Yeah you're probably right LOL

I agree, but "The Black Hole" was already a spectacular failure. Big cast, production values on a grand scale, really bad script.

Ok Snowflakes. Haters gonna hate??

"Somehow, Reindhardt returned."

Disney remake on the Black Hole :Cartman says “Put a chick in it and make her gay.” Disney destroys Star Wars. Disney is a hot mess right now.

It's an Art Deco masterpiece

I used to build it out of Legos when I was a kid.

Not original but I loved this comment “ Maximilian Schellenberg inside the shell of Maximilian,,, laughed like crazy!

Autocorrect strikes again!

They will ruin it with a remake. Reinhart will be a trans lesbian, the captain will be a latina(yes female officer), Mr Booth will be black, Kate will be Asian, Alex will be played by a mixed race guy, and the robots will be females. It will be bogged down with identity politics.

@@MrMarcy76 I don't see the problem with a diverse cast. If the actors can act, what's the worry?

@@AndrewGivens my problem is when they can't act, and it's when its forced. You just know they will mess it up with a remake.

Very clever plan words LOL that's awesome :-) cheers, Dan

He was one of my favorite actors. Side note ... it feels like the ending falls into Brainstorm, with Natalie Wood and Christopher Walken.

Yeh, I have trouble accepting Reinhart can float in the vacuum of space unharmed, able to breathe, to meld with Maximilian without being destroyed, not to mention what was the purpose of that? LAME! Very disappointing.

I see what you did there..😂😂

The movie had some wonderful one-liners :-)

If a pint is holding a pint, it's doing the best it can do@@MoviesMusicMonsters

20,000 Leagues PLUS a lot of haunted house / castle / cathedral / etc. movies

Scariest thing in the whole movie was the menacing Maximilian. Freaking unstoppable it seemed.

Your heart is square??

@@joelonsdale That's what happens when you go through The Black Hole!

@@Kansas462 Then I won't be doing that THANK YOU.

I concur 💯%

I did too :-)

There is a way. Joe Biden figured it out a few years ago. See, the fireballs sealed the ship as they went down the ship. The pressure actually increased within the ship but the hull was equipped with pressure relief valves which immediately opened at approximately 28.4 psi. President Biden also noted they would have then closed when the ship started losing hull integrity all over, experiencing what he called 'catastrophic' damage. But, as he noted, the ship's frame was largely intact when it entered the black hole.

Understandable. Hard to show distraction in Space and make it cinematic.

Same thing with The Empire Strikes Back where they get out of the Millennium Falcon in belly the space worm just wearing face masks but no pressure suits.

great comment~!

Yeah, well spotted! Ernest Borgnine and Maximillian Schell are ok too

Excellent insight!

So they hired 3 actors who’s surnames are always mispronounced.

Same here. It was a dark psychological thriller that was far too intense for me at age 8 or 9.

Very under rated movie. Much better than Star-Wars actually.

They have the ALIEN franchise as well and many others. Remember Disney bought Fox some years ago.

Honestly I'm a bit surprised that a remake hasn't been made yet. But I understand Disney is working on one. We'll see.

I agree, and would actually like to see a not shot-for-shot remake, but a close reinterpretation with, as you say, stronger key elements. I've thought this for a good ten years now. - Yet: Isn't 'Interstellar' basically the unauthorised rewrite of this movie? A mission to find a habitable planet, following after a first lost one; an oddly-shaped robot with character qualities that grate on the crew; a mentally unhinged lone survivor of the stranded first mission, close to a black hole; horror movie / ghost story elements; a final plunge through into the unknowable - and revelation? Yep, seems like the whole 'haunted house movie in space with a black hole' was redone by Nolan - and that's even if you discount 'Event Horizon' from the candidacy (because that one is significantly more different again).

Definitely need to clean up the wooden dialogue and maybe some more complexity to why they stayed ("everyone knows") and drop the wild west shootouts those are overdone. Have Denis Villeneuve direct and I'm sure it will blow us away. But I'm worried Disney would try and franchise it with multiple sequels and somehow make it political.

THANK YOU!

Following that scene up, the "being" floating down the shining tunnel, I took to be Jesus making sure that Reinhart got his proper punishment for what he did to his crew, as well as his creation. I'm also unsure of the "cloaked figures" walking along the fires of Hell, if they are the crew of the Cignus, or the condemned who were already there.

@@IggyStardust1967 I thought that shinny tunnel being was more angel than Jesus, but the idea is the same. I believe those other beings in Hell were former sinners being punished. Some of them could have been former crew members. Not the innocent ones Reinhardt brainwashed, but remember some of the crew joined Reinhardt in his takeover.

