Will artists survive AI? The creativity crisis

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Dr Waku

Dr Waku

Күн бұрын

AI has become immensely better at image generation in recent years. It's now at the point where amazing images can be created readily by those with no artistic background. Tools like midjourney and stable diffusion allow a simple text prompt to be turned into infinite visualizations. These tools have had an adverse impact on artists who make a living selling the images they create. Painting and drawing is one of the first disciplines to become partially automated by AI.
Many artists are understandably upset about these new tools. Part of their case is that AI models are trained on most of the images on the internet, which includes all kinds of copyrighted work used without permission. Companies that train AI models are pushing to have the law modified to make this legal (which has already been passed in Japan). It's not currently illegal, since it's a scenario that has not arisen previously and has no precedent.
Many people that appreciate art do so because they form a connection with the artwork or the artist. That becomes harder when the artist is not a discrete individual but rather a continuous melding of many. We try to address what creativity means now and why people prefer human art. We also outline some ways in which society could act to protect the interests of artists, by fully supporting them or supporting career transitions as necessary. Although artists are the ones swept up by this change right now, automation will come to supplement and then supplant jobs all across the economy, so we need to start figuring out this problem now.
Antonio Cabrero @antoniocabrero
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Why Artists are Fed Up with AI Art. (SamDoesArts)
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Kris Kashtanova @icreatelife
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Japan Declares AI Training Data Fair Game and ‘Will Not Enforce Copyright’
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#ai #art #creativity
0:00 Intro
0:42 Contents
0:49 Part 1: Economic agency
1:14 Examples of image generation AI systems
1:43 Contentious topic, be nice
2:07 Why are some artists angry about AI?
2:57 Also an economic issue
3:19 Copyright preserves economic benefit
3:55 Is it acceptable to train on all images on the internet?
4:32 Copyright law can change overnight (e.g. Japan)
5:24 What makes AI different from artists and past tech?
6:05 AI can remember everything
6:27 AI is 1000x faster than a human artist
6:57 Not fundamentally different from a human
7:27 Comparison to music sharing websites (Napster, Grooveshark)
8:30 Societal norms can be changed
9:03 In the case of art, AI companies have the economic backing
9:44 Example: Japan legalized training
10:14 Part 2: Creativity and the human condition
10:46 AI is a continuous entity, not discrete
11:29 Can AI be creative? At the high level?
11:57 Example: my thumbnails via midjourney
12:34 Example: tool is assisting human expression
13:22 AI will start to understand the "why"
13:34 Style evolves over time
13:56 Part 3: What society could do
14:14 Status quo not good (e.g. with disabilities)
14:43 "Democratizing art"
14:51 Case study: music separates copyright
16:03 Case study: books and novels
16:46 What should society prioritize?
17:10 Skill and hard work not economically valuable
17:47 AI unemployment insurance
18:29 But how do you pay for it?
18:59 References including workshop
19:38 Conclusion
20:25 Connection is difficult with an AI system
21:21 Outro

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@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of art, my Patreon members now have access to all my thumbnails, including project files with layers: www.patreon.com/DrWaku Hop on discord to read Roly's books: discord.gg/AgafFBQdsc
@aiartrelaxation
@aiartrelaxation 2 ай бұрын
Can't find the Art course link , for Feb 6 please repost, thanks
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
This hat is too small for me but it's the most artist-like I have. Knitted by a friend.
@jverart2106
@jverart2106 3 ай бұрын
It's awesome! Keep bringing new ones, we appreciate them :)
@EdgarRoock
@EdgarRoock 3 ай бұрын
Not looking French enough 🙂
@MB-hz7wm
@MB-hz7wm 2 ай бұрын
You can use a spray bottle to dampen inner/outer then leave overnight on larger object to stretch.
@GnaReffotsirk
@GnaReffotsirk 2 ай бұрын
That's deep. Thank you.
@kyer9677
@kyer9677 3 ай бұрын
I fucked around with gen AI art for about a month. I wasnt just typing 5 words to bing, I incorporated the digital art skills I already had to tweak the results. Did I "make" some cool looking stuff? Sure. But it it never felt like it was truly mine. I'm still thankful for the experience I had experimenting with AI though. It made me re-evaluate why I even do art in the first place. I get a result faster by scarificing the process of actually using my skills and engaging my mind in the process. That is the most valuable part to me I suppose? The journey is longer but the reward tastes much sweeter. Obviously I know not everyone is the same and I dont expect it.
@hydrohasspoken6227
@hydrohasspoken6227 2 ай бұрын
We have different "feel" systems. I feel deeply connected with all the characters in create in Midjourney. They are mine.
@kyer9677
@kyer9677 2 ай бұрын
@hydrohasspoken6227 good for you:)
@Cytryz
@Cytryz 3 ай бұрын
I don’t see any of that aide coming any time soon and certainly not kicking off for artists. I think most people are happy to cast aside artists as a whole. They don’t really care who or what makes the things they consume. I find a sizable chunk quite giddy and happy to shit on them with also a weird desire to paint a narrative that artists are somehow some type of elite or consider themselves (artists) to be elite. I would also say most people don’t care about the higher properties of art. They don’t think about it, they will not give it thought until prompted and in most case when prompted they may or may not agree but the most likely action will be to do nothing. When the digital axe comes for them and the professions they can qualify for then they will care. This to me is the most likely reality. Also beyond those with disabilities, it hasn’t democratized art. Nothing prevents a person from picking up a pencil, stylus, rock, chalk, charcoal, paint, salt, glass, their finger, (insert 1 of 1,000s of objects) and to learn to draw. If you can use Ai art, then you have a pc, most likely an internet connection and access to 100,000s if not 1,000,000s of hrs worth of tutorials artists provided for free and a minority for pay including very adequate free software and free resources. Not to mention millions of images one could bash together using photoshop or w/e as a whole or part of your picture. Same with 3D there’s so many free tools and resources. That this “democratization” is a bit crap. It’s like having a thing that can speak for you, claiming it has democratized language when yet, as obviously seen. We are all reasonably and practically more than capable of speaking, barring a very small minority whom conveniently was never the focus when people say “democratized’. If you had time to make your account, find this channel, watch this video, etc. Especially if you read and reply to this, You had time to make art. You could’ve done art instead during that time. If you want to use Ai, go for it I guess, but don’t pretend like it’s doing something that it is not.
