Alien Rides hi from Russia. I think the wheels are very small and without air will be very hard for driver. This scooter very good only for smooth road.

@@LuxWheel Hello! Agree that they aren't as comfortable as pneumatic tires, but for a smallish scooter I find it a reasonable ride. I wouldn't want this scooter for off-roading though.

8 to 10in wheel for cracks and such

I think the Zero 8X is probably the best in the "wide wheel" class... but then no one has done a review/comparison with the Dualtron Compact - nudge, nudge.... :-)

Nice scooter very informative.. Can you review the nanrobot D4+2.0 Many thanks

Thanks for stopping by! More scooter reviews coming soon! 👽🖖

Thank you for the feedback and comment! ⚡️💪

Thanks, definitely gotta get up those hills. 👽🖖

Thanks for stopping by! Love San Francisco, great little spot to ride :)

It’s fun for sure. Hope you are enjoying your new ride! ⚡️💪

Awesome, sounds like you are putting it to good use! It’s definitely a good looking scooter!

Thank you for stopping by! That would be a fun challenge, design a scooter able to climb Mt. Everest 😅

Yup, this one or a vsett 9+ would do great on steep hills. 👽🖖

Indeed, we loved testing there in the past. 👽🖖

Thanks! ⚡️💪

I would have thought it would be more powerful going up those hills, with two 500W motors, too...I could do that with a 350 single

Yeah usually there is no problem but some scooters just go up hills better with out much speed loss

@@misterluckyS7even I think the weight of the rider matters.

Yup, you definitely need a strong dual motor scooter. I might recommend the vsett 9+ or 10+, both great dual motor scooters. 👽🖖

I have not had the stem wobble, but I've only put 200-300 miles on it probably. Turning felt fine to me, but maybe on sharp turns you get up on the edge of the wheel so you lose a little bit of traction. Still think this is a great option if you're looking for a lower priced dual motor scooter. The E-twow GT is also a great option, but maybe not as good on hills as this one.

Great tip, thanks for sharing. 👽🖖

Bastian Remedy especially the 720s! I wore them by accident and they do a lot

We don’t wear running shoes in Hawaii, lol

That sounds like a really unfortunate experience. We are proud to have staff to always pick up and answer the phone, I guess you were calling fluidfree ride? They should work on that. 👽🖖

@@AlienRides thank you for responding. I am very sorry that I got you mixed up with someone else. I'll write something nice and delete this and again, thank you for responding. Maybe I will order from you instead then. I was just going to purchase from rev rides but they're out of stock.

It does really well for such a small scooter. It's the cheapest scooter that made it up that hill.

Awesome, congrats on the new purchase, you're going to love it! 👽🖖

Thank you Buddy 👊😎👊

That's awesome, sounds like the ideal life!

Off The Starboard Hull that's awesome!! How do I do that?

Yeah, I suppose wheel diameter to size of this scooter is pretty crazy! Nice little package for sure.

You actually launch off the top of the hill and end up a few blocks away.

I'll see if we can do that! The Speedway V would absolutely rip up the hill no problem because it's even more powerful than the WideWheel, but it would be a fun video to make.

Thanks!! We'll do the Eagle Pro at some point, definitely want to review that one.

Yeah, the dual motor scooters crush hills 👽🖖

Yeah for sure, this was out a long time before the apollo ghost, but the apollo ghost is a great alternative. It is a little bigger though.

had the ghost. flat rear tire every couple months great otherwise but flogged it and no more flats with my ww cle 2020.

It’s steep! You can make it to the top on an EUC, I’ve done it on both my Nikola and monster. I’m searching for a more steep hill now that we’ve conquered this one!

Alien Rides hill climb test: was that on eco or power mode ?

Peacefully Simple I should’ve clarified, it was on power mode.

@@AlienRides Come to my city Amman to see serious steepy hills.. Nice video by the way :)

Beside CA hill, very close to it is the sacramento hills.

I honestly can't remember, maybe look into the vsett 9+ or 10+, great scooters with e-braking. 👽🖖

Hah yeah, Dualtron X would rocket up this hill quickly, not sure at what speed though, I'll have to test it :) Why cabin fever? Bad weather out there now? :(

@@AlienRides Too dang cold to ride with the wind hitting you, even in the high 50s it feels cold, but the 30s would be brutal. Or maybe I'm a col weather wuss...I have started to considered that. lol

Yup, good point about the speed test, we were definitely in ludicrous mode. I think the rider weight and conditions can easily account for a few mph difference. 28 mph is easily doable downhill for example, but not on flat ground for me. Still a good little scooter.

