I think Harari is a good example of the useless class.

Imagine how stupid we are as human beings. We have given away our data for free to companies and worst all we do nothing about it.

"Useless class of people"? What disgusting framing and a horrendous way to reduce people to their economic function.

@The title: There is a decisive difference between calling people useless, no matter for which reason and recognising that a certain group of people don't have useful responsibilities, tasks or jobs! To qualify people as "useless" takes a specific attitude. That attitude shaped the darkest history of my home country Germany. Words matter and have consequences. Video not watched.

This guy is the living embodiment of "professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"

If you can read people by their faces(physiognomy) you wouldn't trust that man not even a little bit. He desperately tried to gain your trust in order to gain more authority for him self because he knows that most people(80% - don't have a critical mind) if you not an authority they wouldn't listen to you but if you are especially if you are big one, world-known authority, they would blindly believe you even when you throw at them all sort of nonsense)- but behind all that nonsense, he is throw at you, pure evil agenda - nothing else. Look carefully into his eyes - there are no anybody interest but only his own. Those kind of people live by principle "goal justifies any means." They are usually using a lot of right words and examples but don't let them to fool you behind all of that only their evil agenda - depopulation by 90% - 95%.

The internet has created a class of people who think they know best - despite obviously not doing so. The sheer hubris is stunning.

Useless people! What a concept! It’s really stunning when you think about it. It assumes that humans are - or at least, should be - useful to others and of they lack utility to others, they are somehow diminished in value. But are people not intrinsically valuable? If a person doesn’t produce goods and services to be consumed by society, does that person lack value?

Because the comments are turned off on video of Yuval Harari’s World Economic Forum (WEF) Davos 2020 speech, I’m going to make a quick mention of something here. By the way, I encourage everyone to watch his Davos speech, and read in between the lines. At the end of Harari’s 2020 Davos speech, he brings up the possibility that humanity may face an existential threat if the technologies that are quickly approaching (if not here already) fall into the wrong hands. ….. This I agree with. I am extremely concerned that technology , specifically AI driven, will become so powerful that if used by “bad actors” it will ignite a catastrophe so devastating that it will wipe out humanity as we know it. But, Harari goes on to label the surviving members of humanity - implying after governments, corporations, elite ruling class, etc. gets annihilated - as “rats”. At first I figured I must have missed something, and that he literally meant only rats (the animals) would survive. But after watching the last minute of his speech 5 times, it’s clear that I hadn’t missed anything… he referred to the remaining human beings as ”rats”. *Maybe the WEF, Davos attendees, and the cadre of elite technocrats are actually the ones who pose the biggest threat to human kind. Well I take that back, not “maybe”, definitely.*

Listening to him make me want to start a revolution to demand regulations about my data for the big companies. Also, I’m downloading other search engines (different than Google) and using different browsers. I got into reading about privacy in internet. Idk what else I can do as individual

"The biggest discovery of the scientific revolution was the discovery of ignorance." - YN Harari

Useless means "not needed", and when used about people, the path leads to mass graves. Let us pray that the right people fill them.

A useless class of people already exists. I estimate about 30% of jobs to be completely superfluous and exist solely because we can not imagine a society where people do not have to work. Those jobs waste energy and resources and obstruct people with useful jobs.

Even if his prediction of an autonomous future was to emerge no one should never ever be considered useless!!

I'm 55 years old. I've heard the "retraining" spiel before. After the Great Recession of 2008, I struggled as a poor marginalized middle-aged housewife with dyslexia from generational poverty here in the US to get "retrained" (on top of the Bachelors degree in math I already had that I earned at age 34 which never opened one single door to a job opportunity for me, by the way) in coding/web app development. But because I'm a woman and because I was in my early 40s, I never got a chance for a job. I participated in three such "retraining" schemes but never got picked for any entry level jobs I could have succeeded at in the field. Women and older workers trying to re-enter the job market were and are still discriminated against in tech and tech jobs comprise only about 8-10% of good jobs (but those tech jobs are rapidly eating other good white-collar jobs in other fields). The only women that even get a chance for any job at a tech company are women who are under age 35 who are from upper-middle class/upper-class families that help them get jobs, and who are "eye candy" (also known as "pretty privilege"). I'm not the only poor person whose skills, aptitude and talent was wasted by the over-privileged economic gatekeepers in this society because of being made disposable due to discrimination. Algorithms decide who gets a job interview and who does not, who gets hired and who does not-for any job, even crappy minimum wage jobs like part-time minimum wage cashier at the local Smoker Friendly outlet.

