A trick : you can watch movies on flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies recently.

@Hank Javion Definitely, I've been using Flixzone} for months myself :D

Hey! I know you are correct, but where in scripture can i find this to use if anyone has the same response to me?

@@jacobm9961 Romans 3:8, Romans 6:15

@@johndodson8464 thank you!!

True faith is absolutely a commitment to serve "for you were bought with a price." (1 Cor 6:20) I guess only some of us will get to hear these blessed words: ‘Well done, good and faithful *_servant._* You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ (Matthew 25:23) Here's some more Scripture: "Only fear the Lord and *_serve him faithfully_* with all your heart. For consider what great things he has done for you. " 1 Samuel 12:24 "Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are *_serving the Lord Christ."_* Col 3:23-24 "Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always *_abounding in the work of the Lord,_* knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain. " 1 Corinthians 15:58 "Then once more you shall see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between *_one who serves God_* and one who does not serve him. " Malachi 3:18

@Jory Folker "and none of those verses is followed with" So? Does that magically make the verse itself disappear? I never said anything about wanting to be "rewarded" what I did was to correct the OP by quoting the Bible in regards to serving God.

@Jory Folker Sigh. First of all, the OP never said anything about salvation or rewards that's just you interjecting. They talked falsely about faith in relation to serving, and I corrected them by quoting the Bible. Secondly, my main beef with the OSAS crowd is that you get so hype about "faith alone" that you dismiss serving and living righteously. You just start shrieking "It's not required for salvation" as if that somehow magically negates the fact that we have to work. We are not saved *_BY_* work, rather we are saved *_FOR_* work. "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:10 "I can reasonably infer from your tone that you see yourself as the vineyard worker who did a full day and got the same pay" Well your intuition and discernment are totally wack, because I grew up atheist and literally just became a Christian less than a year ago. And now that I'm here I'm looking at some of the "vineyard workers" laying around like a bunch of lazy asses, telling me "hey, once hired always hired! We don't have to work!" Imagine if you started a new job and the employees actually acted like that! What total irreverence and disrespect!! I much prefer David's attitude: "I delight to do your will, O my God; your law is within my heart." Psalm 40:8 "what makes you think you're serving God well enough to be saved" Seriously? I have faith, therefor I serve. What is so hard to understand about that?

@Jory Folker Wow that was incredibly rude, and irrelevant to anything I said. 1) Seriously???? Who are you talking to???? I explicitly told you already that we not not saved *_BY_* works, we are saved *_FOR_* works. Is there some reason you pretended like I didn't say that??? This is when o.s.a.s becomes a heresy - someone tells you that a Christian life means service and you respond by shrieking that we aren't saved by works, as if that is somehow an acceptable excuse to avoid your service! If God isn't ready for us in heaven yet, it means He still has work for us to do here. Period. Our life on this earth is not a fantasy vacation. We are here to serve. We either serve sin or we serve God. If you refuse to serve God guess who you are serving??? It's not rocket science. Not only that but you then completely abused that verse from Isaiah, which does *_NOT_* say that good works are filthy rags to God!! What it says is that the good works of the people have been made filthy *_BY THEIR SINS._* It is not in any way implying that God doesn't want us to do good works!! Is this the attitude you have at your actual day job? Looking for any and every excuse to avoid the work you are given?? I feel sorry for your boss. This is why communism fails miserably, because of people like you who refuse to do any work at all unless there is some selfish gain to be had from it. 3) You have the audacity to say that I am "too stupid to understand English" even though your entire comment is nothing but putting words in my mouth so you can fight against a strawman instead of dealing with what I'm actually telling you. Case in point: "You believe everyone here who disagrees with you is unsaved" is *_NOT SOMETHING I'VE EVER SAID._* 4) a) No I'm offended that some people abuse God's grace by teaching that faith doesn't include service b) That's not a coherent sentence, and it doesn't have anything to do with anything I've said anyways. "the fact that you want people to go to Hell " Is *_NOT SOMETHING I'VE EVER SAID!_* You're just making false accusations so you can avoid what I actually said. "to warn you that you need to get saved" Aw, how cute, you're gonna end your emotional tirade with a pretense of caring about me, but which is really just a mean little passive aggressive jab because you can't handle being challenged to serve. Wow! You're sooooo loving. LOL!!!