@strawberryshortcake4345
@strawberryshortcake4345 3 ай бұрын
This! If I'm going to drown I'd love everyone to come down with me too, then they'll start to care. "Not everyone has time or willingness to invest" well then let us do our job, did we always had time to learn and invest before joining art school? it's the same for every profession, Are there no self taught artists who made a living for themselves while learning in such hectic times? Had art as a side thing along with their jobs? just say you don't have that much of a passion for art to begin with and shut it, I HOPE ANYONE WHO COMES BASHING ARTIST OR SAYS STUFF LIKE "TIME TO CHANGE JOBS" GETS THEIR JOBS TAKEN TOO!! Make the world of AI, let this shit thrive expand, take every fucking job in existence, programmers, lawyers, doctors, EVERYTHING I'm happy to starve or live a passion less life but please let them too. What was the point of it all?
@hydrohasspoken6227
@hydrohasspoken6227 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it is democratised. I grew up with a cousin who could draw "perfect" faces within minutes. I wished desperately i could do that. He wasn't much into drawing though. I was the one who always had vivid images in my head waiting to be drawn, but my cousin never felt like doing it. Enters Midjourney and i am a happy man. Per day i let it creat around 500 images for me.
@natzos6372
@natzos6372 Ай бұрын
@@strawberryshortcake4345 you didnt care when others lost their jobs to automation
@Albin9197
@Albin9197 3 ай бұрын
As an artist and graphic designer, i really appreciate your perspective on AI in general. I am still afraid, i wont lie. But i have no choice but to ride this wave, so I'll keep creating art and keep doing my job, finding ways to decrease my chance of getting displaced, and safeguarding my mental and physical health.
@diga4696
@diga4696 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your content, much better structured and not rushed when compared to many similar KZfaqrs. Your channel and MLST are my favourite. Your reasoning is simple to understand, yet touches on many complex topics.
@DaveShap
@DaveShap 3 ай бұрын
Very thoughtful investigation. Well done. Also economic agency! Yes, this is the big thing...
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I always appreciate it :)
@shermaynebrown5165
@shermaynebrown5165 3 ай бұрын
Agreed! Thoroughly enjoyed this!!!! Thank you!!!!
@terrydunne100
@terrydunne100 3 ай бұрын
I'm not exactly a master artist, but I dabble in painting a bit, strum a few tunes on the guitar, and jot down some lines here and there. I reckon I've got enough of a knack for it to share an opinion or two. You see, artists of today draw inspiration from those who came before them. And just like that, AI will draw inspiration from human artists who paved the way. When it starts thinking on its own, it'll churn out music, literature, and art that humans couldn't fathom. It's like the natural flow of things, you know? Just take a breath and let life unfold. (Only one humble opinion)
@Yic17Gaming
@Yic17Gaming 3 ай бұрын
That's a rather rational opinion. Most artists I see have some extreme distain for AI art - well, they wouldn't even call it art to begin with. I am mostly in agreement with you. Change is the only constant of life - they'll change no matter how hard you try to keep things the same. So it's best to just go with the flow. I think one of the main concerns is that AI will not come up with something original - they'll just keep learning from what humans have done before. So we'll end up getting lots of similar looking art made by AI. I personally don't really think it's an issue though because that kind of assumes humans will no longer make art and will all be AI. The world is not black and white - just because more people use AI doesn't mean there won't still be humans who can come up with original styles. As for AI coming up with their own original art and styles - I believe one day they will be able to but we just don't know how long it's going to take until AI can actually think and imagine. Could be 5 years, 10 years, or 100 years.
@terrydunne100
@terrydunne100 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Here's how I see it: There'll be just as many artists who embrace AI to enhance their art as there will be those who reject it and face the repercussions. In the grand scheme of things, when AI starts forging its own creative paths, some of the folks who initially opposed it might even try to mimic its style. And oddly enough, they'll probably think that's perfectly acceptable, as long as it's not the other way around.@@Yic17Gaming
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
A wise perspective. Thanks for watching as always.
@terrydunne100
@terrydunne100 3 ай бұрын
The counterpoints to my argument are extremely wise. It will take us all sorting out the details along the road to make it work. So goes progress. As far as watching. It was my absolute pleasure. Your videos are thought-provoking. A mind challenged is a mind evolving.@@DrWaku
@georgesalles1166
@georgesalles1166 3 ай бұрын
what a timely subject! I found this channel recently and it's amazing!
@h.malbis6760
@h.malbis6760 3 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation Dr Waku! You enlightened me about the issues involved.
@Damian_h
@Damian_h 3 ай бұрын
Im a 3d artist i know the AI bros are grinding from 2D to 3D and eventually it will reach my field. But I also know how to code and do some VFX. My problem is my age due to being poor in my childhood my education was bad from the bases and since the game design career has a lot of math in it so it took more more time than it should to finish it. Im 1 exam away to finish my thesis but after that i need to search for a job so i dont really know whats going to happen to my life since AI tech is expanding so fast.
@Techtalk2030
@Techtalk2030 3 ай бұрын
Human Art will i think always be there but its going to become a small market as far as jobs go. People will most likely always do art for themselves or because they enjoy it though.
@DanHammonds
@DanHammonds 3 ай бұрын
It could be as digital art loses all value, traditional, physical art will increase in value. The same way hand made watches and tailored clothing are more valuable than anything mass produced.
@jpww111
@jpww111 3 ай бұрын
Very good as always! Balanced and multifaceted. Thank you very much
@howmathematicianscreatemat9226
@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 3 ай бұрын
For me it’s sad that we won’t value the creativity of our bros anymore. Only soulless bots get all the credits soon. Do we really want to be meanginless in life? If not, let’s kick the tech CEOs out of business as soon as we can…
@stereotyp9991
@stereotyp9991 3 ай бұрын
Whatever all too complex things I do, I always come back to Midjourney.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
I like midjourney a lot.
@jessicas-discoveries-age-6-12
@jessicas-discoveries-age-6-12 3 ай бұрын
As a digital matte painter concept artist and illustrator for 3 decades, I'm currently having to learn a lot of new skills in other creative areas. I've had no choice but to embrace AI art as more and more of my clients expect and even encourage the use of it. I feel I've become more like an art director nudging the AI in the right direction with rough sketches and careful prompting. Its only a matter of time before my old skills have very little value anymore. I'm just trying to keep my head above water in the mean time as we are going through this change and find new areas of work. I'm sure human made paintings and crafts will always be valued but as a digital artist trying to make a living, the writing is most definitely on the wall.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. I think I would be feeling a lot more down about all this if I was a digital artist or illustrator.