@@starbrand3726 I understand why you would say "Angel", but (to me) the position of the being "in the shape of a cross/crucified person" is what made me think it was Jesus himself. Also, given the absolute evil things that Reinhart did, "the boss" would likely handle that one, personally. If you take my meaning. Plus, being trapped in/merged with Maximillion (his most evil creation) was a fitting punishment. The only thing about that, to me, is that he/they appeared to "rule" in Hell. Or, at least, be in charge of some. Which may have been indicative of Reinhart being Satan himself. There are many levels to the imagery of that scene. Which is why I found the ending not only satisfying, but also quite in depth and open to interpretation. Much like the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey. For the "hooded figures", yeah, I'm thinking the same thing, upon reflection about it again. Probably a mix of both "previous sinners", and those who helped Reinhart do what he did. Also, when Reinhart mentioned his crew "they didn't make it back?", along with that smirk of his.... which he followed with, "Pity. Such a good crew." that was about as sincere as the sun is cold. That told me that none of them actually left the ship. Kate's father may have actually led the charge against Reinhart and Maximillion, but likely didn't have enough of the crew with them to pull it off. Kinda reminds me of that Star Trek Next Generation episode "The Pegasus", where Will Riker, as an ensign fresh out of Starfleet Academy, defended his captain during a mutiny, simply because he was too naive to know better. I tend to notice parallels like that. Especially with shows/movies I love and watch dozens of times. =D

@@IggyStardust1967 I love the idea of interpretation. Not getting a solid answer and allowing our imaginations to run with theories is fun. Now, with the Reinhardt/Max merge theory. I got the impression that Max was in control. I felt like Reinhardt was trapped inside him with zero control. I base that on the horrified look in his eyes as he realizes where he is. Max is a robot, robots don't have souls, so how could it even be in Hell? All apologies to Futurama's Robot Hell and RoboDevil. 😂

I certainly can't disagree with that logic.:-)

Exactly my thought, too. I didn't even question it. And the line was followed by McCrae calling out Reinhardt on his BS.

I don't think Maximilian was ever under Rheinhart's control, it was self aware, a sentient being. He was just playing along to take over everything.

But they bought us Star Wars?? (Sarcasim)

Andor

Give the remake to JJ Abrahms

I would remake this film but this time leaving out the silly robot stuff, which fortunately doesn't take up too much of the film and yet detracts from the film's momentum. We need a diverse cast. The mad scientist should be played by Whoopi Goldberg. Alex should be played by Terrence Howard. Captain Dan by Don Cheadle. Pizer played by Michael Jordan. Kate played by Zendaya. Harry played by Rosie O'Donnell. We leave out the old broken down robot but the voice of VINCENT will be Oprah Winfrey. Director? Michelle Obama. Yes, THAT Michelle Obama. She has been studying film for many years now and is reportedly looking to direct a feature film. This would be perfect for her.

I certainly can't disagree with you there :-)

My favorite was: “A wolf remains a wolf even if it hasn’t eaten your sheep.”

A penny's worth of philosophy right now isn't gonna buy us out of this now, Vincent!"

I just assumed that whatever magic tech the ship used to prevent being sucked into the black hole (some sort of gravity control) also kept the leaked air (from all the holes in the ship!) from flying away into the black hole. I saw it when I was also 9, I just went with it.

I think it was an important line in giving the impression that Max was a danger to everyone. A bully to even his creator. I think it rounded out max’s character a lot.

@@fredwigham1391 Exactly, well said.

And yet Reinhardt was berating Maximillian later on over the sentrys failing to take out the Palomino crew. The man is a practiced liar with a questionable grip on his own sanity. His words cannot be taken at face value.

Haha that's awesome :-) I often do the same thing with the Star Wars theme.

The score is great (the titles music, wow!!)... but does not fit any of the action scenes, AT ALL.

And the opening to The Dark Crystal

That's a really interesting perspective and I think it's spot on 👍

BRILLIANT OBSERVATION!!

I agree. I like both films.

Yes: the only thing good about this stinker was the awesome opening music.

Yes: the only thing good about this stinker was the awesome opening music.

Pretty sure I just heard Neil Degrasse Tyson mention they might be remaking it 😂

Robert Forster died in 2019 and Yvette Mimieux in 2022. Considering the film was made 45 years ago and many cast members were the right age for the role. That's really not bad.

A mixture of a " haunted house " in space with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

Yeah that was a sad moment. Great memories and wonderful special effects.

Maximillian was basically the Frankenstein monster.

Everything you describe is cause to remake the film. Unfortunately, there needs to be serious leadership changes at Disney before they can be trusted with such a project.

I did have a magazine article somewhere years ago about the Cygnus model. It was about 25 feet long, I mean it was big for a model like that. Too bad it got smash up. I think they should do the same with Disney now. Stick it all in a box, drop it, smash it all up, shove it in a dumpster and start all over again from scratch.