Wide Range Drivetrain: 9-Speed 11-50T Cassette

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Wide Range Drivetrain: 9-Speed 11-50T Cassette

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A wide range drivetrain refers to a big cassette with gear ranges that is capable to get you up on steep hills and down on the road.
The 9 speed cassette features cogs from 11 teeth to 50 teeth.
Divide the number of teeth on the largest cog by the smallest, then multiply that by 100, that gives this 11-50t cassette a gear range of 454%.
9-Speed 11-50t Cassette (50T, 42T, 36T, 30T, 24T, 20T, 16T, 13T, 11T)
Anything around or over 450% can be considered wide range.
Paired with the SRAM X7 shifter and SRAM SX-4 derailleur with 1:1 actuation ratio.
The SRAM SX-4 measures 95mm long and it has been proven to give good clearance in fitting a 11-46t cassette with hanger extension.
Derailleur Capacity: What Fits 11-46T Cassette? • Derailleur Capacity: W...
This is going to make a much wider gear range compared with the old 11-28t cassette.
The hub is a 10-speed hub, therefore, no spacer is required to fit the 9-speed cassette.
A hanger extension is required to fit with the wide range cassette.
Tighten the B-Tension screw to extend the gap between the guide pulley and the bottom of the cog.
Adjust the limit screws if necessary.
Let’s take a look at the gear ratios with the 30t chainring and 11-50t cassette.
Gear ratios ranging from low 0.60 to high 2.73.
Singlespeed Conversion: Gear Ratios • Singlespeed Conversion...
The 1x chainring works beautifuly with the wide range cassette on mountain trails and uphills.
Drivetrain setup:
Race Face 30t narrow wide chainring
Ztto 11-50t cassette
SRAM X7 shifter
SRAM SX-7 long cage derailleur
More wide range cassette:
Uphill Resistance: Ztto 8-Speed 11-46T Cassette • Uphill Resistance: Ztt...
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@-Gothicgirl- 11 ай бұрын

And now 3x in front for ultimate range🤣

@2001Artfull 10 ай бұрын

I have a wider range with my 11-40 rear cassette and triple chainring 42-32-20. However, for trail riding your setup would be great. I ride long steep logging roads and paved roads to get home. As always, no one setup works perfectly for all rides. Thanks for the info on this particular setup. Very useful for us all.

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

where did you find a 20t chainring? is it 64bcd?

@whitepawrolls 5 ай бұрын

I have this same 9 speed on my electric recumbent. I love it for this. You made the better choice for derailleur though. Think I may swap mine and the shifter :)

@froglegs4910 3 ай бұрын

Very appreciated for your high quality video work ! Very informative tutorial !

@gofiodetrigo8756 2 ай бұрын

you just gave me hope thanks for sharing

@Dbuueb09736 6 ай бұрын

Me will go ahead with this 11-50 setup on my Trek 8 hardtail dualcontrol vbrake xtr 3x9 existing.

@kovar2344 Жыл бұрын

haha thats a crazy build, well done

@greenleafycabbage8715 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Thats a huge gear ratio for a 9 speed drivetrain. Im gonna try this on my budget bike using ltwoo elite derailleur

@-Gothicgirl- 11 ай бұрын

Then think how much the gear ratio is when it is a 3x9 is with that cassette 😂

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

@@-Gothicgirl- thats what im running right now its kinda addicting having this much gear range

@gothserch 27 күн бұрын

Hello. I would like to have this setup for my gravel bike. Can you recommend a lever model that can be compatible with sram sx4 and the 11-50 t casette?

@marcelo4741 Жыл бұрын

Very good video! Thank you!!

@hanndrayeapphicolibre5214 Жыл бұрын

Can I use 10 speed rear derailleur to my 11-50t 9 speed cassette?

@mauriciogianotti8039 Жыл бұрын

Yup

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

as long as your shifter is 9s itl work fine

@Comby500 2 жыл бұрын

I like this video. Can you give some informations? How long is chain? What is chainline?