@minixlemonade2335
@minixlemonade2335 3 ай бұрын
"I've had no choice but to embrace AI art" that aint true
@jessicas-discoveries-age-6-12
@jessicas-discoveries-age-6-12 3 ай бұрын
Really, have you tried painting a 15k resolution vr screen matte painting of a city in intricate photo real detail with only a 2 day deadline. That sort of shit used to take me a week to do. Am I going to sit here and say, yeah I've got a mortgage, bills and a family to support but I'm going a make a pointless moral stand and not take the job. Unless you've been living under a rock the VFX industry has effectively been put on hold for the last few months with the writers strikes and many of us are living on savings or have had to find other areas of work to get by. Unless your prepared to use the tools, people will just look elsewhere to get it done quicker or attempt to get less skilled people to have a crack at it or do it themselves. That's just reality. There are areas of art that still require a lot of human input, particularly if its something that requires a lot of precision like close up architectural detail or vector art graphics but eventually even that advantage will fade away as the tools get better. @@minixlemonade2335
@minixlemonade2335
@minixlemonade2335 3 ай бұрын
@@jessicas-discoveries-age-6-12 Hard work is good work. Be proud it took you a week to do that. That's dedication to your craft, not a waste of time. You don't need to default to AI to pay the bills (which I can't imagine is even really doing that? People don't buy AI images). There's so many avenues to take. Is it hard? Yes. And draining. And soul crushing. But it's so rewarding in the end. Rewarding to know YOU made it! I've had to meet crazy deadlines myself and I'm right there with you, some deadlines are ridiculous and unhuman. I've wanted to quit before. However. You seem like someone who never wanted to put in the time or work to make something amazing and just whine about how long it took, and probably jumped for joy when you could get a copyright stealing computer to do it all for you. I got news for you, good things often take a long ass time to make, and the difference in quality is noticeable. Customers notice it too. This isn't about taking "the moral highground" it's about making good art that will be fondly remembered, not some cheap ass bullshit a computer crapped out. Your work isn't cheap, but AI is absolutely cheap. I get it bills gotta get paid but it's hardly the only option to get cash, even in the art field. Some people do prostitution for money but that's not good either. Of course AI isn't as bad as prostitution obviously but I certainly hope you'd view your work more highly. The art industry has never really been one with a lot of money, so if all you look at is the money you're gonna get tunnel vision. There's more to art than money. It's your life bro I don't care what a rando does with their time. But when you're old and dying, do you really want all your work to be partially or totally not your doing? If so that's a bit sad, I'm sorry. I don't mean disrespect but I certainly hope you'd respect your own work more than that. Why even be a artist if you're not even making it or you're doing so little anyone can do it? There are other industries that pay way better than art. A "a 15k resolution vr screen matte painting of a city in intricate photo in realistic detail" is worth so much more than something a algorithm popped out, and customers would agree. Your own skills are infinitely more valuable than a AI's will ever be, and I'm sorry you don't view your art more highly because I believe all art made with human hands are beautiful. I hope someday you view your work more highly, because there might be a day where you realize you aren't making anything at all. I won't be responding further, have a good one.
@neurojitsu
@neurojitsu 3 ай бұрын
@@jessicas-discoveries-age-6-12 I hear you my friend, and I mourn the loss of artists and creatives in all walks of life. The creative types are in every walk of life, they're the ones that solve the most difficult problems and challenges in any field, from law to medicine to management sciences. They're all under threat, but artists just happen to be the easy first target for parasitic technologies. But you are right IMHO: we have no choice but to embrace technology and stay ahead. One thing I would challenge though: AI cannot (yet) exercise true agency or true judgment. AI can only replicate to order via prompts. Replication comes from the past, creativity - as in the truly new and unique and different - is beyond the reach of AI and will remain so, until AI learns to have judgment and agency. AI is currently a creativity and analysis co-pilot. Copyright is the heart of the problem: there's just no incentive any more for artists to invest months or years developing a new style of art, for it to be copied and replicated without payment from AI companies. I realise this doesn't change your argument: for most artists, art is a job first and a channel of artistic expression second.
@Michael-el
@Michael-el 3 ай бұрын
Well done. You’ve become a voice I listen to because you have a knowledgeable and thoughtful approach.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much :)
@DanHammonds
@DanHammonds 3 ай бұрын
I've been a digital artist most of my life, starting as a pixel artist in the 90s. Sadly my business and all my career prospects have been killed off by these AI developments. However, it's always been the way with digital art. As technology advances and competition grows, it was inevitable and something I've come to terms with. I don't expect to make a living from AI art, but I'm having so much fun conjuring up wild images, dreamscapes and immersive scenes. It the most fun I've had with art for many years and I can't wait to see where it will go over the next few years.
@radudancoroian5169
@radudancoroian5169 Ай бұрын
An illistrator of that many decades dont just get their career nuked like this. Fake post
@KyleandPrieteni
@KyleandPrieteni 3 ай бұрын
I kinda have a bone to pick with midjourney and Dall-e and the other online only(closed sourced) generators. As a stable diffusion artist I never liked how easy it was to make good looking art through those platforms. At least with stable diffusion it's open sourced meaning theirs's TONS(I mean TONS) of tools and extensions to further the control of the model and other models to use with it(LoRa, Controlnet, LCM, and a bunch more). And even do model editing/merging and syntax editing to assist the model to do things differently and many many more + bunch of new stuff researchers create and release to the community. It feels more like an art form over the typical generators, because they are closed and you can't do much with them and you have to rely on them not censoring something just because someone or society thinks it's offensive. I feel the same way hand made artists feel when I put all this extra work(with Stable Diffusion) and I see people using the others and barely putting any work into something and getting more attention.
@NathanLorenzana
@NathanLorenzana 3 ай бұрын
Attention and problem solving are 2 different things
@E3AloeLi
@E3AloeLi Ай бұрын
I’m 17 and an artist I don’t use Ai art because it’s not creative enough for me, and I know many people in the “Ai art bro” community that are disgusting horrible people as well as most programs steal the work of artists and don’t give credit. They did this when an artist EXPRESSED they didn’t want this and did it to a recently dead artist. It scares me, I feel what I use to cope with my trauma and pass on the wisdom I’ve gained from that pain as something mechanical and replaceable. I’m too use to being nothing but a tool. I hate it and don’t want it.
