Will Brexit Split the Labour Party?

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In this new Federal Trust video John Palmer and Brendan Donnelly review the state of the Conservative and Labour Parties after the recent by-elections. They conclude that both parties face challenges to their traditional identities. If Labour win the next General Election, the European issue will be a particular bone of contention within the Party's ranks.
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John Palmer was the European Editor of The Guardian and subsequently a Founder/Political Director of the European Policy Centre in Brussels. He is a Board Member of the Federal Trust.
Brendan Donnelly is the Director of the Federal Trust and a former Conservative MEP.
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@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Жыл бұрын
The Labour leadership shouldn't be trying to compete with the Tories in backtracking on emissions legislation, let alone on net zero commitments.
@Purple_flower09
@Purple_flower09 Жыл бұрын
Labour doesn't need to go so far to the right in order to get elected. Starmer needs more courage. On the EU question Starmer has had nothing of merit to say so far.
@CockWomble1000
@CockWomble1000 Жыл бұрын
He’s saving that manifesto. The best till last. He’s not daft
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg Жыл бұрын
Starmer has nothing of substance to say on anything. Fact.
@michaelgoss9606
@michaelgoss9606 Жыл бұрын
Another good and interesting talk. I have a sixth sense that by the late spring of next year and I have had it for some time, that Brexit will be intensely unpopular. Notably with the TCA agreements kicking in , in October and January next. Thanks for the talk.
@andrewblewett2300
@andrewblewett2300 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent discussion and analysis. Thank you. This LP member is very pro EU and very green. I see no other route to sustainable progress economically. Probably like many I am hoping that Starmer will open the door and at least create the conditions for joining the EU, even if it requires another leader to do it… anyone who thinks Europe has « gone away » is seriously mistaken. It never will. For right or left, or centre. Successful positive engagement is the only solution.
@federaltrust
@federaltrust Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@indricotherium4802
@indricotherium4802 Жыл бұрын
You'll be lucky if the Labour leadership don't include brexit among a legion of pressing issues which they will claim aren't the real priority or they haven't got time for.
@jounik
@jounik Жыл бұрын
Brexit is an issue they _can't_ fix, so it would be stupid to prioritize that. You Brexit, you Boughtsit. It's now part of the British reality.
@tomkernan199
@tomkernan199 Жыл бұрын
The Government are drawing the wrong conclusion from their narrow victory in Uxbridge. Labour would have won the vote by selecting a pro-ULEZ candidate, who could spell out the benefits of ULEZ and support compensation for the small number of people effected. Instead, they chose an anti-ULEZ candidate, giving the Conservatives a very narrow home run. A pro-ULEZ Labour candidate would have easily won the seat, as ULEZ is an accepted necessity in the Climate Overheating Age. Starmer should not draw the wrong conclusion either.
@robertallen591
@robertallen591 Жыл бұрын
leaving is not in labours gift it requires cross party support or the Eu will just say no, sadly britains decline will continue to eventual collapse
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg Жыл бұрын
Cheerful aren't you?
@robertallen591
@robertallen591 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidEdwards-uf5lg sadly its far worse than people think
@Lara__
@Lara__ Жыл бұрын
It'll most likely split the tory party, which has now become extreme far-right.
@TigerP1
@TigerP1 Жыл бұрын
I think we have to see how the Conservative party got to where it is today. It was UKIP and the fear of losing more and more members and votes to them. Who is going to split the Labour vote? The Lib Dems?
@l33jcm
@l33jcm Жыл бұрын
Why should it? Labour may need to modify it's environmental policy, but ULEZ is a public health issue and the Tories are deliberately conflating it with the Climate crisis. Where Labour have slipped up is in it's messaging around ULEZ, which cost it the 500 odd votes needed to win Uxbridge.
@indricotherium4802
@indricotherium4802 Жыл бұрын
It's so often the case that Labour don't properly think the issues through and so don't get strongly on the front foot with their communications.
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg Жыл бұрын
WHAT CLIMATE CRISIS?
@techietrev189
@techietrev189 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always..
@annemoncrieff3875
@annemoncrieff3875 Жыл бұрын
Moving labour to the right started under blair and that was when they lost the Scottish vote cos we saw it happening then By going right the tories cld only go further right into facism so this, in a way, is all in blair and campbell.
@patricialeighton4516
@patricialeighton4516 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that only the laboiur Partty and Tories will be contesting the next election. There are huge regional differences which will change the overall result-not least the role of the only clear pro EU Party-the LibDems. These discussions are far too England/London centric-can we please have more thoughts on the UK as a whole
@JohnStevens-gp7ge
@JohnStevens-gp7ge Жыл бұрын
Are the LDs pro rejoining the EU? They have not said so, have no plans (even privately apparently) to actually do so and appear to be simply using the "clear pro EU" label in selected constituencies (not in any of the recent by-elections, for example) for narrow tactical advantage. That is no way to address the matter. It just adds to the current dismal political culture of evasion and lies, I regret to say.
@Purple_flower09
@Purple_flower09 Жыл бұрын
​@@JohnStevens-gp7geyes the Liberals have nothing useful to say about joining the EU. They make vague references to it in the hope of picking up Remainer votes and that's all.
