the last person in the world we need to listen to is the former CEO of Ticketmaster

Won't someone, anyone, pity this poor former Ticketmaster CEO who would never hear or feel the train in a tunnel but would have to live with the horrible idea of knowing that people poorer than him would have the ability to save time in their lives and be transported efficiently in a tunnel multiple stories below his home which he paid for by scamming poorer people with exorbitant ticketing fees as they tried to just enjoy life through entertainment.

The reason these projects take so long is BECAUSE of people like Fred Rosen, who force needless litigation, environmental impact reports, all which both delay construction and raise costs. He probably knows this though, so he's being disingenuous.

No one asked for permission to build the highway through the redlined districts... oh, but now it's a problem...

Fred Rosen is 80. Why are we letting individuals that don't even care about the future influence a process that can benefit so many? A monorail would be over capacity on the first day and people are not going to rely on luck everyday to get to work. It should not even be an option.

It's ridiculous to even give airtime to someone who has zero relevant credentials for comments on a project's suitability. It's even worse that it's the slimy ex-CEO of one of the most despised companies in the world.

anything to make rich people unhappy is a win in my book

If they deny public transit then take their land via eminent domain. Tired of the wealthy elites dictating how horrible our already miserable lives have to be e.

3:15 The final boss of Nimbies

Ironic that Rosen’s criticism of transit is that it is always expensive and delayed, when the reason it’s always expensive and delayed is specifically because of people like Rosen!

Hell no! NIMBYS in Beverly Hills and Holmby Hills tried to stop both the D and E line extensions and failed.

Heavy rail will eventually be built but because of lawsuits against the environmental reports will take much longer and be much more costly because of inflation

Only a brilliant mind like Fred Rosen can complain about projects coming in over budget and late, and also threaten legal action that makes projects add unnecessary cost and time. The ONLY benefit monorail has is cost, and even then if you really dig in to the fact that it is not an inherently upgradeable technology, you find out just to match heavy rail's capacity, the costs are equal. You are irresponsible for presenting this information as if they are equal.

Imagine living with the 24/7 ear rape of living next to a highway but complaining about the rollout of a train which only makes noise when it occasionally passes by.

It's the same wealthy people of Westside L.A. vs the public interest all over again... Then again it's a never ending battle when you are that rich and paranoid... As the old saying goes, when you are a hammer everything looks like a nail.... Heavy Rail with tie ins with the existing system would be ideal/the only way to go...

Rich people in Bel Air speak like someone who's never lived above a subway tunnel....these tunnels will literally be so deep, an airplane flying overhead or a semi truck driving by will make more noise.

Fred Rosen just wants to tie it up in litigation until he’s no longer around, knowing full well it’ll go ahead eventually

You should not be able to stop or delay these kinds of project's unless there is SERIOUS PROBABLE CAUSE. More so these projects are future proofed. Why should someone who's days are numbered stop a project that'll be aeound even when his great great great grandchildren are around??

These people can litigate all they want but they're never held responsible for the cost increases that result from the senseless delays they impose on everyone else.

Basically saying "How dare you try and make an obvious improvement to the area where I live? I will waste tons of money just fighting against this." -- what an embarrassing and ridiculous attitude

If the CEO of Ticketmaster didn't say anything, they probably would have been able to bury this. But the fact that he said this that way on the record, its ammunition for Californians to support the project, even if its just to stick it to the rich people of Bel Air. If they have a station in Bel Air, that will be the end of that exclusive community as we know it since you are allowed to densify near stations.

I mean here's another thing they could do heavy rail but elevated. And it'd be somewhat cheaper than building it underground. And it would have more capacity than a monorail.

The rich people are just worried you'll find their secret bunkers okay 😂 But like I said, there's always elevated heavy rail. A Subway doesn't have to be underground.

You can't widen the 405 any further. And it's usually terrible.

i wish they could curtail or minimize all this red tape that drives costs up.