@ScottRiddleArtist
@ScottRiddleArtist 3 ай бұрын
A few perspectives on this that people may not think about. Often and especially in America. People don’t understand that creativity and art is actually one of the higher forms of intelligence. Think about it? What other animal the planet can think something through and then express it or bring it into a three-dimensional reality in the form of a solid visual object? artists have always struggled and they struggle more than ever now. But what worries me more than people further abusing and misunderstanding, actual art and the intelligence behind it. Is that AI is just one more way to dumb people down. Creativity and art is all about expression and problem-solving. these fools that think because they can type some prompts into an AI and it creates images for them and they think their artists? Delusional. So I worry about this technology in regards to further dumbing down of humanity.
@Yic17Gaming
@Yic17Gaming 3 ай бұрын
Interesting timing. I have been reading up on the discourse between artists and AI artists and let me tell you - it's very depressing. The two sides mostly function on tribal mentality - lots of mockery, bullying, and just not much rational thinking. I haven't watched your video yet so it'll be interesting to see your perspective on the whole thing. Will probably make another comment once I finish.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Yes the type of discourse is a bit depressing which is the main reason I made this video. I don't like controversial topics that much but it had to be addressed...
@Yic17Gaming
@Yic17Gaming 3 ай бұрын
@@DrWaku Thanks for making these videos. I've enjoyed many of them. I appreciate your effort on addressing this AI art issue. Unfortunately, I don't think this issue is mostly a logical one. While what you laid out in this video will help people understand what's going on better - from what I see, many people within this discourse are coming from a more raw, emotional place. And I think the core of the issue has more to do with our human tribal nature. Unless we deal with our tribal nature, this type of discourse will just keep going from one topic to another. Which makes me wonder, what do you think about our human tribal nature? Do you think it's something we humans should work on getting rid of? I thought about genetic engineering in the future but obviously that has ethical issues + not feasible to do on a wide scale. Or can we evolve away from it simply through proper education? Or is it something that will always be there as long as there's variety in the world? Or do you not think human tribal nature is an issue at all? Would be interested to see if you can make a video on this topic. Anyway, this is a bit off topic I know. Maybe I'll write another comment with my opinion that's on topic. 😁
@LawrenceChung
@LawrenceChung 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos. You're very articulate
@williamal91
@williamal91 3 ай бұрын
morning doc, good to see you
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thanks you too
@marginbuu212
@marginbuu212 3 ай бұрын
On the other hand, this might increase the demand for physical art made by real humans.
@mrd736
@mrd736 3 ай бұрын
I like your suggestions, but people in power would never go for that. That said, I love your video. :) ps Am I the only one who after using AI art for about a year now has gone back to basics and making art with my hands? It feels like a natural progression/regression.
@markbench7005
@markbench7005 3 ай бұрын
Great video and good content! You comment regarding Japan copyright laws...can you share your source/reference/citation?
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Oh good point! I added a link to the video description.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Also this haha twitter.com/airkatakana/status/1725775206416060891
@typhoon320i
@typhoon320i 3 ай бұрын
illusionistic, 2D, art creation, is a bio-chemical algorithm, we have been working on for about 50,000 years. Now machines understand the algorithm. NO ONE owns the algorithm, never have.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Interesting way of describing it. But yes. Knowledge passed on from master to student, and now the student is a machine
@pookienumnums
@pookienumnums 3 ай бұрын
The only way for ai to 100% reproduce an image is if that is the only image its trained on. Which would be over training. The more images in the dataset, the less significant the role each individual plays in the training and as a result the images generated by that dataset (the model trained on the dataset). You wont be able to replicate an image from the training data because of how latent space works. In the latent space the dataset is basically a ultra complex spiderweb inside of some cloudy fog, and each image in dataset exists at multiple points within the web and the cloud at the same time; one point for each describable aspect of an image in data set. To explain that, think of a painting of a brown cat. That image exists within the latent space on the coordinates of cat, painting, and brown. But it also exists on every image of a painting, every image of a cat or anything with a cat on it, or cat like, and anything that is brown. It also exists on whatever else was in the image. Such as if the cat was outside on grass, or inside on a couch, or pouncing at a bird, knocking stuff off of tables, or eating. When you prompt for 'a paiting of a brown cat' the end result is subject to being anything that was associated to paintings, cats, or the color brown.
@831Miranda
@831Miranda 3 ай бұрын
Very good overview of the situation! I'm not a professional artist, I dabble in various types of arts and crafts for pleasure. In my view, * everything * you listed as a proposal for economic compensation or mitigation of the relentless automation of human labor by any type of machine should be implemented immediately and probably retroactively! That is, it is NOT only artists that are feeling and fearing becoming ' economically obsolete' - think of all of the work force to date who has been inhumanely displaced by machines AND by the endless hunger of Capitalism for 'zero cost labor'. Ultimately it seems to me that the goal of AI development is just that. So YES, we must absolutely NOT sit by and create societies of desperate human beings - as we have done throughout history ( think of the so-called 'freeing of slaves' which left millions of people abandoned in society )! It's time that we make Capital and Government fully (not 75% ) accountable for their 'so called externalities...
@illustrationmaking
@illustrationmaking Ай бұрын
As an artist I haven’t been affected by this at all. I draw live, and people have said it’s the humanity that I bring that is amazing. When illustrate books it’s the same thing, only more. If you embrace the human side, people value it. There are issues for those who are working in a bigger industry - film, concept, for example. I suspect it’s because I work for other creatives, and maybe that’s a solution. Ghettoise art as part of a self sustaining creative economy for those who value creativity. Even while music is just played - nightclubs - people still want to see live bands or artists play that same music because of the human connection.
@FluxNomad678
@FluxNomad678 3 ай бұрын
A.I. can have story, but as you put it, after many iterations or revisions by the human operator directing it, trying to coax story out of it. I think Art and Music also convey culture, which A.I. wont get. This makes think of how A.I. language tranlation will struggle with Localization.
@isajoha9962
@isajoha9962 3 ай бұрын
Autonomous ASI might (in the future) create whole sites within a fraction of a day filled with AI non copy protected art (images/videos/music etc), without using any human prompts. Like eg sites with more content than Spotify etc. Earning subscriptions that is used for creating more sites. Art = content and it might not even be necessary to store previously created art, it is just remake it each day or on command.