Hey man! Nice excuse to put on the PMTs I guess. I only have experience with them on the Rion, but man are they awesome. Turning is so amazing with them, it feels like you can always go deeper in the turn. I’m still not sure how deep you can really get in a turn with them, but I’m sure I’ll find out one day when I go too far 😬

@@AlienRides yeah I hear what you're saying there more round then the CST's. I'm not pushing it too much either at least right now. Need more time on them. Supposed to rain down here till Saturday night. I'll try to the beach run again Sunday👍✌

EUCs are awesome vehicles for sure, and this year is a great year to get into them. I like to ride everything and will do videos on everything in the future.

Awesome, nice to see you again and thanks for stopping by!

@@AlienRides of course. Always great reviews. I have ridden the boosted rev, but have not ridden this scooter. How does the widewheel pro compare to the boosted rev speed/acceleration wise? Ride comfort wise? And range wise? Which do you like better and why? I think maybe splurging a bit more and going for a zero 8x or mantis base would give you better range/ performance than a wide wheel pro right?

Gregory Patzelt it feels like this scooter has about similar power to the boosted rev, I get about the same top speed on both, 24 mph or so. I think this scooter should do a bit better range wise too. At a lower price, I think the wide wheel wins over the rev.

@@AlienRides where it gets really hard is where to stop your budget as you can spend a bit more and get a zero 8x, mantis, dualtron raptor 2/ the new dualtron eagle, or even a speedway 5. I had the same issue with electric skateboards and ended up buying 4 different level boards lol.

Gregory Patzelt yeah, there’s so much selection that it’s hard to decide when to stop... you can always spend just a few more bills for a faster/longer range ride. But if you can afford it, go big from day 1! 😬

Awesome, you're going to love it!

OneWheela look really fun for off-roading and such. An EUC would also be a great option for long range and fast cruising.

Onewheel is amazing gadget. I regret it zero percent. I have both the XR and pint. But make no mistake, the XR is great for trails, and the pint is amazing for everyday use “locally”. They are not good commuters in my opinion. I can’t imagine a life without my Onewheel but I wouldn’t like to use it as a commuter unless my work was under 4-5 miles

@@sidjtd....I meant Wide Wheel, but yes XR and Pint look amazing. I so want the WideWheel duel motor, retails for about a thousand. If anyone on here owns a duel or single WWheel let me know how you like or dislike. Ty

Good point, I'm about 180 lbs.

Nice, yeah it's hard to beat the e-twow for portability, it's super light. Not as good as a hill climber, but a really good option.

Interesting thoughts! I'm not sure about adding negatives to make a positive, but I think many manufacturers have tried that!

The Dualtron Thunder is a beast and will rocket up steep hills. Maybe not at 50, but 25-35 mph depending on grade. I've got a Thunder and will try to do some hill climb videos in the future. You're going to love your scooter!

Nice. Hope it's treating you well, I just know there were a few issues with the brakes and stuff on that model.

You must be lighter weight than him?

That’s a good question, I feel that the Speedway V suspension might be a bit more stiff, but overall might be more smooth thanks to the pneumatic tires.

Thanks for stopping by, love testing scooters. 👽🖖

Yeah, it would be interesting to see if it can! Maybe I’ll reach out and ask for a cruiser review unit.

@@AlienRides i was just going to ask you about this one. Please review it.

Yeah getting a scooter is dangerous because there's always a faster or bigger one to get 😅 I think the WideWheel pro could be a good option for you, great power for the price.

So I'm actually not sure. There's different speed modes though and the throttle curve is controllable so you should be fine!

@@AlienRides Thanks for the answer! The fact is that in Italy electric scooter to be allowed to go in public streets must have a 500w motor so I fear I could have some issue with it, that's why I was asking.. Thanks anyway!

Thanks as always! 😁

Thanks for stopping by, definitely going to be doing more hill climb tests in the future.

Alien Rides Does it have Single and dual Motor Switch? Or it always run on dual motor?

@@jielyel I believe this one is always dual motor, but it's totally manageable!

This one is a pretty solid choice for conquering hills! Definitely get a dual motor scooter whatever you choose.

thankyou foe the feed back that's good for me .