Monorail was a joke even before The Simpsons.

Let's put Fred Rosen on the first flight to Mars, alone, as soon as possible. Then we can get on with building much needed transit in America's second largest city.

The I-405 freeway has been a total mess for decades. I used to live in the San Fernando Valley in Van Nuys and I worked at the VA in West LA. I fought that traffic plus accidents for many years. Even with the HOV lanes has not helped that much. Instead of the former CEO of Ticketmaster how about a geologist taking a look at the area and determining if a subway would cause any damage to the hills above. Get a person who is familiar with the area and knows about it. When the Metro Rail B Line (Red Line) was built from Hollywood to North Hollywood there was not any earth problems because of it. The problem is the residents of Bel Air are self centered and really don't care much more about themselves and their maids who probably also drive nice cars. The 405 freeway has to change, it is very unfair for people driving to UCLA, the VA and other areas of West LA from the San Fernando Valley. A monorail simply will not work with the current Metro Rail system. A monorail will end up being more of a tourist attraction than anything else.

heavy rail doesn't have to be underground. you can build it elevated or at ground level for less money than a monorail.

Build the rail in the middle of the freeway, if the fast lanes are in the way, remove them. Induced demand will solve the problem

It’s always the rich NIMBYs

Tunneling is expensive. A monorail is PERFECTLY capable of handling commuters if it runs on a frequent basis, and it looks glamorous. This obvious solution has been staring us in the face for 50 years.

Why can’t they just do the heavy rail, but above ground along the 405 for as long as possible?

Doubt local residents can stop the tunnel if it gets funded. Opponents delayed the North Hollywood tunnel for several years but ultimately it got hilt and no issues noted.

God forbid someone builds a train lol

A light rail (even a light rail with heavy rail characteristics) would be obsolete the day it's built. So would a monorail. The line should be a light metro like Skytrain in Vancouver, a rubber-tired metro like in Montreal or a regular subway like the B and D trains. But this Rosen character, who claims property values would plummet, does not acknowledge that there are already wealthy neighborhoods in Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, and Miami that have underground and elevated subway lines running underneath them or right through or next to them. That being said, it astounds me that the planners didn't foresee this and provided alternate routes for the subway under, over, or next to the 405 expressway.

Screw Bel Air - why should that stop millions of people access to ride necessary transit around the city. This is stupid that rich people decide what goes where in a city the majority of people rely on public transit. It currently takes 2+ hours just to get across from West LA to Sherman Oaks. That's insane to be on a bus just traveling 10 miles.

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If Bel Air residents block this subway, it will be an epic NIMBY victory worthy of it’s own movie.

Although I hate Mr. Ticketmaster bullshit complaints, he's probably right that a mars landing may come quicker than the end of sepuvelda line subway construction. When is the completion date supposed to be, 2035?

One option is to turn to the state legislature to nullify the whims of the tiny white 1% on inequity. Overturn hyper-local unfairness in the legislature.

Just bring back the Red Car!

As much as I love railways, they are point to point. Linear. So unless someone’s home is walking distance to a station and their destination is walking distance from a station, a car is door to door and you have no chance of getting the majority off that freeway. Simple fact of life.

"Costing between $9 to 14 Billion dollars in early estimates" translates unequivocally to "$49 to 114 Billion dollars by the time the project is finished. In 2064."

There are a couple of issues regarding the building of a monorail there. First, parts may not even exist in a few years to run a monorail, if what's happening with the monorails in Las Vegas and at Walt Disney World (and potentially Disneyland, though that's a much shorter line) are any indication, because those monorails may eventually go out of business because the parts needed to run and maintain them may no longer even exist in a few years. The other major reason is the history of that part of the Los Angeles area. Where they're planning to build that rail line is real close to Sylmar and Northridge, the epicenters of major earthquakes in 1971 and 1994, respectively. And the Northridge earthquake leveled parts of the I-10 viaduct over downtown Los Angeles. Building something like that on an elevated platform in that part of Los Angeles is a TERRIBLE idea, just based on history. The only type of rail line that might work is a heavy rail line that can go underground.