@silent6142
@silent6142 3 ай бұрын
How do people think the miners felt when the pits were closed? Their training and skill sets were distroyed overnight and nothing was available to protect their rights. As far as I can see these arguments revolve around elitism. AI will level the ground! I really enjoy this site thanks for sharing.
@DanHammonds
@DanHammonds 3 ай бұрын
Great comparison. It's exactly how it has hit me. I've specialised as a digital artist since my teens and now my life's work and training is rendered useless. I don't oppose AI or progress, but I really think the world leaders or AI companies need to come up with a way of supporting people affected by it.
@scottmcguirk4848
@scottmcguirk4848 3 ай бұрын
A.I. will level the ground? U.S. auto jobs lost to overseas and robots made a few people richer for cheaper to produce product. Detroit, Flint Michigan and other cities have been leveled. A.I is exciting but can’t dismiss loss of jobs.
@thothmark
@thothmark 3 ай бұрын
They need humans for direction regardless. The reason for this is because, they are only accessing our creative expressions. At any moment, there is a limit on the amount of data that can be accessed by A.I. The amount of data is dependent on the human experience.
@RichardLaurence
@RichardLaurence 3 ай бұрын
I would be very sad if I made my living from digital art or design. I think no matter what people think and feel about AI design and ‘art’, market forces (aka money) will force change. Businesses will always seek to reduce costs and most businesses’ highest cost is wages.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Market forces do as they will...
@keenheat3335
@keenheat3335 3 ай бұрын
that's the wrong way to look at it. You should be thinking yourself as a business owner that happen to sell art. The way a business can grow is either: sell to more customer, get more profit from each customer, reduce cost of producing art. AI art only occupy the last production cost part, customer acquisition and up sell still have bigger effect compare to just reduce cost. IE: if your business have very low gross margin, 8-10%, then reduce cost by 50% double your profit. But if you have a very high margin business like 90%, reducing your cost by 50% will only contribute to 5% increase in profit. So putting on your business owner hat for a second, if cost of produce art reduces via AI Art. You should be focus more of your effort on promoting your brand of AI art, instead of producing art. AI art just change the constraint of the art business. If artist can think like a business owner and refocus their effort on the right constraint, AI art is actually a help to the artist instead of hindrance.
@PierreChe
@PierreChe 3 ай бұрын
Great video as usual ! However I feel a more philosophical aspect of the conversation was missing. I think some of the resistance to AI art can be explained by the romantic idea humans (some of them at least ;P) like to nourrish, that we are special, that creativity is what separates us from animals. So suddenly, the idea that an AI can be better at art than humans goes against that romantic narrative. It goes as well for other things such as empathy and human compassion. I often have conversations with people who know only what the news tells them about AI, who keep trying to comfort themselves with the general idea "humans will still be special". And when I break it appart and show them that it might not be so, I can see the proper abyss of a deeper existential crisis in their eyes. A belief that breaks. For AI art, the economic aspect is indeed a massive one and the concept of copyright is a dying one. But the "human definition" linked to creativity is also a big one ^^. Thx again for the videos!
@antoniocabrero
@antoniocabrero 3 ай бұрын
You made me sound so smart haha Thanks for the shout out, Loved the video!
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts when I was researching this! Cheers.
@dangatH8
@dangatH8 3 ай бұрын
Is this comment in a particular video? I’ve been thinking about this “soullessness” of AI artistry. As in what exactly does it mean? Is the “beauty is truth, truth beauty” broken with AI art? Maybe it’s that individual coping with the mystery of being alive, I appreciate in art. Could AI get better at expressing an experience it’s only ever heard of and can’t have? AlphaGeometry shows it can seem to learn new things, which could be expressed more or less beautifully. But I don’t know if it could learn anything real about the human experience. I started watching your channel @Antonio and like your self-reflection of your process :) The 50/50 idea inspired me to start working with art again.
@antoniocabrero
@antoniocabrero 3 ай бұрын
@@dangatH8 I do believe that AI has the potential to learn sentiment and maybe even imagination. But if it does that then skynet will happen 😂 Thanks! I appreciate you checking it out, it served its purpose then. I wanted it to help people get back on their art journey 😇
@dangatH8
@dangatH8 3 ай бұрын
@@antoniocabrero I agree if AI does develop sentiments, and one is negative, it might see that as the foremost problem to solve 😂 I'm curious what you mean by "sentiment"? Do you think like opinions or moods or maybe consciousness? I can definitely see it getting imagination because of the "temperature" setting, where it can come up with really "out there" ideas when that parameter is increased. If it can then dial back down the temperature, it could use the prior generation as dream-like "inspiration". This part of Super Data Science podcast talks a little about getting creativity out of LLMs kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8mnZ7h01Mm6eHk.htmlsi=vMuT2f6p9mxvQIpe&t=4982
@antoniocabrero
@antoniocabrero 3 ай бұрын
@@dangatH8 I would say all three 😅
@QueenMelissaOrd
@QueenMelissaOrd 3 ай бұрын
❤I love this I want to start an IA digital art Gallery
@QueenMelissaOrd
@QueenMelissaOrd 3 ай бұрын
My daughter is a digital artist 🎨 she makes it from Scratch but she also has used ai art generation too
@nani3209
@nani3209 3 ай бұрын
Dr. Waku, we are eagerly awaiting your next video, perhaps on AI agents and Sam Altman's 7 trillion chip vision.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Next one should be out today or Monday. I'll add your suggestion to my list, maybe you'll see it next week :)
@nani3209
@nani3209 3 ай бұрын
@@DrWaku 🙂
@Geen-jv6ck
@Geen-jv6ck 3 ай бұрын
Media is built atop the skeleton of old media, and AI has accelerated this process.
@szebike
@szebike 3 ай бұрын
I think if someone is artistic and can draw etc. he will still have a far better perfromance when he uses AI on a professional level than someone just relying on AI without a deeper atistic understanding. It just gets faster to the core of art which is in my opinion , the idea creation stage which is the most difficult part.
@vallab19
@vallab19 3 ай бұрын
Artist not only survive but thrive in millions in the era of AGI coming soon. However the artist who sell thier arts for a living will be totally replaced by the artist who will make their art content freely available for everyone. An unconditional guaranteed universal basic income generated by AI will make it happen for everyone provided there is a Political Will to do so.