Inefficiency is a feature not a bug lol

why they keep showing Krishnan's face while the other person is talking? it is unnecessary and a little bit disturbing ..

That’s terrifying. There are so many people manipulated by algorithms now.

Social Media had already done this.

If our data is being used in an unethical way already, then why would anyone want to have an implant in their brain that would transmit information automatically? Also, I've head Yuval say in multiple videos that the brain/interface computer will help you to know yourself better than you think you know yourself..... This is not logical. The algorithm has to be written to a certain set of standards (created by someone who makes a bunch of assumptions that can be correct or incorrect). Humans are too dynamic to for this type of categorization.

An algorithm is just a flow chart expressed as computer code, if-then statements, but that doesnt sound as impressive.

Most AI runs on data from people, you're not useless you've just had you work erased and stolen. Look up how translate works, it needs your data to work

while he's correct on some level in arguing that simple avoidance isn't enough, it's really a question of what it is that you're after. i actually am the odd weirdo that doesn't carry a smart phone - at all - and i'm cognizant of how frustrating i am to the authorities here in canada, who are nonetheless trying to track me in ways they're no longer trained to, for the apparent reason that i use the communications technology without using the devices they're taught to use. so, i will log on to the internet and type with a keyboard using a laptop, but i won't carry a phone, or even log in to facebook. they don't know _what_ to do when faced with something so simple, yet so incomprehensible to them. the general narrative we've been hearing for decades is about how technology makes workers lazy or stupid, but i think that's the less important narrative; we're losing touch with a narrative (i remember seeing on the original star trek series) about how the technology makes _government_ stupid and lazy. if i'm being actively spied on, as i see large amounts of evidence that i am, i'm not being spied on by smart scientists that understand how the technology works, and can adjust to simple evasion techniques. no - i'm being spied on by poorly educated law enforcement officials that have to rely on their training, and are no longer being taught what to do beyond pushing a few buttons. when the state becomes reliant on technology in this way, it actually loses the ability to make simple decisions, and in that sense becomes easier to evade. if you can automate the automation, you can perhaps transcend that, but it's the old luddite paradox: somebody has to exist behind the robots, at some point. for right now, let me tell you, i'm pretty sure i'm working out a proof of concept in simply not carrying a phone, or logging into the servers they use to trace people with. i can see evidence of how baffling i am to them, and the level of difficulty they're having with the non-compliance. in the long run, if normal people can sort of clue into this, an over-reliance on technology by the state could very well lead to their own collapse, as they forget how to do basic things, and workers find it easier to evade control as a result of it. we'll see what happens, but i think that this narrative of decadence is deifying the state, when it should be humanizing it - and that the chinese may find, in the end, that their reliance on the technology is their undoing.

How could it when people were made to be artists? To be able to focus on the higher things in life, to express our creativity and to learn about Nature, to write books, to dance, to sing, to act, to direct! This is what we were born for! The machines are freeing us up for our truer purpose

This guy is insane!!!!!!!

Is it a class of people who will use less?

Smart people might become redundant but us dumb folks will continue living our lives...

Yes, you might trust your doctor, but if your doctor stores the information on you in the same massive database that all the other doctors use, then that database is just asking to be exploited, even if your doctor has only good, honest intentions. It also presents the owners of that database with many highly lucrative options to sell or use that data themselves. That is what the social media platforms do, it is their business model.

I've read all three of YNH's science books and am absolutely hooked! Such brilliantly thought provoking and soul searching analysis of humanity, history, the future and the destiny of the universe. Please write a fourth Mr. Harari.

Harari is among the best now. I do hope that someday he'll do more intensive China studies to complete his genius brain. Maybe starts with Adrian Zenz and his twitt? "The BBC commissioned my research. They asked the first time whether it could be done. I said "no", too hard, too little evidence. They asked again, I said: "let me see what I can find". Well, the resulting finding now total 17,000 words and 163 footnotes." Talk about story making. . . . follow the money.

