The Prager impersonation was spot on 😂

I’d be shocked if either of them converted honestly

Would be interesting if Shapiro and Prager all of a sudden convert. Lol

I would love Dennis to be on Pints With Aquinas. He is one of the reasons I stopped being an apostate and returned to the church.

Michael’s impressions are pretty great.

This perfectly shows something that became quite obvious to me, that before someone can be convince of Christianity, they first must see the problems in their own position. As long as someone feels they are on solid ground in their position, an alternative may look pretty strong, but they don't really see any reason to upend their worldview if it currently seems reasonably solid. When I was an atheist, before I could consider any religion, I had to first see how shaky atheism actually is. Prager needs to see why thinking you can achieve anything at all, let alone heaven, without God is faulty reasoning. Ben possibly needs to see the problems with the development of the Orthodox Jewish tradition, particularly after Christ. I'd also argue that its rather clear that, even if you don't accept Jesus as the messiah, the prophecies about the messiah point more clearly to the 1st century Roman empire than any other time, let alone to think he still hasn't come. It's not surprising that Jews at the time thought the messiah was coming and many false messiahs sprang up to take advantage. It was obvious to them that they were in the time of the messiah, given what scripture said.

Sounds like Dennis has a lot of pride and preoccupation with his own works that he needs to work through ;) Hearing Ben has been reading Aquinas and CS is honestly so sweet. Very heartening actually. I think Peterson is the first to convert of these Daily Wire lot thanks to his wife, but Ben is second most-likely. Such a bright young man. Let's pray for Dennis 😅

I cannot imagine a more disheartening thought than having to earn my salvation.

Great clip, good to know.

Been waiting for these two lads to do a combo piece

If Ben converts I can only imagine how happy he will be. I was an atheist my whole life until I finally accepted Jesus. I felt so dumb, looking for meaning everywhere only to find it was under my nose the whole time 😂

It’d be pretty funny if Ben converted before Prager

Michael should play Elf on a Shelf in Ben's office but with the Bible 🤣

Spot on Dennis Prager impersonation Michael 👏👏

Dennis Prager recognizing similarities between modern capitalism is Pelagian is quite insightful.

I really hope that these two amazing people are gonna be saved 🙏🏼✝️

Prager becoming Catholic would be a huge flex.

If Ben continues to collaborate with Bishop Barron, it's only a matter of time. Edit: Lots of confusion about Barron’s position on salvation, highly recommend reading Pope Benedict’s encyclical Spe Salvi. Barron shares the pope’s position articulated in the document.

If Ben and Dennis convert, it will definetly be a sign of the End times

Hahahahaha that impersonation was on point.

Mike's Praeger impression is dead on.

Bishop Barron could have been more direct in his interview with Ben a couple years back.

Michael's impression of Dennis was so spot-on

The Prager impression is perfect

Ben wouldn't convert 🤣

Prayers continue for Ben and all those who are seeking the truth .

Thumbs up from me just because of Michael Knowles' excellent impression 😂

Great impression of Prager! XDXDXD

Prager's reasoning is quite reminiscent of one of the characters in Lewis' "The Great Divorce."

As a Jewish Catholic I'm praying for them both! (And tell Praeger he can do godly works for The Kingdom if he wants. He will be rewarded & blessed).

Great anecdote about Dennis Prager! When he says he believes in "earning things," a Catholic should be ready to explain the Judeo-Christian soteriological view known by scholars as 'covenantal nomism.' We enter into covenant communion by grace alone (apart from meritorious works). But we stay -- indeed, we grow -- in covenant communion through persevering obedience. So, according to Scripture and Tradition, while initial salvation (by which the unjust are transferred from Satan's kingdom into God's, cf. Col 1:13) is sheer grace, final salvation (by which those who die in a state of grace are transfigured from "glory to glory," as they enter heaven) is a "misthos" (i.e., reward/wage, cf. Matt 20:8; 2 Cor 3:18).

great impression of Dennis lol

I would say Ben. But you need to go with facts, something similar to CC.

Lol great dennis impression

Pray for the Spirit to move and work in their hearts and minds.

Salvation cannot be earned because the imperfect can never achieve perfection. Especially taking into account that God is eternal and therefore eternally perfect. The perfection one would need to earn is retroactive which is obviously impossible. However why not point out to Prager that we do earn reward. Grace doesn't eliminate the idea of needing to work out your salvation, and there are plenty of scriptures that indicate reward based on your works.

That impression is spot on.

Prager could learn a lot from Jonah. He pouts at the end about the Ninevites repenting and God showing grace to them.

What are you saying man? I cannot understanding why the most of Christian’s want to convince others religious people to convert to their faith, and then they don’t, most of the time, search and try to understand and respect the other religions.

More interesting if you did a video about the liklihood of Peter Hitchens converting.