Why can't they just do heavy rail but lay the tracks on the existing cement, it would be built quicker and save billions.

This man is insane. He will never happen. Rosen will not live to see this thing HAPPEN.

Given how much NIMBYism has delayed the long planned Purple (D) Line subway from seeing the light of day… And the overwhelming likelihood that Bel-Air will put up a comparable fight as Beverly Hills’ NIMBYs did… Can’t they just simply route the proposed subway to parallel I-405 much more directly as opposed to going directly under Bel-Air? Or even have part of said subway slightly west of I-405 primarily to avoid Bel-Air as much as possible between UCLA & Sherman Oaks? They’re likely several years away from construction, yet it seems Bel-Air in particular is already prepared to play hardball as things currently stand.

You can build elevated heavy rail. It even makes sense to do it along a freeway like that, rather than needlessly build a subway in an area that has large single family homes. BART runs sections that are above ground and underground as the need dictates. Monorail can be used in denser urban settings as less expensive feeder lines that connect to heavy rail stations.

L.A. is crime ridden which is a big obstacle to ridership.

That’s more of a Shelbyville idea.

These old rich people are living in the past. We need these rail lines. And I cannot wait for the Wilshire subway to open next year. It will be amazingly convenient.

All the rail companies need to do is to offer a first class option that is truly first class 😉

who in their right mind still thinks overengineered mono rails will solve the problem? You need high capacity higher speed trains

omg one more lane 1 more lane bro

The Beijing - Shanghai railway, 819 miles, was built in three years.

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adding one more lane that would already be at capacity ✅ building a light rail system that will already be at capacity🤔

Just make sure there are no intermediate stations anywhere near Bel Air. If poor people can't emerge into his creepy neighborhood then what's his problem? Tunnel boring machines don't cause much disruption during construction. Just mandate use of TBMs instead of blasting.

Wouldn't the fact that Metro prevailed over the objections of Beverly Hills School District over the tunneling beneath the BH High School have set a legal precedent here? I assume that the tunneling beneath Bel Air will be much deeper.

Really glad you laid out the benefits of both alternatives. On the one hand, heavy rail would provide the capacity needed to effectively serve this corridor while simultaneously having a meaningful impact on reducing traffic, pollution, and commute times. On the other hand, you have monorail, which is cool because it's a monorail. Man, such a tough choice! /s

The monorail is just a stupid idea and their planned route for the subway is going to be wildly expensive. The smart thing to do would be to run a metro along one of the planned monorail routes and be done with it. You'd get the capacity a metro brings to the table at a reasonable price by avoiding expensive tunneling.

The fact that rich people care one bit about a subway line that will travel beneath them and won’t even notice it says a lot. You’d think that they wouldn’t care as long as they don’t have to hear the train running.

It will NEVER happen. I've lived here for 40 years in the Valley near that photo where they propose to put a station above Sepulveda Blvd. They can talk and talk all they want, they'll fight this to the end. It also won't help with reducing traffic congestion on the 405 anyway

I will support the idea instead of oppose to it

Heres an Idea, build two overhead lines the cross over the bel air highway. One over head line goes south the other followa the same route but turns East after reaching Hollywood. The capacity issue is gone and you now have two directions to continue extending in the future. Also, monorail is dumb if you want to hit high speed and connect these lines to the other lines in LA.

Just build the railway on top or beside the highway. Done.