@steverichmond7142
@steverichmond7142 Жыл бұрын
Please.... as a supporter of re-join, having worked for Ted Heath when we joined, can you liven the channel up... 3 minutes in and I am losing the will to live.
@geoffreyhughes9979
@geoffreyhughes9979 Жыл бұрын
Time to apply to rejoin the EU.
@happy.uk.patriot
@happy.uk.patriot Жыл бұрын
You'll have to get past me. I'm a brexit voter and supporter. I suggest you *arm* yourself.
@exeterbeekeeper
@exeterbeekeeper Жыл бұрын
@@happy.uk.patriot REJOIN TODAY
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 Жыл бұрын
​@@happy.uk.patriotso Brexiteers are literal terrorists? I look forward to Nigel Farage's voice being replaced by an actor on the news
@marinusvos
@marinusvos Жыл бұрын
"Time to apply to rejoin the EU." Joining the EU, there is no rejoining, will take approx. 20 years.
@exeterbeekeeper
@exeterbeekeeper Жыл бұрын
@@marinusvos NO you are wrong it could take as little three years!
@peenjedoyle1010
@peenjedoyle1010 Жыл бұрын
👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@user-gy2nw7ky5z
@user-gy2nw7ky5z Жыл бұрын
Most informative political channel on utube.
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ Жыл бұрын
As much as I despise The Right, a Tory win in 2024 will break up the UK. I'll LMFAO if that happens, Tory England needs to be on its own, allowing Scotland and Wales self-determination.
@CockWomble1000
@CockWomble1000 Жыл бұрын
I doubt it. Relax and prepare yourself for an incoming Labour Government 😊
@lliambunter
@lliambunter Жыл бұрын
Be nothing to relax about, it will just be more of the same , with no hope in sight
@woodennecktie
@woodennecktie Жыл бұрын
what a bright insight , brexit is also dividing the tories and the entire uk . but it's not dividing europe , just shaked but not stirred
@Purple_flower09
@Purple_flower09 Жыл бұрын
Some say that brexit has united the EU. My belief is that the war played a part too.
@jounik
@jounik Жыл бұрын
​@@Purple_flower09Certainly. Poland in particular seems to have a newfound appreciation of their membership and Hungary is starting to give up on finding a supportive partner for their departure from EU core values.
@johnmarshman7066
@johnmarshman7066 Жыл бұрын
... fell asleep waiting for the point to be made....
@imck357
@imck357 Жыл бұрын
"Scottish" labour don't want to talk about brexit coz labour in England want to target red wall ex bojo fans
@CheeseLovingGuy
@CheeseLovingGuy Жыл бұрын
Gender is going to badly hurt the labour party.
@stephenlawley8776
@stephenlawley8776 Жыл бұрын
The uk is a spent force ,,learn how to be a less than third wold economy ,you have o land resources and large population
@vvwalker7261
@vvwalker7261 Жыл бұрын
Reform is "far right", give it a break
@CockWomble1000
@CockWomble1000 Жыл бұрын
The BNP in de guise 😊
@vvwalker7261
@vvwalker7261 Жыл бұрын
@@CockWomble1000 I don't know much about the BNP but I doubt they are that bad
@matthewcook9404
@matthewcook9404 Жыл бұрын
😂
@paulmoorby2297
@paulmoorby2297 Жыл бұрын
Starmer Needs To Get a Backbone Take back All the Company's Thatcher sold off ,And Promise another Vote on Getting back into Europe !!!!!
@marinusvos
@marinusvos Жыл бұрын
"And Promise another Vote on Getting back into Europe" Getting back in will take approx. 20 years a.k.a. a generation.
@gordonfleming458
@gordonfleming458 Жыл бұрын
Will you accept the results if you lose again or demand another vote ???
@paulmoorby2297
@paulmoorby2297 Жыл бұрын
@@gordonfleming458 if people were Really that Stupid, then I would dispear !!
@Purple_flower09
@Purple_flower09 Жыл бұрын
@@gordonfleming458 the Remainers might be like the Leavers and just keep going until they get the desired result. It very much looks that way Gordon.
@Purple_flower09
@Purple_flower09 Жыл бұрын
I think promising a vote right now would be a vote loser.
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Жыл бұрын
As an EU citizen I hope Labour continues to respect the referendum.
@thedealermusic
@thedealermusic Жыл бұрын
yeah right
@Lucid.dreamer
@Lucid.dreamer Жыл бұрын
Labour are congenital, compulsive liars. We all know that.
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ Жыл бұрын
_"Will Brexit Split the Labour Party?"_ - Hope so, the so-called left will always make sure Labour splits just before an election. I'd like to see the Brexit shitshow continue with a Tory win. So I can LMFAO.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Жыл бұрын
Someone just woke up from a coma
@keacoq
@keacoq Жыл бұрын
Labour seems to be continuing to fence-sit. Nobody knows what they really think. Nobody knows what they really means about co-operation with Europe. Will they have the courage to take definite steps? If Labour think that the country has a general antipathy to Europe (afer all neither major party criticises Brexit or talks about the reality of Brexit) perhaps they will think it safer to continue the line taken by the Conservatives.
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg
@DavidEdwards-uf5lg Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, what line is that? The Tories , like labour, have no intention of leaving the EU.
@keacoq
@keacoq Жыл бұрын
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