Will Crockett - Should You Shoot sRGB or AdobeRGB?
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10 жыл бұрынIn this video, Will Crockett helps dispel the confusion between AdobeRGB and sRGB and when to use them. This is a follow-up video to a previous video on this channel on when to use AdobeRGB vs sRGB, and especially why colors appear dull to a majority of photographers when they switch their camera setting from sRGB to AdobeRGB.
“In addition to being considered one of the architects of contemporary digital portrait workflow, Will Crockett is the driving force that fuels one of the photo industry’s most innovative resources - shootsmarter.com. After over 28 years as a world class commercial photographer reeling in assignments from high line clients like Pfizer, Boeing, Hewlett Packard, Cadbury, United Airlines and TIME magazine.
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@lambwriter 7 жыл бұрын
One of the most enjoyable videos I've seen on this subject. Your examples were great and I'm glad you mentioned the video aspect of sRGB. Thank you!
@quickcuts3000 10 жыл бұрын
who is this guy? i like him. i understand this now.
@KrazyPolak87 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the straight and simple explanation. Everyone else always makes this discussion so complicated.
@andystern5845 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was a nice straightforward, non-judgemental assessment that was easy to understand! Now instead of watching 20 different videos on the subject to get an answer, I feel well educated enough to to understand the difference and to make my choices while shooting. You've got a new fan :)
@shalabhgupta3622 10 жыл бұрын
short and sweet video. cleared up my confusion about this color space thing!
@shawnmaguire 7 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you for clarifying what can at times be a complicated discussion.
@terrym45 7 жыл бұрын
Just came across this. By far the best explanation I've seen
@user-fl4ie1eu5y 6 жыл бұрын
Rare to understand something so good on youtube! He's got the know-how!
@FWPART 8 жыл бұрын
loved this video!!! Gotta see more of Crockett!!!
@GVK000 7 жыл бұрын
Best explanation by a very cool dude. Will Crockett, thanks for posting.
@ashleysowter6176 8 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Thank you SO much Will. I had read so many conflicting comments, both telling me that 'their' colour space was what I should be using. I settled on sRGB a while back, but couldn't remember why I chose that. I picked up a current photography magazine that (basically) told me I needed to be using Adobe RGB. Now that I have seen your video...I get it! Thank you so very much. I nearly decided I would just shoot/process in monochrome (which I love anyway!). Best regards, Ash.
@leonavarrobarros3280 8 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thanks
@mnash3 8 жыл бұрын
Cool vid... My goal is fine art prints for a photography exhibition. Thanks for sharing the pros and cons of the color spaces.
@Marcin79W 6 жыл бұрын
Thx for this video. I've enjoyed it a lot :)
@rrasaq 5 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thanks for your input
@chingac 9 жыл бұрын
This guy is nice. Thanks for the video.
@whatishappeningintheworld3300 8 жыл бұрын
The best explanation at all thank you sir
@TheDirtdogg118 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Thank you!
@dhammaboy1203 6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation about a hot photography debate. Very helpful!
@vishweshwarkandalgaonkar3446 6 жыл бұрын
Will definitely try
@RobinHood-hk5dk 8 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Simplified difference clearly. If most customers want sSGB color space then that's what I'll use. Adobe RGB can still be used for editing with the correct monitor and output to a Adobe RGB print house, if that is required.
@trantienlan 10 жыл бұрын
great video...thank you
@sohbsmediahouse7286 8 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. You are not "stupid" at all :) cheers mate!
@fandangofandango2022 5 жыл бұрын
Very Constructive and Nice Guy
@SoneRevMy 10 жыл бұрын
Great info
@hermezmoshi9116 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and easy to understand explanation for beginner like myself, thank you for great job because not every teacher is a teacher.
@GaryfongInc 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video.