@user-mc2rv1vu1d 5 ай бұрын

hi, can i use chain 8 speed to upgrade 11 speed as your solution? tks

@portioliluca 2 жыл бұрын

But isn't there too much pedaling difference between each shift? does the chain go well from the small to the large sprocket?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

The shifting isn’t very smooth but the chain goes very well.

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

i have one of these cassettes and yeah the gaps between the gears are quite big, its not really a problem though if you live somewhere hilly enough to justify a 50t when i hit flatter terrain though im really wishing i had closer gears though pretty easy to upgrade to an 11s though

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

@@DanyoSports yeah mines not very smooth either lol, gotta keep my chain clean and lubed for it to shift right

@shinobusensui9395 10 ай бұрын

50t !!!! In urban environment what this be like at 20% gradient hill?

@agungsukariman 11 ай бұрын

love you man

@abstraddic0442 Жыл бұрын

So, Did you need to add any chain links because of the wide range diameter ? I'm only assuming not, since it wasn't mentioned ? thank you for this very helpful video. 👍

@DanyoSports Жыл бұрын

Yes, you’ll need to add a few chain links.

@bisaleethonger4756 Жыл бұрын

Will it work on Triban Rc 500 please? I have 9 speed sora

@crustytoenail1110 Жыл бұрын

I can't get my x4 to work with a 40t cog....looks like your derailleur hanger is extra low which would explain why mine can't achieve this

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

yeah you need a hanger extention, normally one is included with these huge cassettes, i needed an extra long one for mine as the included one wasnt long enough lol

@majkapiotr 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, the guy explains in every video that you need hanger extension...

@GuiltyPresents Жыл бұрын

How long should the chain be?

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

very long lol

@Brodiesfunction 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 8 speed hub and would like to have this 9 speed wide ratio casette, could I remove the second smallest cog to fit my hub?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

Your hub should fit with the 9 speed cassette, so there’s no need to remove a cog to make it fit.

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

im using a 9 speed on an 8 speed hub atm, it just works! theoretically you can put a 13 speed on an 8 speed hub lol... theoretically

@ree-yantamayo4401 2 жыл бұрын

what is that speed of the chain is it 9 speed. or 10 speed?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a 9 speed chain.

@Showdipta 2 жыл бұрын

Can i use with sram X4?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, make sure it is a long cage derailleur.

@thecuberman2222 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I have a question: what is the quality of the ztto cassette, how durable do you think it is? I would like to make a drivetrain like yours, but i don't know, if this is a good and budget or a bad chinese brand.

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, the quality is as good as the Shimano brand and I haven’t had any issues so far.

@crabtrap Жыл бұрын

every thing is "china brand" dummy

@spygamer6750 2 жыл бұрын

What brand is that?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

The brand is Ztto.

@alexolaverri192 Жыл бұрын

Can you provide information on the derailleur hanger you are using on this project. TIA

@DanyoSports Жыл бұрын

The hanger is included when you purchase the cassette.

@slodziak222222 8 ай бұрын

try longer chain

@ezoez7548 10 ай бұрын

Could i possibly do this with a 38t chainring?

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

any chainring you want will work i had a 38 for a while but eventually went down to an oval 32t and a 22t right now im running a 3x with 24 34 42 chainrings it all works great you want to make sure the chanline is inwards enough for the chain to run smoothely on the biggest cogs, i had to use some spacers to do that and then it seems to work great no matter what chainrings i run

@Icehso140 2 жыл бұрын

I have NEVER used the 11 and 13T sprocket on the trail or road to trail segments. I wish they'd stop putting them on cassettes for Mtn bikes.

@johnsuarez1404 2 жыл бұрын

That's a problem with your chainring, not your cassette. You need a smaller chainring.

@johnsuarez1404 2 жыл бұрын

@jon dough then you don't understand chainrings. 11t should always be the smallest cog. The chainring determines what the max gear ratio is.

@johnsuarez1404 2 жыл бұрын

@jon dough you could argue that that's a better design, but that's not how cassettes are made. The standard for the smallest cog is 11 teeth. Ergo, op needs a smaller chainring.