So your faith does not have to continue? There are those who lovw christ and struggle everyday and are and will be transformed or wont gwt the chance. I believe in the parable of the sower. The thing about the sower is he chose where to toss the seeds., those that are in christ will have fruits throughout there lives of the homy spirit which one of those is faith. The way i look at it is a heart thing.

Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. Ephesians 1:13-14, and Ephesians 4:30. Once we believe, we have everlasting life. Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him who justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. His imputed righteousness. Romans 4:6. Romans 3:26-28 Since we did nothing for the GIFT of eternal life, we have nothing to boast in. Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. You can not boast in free. It is to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16 John 1:12 John 6:40

"For the time is coming when people will not *_endure_* sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings"

@John D. Dodson How about this one. I believe that . . . God is just and loving, and I believe that God has gracefully offered forgiveness, and salvation though faith . . and I would never be so presumptuous or arrogant as to take my salvation for granted. I intend to "work out my salvation with fear and trembling" as the bible instructs. Whether you think "performance" is part of salvation or not, if you are not seeking righteousness with fear of God, you're missing the point entirely. We are born into slavery to sin. Jesus died so that we could be yoked to Him instead. His burden is light, and we can overcome our sins with His help. But it's still a burden. We still have to put in effort. We can't just go limp and expect to be dragged along, and that's super disrespectful even if Jesus is willing to do that. Just because faith alone is what saves doesn't mean for a single second that you get to downplay good works. "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

@@theTavis01 the problem with what you are saying is that you are assuming, just like they did with Paul, that the free grace position means "lets do whatever we want and sin as much as we want" God forbid. Work out your salvation is an awesome verse that is linked with psalms. Psalm 2:11 King James Version (KJV) 11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. No one is saying that you can do whatever you want and not have consequences in this life and the one to come. What we are saying is that you cannot merit salvation at any point of your life or keep it at all it is all the work of God and from the place of security which Jesus himself preached when he says him who believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life we can come to God boldly to the throne of grace so that we may be transformed in His image. My personal experience is I had many sins that I was hiding and it wasn't until I understood Grace that I was freed from alot of them and the understanding that I am complete in Jesus just as Colossians says and in him you are complete is that all the sins just fell off and lost interest little by little because we don't have to work for righteousness rather we rest in his righteousness and we can come to him freely and honestly and then God can really show us our true sin nature when we don't lie to ourselves and come into to the light as we are and confess instead of hide our sin. You cannot and will not work for salvation rather we stand in His grace Free grace is actually in Pauls writing.... ◄ Romans 3:24 ► Parallel Verses King James Version Being justified "freely by his grace" through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: How much clearer can it be? Freely by His grace. The way God does it is by having you grow in that truth into maturity. We are indeed complete in Jesus.

N.T. WRIGHT specifically taught that. Works salvation 100%

Me too.

I was confused for many years by teachers. I thank God for teachers like Zane Hodges, and Bob Wilkin who teach that we need to do exactly what Jesus asked people to do. Check out www.faithalone.org for more resources like this video.

But, that is not what he was talking about. He was talking about the faith in Jesus for the free gift of everlasting life which is totally apart from works. Faith that is not alone, does not save, in terms of being born again. See John 3:16. No works needed.

Yos Sar what does Brown believe? He is not a calvinist

I would love to see Michael Brown stop endorsing Bill Johnson.

Thanks! Yours is the kind of comment that makes all the work worthwhile. I am not sure what you mean by confusion about sin. It seems people are confused about just about everything in the Bible these days.

dreiher2 welcome...I mean deliberate sins, sins of ignorance, intentional v. unintentional...that gets confusing to me really fast. Probably just haven't been explained well.

I think that it is important to keep in mind the fact that Jesus paid the penalty for all sins, of both believers, and unbelievers at the cross. It does not matter what kind of sin it is, we just need to confess it (1 John 1:9) and then move on while maintaining a harmonious fellowship with Him as much as we can. The whole concept of "Walking in the light" in 1 John 1:7 is talking about this kind of fellowship. In other words, when we respond properly to the light of God's word, we are being continually cleansed as we walk. When we stop responding to the light, then we are out of fellowship. and we need to get back to walking in the light again, by doing what 1 John 1:9 says to do. I would strongly suggest getting Zane Hodges' commentary on 1 John from the faithalone.org website. He does a great job of describing this fellowship.

dreiher2 Got it...thanks! :)

Jockamoli Read: 1 Corinthians 3: 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. Mr. Wilkin says this as well, yet not as fully explicit, and if you are not listening you will miss it.