Well journalists will have to go for a start, 99% of office workers will be redundant, schools, universities: totally unnecessary; CEO’s? No need for most of them right now! The thing is; the sort of people who will no longer be required are not the ones who currently think that their position in society is assured, who think that they are indispensable. The late Stephen Hawking said that the greatest threat to humanity was AI. I wouldn’t particularly argue with that, but it takes a certain kind of scientific “genius” to pursue such projects; reminiscent of the type who developed the nuclear bomb. Lots of intelligence, but no brains.

He knows a lot more than he letting on, and that’s why I find it all more than a little creepy.

Let's not forget, his specialty is medieval military history, and the history of the war experience. All the other subjects he speaks of, he exhibits utter ignorance in scientific knowledge

We already have a class of useless people before the emergence of AI, and they regularly meet at Davos.

He says basic logic things in a very elegant way. He isn't a billionaire....

Words are abstract. Images are concrete. Hence there's a whole industry of concept designers and illustrators who translate written ideas into visual representations.

So much wisdom shared .. for those that know how to read between the lines (within the confines of what KZfaq would permit without being censored). Be smart, people .. listen twice to fully capture what he's trying to communicate to us

Preheat oven to 350F.

I can listen to this amazing man all day, so captivating.

Ai will remove the need of CEO

Brilliant interview! listening to Harari is truly amazing

They forgot Artificial Stupidity

Yuval is probably confident he isn't one of them? Am I right?

This WEF guy is Russel brands good friend… awesome

That is what everyone said when machines were introduced and farming too needed much fewer people. Why whould it be so different this time around? Progress is good. Sure some skills will be made redundant/less valuable but overall ...

Harari is himself a useless person. Honestly what has he given to the world other than a couple of books which I would argue are little more than a rehash of concepts which science fiction authors have covered for many years? Marshall Brain wrote a brilliant piece of fiction decades ago which asked the question about how AI and robots would impact the world and the two likely outcomes.

Robots and AI was created and advancing in a very fast pace for one reason and one reason alone. The economics of these technologies is the driving force behind those inventions. High Labor Cost is the paramount reason why business are adopting the AI technology.

Im staring at the black abyss of the mindset of satan himself

A self-appointed ‘bridge’ ……

I am reading you recently and listing your talks are really opening new ways of thunking

No, social media did that already. Look at the Kardashians.

In the near future, if you don't let them monitor you biometrics using biosensors, you don't get health insurance. Is that a world you want to live in?

How will AI function without an electrical supply and can that power be provided forever? What lives outside the interconnected circle of life is dependent upon that life to survive. There's a greater intelligence that AI at work in everything seen and unseen. Flowers and trees for example. Microbes. A vast tapestry of life that's still unfolding. Still, that was a very interesting talk, thank you!

Fantastic interview! I've been watching Channel 4 for a couple of years. Shorter news pieces. I've found them to be good. For an irishman living in USA they've giving me useful info & insights on UK attitudes.This long piece however is a revelation.Such interesting, exciting, stimulating conversation! I had no idea C4 was putting out such high quality work. Well done Channel4. Well done Krishnan.

Another great interview, thanks for putting it together. Really interesting points about the mindset of the medieval person's world view in comparison with our own, among many others.

This is not the industrial revolution which created multiple new trades nor are people warning about the effects of A.I. and robotics, Luddites. The simple fact is A.I. and robotics actually decrease the availability of employment, mainly amongst the non skilled, low skilled and various parts of the skill sector but it will sharpely impact on the middle class especially civil servants

Yes, it will, which is why we need to bring in a universal wage. We could easily afford to pay everybody 25K a year.

Check out 23:37 for how to flash up an exact zero... totally without any awkwardness pre flash at all.

Brilliant conversation and discourse. We need to consider very carefully the pros and cons of our intrusive technological world, if we do not wish to become a "door mat" for technology to wipe its feet on.

Once AI evolves and has a mind of its own i.e. consciousness, it is likely that all humans will be both useless and surplus to requirements.

THE GREAT RESET/NARRATIVE. Look it up.

Sorry, this guy is very overrated. Racism is one of the most natural protective mechanisms for survival of the family. Its forms may differ but it is always present unless it is made illegal. His basic thesis of stories is also faulty since the entire history of the world is the fight between different stories.

Yes! Despite all the good things AI can contribute to ‘productivity’, we know that the dark side of it also will create the human race destruction at an alarming scale.