I am wanting to read the Summa. I am from a Jewish background, and when I studied natural law (at least the basics) it really resonated with me.

I really enjoy listening to what Jewish thinkers have to say, but Prager and Shapiro are two of my favorites. They are both very articulate and deep thinkers, and are always really good at not taking their pre-established worldview for granted (Prager more than Shapiro, but he's also older). But I especially love their respect for Christianity. It is unfortunately true that we Christians have not earned much respect from the Jews, but these two men are able to look past the offenses we've done against their people and see what Christianity has done for the world. I think they are also able to look seriously at how Christians did actually play a large role in helping the Jews, especially in the Holocaust. If you research The Righteous Among the Nations and investigate some of the people's stories, you will see that more than anybody else, it was Christians standing up for the Jews. Messianic Jews also look to countries where anti-semitism hasn't been as deeply rooted, and have been amazed at the love Christians have for the Jewish people there. Dr. Erez Soref at One For Israel and Michael Brown at Line of Fire have both talked about this. I think Dennis Prager's objection can easily be answered. Yes, you must earn heaven, but can you? Can you actually be good enough for a perfectly holy God? Socialism is known to destroy society, but would a doctor helping a needing patient who is unable to pay be a bad thing? We must be careful not to let our view of Capitalism (a great system) keep us from doing and receiving good, especially when it comes to those who need our kindness. Mercy in the hands of a fool is bad, because it will be exploited; but mercy in the hands of the wise is good. Is anybody more wise than God?

God's covenant with the Jews is eternal.

EVERY knee shall bow., Ben and Dennis included.

That is a ridiculously good Dennis Prager imitation.

I am neither Jewish nor Christian, I am Orthodox Hindu. As someone sort of outside the religious discussions and ideas of Abrahamic faiths, I found this to be quite interesting. I thought I would share my thoughts. I have some Christian friends, some Jewish friends, some Muslim friends, some Hindu, and even a Shinto friend. It is always interesting to be able to discuss our thoughts, how we view God, life, duties and responsibilities, etc. I believe that I am living a good life, doing good things, and I wish to be a good family man, and through serving others as a husband and father seek salvation with God in the end. My opinions and beliefs are aligned with the Vedas, the authority scripture (others are verifiably man made legal or social texts, I do not follow those only the Vedas). From discussions with Christians, I value a lot of the same things: I value the inherent importance of life itself, especially human life, I value family and marriage, I value monogamy and togetherness, I value tradition and prayer, I value hard work, and I value leaving things to God to help me and guide me through life. However, these friends have also kindly asked if I may wish to convert. I listened to their positions as a way to understand their thoughts and opinions, however made it clear that I believe I am doing right and wish to live as I am. I have respect for the level of self control and moral responsibility that Christians and Catholics, Jews, and fellow Hindus of my ilk, such as my father, have, because they all have such good moral intentions and actions. If you live well as a Catholic, I am glad, I pray God is with you, and I know He is always loving and caring for us all. Same for those who live as Jews. Though I respect your beliefs and lifestyles, I have my own beliefs and lifestyles. I put down a clear line between us, however I am glad to shake hands and have a conversation regardless. I enjoyed this episode, it was quite interesting albeit I of course had trouble understanding some of the very detailed ideas you speak of due to my limitations on biblical knowledge. Regardless, I enjoyed it. Good day and God bless, I hope you are all well this Christmas and this New Year. 👋🏾

Remember Robert Novak converted after his wife converted to Catholicism. A friend once told him that "eternity is a long time to be wrong!" He converted shortly afterward. 😇

I’ve heard Ben say he thinks the messiah will be a political leader. Pretty shocking. 😊

Don't convert them, we need the Judaic perspective.

Ironic people think Judaism and Christianity is so compatible, it's really not at all.

Now is not the time be confrontational with our Allies. We must stand together, defeat our foe, and settle our differences later.

man, this conversion thing really runs deep in two specific religions, huh?

There's a Spanish joke that says: What are 3 ways to waste water? _Throwing it in the ocean,_ _mixing it with wine,_ _and baptizing a Jew._

We Jews want to stay Jews!!! Leave us alone.

Your title is spelled incorrectly for Prager

The ultimate plot twist would be if Ben and Dennis both convert, *but* they become *Eastern Orthodox* instead of Roman Catholic, and instead of arguing about earned vs given grace or the divinity of Christ, the Daily Wire guys are arguing about filioque and the infallibility of the pope!

Just remember, it is the Holy Spirit that converts, so prayer is the main resource for the hope of these mens' conversions.

Ben Shapiro is a very faithful Jewish man

You can’t earn grace. However, I’d love to know the verse about Grace through works, I read the Bible but never read that only the opposite.

Pray for their conversion

More to the point, wilk it be Michael Knowles or Matt Walsh who goes to the mikveh first?