Go to faithalone.org/radio and scroll through and listen to the shows on faith and works and assurance too. Then go to kzfaq.info and click on videos and scroll to the bottom for some of the first videos done by Bob. They are very short, and there are some good ones. Maybe find one or two of the best ones and send them to those.

works are always the RESULT of faith, though most definitely not part of the DEFINITION.

I’ve heard Bob address this question in other videos. He makes the point that we believe (anything really) when we are convinced of the evidence for it. So it’s not really a choice. We can’t really decide to believe anything we want to. But we can decide to investigate, pray, and search the evidence God has given to us (creation, the Bible, etc) and become convince His promise of everlasting life is true. And I’m doing so we know we are eternally secure.

Romans 11:6 King James Version 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Romans 4:4-7 English Standard Version (ESV) 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in[a] him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: 7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; Believe does not equal work "And to the one who does not work but believes in[a] him who justifies the ungodly, " Believe is in opposition to work for salvation To obey equals to believe the gospel not work the gospel … through whom we have received grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name. … and by the prophetic Scriptures [the mystery] has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith. When you realise you cannot save yourself at all and believe on God who justifies the ungodly and not the godly through the complete and not lacking work of Christ you have eternal life and will never come into condemnation because He is faithful who calls you.

Faith Alive How do you obey the gospel?

@@1920s To believe in the blood of Christ for the remission of sins plus nothing.

The Bible defines faith and works as being mutually exclusive. If you add faith to works it’s no longer faith.

Of course. The belief in the extent of Spiritual gifts is not a key part of Free Grace discussion. I would say that if you believe a person can lose their salvation, or that a person has to speak in tongues if they are saved, you will have a big problem.

I am aware of Calvinism's teachings. I grew up in a Baptist Church that lurched into 5 point Calvinism when I was a teen. I am glad that you stopped by here! Perhaps you can tell me exactly what you are talking about in this video. Bob does NOT teach that saving faith is a decision. It is not the will of God in that he is not willing any should perish by not believing, but it is up to men to be open to God's word so that "Faith comes by hearing." It is passive and just happens when we are convinced of His saving content in verses like John 3:16,17 and John 6:47. Thanks again for stopping by. You are the reason I post these videos. It does no good to have only people who agree listen.

Yes they teach this false spilt kingdom theology. Sadly.

He's saying there is a loss of rewards, not a loss of salvation. This does not contradict what he is saying at all. Believers will receive judgment for what they have done in furthering the kingdom (after salvation), and based on those things that are worthy of reward, determines the reward given. Hope that helps.

Jesus Paid It All Read: 1 Corinthians 3: 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. Mr. Wilkin says this as well, yet not as fully explicit, and if you are not listening you will miss it. He is right as the bible and Christ is.

​@@ItsBradCrawford Eternal life is the reward. It is not separate from salvation. Are you saying that a blatant sinner will inherit eternal life just because 35 years ago they had a flickering moment of faith in Jesus???

@@theTavis01 Can you deny that we are all "blatant sinners"? The "moment of faith" will be something judged by God, not by you, me, or anyone else. This is why it is an issue of the heart, and not defined by the actions of the individual, nor the outer viewpoint of fellow believers. Because of this, there's really no way for me to answer your question based on the answer you seek, but I can point out that in reading the comment by @Renneth Jarrett above, you can get some part of your answer. The only thing I would dare to add to this is based solely on what scripture states constantly throughout, and it's found in 2 Timothy 2:13: "If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself." We don't receive salvation based on where we are spiritually, what we do, or even who we act like are in any moment of any day. We are covered by the blood of Jesus Christ, which covers who WE are...period. When God views me from that point forward, he doesn't see Brad Crawford or Bill Travis, but instead sees Jesus. Does this mean I should continue to blatantly sin? No. Will I continue to sin? Yes, otherwise, what need do I have for my Savior? But, praise God, I am continually washed in His life-saving blood, and even through my continual failure to remain truly "faithful", I can rest in His grace, knowing that He remains faithful, even when I drop the ball.

Rich Mattisson absolutely. Christianity is not a religion. That's why I tell people I simply have faith in God and Christ also (Jesus's exact command for us) and that I'm NOT of the "Christian Right." Always good to say that to people so they'll trust you and not see you as a religious right wing wacko :)

Trust can have a range of meanings. Some of which include works. So if you decide to use trust make sure to specifically explain that it’s trusting is Jesus for His promise of eternal life.