Awesome. it's a really great scooter, you're going to love it! 👽🖖

@@AlienRides ✔👍💖

If you can pay the price l, then definitely. Except for speed though, that goes to Rion 😎

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It's certainly a good looking scooter. Awesome that you got an EUC, they're great machines.

EUC?? Please Elaborate

@@coolshariq Electric UniCycle

Do EUC go up hills ok?

Have tried a bunch of different scooters up this hill, really just need powerful motors to make it up, about 800 watts each conquers the hill nicely.

I haven't yet, but I just got the emove cruiser, so I'm expecting to do that test in the next few weeks!

Hah, awesome! Thanks for stopping by!

Generally downhill doesn't put that much work on the motors so its totally fine to go much faster. 👽🖖

Haha, my life goal is to be as ridiculous as possible

@@AlienRides haha fair enough! ...at least your vid was awesome! well done!!!

Always fun to know about cool places to ride. Hope to check it out some day! 👽🖖

Yeah the Mantis is awesome, and it's cool that you don't have a problem bringing it bart. Thanks for the tip on the hill, ideally a long and steep hill would be ideal. Or maybe I can test on a mountain like Mt Tam or something 🤔

@@AlienRides I did a lot of mountain biking back in the day on and around Tam. I don't recall super steep roads. They had to make sure people could traverse most roads under normal human power bicycles. The Potrero hill streets have some length to them and definitely have the steepness. Another thing you should show is the ability to safely go down those hills. I would never want to go down with anything that didn't have dual disc brakes :)

It did indeed, it's a solid scooter.

Basically yeah, it's a solid scooter as long as you like solid tires. 👽🖖

Sounds like great advice, thanks for sharing. 👽🖖

I got the same and alittle ludicrous rash to prove it.no more flats.

Yeah, I believe I had both of those set when making this video. It’s definitely a fun little scooter for sure!

Alien Rides got mine from Apollo (Canada) got the upgraded throttle too it came with key also. I too have the throttle lag problem, hope they’ll have some kind of control box upgrade. Also batteries are Chinese hope they last. I live in Brooklyn NY, government recently legalized e scooters here. Helps so much with short commute and groceries))) Thanks to your video i was able to make up my mind ! Thank you very much!!!

@@Star_Dust___ Awesome. I'm glad you got yourself a new scooter, and the legalization is really great news as well. Cheers and ride safe!

That's a good question, I think it's this one by a bit, since it's got two motors. 👽🖖

I think it would perform about the same. Good point though, I should try it!

battery would die before he got to the top lol jk

Awesome, glad it's working out well for you and yeah - definitely not great for off-road.

Thanks for the request, I’ll try to find time to film that. I can assure you it conquers most hills with ease though!

Awesome choice on the Dualtron 2, great scooter for sure and I hope you have a lot of fun on it! Ride safe!

Alien Rides thanks kev. ja, thats an very nice Machine. Next stop... Rion 😍. And yes i ride it with a shoei helmet and Fox gloves

I'm using the Skydio 2 for most of my videos these days. It's so much fun to shoot with it! The way it follows you, it's like magic.

@@AlienRides they are on backorder and won't be shipped till Oct 20...must be a prized possession??? wow!! I want both scooter and Skydio 2 now. thanks for the review, best one yet!!!

Looks like it's about ~1.3k USD. Not cheap, but a pretty good price for a dual motor scooter IMO.

@@AlienRides right on thanks bro I appreciate your reply as always! Update** so my fixed position es4 is holding up great had it hacked to do 20mph and soldered the fuse that always blows and it's great accept it's slow and no rear suspension haaa. Need something way faster and suspension would be sweet! That hill you climbed on that wide wheel was impressive and the what 35 MPH all for 1100.00 sounds like my next scoot before I drive into a Rion... If you ever come to Utah lmk we can hit some epic riding up in Park City Utah!! Would be awesome content for your channel!!

I think it is a pretty good scooter, but it is a bit jerky. You are a bit heavier, so something like the apollo ghost or kaabo mantis might be a better choice for you. :alienRides:

Thanks for stopping by! I haven't tried the Zero 9 yet myself, but it actually looks cheaper. (Even more so with the "alienrides" discount on revrides.com.) It also only sports a single motor, so you aren't going to have as much power, but it is more lightweight. Overall it seems like it could be a solid commuter option.