@danieljonsson8095 Жыл бұрын

It's a casette.... YOU decide what gears you want. If you want your smallest to be 20T, simply put a 20T as your smallest. It's a casette, not a freewheel. You're only limited by your derailleur's ability to switch the chain between the sizes. Other than that it's all up to you.

@chachenaki_kichenancha 2 жыл бұрын

Could shimano SLX 9 gear shifter have range to shift to the biggest gear ?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not the shifter that gives you the wide range, it’s the derailleur.

@marklouieadame Жыл бұрын

Also you may need an extension to make sure you sont over stretch

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

@@marklouieadame yeah i have an extra long one, the one that came with my cassette wasnt long enough for my m760 derailleur which is only meant for a 34t

@andresfandiyan9737 2 жыл бұрын

what chain ring size teeth size don you use ?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

The chainring is 30t.

@idrist29 2 жыл бұрын

Chain 10 speed or 11 speed???

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a 10 speed chain.

@manuelrojas3259 2 жыл бұрын

Can I do this with the regular sram x-4 derailleur?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

You need a long cage derailleur.

@crustytoenail1110 Жыл бұрын

@@DanyoSports I have the Sram x4 but it won't shift into my lowest cog (40t) any idea why I can't get mine to work? I've adjusted the B screw all the way forward and all the way back and the pulley is too close to the lowest cog and rubs

@nzo_6543 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy how ZTTO somehow copied Box Components Prime 9 50t cassette

@FantaFuture92 2 жыл бұрын

That's a Sunrace design. Box rebrands Sunrace casettes.

@nzo_6543 2 жыл бұрын

@@FantaFuture92 Oohh, i just didn't know more about between Box and Sunrace,

@FantaFuture92 2 жыл бұрын

@@nzo_6543 box only makes the derailleur and shifter. you can also use any 9 speed chain. Problem is that you have to use 2 chains to get the length. Also dont get box prime 9.i have it and it's the worst drive train i tried. Try microshift if you dont want to go with the big brands

@nzo_6543 2 жыл бұрын

@@FantaFuture92 Yeah, I mean Box is really not meant from anybody that their thumbs aren't stubby enough. And they recommended a chain guide because it causing chain drops. And this is the two of the cons of Box's drivetrain parts.

@nzo_6543 2 жыл бұрын

@@FantaFuture92 Also L-TWOO, I tried it and shifts great, made by a CEO of SRAM factory in China and that factory was closed that he made his own bike parts, I've been Using the 10 speed version and shifts great, also i realized that SRAM and LTWOO rear derailleurs are similar.

@jonabub 2 жыл бұрын

Where can i get the 11-50 cassette? I never heard of it, is it a new product? Thank you for your great videos, i love them all!

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, these wide range cassettes came out not so long ago, I got it from AliExpress.

@jonabub 2 жыл бұрын

@@DanyoSports Thank you for the hint! I can't wait to see what you have planned next. I'm going to try the disc brake conversion and the cassette-conversion on some of my bikes. Probably I will install a friction switch as I am looking for rugged and no maintenance solutions, what control did you use? Trigger shift?

@DanyoSports 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, I'm using the SRAM X-7 trigger shifter.

@jonabub 2 жыл бұрын

@@DanyoSports Nice, thanks for the advice! :)

@snorttroll4379 Жыл бұрын

@@jonabub what is a friction switch?

@lucywucyyy 9 ай бұрын

i have a 9 speed 11 to 50 goldix cassette, it has a slightly smoother shift pattern than the ztto one in one of the cogs but besides that is the same and its pretty fuckin great especially for the price, i dont like 1x though, too much friction and finnickyness and not enough range using this with a 3x atm and ive become addicted to the low low low gearing im yet to find a hill so steep i cant climb it even when im towing a trailer and pannier bags short cranks and oval chainrings make steep hills eeeeven easier ive got plans to build what might be a world record for gear range drivetrain in the future when ive got the money gonna run a 11 to 52 13 speed with 22 32 42 chainrings gonna have more gears than i know what to do with lol