Unfortunately in LA public transit are for the elderly, those on social assistance and the least affluent just at the poverty line. Until that cultural belief of that being the only communities that should be on the public transit changes these schemes will never undo gridlock. You add lanes and the day it is opened they are congested worse then before. There is a book called traffic that explores traffic planning in great detail. As an example of the cultural bias against public transit: I was spending a summer vacation at my Aunts in Pasadena and I got on a bus two stops to the mall (walking distance but I didn't know that at the time) and was the only Caucasian on the bus. IO also weight about half of what most of the color women weighed.. When My aunt, whom I was staying with found out I took a bus she was so horrif3d she rented a car for the month that I stayed there and told me I would never be invited back if I ever took public transit again!

Can't you just add more trains to the monorail to increase capacity?

why not elevated heavy rail??

Eat the rich, build the subway.

If they say no to the train then they don't deserve water from the Delta. Go dig your own damn wells

Looking cool is the last reason to do anything. Heavy rail is the right answer. Otherwise you'll be redoing it.

Pittsburgh is getting rid of its billion dollar rail infrastructure piece by piece, starting with the Silver Line. Already on the chopping block.

*Did you say monorail?*

NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard BANANA = Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything

in 50 years oil will be gone just think and laugh what gas is going to cost in 10 years

I mean if we can make oligarchs sad, I'm with it.

Why not build both monorail and heavy rail?

Lite Rail Will Help, Ementsly

pity for the nimby 😭

They won’t stop it, but legal fees will cost many millions. Thanks wealthy los angelinos

Rich NIMBYs: the world's greatest scourge.

No

Thanks again 1% for proving that putting The Greater Good above your own self-centered desires is dead

3:22 disgusting

Why would the filthy rich care about cost overruns for a system they will never use!?😂

Abso-f'n-lutely they will

Ring the God damn Bell 🔔 🎉

I have an idea. After Expo / Sepulveda we have the E Gold Line turn to run on a new double tracked light rail line along the I405 before than taking over the planned East San Fernando Valley light Rail route. And this would act as an extension of the E gold line, giving San Fernando valley residents a one seat ride into Downtown LA. As for Santa Monica residents, you will not be forgotten. Although you will loose direct service to Downtown LA, All stations between Expo / Sepulveda and Santa Monica on the current Expo Line would receive a new shuttle light rail service called the L (Santa Monica Shuttle) This will include Expo / Sepulveda getting a new turnaround track to the stations east to turn around these shuttle services out of the way of the E Gold Line which will now run from the new Line from San Fernando Valley. This is just my proposal. It is noted that although Santa Monica could keep direct service to Downtown, it will significantly reduce capacity of this new line to San Bernadino, so based on the demand of people from both San Fernando and Santa Monica, I figured having the shorter Santa Monica section as the route for the shuttle line

I'm sorry but if you're over 80 years old your opinion on any project with a 10+ timeline should be considered irrelevant. Statistically Fred Rosen should've been dead four years ago -- so why are we giving him a platform to influence what happens in LA over the next decade? More importantly why are we letting a multimillionaire dictate the planning of a piece of infrastructure that he is multiple tax brackets away from ever needing to use?

Monorails don't work. They are too slow and don't have the capacity or throughput that heavy rai has. Even conventional LRT is preferable to a monorail. Aside from that, why wasn't a rail link considered when it was decided to widen the freeway. They could have built it in place of the extra lanes. But that would make sense.

LMAO

Giving billionaires a platform to complain about transit project that would improve the lives of hundreds of thousands is a waste of air time. Also, project take long and are over budget because deep pocketed billionaires fighting public infrastructure projects for reasons that make no rationale sense. But sure, treat them like legitimate actors and not the gated community vampires feeding if others that they are.

Humans need to develop methods to build faster

Isn't Elon going to build a one-lane one-way tiny taxi tunnel? Sooooooooon At no cost because Elon will sell the dug up mud as building bricks to finance the project. We believe in Elon, don't we?

We had to deal with these monorail clowns in Seattle. $200 million was spent with nothing to show for it.

How about a bus lane on the 405. Thats one solution

eat the greedy rich 😊

i look forward to rosen wasting his money enriching lawyers for no reason