, and fetch quite a premium, simply because they were accepted for so long as real...the 'artist' became collectible as the creator of the fakes.
@JeanSuki
@JeanSuki Жыл бұрын
Mind you, the story of Han van Meegeren who painted the fakes is also super interesting. He had too prove in court that he could paint the fakes, because he was charged with selling Vermeers to N*zi Germany.
@watchcurtisn
@watchcurtisn Жыл бұрын
That GMT is everything...
@zulu6ix290
@zulu6ix290 Жыл бұрын
Micheal - oh a new scene… better rubs my nose 1000 times
@watchingu83
@watchingu83 Жыл бұрын
So F’n annoying. Can’t even watch the episode watching him wipe his nose like a coke head the entire 30 minute video. RIDICULOUS
@44daggers44
@44daggers44 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Anna! How is she doing these days?
@44daggers44
@44daggers44 Жыл бұрын
Ps the blue john mayer Casio is awesome :)
@gluon8760
@gluon8760 Жыл бұрын
Guys , I really like you. You are so funny 😂
@Fitzi9r
@Fitzi9r Жыл бұрын
I love this channel. This is quickly becoming my favorite thing to watch on KZfaq.
@bjoernaltmann
@bjoernaltmann Жыл бұрын
Under no circumstances would a real Cartier have cast hallmarks. Casting hallmarks is a crime in any case. In the UK, precious metal items over a certain weight have to be sent to an Assay Office - London in this instance - to be hallmarked. It cannot be done by anyone else or in a different manner.
@calvinontime
@calvinontime Жыл бұрын
Curious how many under-the-table Cartiers are on Chrono24 right now...
@dude...are-you-sure
@dude...are-you-sure Жыл бұрын
I can understand why Anna don't know what Porsche is. She has absolutely no interest in cars except as a form of transportation. Now if it were watches then it'll be different. Lol
@imjulesgabriel
@imjulesgabriel Жыл бұрын
The Porsche story would hold up better if any of them knew how to pronounce Cartier. Shes not interested in cars, hes not interested in language/words.
@300IQPUG
@300IQPUG Жыл бұрын
Christian is whats EVERYTHING wrong with the watch world
@rickjason215
@rickjason215 Жыл бұрын
No minimum on the bidding? There are hundreds of parts that can be compared to known Cartiers.
@SelectBlendHAF
@SelectBlendHAF Жыл бұрын
Love the show. Could you guys stop hitting the table or move the mic? Really love the show again.
@Joyhappyfree
@Joyhappyfree Жыл бұрын
How we looking on those podcasts boys? You could probably just use the audio from your videos and upload them 😉 t
@BonnerRepublik
@BonnerRepublik Жыл бұрын
Check out the Scottish Watches podcast with Perezcope that came out today (January 9).
@thewatchbro
@thewatchbro Жыл бұрын
It's true. I bought a fake one from ebay without knowing it was fake. I sent it in for authentication and they came back and said "sorry." This was before the bay guarantee though. So I gave it to my 9 year old lol
@jthink1984
@jthink1984 Жыл бұрын
Saw a guy in the gym yesterday wearing a gold Tank Louis on alligator strap. Fuckin legendary.
@stevelangsdorf7307
@stevelangsdorf7307 Жыл бұрын
Christian, how many tries did it take to get that exact fold in your jacket collar for the fake casual look, just saying 🤔
@Joe-xo3xy
@Joe-xo3xy Жыл бұрын
concerning Goldberger: I will like to differentiate between a merchant and a collector; No way did Goldberger spend a load of money on watches simply for a recreational purpose. I do think ppl who collect to purposely sell are not collectors
@foodie1986
@foodie1986 Ай бұрын
that cartier would be worth so much more.
@mydentalhouse
@mydentalhouse Жыл бұрын
Lay off the white coffee guys..
@Arc1517
@Arc1517 Жыл бұрын
Christian has the WG Pepsi warmed you up to modern sports watches at all?
@67whitegoat4
@67whitegoat4 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, you don’t know what a 911 is!? We’re done. I can’t be with you anymore.
@jamesnewton3739
@jamesnewton3739 Жыл бұрын
Love the jacket Christian, Where is it from?
@nourineahmed5462
@nourineahmed5462 Жыл бұрын
Huckberry
@juanfelipemv
@juanfelipemv Жыл бұрын
Which one of these clowns is Theo and which one is Harris ?
@rudyvasquez3917
@rudyvasquez3917 Жыл бұрын
Rofl!!!
@Peter-2704
@Peter-2704 Жыл бұрын
Perezcope made an appearance on today's Scottish Watches Podcast. Check it out.