I like it, let's call it that, but then it gets hard to think of a name for a bigger conqueror 🤔

I think the WideWheel does a bit better, possibly just it’s a bit beefier. The E-Twow is certainly more portable though.

There is a speed mode, the apollo guys did a good video of enabling it, I think they talk about cruise control also: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLmCksRqz92sh30.html For my test, the speed setting was maxed.

@@AlienRides you only got 24mph on ludicrous mode? or you didnt have ludicrous mode on?

JordanNOFX 24mph on ludicrous mode :)

Scooters are really awesome for sure, but I'm not sure about fitting it on your motorcycle. I do think that a onewheel could get you around most trips around town, but personally I'd actually recommend an electric unicycle. Probably the most power in a small package you can find. What do you think about the EUCs? Bit of a learning curve, but we can help.

Come visit sometime and come for a ride!

Yeah, that's an awesome idea. Would be great to be able to measure both the battery and motor temperature. I'll have to see how we can do this in the future!

Thanks! I weight about 185 or so, maybe another 10 lbs with the backpack.

Alien Rides ok thank you for the info appreciate it

Zero additional speed, but infinite additional cool factor

@@AlienRides HAHAHAHA love it bro, keep up the good work ❤️

Awesome, I think this was the 1600, but not sure. The scooter addiction is real. 👽🖖

@@AlienRides it really is i need to calm down have my eye on another 2 but thet serious cash because of brand name , but what I want my design, arhhhh I have weed a addiction , drink addiction, now a scooter addiction am much more happy with this new addiction of mine. i will stop some day roughly this year or next . the other 2 scoooters i have am happy with they have decent power and nice range , happy scooting bro stay safe................................ ps i had to edit this just seen this now a year later when repy i was drunk my grammar was so ba for that would like to apologise for my actions am smart man respecful , the way i wrote made me look look really stupid and made me look like a real drunk or something i am not. i manged to get me 2 , 2400w eclectic scooters . 45mph , 52v 18ah battery 35 miles range really happy i paid 2000.00 for both of them am really happy with the deal i got have 60-70 miles range in total on full charge using both now thats crazy good. k safe am gone #UK

It's a bit hard to customize e-scooters, especially the handlebars, but doable if you are handy. Best place to start might be bike accessories. You can attach most to the handlebars.

Yeah, I think it definitely would. You can also rent it from us if you're interested in testing it out. pev.works

That's unfortunate about the handlebars. Mine felt ok, but I only rode this scooter for a few days so far. I did notice that the handlebar locking mechanism didn't feel the most sturdy when you unfold them. I sort of looked at them and said, "that's it?". No issues with the short period of time I rode it for though. Still dreaming and being antsy about the SSR 🤤.

@@AlienRides That's exactly what we thought as well.Hhhmmm not much to how these handlebars lock into position.Whatsapp 16043150682,let's chat SSR

Hell yeah! But I’m not a big fan of it on EUCs 😬

Yeah, good point. The airless tires does make it a bit more slippery on rain, but it is totally doable. Just need to be careful when turning and accelerating for the most part. It's generally a good idea to not ride scooters in downpour conditions, but a light drizzle should be fine.

@@AlienRides In that case I'll probably go with this scooter because a bit of extra care in wet conditions in return for never having to worry about flats seems like a fair trade off to me. Thanks so much for your reply.

@@jonmaze793 sold my ghost bot ww cle and never looked back.

Good questions, I haven't tried the pacer, but at a glance it seems that the WideWheel will have higher torque due to two motors and be able to climb hills better, while the pacer might have a bit of a higher top speed. The pacer would have air-fillted tires, making it more of a smooth ride compared to the WideWheel. Both seem like they could be great scooters.

Thanks for stopping by! You definitely get more range in eco mode compared to turbo, especially if you ride it slower. I haven't ridden this extensively in eco mode, as I max out all of my scooters. I typically just say to take the advertised range and cut it in half.

The advertised range is in "no-rider" situation. In other words, it is in "idle speed" situation with e-scooter sitting high on the bar stool without wheels touching the floor till the end of juice from battery.

Thank you for the suggestion! :) I think the Pro has some nice improvements over the normal one for sure. Definitely a nice little scooter.

Me too 🙋🏻‍♂️

I'm right at 6' tall, and maybe was about 200 lbs for this video.

@@AlienRides Thanks for reply. Then it did rather well, and since I'm no smaller than that myself it's good to know it can handle it ^^