What did Jesus say a person has to do to get everlasting life? It seems pretty clear to me, from John 3:16, John 5:24, 6:47, 11:25,26 etc. There is no mention about a changed life being necessary. Hebrews 11 is not talking about the faith you need to have to get everlasting life. It is talking about a working faith that leads to spiritual growth and rewards for those who are already born again and 100% assured of their eternal security apart from works good or bad. You have to believe you are eternally secure at the moment of being born again, or else you have not believed Jesus' promise, and are still heading for the lake of fire. Assurance is of the essence of faith that brings everlasting life. That is what Jesus taught.

@@dreiher2 I have to disagree, Hebrews 11 gives us examples of what true faith looks like in practice. That does not mean it is an exhaustive list, just that they are great examples of how true, saving faith changes how a person lives. Your position really runs into problems when you come to Revelation 14:11-12 “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” 12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Do you see that, here true saving faith keeps saints from an action, namely taking the mark of the Beast. But your idea of faith does not really leave room for a requirement such as this for the end time saints...

Lol they do believe in one God because they know that one God is going to put them in hell. Unfortunately, that verse doesn't mean what you're trying to get it to mean sorry:/ demons do not believe in Jesus Christ for eternal life. That's the distinction

@@jerrymann20 amen

No. We teach our of the Donald Trump Bible. Haha.

I am not sure I would agree. Is a person born again by believing in Jesus for everlasting life, that can never be lost, or is that inadequate? I can testify that for years I "trusted" in Jesus for salvation, but I was based upon my active trust. It was not by a one moment in time intellectually being convinced of Jesus' ability to give me everlasting life which could never by lost. Nobody ever explained to me that a person cannot get eternal life by active trust but by just by one moment in time persuasion. Believe more accurately explains that one moment in time intellectual persuasion. Trust can introduce ambiguity, like believe is not enough, you actually have to have two steps, believe and then TRUST. I uploaded some videos from Zane Hodges entitled "Faith in Christ." Listen to part1 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7iIbLRn3djSfJs.html and more importantly part2 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9tdmdyq2LHMYoU.html

@@dreiher2 Well, Gordon Clark properly explains that faith has TWO MEANINGS. 1) The mental act, and 2) the proposition believed, aka the OBJECT of faith. The mental act is understanding + assent. No other psychological gymnastics required. Whether i believe that i have 10 toes, or i believe that i'm going to die, the definition DOESN'T CHANGE. It's ALWAYS understanding + assent. What changes is the object believed. Clark's Faith and Saving Faith has the correct doctrine. Both MacArthur AND Zane Hodges are off.

@@dreiher2 Yes, the will is definitely passive and the proposition believed is unconditional. But you must believe the proposition "Jesus saved ME." You cannot simply believe that "Jesus saved SOME PEOPLE." Notice: these are different OBJECTS believed, not different mental acts.

@@dreiher2 Understanding + Assent. This is the definition of faith, the mental act. This is regardless of the object. Anything added to this definition violates sola fide.

Believing who Jesus is does not save us. There are lots of people who believe who Jesus is, but who think they have to do works to get to heaven (i.e. John Piper). In evangelism, you have to give people enough information to believe that Jesus is the sufficient grantor and guarantor of everlasting life for everyone who believes Him for that. The amount of information needed to get a particular person to that point will differ from person to person. Zane Hodges used to say you need to give them as much information about Jesus' person and work, until they are intellectually persuaded of His promise. At that point, they have enough.

@@dreiher2 I should have phrased it better. Can one just believe in a guy named Jesus and be saved or do they have to believe in the death burial and resurrection of the Son of God?

@@gregorylatta8159 A person has to have enough information to be intellectually persuaded that Jesus is the grantor and guarantor of everlasting life which can never be lost, and believe it is true for them. It varies in one on one evangelism as to how much information you have to give. it would be very strange to evangelize someone without emphasizing His death and resurrection. Zane had a series of 2 messages in 2000 (Faith in Christ, content and deliversy) where were twisted and greatly misunderstood to be teaching we must NEVER tell people who Jesus was. The following year, 2001 he gave a message "The Spirit of Antichrist," which Zane's opponents ignored, where he pointed out that we must believe in the historical Jesus of the Bible. Here is the link. It is on my channel kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLilbJVkzd_Md3k.html

+bob78145 Bob, research justification by faith apart from any works of our own. It is the FINISHED work of Christ and His righteousness. Not ours. Ephesians 2:8,9. Willful sin here is not "keep on sinning". The context started in Hebrews 10:23 where the author admonishes them to "hold fast the confession" suggesting that he was concerned they might not do that. Plus the adverb willfully (hekousios) suggest a connection to "willful sin" in the OT. Also known as "sin of the high hand" (Numbers 15:30-31). This was a serious violation of the law done with absolute intention, a purposeful transgression. The author in Hebrews is not alluding to those who "keep on sinning" but a particular sin. All born again believers continue to sin in thought, word, or deed until we shed this body of death.

