I've been using this set up for a few months now. Listening with Tidal high def enjoying my music more than ever.

Awesome! I'm really rediscovering my music since picking up this set up. By the way, I heart radio does high definition streams for free.

@@cashwise7614 Cheers!

Your welcome. Glad you found my video helpful. Happy listening!!

Interesting setup and as you said at a great price. I find it hard to believe that One of the low-cost stereo amps would have better sound than the denon AV receiver, but it would be interesting to test it. Now you need to get some floor standing speakers to hear that dac really shine.

@@cashwise7614 confession: I’ve already “upgraded” to a pair of V3 Mono amps from the original V3 I got last year. There was a slight change in the sound, it feels a bit “bigger” now, but I’m not a serious enough listener to really quantify the difference. I just like the idea of monoblock amps. Guilty! I’m not suggesting a budget class-D amp (or amps) would be an upgrade over your current setup, but given your channel name and your recent look at (and positive impression of) two of the most popular high-value low-dollar “audiophile” products on the market right now, plugging a V3 or similar budget amp into your system would be an interesting exercise. If anything, it would take up less space! One of the things I’ve heard fairly consistently about the V3 vs. V3 Mono is that the Mono has improved control in the bass region. Nobody seems to talk about Damping Factor anymore, that was a thing with Class AB amps back in my car audio days, but perhaps that’s a factor with the Monos? Just a guess. I have a HT setup with Energy RC-50 mains, RC-10 surrounds, and an RC-LCR center. I’m thinking about hooking the RC-50s up to my desktop setup just to see how they do. They’re not big towers by yesteryear standards, but they have two 5” woofers in vented floor standing cabinets. The tweeter in the full-size RCs is something they were really noted for back in the day, so I’m very curious how they’ll sound. Who knows… maybe the RC-10 bookshelves will end up crowding my desktop! lol. Thanks for your feedback.

@@superspeeder yes I should test one of those amps hi def streaming with good speakers has the most impact on the sound. but you can get 95% audiophile Soud without spending a fortune. When I was listening thu my alexa connected to the same amp and speakers the sound which I thought was good was muddy and bland compared to listening to a high def feed with my wiim and Dac with the same amp and speakers.

@@cashwise7614 looking forward to your future audio endeavours! 👍

I have to take your word on that. In my setup the deck is connected to my streamer and then to my receiver and the volume on the receiver works. I can also adjust the volume on the Wii mini app of the output. But I honestly have not tried hooking to my computer.

@@cashwise7614 No worries. It is only when connecting to the USB input from a computer that the problem becomes apparent. When you plug a device into a USB port, there's a bunch of back and forth about "what can you do" and "here's what I need" that takes place. The computer then has the task of finding and installing a suitable driver for the device. In the case of USB Audio, there are two defined classes UAC1 and UAC2. In UAC1 a DAC is expected to handle PCM speeds up to 96k samples per second and 24 bit sample sizes. In UAC2 that range is open-endedly expanded beyond 384ksps and 32bits, so it is far more capable. Obviously this takes two different sets of drivers. Now comes the part people don't get ... in both UAC classes, the "volume mixer" that lets you set relative levels for each of your devices exists in software inside the operating system. BUT (and it's a big "BUT") the Master Volume that controls everything is in the DAC itself, to control it's final output to an amplifier. That slider on your screen and the buttons on your keyboard (as well as remote controls, and audio interfaces) actually manipulate the Master Volume, not the system's internal mixer. That is... they are turning the DAC itself up and down. In the SU-1 and PS200 (and probably other SMSL DACs too) they have not implemented the DAC's Master Volume control and simply left it at maximum output. Leaving you with no control over how loud things get. (And FWIW I found this out the hard way. Any idea how loud that little "Test" button on Windows Sound applet is through a 140 watt per channel system?? ... I darned near crapped myself!) The reason I brought this up is that the most common use-case for these nice little DACs is in PC fed home theatre stereos and desktop audio setups, so it is likely that some of your viewers will run into this problem.

@@Douglas_Blake_579 good information

I agree

SU1. So noisy compared with wiim pro plus.

Glad you found my video helpful. I was playing through an alexa dot directly to my receiver. I was skeptical as to whether I would hear much difference but I will tell you on the high def streams it definitely sounds better to my ear. No going back for me.

@@cashwise7614 I just picked up the SMSL SU-1 DAC and the WIIM mini. Couldnt be more happy. With no DAC, the music has a very narrow sound stage. With the SMSL DAC, the sound stage is wider and each instrument comes through to my ears rather than bunched up together. Good bang for the buck !

Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. My question is how does it connect to the dac? via Bluetooth? If so, that would probably degrade the sound quality some.

@@cashwise7614 no, Bluetooth would kill all purpose and sound much inferior. I use an HDMI audio extractor with an optical out, and connect this to the dac's optical input. There should be no loss in the digital signal quality.

Thanks for your comments and subscribing. When I bought the Wii mini and SMSL DAC I wasn't even sure if it would improve my sound. I have been pleasantly surprised and I'm really enjoying listening to music through this setup. There are a lot of other great dacs out there but this one has been reviewed by many to be the best at the price point. You might be interested in this video from cheapaudio man he compares quite a few. I still have a hard time buying a dac that costs more than my entire sound system but definitely would like to test a few more probably mid-ranged dacs Maybe if my channel gets big enough I can get some vendors to let me test their equipment. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtODg8VmrLTPaWw.htmlsi=7sWgIBskCw_8NEeZ

That's another good option and eliminates a little of the complexity. However, most online reviewers including one I trust cheapaudioman. are finding that the smsl DAC is superior to the inbuilt dac in the Wii mini pro. I have not done a test comparison as they have but I am happy with the sound of the smsl1. And 60 bucks is 60 bucks.

@@cashwise7614 The SU-1 has the same DAC chip as the Pro.

@@cashwise7614 The SMSL SU-1 uses the AKM 4493S dac chip. The Wiim Pro PLUS has an AKM 4493SEQ chip which is an improvement over the Wiim Pro’s (and Mini’s) dac. Not sure if there is a difference with the 4493S vs SEQ though.

@@jp93309 this video compares The WiiM pro plus vs j2 dac vs SMSL dac. He picks the J2 but also calls the SMSL an improvement over the dac in the pro plus, and the best bang for the buck in another of his videos. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9mWZshoz9e1iIE.htmlsi=2RVLLOMyvDH8ev_7

Totally agree with you. They bought a cheap and cheaper dac…😂😂

That Marantz amp has good reviews. Probably not a bad purchase. With my Denon amp, I only heard a bit of difference between the Built-In DAC in the WiiM mini and the su1 but it was better enough that I decided to keep it. Hopefully someone will respond. That's tried that combination you're asking about.

By the way, I've been considering getting a bt20 just to test it. based on the reviews, it's supposed to have great sound for the price. Thanks for giving your experience with it.

Connect your optical out from your wiim mini to the back of the smsl Su1 optical in. Then RCA left and right jacks from the SML su1 to the back of your Fosse amp.

I believe you can, but what is your music source? Are you already sending a high def stream to the speakers?

@@cashwise7614 Hi mate, I'm using xiaomi mibox S as source. It has aux and usb output and connected to aux port.

Sorry I'm honestly not sure. Normally you would go optical out to your DAC and then DAC to powered speakers or receiver via aux. You may be able to run it through the USB port but not 100% sure. Most importantly, I would just try to make sure that you're getting high definition streams to the speakers. ,1400kbps or more. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.