@faroooook9999
@faroooook9999 3 ай бұрын
I like your videos man
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting :)
@jonmichaelgalindo
@jonmichaelgalindo 3 ай бұрын
In a post-scarcity world, money can act like views and likes. Everyone has infinite money, and yet somehow it's still valuable. Attention becomes valuable because we care about what people think.
@danielchoritz1903
@danielchoritz1903 3 ай бұрын
My understanding of art is, it is some kind of communication on a non-verbal plane. And if this is true, AI will with time "understand" art. A bit like translating a Chinese or Japanese novel into English or German. I still don't get it, why there is no option for the AI to ask some question before generating the image or clip etc. It would make the creative part faster and would train the model too. The understanding and learning effect would be better...maybe AI can't ask questions for now in a creative process for now? It will have to, make true art at some point, even if it begins asking himself first or only.
@bradleyeric14
@bradleyeric14 3 ай бұрын
Not sure about 'democratised'.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Lol it's good marketing in a democracy
@ryannichols5352
@ryannichols5352 2 ай бұрын
AI changes the metrics of a business, and in some cases the existence - in many directions. Fundamentally, AI pushes you to do more and become greater than what you are today. Things like complacency and laziness will lead to a person's demise.
@rafaelbaccin6595
@rafaelbaccin6595 3 ай бұрын
o homem do chapéu!
@tammielisa
@tammielisa 3 ай бұрын
Good artists copy, great artists steal. -Picasso
@lanedillon6365
@lanedillon6365 Ай бұрын
I'm taking a neutral stance on ai but I'm using it just for fun not for anything else but I am also learning other ways of art including sketch and painting
@tranzorz6293
@tranzorz6293 2 ай бұрын
Ubi for artists. I wouldn't bank on it my friend. When all the blue collar jobs got cut back such as retail and miners, due to automation and other changes, they were forced onto the dole. I guess that's a kind of ubi but one where you get dehumanised and harrassed every week. No. The corporations will get richer and richer whilst the rest of us will end up in poverty. Kinda like the film, elysiium
@AI-Wire
@AI-Wire 3 ай бұрын
UBI should be available to everyone. Not just artists.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. It may be easier to start with just artists in certain (ahem American) jurisdictions though, in my opinion
@AI-Wire
@AI-Wire 3 ай бұрын
@@DrWaku Okay. Then how would that work? Would anyone be able to claim to be an "artist?" Or would there be some form of "gatekeeping?" Great work on your channel, BTW! Keep it up!
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
The simplest way is tax returns. If you can prove that you made money as an artist in the past, you'd be eligible for the subsidies. The government already knows how you make your money, in theory.
@AI-Wire
@AI-Wire 3 ай бұрын
@@DrWakuI know your intentions are well-meaning but this is an excellent example of why our tax code is over 75k pages, growing and incomprehensible to everyone. It's also relatively easy to imagine how people would "game" such a system.
@travisporco
@travisporco 3 ай бұрын
Too many people try to seem smart by spitting on the amazing new technology.
@RexelBartolome
@RexelBartolome 3 ай бұрын
I'm a 3D animator now but came from being a 2D artist. I know a fair bit of Stable Diffusion, I paint with it, 'collab' with it, and I finish my work faster because of it. One aspect of this conversation that's a bit confusing is what 'type' of art are we talking about when we discuss these things. We don't necessarily think about the logos, branding, promotional materials when we're talking about "art" but they certainly count. I feel like we're more so talking about the art that's seen on a canvas OR an artists depiction of an in-game skin/cosmetic, etc. And that distinction of "oh, the art im talking about are the anime girls with large honkers, not the art that have any sociopolitical commentary or anything" kind of muddies the conversation a bit. But regardless of any of these arguments for/against AI art, social welfare and providing a financial safety net for the ones affected by automation is NEEDED and we need to figure it out FAST. I know enough about the trajectory of AI image generators capabilities to understand that the future looks grim for 2D art right now and I just hope the public outcry from this pressures governments to think more about social welfare.
@michaelbone6894
@michaelbone6894 3 ай бұрын
Copyright law applies to creations of a high degree of similarity to specific existing works. It doesn't relate to styles, inspiration, training, transformations or fusions. Why? Because that would kill creativity. Creativity is essentially the novel fusion of existing styles, techniques and concepts. Any law against training AI on existing art isn't a Copyright law. It's a new law that needs a new word.
@ChipWhitehouse
@ChipWhitehouse 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I’m a traditionally trained artist (went to art school and studied oil painting) & I paint traditionally and digitally. I am definitely in the minority because I am not threatened or upset at AI art whatsoever. That’s probably because I see the bigger picture. A lot of artists are terrified but it’s only because they’re viewing themselves through a Capitalist lens. I also know that artists don’t have to worry because soon, everyone will be affected just like we are and UBI is bound to happen. I know it might be a struggle for a bit, but there is no way around it. I just have a deep knowing that AI is a natural part of our human evolution and it’s a change we can’t avoid and should look forward to!We have to face and accept it and see all the incredible potential AI has rather than keeping such a narrow view and coming at it from a place of fear. We also need to get out of this selfish mindset of hoarding ideas and treating everything we do like Gollum and his “precious ring”. AI is really connecting all of us by taking all of our knowledge, rearranging it, building upon it, finding new connections that maybe we’ve missed. Imagine if we all worked together and shared ideas openly how fast humanity would improve. Well that’s what AI is doing ultimately, and it’s a good thing. It’s going to force us to look at society and how we exist within it fundamentally. We are LONG overdue for change and AI is forcing that change and I, for one, welcome it! Thanks for the video! 👏👏👏💖💕🙌
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your perspective! I'm glad it matched a lot of what I was saying in the video. Appreciate the comment too
@asiovector
@asiovector 2 ай бұрын
This is a nice perspective only if you see art like a hobby, an interest, a passion. But for those that work in the industry it is inevitable to think under a capitalistic lens. Beside that, even in my best optimistic perspective the coming of ASI will let us in a deep crisis.
@JimmyMarquardsen
@JimmyMarquardsen 3 ай бұрын
I am an AI artist. And I have this to say to all other artists: If you want to make money from your art in the future, you will have to do your art in different ways than I do...because my art is free.
@hammerandthewrench7924
@hammerandthewrench7924 3 ай бұрын
many of you ‘artists’ sell your work tho. so this is a lie.