Are you superstitious?

I think Bob admitted that his (2nd) view that babies will be resurrected in the Millennium so they can either believe or not believe had some problems. The view that all babies who die go to heaven has problems too, for instance, exactly when a person reaches "the age of accountability." It is not absolutely certain from Scripture. That is what Bob was referring to as not being absolutely certain. Here is the only passage that specifically talks about the death of an infant: David's Response to His Son's Sickness and Death (2 Samuel 12:15b-23) Then the LORD struck the child that Uriah's widow bore to David, so that he was very sick. 16 David therefore inquired of God for the child; and David fasted and went and lay all night on the ground. 17 The elders of his household stood beside him in order to raise him up from the ground, but he was unwilling and would not eat food with them. 18 Then it happened on the seventh day that the child died. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they said, “Behold, while the child was still alive, we spoke to him and he did not listen to our voice. How then can we tell him that the child is dead, since he might do himself harm!” 19 But when David saw that his servants were whispering together, David perceived that the child was dead; so David said to his servants, “Is the child dead?” And they said, “He is dead.” 20 So David arose from the ground, washed, anointed himself, and changed his clothes; and he came into the house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he came to his own house, and when he requested, they set food before him and he ate. 21 Then his servants said to him, “What is this thing that you have done? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept; but when the child died, you arose and ate food.” 22 He said, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, 'Who knows, the LORD may be gracious to me, that the child may live.' 23 “But now he has died; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.” Remember that in the Old Testament they did not have a very well developed theology of what happens when a person died. A common view is that David is referring to the what the Old Testament called Sheol, which is commonly referring to the place of the dead. Of course believing Old Testament Jews understood that Sheol meant much more than the just the grave! They understood there was a place called "Abraham's bosom" where saved unbelievers went. It is very likely (but not 100% certain from Scripture) that this was what David was referring to. I hold to this view. I think the Reformed/Lordship view has a lot of problems with the death of infants. They would hold that some infants are elect and that some are not and Jesus died only for the sins of the elect. The Free Grace camp holds that Jesus took away the sins of the entire world (including infants who died). Either way, I am not sure we should base our fellowship around this issue. There is room for disagreement among believers. Remember, this was a question that was asked when the floor was open for questions. It was not a major point of Bob's message.

@@dreiher2 common sense dictates the age of accountability, there is no way God who is love, will hold a human accountable that has no idea he even exists, Gods character tells me as much.

@@frame3139 I think that both Bob and I agree with you that Biblically, God does not hold creatures responsible to do what they cannot do. However, it is dangerous to put too much weight on common sense.

@@frame3139 The bible teaches that God punishes children for their parent's sins. "I punish children for their parents' sins-even to the third and fourth generation". I also know this first hand, I have suffered for a long time because of the sins of my parents and their parents before them.

Marry also called Joseph Jesus's father but we know that's not the case. David is not God and was speaking of his opinion, not of doctrine. If infants are saved, then 99.99999% of people going to heaven are those that got in via a loop hole and then that would god a liar when he said there is no salvation under any other name under which we are called to be saved. As the infants did not call upon any name to be saved.

Cody McDonald What Wilking is addressing is the bone dry "what does it mean to be saved" question. Its clear that he believes that works come as a result of faith, and that continuing to sin and using grace as a door mat to wipe your feet of sin (like catholics try and do) is a good example of what is addressed in the end of Romans 1 and Romans 2

Nathan Gardner lol Wilkin*

Cody McDonald you dont understand context he does not endorse easy believism.

+Cody McDonald Cody, "Easy believism" is a pejorative term made up by those who either 1) don't understand the doctrine of biblical justification or 2) deny it outright. Wilkins explains this doctrine and how it is in total harmony with the context the authors of the NT (all books) intended. James 2 doesn't define the overwhelming amount of versus that declare justification by faith apart from our efforts, rather the message of the NT define James 2 in addition to the entirety of James.

When did he ever say sinning is ok?