@russellis6993
@russellis6993 Жыл бұрын
Unicorn fake Daytona elephant in the room with Goldberger ...
@stevelangsdorf7307
@stevelangsdorf7307 Жыл бұрын
Michael, I am really enjoying watching you become the Alpha right before our very 👀 eyes.
@nathanf1934
@nathanf1934 Жыл бұрын
Haha neither are Alpha!
@stevelangsdorf7307
@stevelangsdorf7307 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanf1934 I didn't say was I said become, and you are right they are both Beta's
@mikelboudica5389
@mikelboudica5389 Жыл бұрын
you mean the top?
@Dr.K-MD.DMD.
@Dr.K-MD.DMD. Жыл бұрын
Vacheron does custom watches
@Bleppity
@Bleppity Жыл бұрын
Masterworks is a very high risk investment vehicle.
@mozangeles631
@mozangeles631 Жыл бұрын
Damn … beat me to it 😒
@gislisnbjornsson690
@gislisnbjornsson690 Жыл бұрын
WHAT IS UP WITH THE NOSE TOUCHING!!!!!
@MaartenAnna
@MaartenAnna Жыл бұрын
S#$% my father in law owns a tank, we need to up the insurance... 😉
@TheDryDown
@TheDryDown Жыл бұрын
Please turn in your watch douche cards for not referring to him as Auro Montanari :) nice episode gents.
@christopherhoglund4962
@christopherhoglund4962 Жыл бұрын
…the same way we don’t notice a new haircut or shoes.
@maripetluk
@maripetluk 4 ай бұрын
You could be more interesting. If you were not what you are. But the fact that I'm watching you two right now is not speaking in my favour. So keep on rolling!
@jameskearney1185
@jameskearney1185 Жыл бұрын
Ayo the 911 is the best car ever
@samuelburton5576
@samuelburton5576 Жыл бұрын
????!!!!! Really
@greggoodrich7161
@greggoodrich7161 Жыл бұрын
Drinking game: drink every time Jeff and Mutt scratch their noses. Shotgun if they start scratching each other’s noses.
@omar10213245
@omar10213245 Жыл бұрын
cocaine can be itchy
@BBGinCDM
@BBGinCDM Жыл бұрын
Thinking exact same. That ain't a cold. And pure distraction from otherwise great video.
@danryan4137
@danryan4137 Жыл бұрын
If she hasn’t seen a Mini Cooper……Dump her😂
@AceAlvarezNYC
@AceAlvarezNYC Жыл бұрын
I would’ve broken up with her on the spot 🤷🏻‍♂️
@birkrum4630
@birkrum4630 Жыл бұрын
Perez did it on purpose to get a chrash for less than 400k
@artteelange5045
@artteelange5045 Жыл бұрын
Who's Theo and who's Harris?
@rudyvasquez3917
@rudyvasquez3917 Жыл бұрын
I love this comment lol
@omar10213245
@omar10213245 Жыл бұрын
Harris is the one in glasses. Not sure who Theo is, unless he's talking about the son on the Cosby show.
@rudyvasquez3917
@rudyvasquez3917 Жыл бұрын
@@omar10213245 this guy lmao hahahaha
@gabrielw7929
@gabrielw7929 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy the channel… air purifier sponsor pronto, to clear the allergens.
@Benzo1818
@Benzo1818 Жыл бұрын
WTF is always going on with them rubbing. picking & itching their noses???...God Damn!?🤨
@omar10213245
@omar10213245 Жыл бұрын
nose candy for breakfast makes for an itchy afternoon. . .
@fark69
@fark69 Жыл бұрын
I'd hate to be a girl dating the tan one. You'd have to hear him talk about cars and watches all the time and if you don't know as much about these things as some basement dwelling moderator of the carsandwatches subreddit he doesn't talk to you the rest of dinner. Yikes
@BAF605
@BAF605 Жыл бұрын
I think they both bat for the other team.😉😉
@nathanf1934
@nathanf1934 Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought they were together.
@Adskie
@Adskie Жыл бұрын
Well aren’t y’all a bunch of negative wankers 🙂
@matthewteh2000
@matthewteh2000 Жыл бұрын
first view dang
@defenderwhatsright7863
@defenderwhatsright7863 Жыл бұрын
the stories and content is fine but can you stop picking your nose and eating on cam its pretty grubby , relaying to viewers your personal hygiene is below par . Also don't spit out your drink on cam please ? ! 🙄
@FrankieJames14
@FrankieJames14 Жыл бұрын
Dear Theo, I had to stop watching because you literally picked your nose… I mean you always mess with your nose ( which annoyed me always) but in this vid I threw up in my mouth.
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