@JimmyMarquardsen
@JimmyMarquardsen 3 ай бұрын
@@hammerandthewrench7924 But I don't. So this is not a lie. And I only have laughter left for people like you. This is true.
@jurajhadzala951
@jurajhadzala951 Ай бұрын
You do what you want, dont call it art tho
@JimmyMarquardsen
@JimmyMarquardsen Ай бұрын
@@jurajhadzala951 But I call it art and I don't care what you think about it.
@beaverson
@beaverson 25 күн бұрын
This all makes me so depressed.. What's the point in my life in society? My skill and passion are more and more meaningless..
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 23 күн бұрын
If you are set on being an artist, I wouldn't abandon what you love. The future is uncertain at this point. But you may need to think about another skill to put food on the table as well.
@vallab19
@vallab19 3 ай бұрын
The Intellectual property laws will become redundant in the coming AI era, one should embrace it instead of fighting it.
@ChurchofCthulhu
@ChurchofCthulhu 3 ай бұрын
Only mediocre artists are threatened by AI.
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
Because it evolves so quickly though, it won't be long before even the best are threatened
@user-eh9jo9ep5r
@user-eh9jo9ep5r 3 ай бұрын
Exist huge difference between respect bounduaries, and respect income(and not yours income) by hiding behind bounduaries that protected by low and rights. Not everyone can get access to rights and to laws, just because it is not beneficial to some groups. And if it is some countries are easy to get rights in other countries groups try to limitate access to rights because of possible income. And the things actually not in the income by itself, they just trained to not give access to income to others from childhood, and it lead to huge disproportions around planet. Need carefully research what lead to thriving and what lead do degradation in all sorts of the things, because of this type logic.
@R.E-O
@R.E-O 3 ай бұрын
An artist or any other person losing their source of income because of AI should not be treated more favorably than a random person losing their job because it was not environmentally sustainable or for any other completely different reason. All unemployed deserve the same support from society. The fact that AI is involved doesn't make it a special case.
@zampination
@zampination 3 ай бұрын
Not quite... Not all skills need the same time and effort to acquire them... UBI for everyone i agree but for a violinist that took him 10-20 years to start performing well and then start getting revenue from his craft while a McDonald's employee only needed a couple of hours of training... Not the same... And that goes to many different jobs. A doctor needed 10 years of training as well give or take and the conversation can go on and on if we start comparing jobs etc. As i said though, i agree with you, UBI for everyone but if we one day decide to add some more revenue on top of UBI to some skillsets then of course the more difficult ones should get a higher revenue than the easy ones...
@m_sedziwoj
@m_sedziwoj 3 ай бұрын
"without acknowledgment or compensation" let me ask, do you do this when human is learning on online art? No? So why AI should? Because is not human? For me when is in public it should have same rights to be use no matter if you are human with black, yellow or white skin or if you are program or AI, but I see that discrimination to AI is already norm... yeah, dystopian movies are one step closer.
@m_sedziwoj
@m_sedziwoj 3 ай бұрын
For me person which produce millions of images per year is not artis, he is worker, art is art, and should not be created by specification. And many "artists" wil lose job, because what they created is not see as art, because who created it is not important. And as in time of Industrial Revolution, people will lose job, and they will complain, but is not problem as society, and should not limit progress because is bad for all others, and there is more people which profit from this, than which lose. And it will (IMO) make real artist more important. It is funny how many saying "is complicated" when if you think logically without emotion it is simple. Nobody cry when horses go to butcher when cars change them, and many people lose they job (smiths). Same should be here, but today people are to disconnected from reality, and have too much power to select worst option for society.
@GregtheGrey6969
@GregtheGrey6969 3 ай бұрын
I made a duck cane. Ai doesn't bother me.
@Beerbeerosa
@Beerbeerosa 3 ай бұрын
Omg, free income, what crapy conclusion after all !
@paulhiggins5165
@paulhiggins5165 3 ай бұрын
The core fallacy here is the implict idea that AI Art generators are a totally transparent medium through which their users ideas are faithfully transmitted- yet we know that there is no such thing as an unbiased AI, so this notion of transparency is more wishful thinking than reality. Once you realise that AI art Generators are themselves prone to bias in their outputs and combine this with the reality that the ratio of human input into any given AI image is quite limited, with most of the 'creative' decisions being made by the AI rather than the operator, the outcome seems inevitable. That outcome being that- as AI comes to dominate the creative landscape- that landscape will become increasingly homogenised and level, shorn of the peaks and troughs of human diversity. It should be obvious that a technology that operates on the basis of statisical weighting will always and everywhere trend toward the average. If we allow AI to destroy the economic viability of human creativity we are condemning ourselves to a future in which our culture becomes an ever more homogenised and mediocre parody of the vibrant diversity upon which the AI's themselves were trained.
@Cordovan
@Cordovan 2 ай бұрын
pretty disingenuous to imply that an AI somehow can "recall" art it was trained on as if it was somehow stored inside
@GnaReffotsirk
@GnaReffotsirk 2 ай бұрын
I dont think models are capable of reproducing perfectly. The algorithm doesnt allow it, as the images produced are always weighted between many other images.
@MrPiperian
@MrPiperian 3 ай бұрын
There's no such thing as Government Funding.
@user-eh9jo9ep5r
@user-eh9jo9ep5r 3 ай бұрын
If this partial information will be not in touch how correctly eran money or make things, that you doing for achieve good quality life, it will lead to not the better future and not incrase good quality life around planet. Many humans do not know logics that lead to thriving, like correct steps to achieve what you want, and they not want to ask others because they are trained not for give you thrive. They just limit access by creating many strategies, scenarious and little stories for create misleading. And this disproportion in wants and possibilities, access to knowledge, create low payment market with a lot humans who are live not like they want, and a lot humans who try to use those humans in their gains. It is like free access to knowledge how easily get access to correct steps which everyone know and access to basic income. Maybe things will be changed for those who want to achieve something, but it is not let to create peaceful life out of people with type logic for get down someone.
@neurojitsu
@neurojitsu 3 ай бұрын
I am really torn by the AI movement. AI "could" be a force for positive change, but regulation is too slow to make it so. The default is AI for profit, and as you point out "democratisation" is just a cloaking word for parasitic technologies that leverage data at scale: the so-called surveillance economy runs on big data, which does the opposite of democratising because democracy entails choice and rights.