Harari needs to change his therapists because his schizophrenia is not going better.

The one thing AI will do since it is balanced is get rid of capitalism, democracy and religion and any feelings of being special. AI does not like selfishness.

My book mark is just about to start the ‘Hocus pocus and the industry of disbelief’. Fantastic read.

Man trying to play God never turns out well

One suggestion: start listening this one from the end. Then you decide if there is an agenda here or not. That’s the 2% reason of the other 98% of this interview to exist.

"In 20. years the number of people that understand the financial system will be zero. It will be so complicated that only AI will be able to manage it..." => epic, love this. guy, I only wished he would try to learn. how to code to get out some of the bugs in his own reasoning.

Andrew Yang is talking about it!

There is a book that already tells us about where we are headed and how it all ends because of the evil intent of people who want power and total control. God has already revealed the future to us in the book of Revelation in the Bible but most people would rather listen to this man who doesn't even believe in a creator, instead of reading what God has already revealed to us in his word.

Perhaps we should push our algorithms around virtually, such that people start utilizing it.

And I totally agree on the need on more transparency going both ways. In the name of democracy.

Talk about uncomfortable Technology!

I learnt a lot from your great conversation!

Frage: "WIrd künstliche Intelligenz eine Masse von überflüssigen Menschen produzieren?" Antwort: "Ja." So einfach ist das. Tatsache ist, dass die neuen Technologien schon seit vielen Jahren, ja mittlerweile sogar schon seit ein paar Jahrzehnten Millionen von Menschen überflüssig gemacht hat. Man bedenke die Entwicklung der Automatisierung, Robotisierung der Industrie, Millionen von Arbeitsplätze verloren an Maschinen, winziges Beispiel Bankomaten...

Yuval Noah Harari ought to talk about his own country's Pegasus software.

I already feel useless. Guess I have a youtube channel so I'm somebody.

All human life generally tends to be useful to one person or the other because love cannot be copied by machines and only humans can love each other and have relationships and connections. So calling people useless is meaningless. Its just like pet dogs. You cannot call them useless because they can't do maths. Life is valuable. Computers are our slaves and should not be our masters.

Brilliant. Well done!

Love Mr. Yuval and his previous works, however he is overreaching on many issues when discussing about Machine Learning and AI.

*NO* ! It will cause some occupations to go extinct, but will never create useless classes of people, that is a very short sighted assumption.

Below 83 and you are looking at a "dependant" ...and until ya fix that...its a downhill battle to the bottom. Yes you can if you like ignore the "problem"... but I promise you this... The "problem" will not ignore you!

If only intelligent people like Noah ruled the West. They have a balanced human intelligence.

No one can write data without first learning how! It’s not the people it’s opportunity. So some of the people he calls useless might be more brilliant . ???

They (the masters who make the rules) want to devolve human beings into human doings.

A fantastic interview as always with the brilliant Yuval. By the way i recommend his book Lessons for 21st Century which talks about this and many other upcoming societal revolutions.

Excellent interview - thank you

Labels wouldn't work anymore by then.

This guy is pure horror, pure evil.

Thank you.

Clearly doesn't understand spirit and free will. Sounding intelligent doesn't make you a wise man. Being intelligent doesn't make you a wise man. He's not wise.

Following! Very insightful information

Oh channel 4, we met again.... I haven't had your video on my feed since JBP

2% of global GDP is about $1.5 trillion, by the way, which is roughly half the value of German GDP. Spread across the globe it's not much to save civilisation as we know it. Just takes the will to do it.

What 6:20- 7:00 onwards is interesting. What enforced a more rigid hierarchy?

The solution for the useless class is the venomous jab? certainly..

AI might be used to fill in indefinite articles

Does he really believe that this “super algorithm” will be unbiased? After all it’s humans who set it up. So give me a break with your example of “and if the banker is racist he can judge you by a skin color”. The parameters inserted into an algorithm to calculate your “truthfulness” can also vary depending on various factors, including your skin color or social-credit-score, so the output will be biased!

Amazing interview as always! Just would say that I didn't like his view on AI not being very explainable. There is a lot of new methods on AI explainability which allow to know the reasons AI made given decisions. Also, AI can take decisions based on hundreds of variables, but can give much more weight to only a few important ones (not equal weights to all of them).