Is it converting to Christianity or Roman Catholicism?

The title is a lazy editorial error

I'd love to sit with Ben privately and show him why I am Christian from the scriptures. I often wonder what his responses would be, because I've talked with other Jewish individuals that had no response. The ones I talked to were quite frankly amazed that they missed some of the nuggets God placed in the Old Testament to direct us to Jesus. If Ben converted to Christianity it would be like Paul in modern day. The problem is Ben is he will debate his position ad nauseam until everyone is exhausted and he may not be right but at the end his wall is up and he wont budge on anything, but at least he will listen to the other person's perspective. Keep praying.

*_they_* are not our friends. Their faith is defined by declaring our savior to be a false prophet.

reading is useful but they must respond to grace when God bestows it pray and sacrificde for conversions

Really need some spell check for the titles

Sounds like Prager would most agree with Catholic or Orthodox Christian teachings and beliefs. As a Catholic I definitely believe in both faith based salvation and charity salvation. You do have to believe in Jesus but also be a morally good person and atone for your sins. That sounds like earning it to me!

Ben is too Loyal to the Jews, i doubt he will ever convert, but i hope he does, and comes to the full knowledge of the truth in Jesus Christ

❤🙏😇

Well bishop B blew a chance at planting a seed with that "privileged way" ambiguity.

What everyone, Dennis & Ben & all of us need to face ultimately is - Who Is Jesus of Nazareth? Everything else falls into place after Jesus.

Often men's material and worldly (honor, fame, status) success makes them closed to the idea of God because they "made it" without him. That's why Jesus said blessed are the poor in spirit. Pride destroys men and women.

Only God can draw a person to His Son. This is why it’s called Grace. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. John 6:44

Well if Alphonse Ratisbonne could convert anything is possible.

The bible explicitly says that you gain salvation by keeping the commandments. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

What about faith and work being necessary to get you to heaven?

They don't need to convert. Y'all need to convert.

My money will be on D. Prager.

Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro are great.

I hope we can pray for the conversion of Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro to the Catholic Church

I’ve actually got a decent response to Dennis Prager: if you don’t believe in grace through faith that is salvation and you want to earn yours, what makes that different from any other religion? What’s the difference between Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, etc.? All of these religions are always trying to work up to God and that you somehow have to do a certain amount of things to secure your seat with that god. Christianity is the only exception hence realizing that us, as imperfect humans, could never come close to God without God intervening on our behalf

Come on Ben. We’d be glad to have you.

Why should either of them convert. They are both honorable men of faith, who put messages out to the masses promoting Judeo-Cristian values and belief in G-D, and live their lives accordingly. If you wanna convert someone, start with the athiests who promote transgenderism, racial essentialism, and base materialism. Changing them would be far better for society than changing men like Ben or Dennis

GOD willing...both!! And the entireworld's population!! What a place earth would be if the entire world's people were Catholic! Lord Jesus..hear our prayers! Pray for conversions sweet Mother and St. Joseph.

Imagine if they convert..... To a Protestant denomination

I'll save you all the time. The answer is "no."

How is it that two Catholics are unaware that they don’t EARN their own salvation. Yes, there is grace, but what is the point of obedience to the commandments and confession of sins for repentance? “If ye love me, keep my commandments”. If one does not do these things one does NOT get to receive the grace that Jesus offers. Ergo, one EARNS salvation through grace. C’mon guys. Otherwise Catholics are the same as most Christian denominations… aka “accept Jesus as Lord and boom! You’re saved”. It doesn’t work like that.

Prager *

No.

none, saint paul explains it percefctly in his letters

If you're drowning in a lake and God comes over to lift you into the rescue boat would you say to him "NO, I'll only get into the boat once I've earned it! Look at all the good things I've done! I don't need your helping hand of grace!"

Dennis Prayer??????

How about dropping the idol worship of Jesus and and all false ideologies and religions? Jews have the Torah that was given in front of Millions of witnesses, why would they substitute it for anything false?

I'd put my money on Prager converting since he's currently a single man and his children are grown. Ben's whole family is Jewish and his kids go to a Jewish private school. In order to convert Ben he would have to be so fully convinced that he would be willing to uproot what his whole family believes.

The reason someone should reject Christianity isn’t the trinity, as all minds we know of are triune, being a consciousness, a subconsciousness, and the connection between them, it isn’t G-d being a man, it is torture of sinners. Islam has a less problematic view, but it’s still mostly torture, and therefore no moral human can support either of them without being a fraud.

Pray for Ben Shapiro to accept Christ and repent for blasphemy, witchcraft and abomination

Will Ben convert to Christianity? Unlikely. If anything, he would become a Messianic.

they should look up association of hebrew catholics. perfect place for people like ben and dennis.

I agree with Ben on a lot, but the one thing I know is that he is wrong about religion