@Bvic3
@Bvic3 3 ай бұрын
When in your intro you use the words "preserve the dignity" all is said. This is the language used for euphemisms when mentioning The Useless Ones, the holy diversity.
@TheReginadistracci
@TheReginadistracci 2 ай бұрын
In the last two years, I have tried to watch all the videos concerning the controversy of AI art. In the videos supporting AI art, I have noticed some universal constants. First, enthusiastic supporters of AI art accuse artists who are against it of being reactionary Luddites who hate progress, who cannot adapt to changes, and thus deserve to finally look for a real job (but fortunately, the author of this video spares us from this idiotic argument). Second, AI art "democratizes" art and punishes the pride of those presumptuous individuals who think they are special just because they can draw something. Third, ALL supporters of AI art admit to either not being artists at all or being mediocre artists. No one, I repeat, no one of the supporters of AI art is a recognized great artist, and vice versa, no recognized great artist (if there is still one today) speaks in favor of AI art. I haven't found one, so if you have found one, please let me know. In short, I believe that Michelangelo, Rembrandt, Picasso, and all the other great geniuses of the past, if they were alive today, wouldn't even consider using midjourney or DALL-E 2, and would leave that to the "fools." Setting aside the huge problem of copyright, I personally believe there is no need to forbid AI art. Let it thrive. When every corner of the web is polluted with images that are only seemingly beautiful but actually empty, boring, and repetitive (like the latest Disney movies), people with good taste will be so nauseated that they will start demanding real art from the market. What are the characteristics of real art? Many, too many. The most important: real art must bear the fingerprints and DNA traces of a unique, unrepeatable individual. P.S. The idea that AI art "democratizes" art, that copyright is a thing of the past, and that true artists should be paid by the state to do nothing is a COMMUNIST idea that also smells like Brave New World. For the record, similar ideas emerged during the Jacobin Terror period in the aftermath of the French Revolution when copyright on books was abolished. The result: no one wrote books anymore out of fear of not being able to earn from them, so the authorities were forced to reintroduce it. The fact that Japan has abolished copyright doesn't surprise me: there, anime and manga artists are treated borderline as slaves. But these are just my very imperfect and very wrong thoughts on the matter. I don't want to offend anyone; I just hope to stimulate some reflection.
@QueenMelissaOrd
@QueenMelissaOrd 3 ай бұрын
I'm more concerned with biological copying Its a massive issue in Australia 🇦🇺 lots of foster kids are cloned
@Bivanqw
@Bivanqw 2 ай бұрын
Ironic that youre talking about artist issues and youre using AI for this
@DrWaku
@DrWaku 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Well, because of the health condition with my hands I wouldn't be able to be an artist without AI. So I'm one of the few that strongly benefits from AI art. That doesn't mean I can't see the downsides, especially because automation will affect everyone eventually.
@Bivanqw
@Bivanqw 2 ай бұрын
@@DrWaku When you started to use AI, theres pretty much no going back. Likely wise, if AI worker salary is quite compatible to the artist, there is almost no reason to hire artist to work and have risk for them to complain about company on the internet. Pretty much any art theory, perspective, and art style can be seen and learn in observing sense, and do it by AI workers. You starting to use and having that as an excuse defeats the purpose of people defending AI for art already. you are no difference
@shallmow
@shallmow 3 ай бұрын
Farmerchads stay winning lol
@barbi111
@barbi111 3 ай бұрын
Japan did NOT allowed AI art.
@barbi111
@barbi111 3 ай бұрын
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@DrWaku
@DrWaku 3 ай бұрын
I suppose being allowed to train and being allowed to use AI throughout society are different matters
@RisenPhoenix68
@RisenPhoenix68 3 ай бұрын
"Democratize", not "liberate". It means that the corporations never need to work with real artists ever again. None of those nasty artists will ever be able to demand that they are paid higher because of the skills that they had to hone over years. This is just like the people that hired their college aged cousin to throw together a sign in Photoshop instead of hiring a sign company to do it. "Cheapens" is not the word.
@smilerdude4704
@smilerdude4704 Ай бұрын
Artists won't survive ai art I'm sorry to say this
@deliritori
@deliritori 3 ай бұрын
I usually don't comment on this subject. But, the idea that AI "democratizes" art seems odd to me. Art has Always been available to those who wish to do it. I mean cavemen drew things with sticks and crude pigments. Pencil and paper gives you access to art, but I suppose there are those who simply don't wish to acquire skill. Next, the argument that artists today are "Inspired" by artists of the past are doing the same thing that AI does is not true at all. The state of being inspired is a human function that is filtered by an individuals unique perspective. AI gathers bits of data and arranges it into a somewhat cohesive image. AI doesn't Think or experience and verbal prompts are nothing more than parameters. There is no actual artistic process that can be attributed to an AI image. Finally, AI, so far, can't create the image "I see in my head" it would merely be the best approximation of the prompter's vision. This could only lead to a "Close enough" mediocrity and bland apathy toward creating anything lacking the appreciation of Skilled craftsmanship which can endure generations, like the artists of the past. The images produced are fun to look at but ultimately forgetable. Now, if an artist needed a reference image or something along those lines then I can see AI as being a great option.
@fuwingpang5445
@fuwingpang5445 3 ай бұрын
They had the same argument when photography was invented.
@CanadianSmitty
@CanadianSmitty 3 ай бұрын
AI is just another tool. Just another brush. Just another type of camera lens. Just another type of medium....period. The value of art is dictated by the consumer. Some consumers will pay exorbitant amounts of money for a masterpiece. Others go to Ikea and pay next to nothing and get wallpaper art. The most important thing about art is...does it say something? Does it communicate a relevant and important message? How many people do you know had a portrait of themselves painted? Photographers took that role. Then when cameras became available to the masses, uncle Joe took a snap shot at your wedding and you got a print or printed it yourself at home. Then hung it on your wall. Totally bypassing the artist painter and photographer. AI art generators are just other tools. Embrace it or get left behind.
@netizencapet
@netizencapet 2 ай бұрын
The tragedy of so many technological revolutions is the triumph of a cheaper but inferior substitute. The world will never see again the refinement of high Gothic, Aztec, Karnatic temple façades, will never again see the sartorial magnificence of Jacobean embroidery, of Qing dynasty dragon robes, the list is endless. The cheaper substitute effaces the recognition & taste for the displaced, superior human craft. That's the true tragedy of this 5,000 year tower of Babel project our species has undertaken.
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