@74Walle 7 жыл бұрын
Thx for explaining
@TheKg77 9 жыл бұрын
still confused tbh :}....i shoot raw adobe rgb and then edit in photoshop /pro photo rgb ,,, then convert to srgb when resizing and saving for the web...is this pointless? or do i gain more flexibility/colours during editing before its converted.thanks
@moshi7451 7 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS GUY +1 SO MUCH
@dontwanttojoingoogle1799 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Will, I'm not even a photographer, let alone professional photographer (although I aspire to be a half-competent hobbyist some day!) The argument goes like this: You shoot in raw + Adobe RGB, then process the pictures however you're going to process them (e.g. adjust white balance or whatnot) and then "remaster" your image down to the jpg + sRGB version that will be sent to the client or uploaded to Flickr. You don't shoot in Adobe RGB because it produces a better colored image. Rather, you shoot in Adobe RGB because it produces an image that is better for editing, and which will (hopefully) remaster down to a better colored image. That's the argument as I've read it. It *sounds* like it makes sense, but that doesn't make it necessarily true. What do you think about this argument for using Adobe RGB?
@kobe12345456780 5 жыл бұрын
Man you are funny and informative, I like it lol. Thanks!
@noorsdesign 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you man :)
@blazbohinc5735 7 жыл бұрын
I man I love your style of talking. Damn I'm tempted to subscribe..
@kylec.connorsphotography7299 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. As a newbie to most of this I was curious. I have a Canon Pixma 9500 Pro, that's on loan. I printed out a couple pictures and while the colors were close to what I edited them...I wanted to get them closer to what was edited. I also am saving for a monitor that can be properly calibrated. Anyways thanks again for the video!
@Sketcheddd 7 жыл бұрын
That end made me smile man, haha. Great explanation tho (y) gj
@martinbergmann7478 7 жыл бұрын
Love that video and u are so damn right! And u know it :) cheers
@jeffschewe7013 10 жыл бұрын
"Wider space between the pixels"? What does that even mean? Do you mean wider space between the color coordinates?
@Revealer74 6 жыл бұрын
THanks for keeping this in laymen's terms and explaining why sRGB is the way to go for most folks (read: me). Is that still mostly true three years after your post?
@supercurioTube 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Will Crockett Your smartphone looks like a Samsung Note 3. Many Samsung smartphones, and now tablets since 5 years are equipped with Super AMOLED displays. The spectrum of those panels makes them very wide gamut, much larger than sRGB of course but also than Adobe RGB. I encourage you do measure that to check this out. If you don't have the tools for, I make software to evaluate mobile displays. sRGB is legacy already as the whole industry is moving towards wide gamut displays. sRGB really is on its way out, pushed by mobile and Ultra HD Rec. 2020. I know that some photographers are still thinking print above everything else but this not really the way people view images anymore, and it will only accelerate in this direction. Except as workaround, using conversion to avoid flawed color management of some printing labs, it's not wise nor future proof to shoot in sRGB JPEG today. Because people, if they're not already will watch content on high resolution wide gamut displays. Other than that, the video seem to have been done quickly and lack editing in some parts, is there a couple confusions as the wider gamut is described to clip colors more?
@HybridphotoPro 10 жыл бұрын
Right on bud! sRGB WILL be pushed out and Samsung are just the right guys to do it. . WC
@gurhanpekuz1813 7 жыл бұрын
nice explanation ))))))))))
@khurshidalam9110 6 жыл бұрын
perfect
@artmaltman 8 жыл бұрын
Is video moving to the P3 color space instead of sRGB? I've read that the reason the new iMac offers P3 color space is for video. Thanks!
@MetalZlig 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really made me laugh ^^
@massimodeantonis7206 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Mr Crockett, I agree on your opinion about the issue of displaying adobeRGB images on everyday sRGB screens but don't you agree that it makes a difference in the final product if you post produce an image shot in AdobeRGB and then "downsample" it into sRGB? I think this way there is much more color information to work with in post production.Best regards, M.
@anthonymastrud4119 8 жыл бұрын
What happens when you edit in RGB and export in sRGB? Do your images get clipped then too?
@chanloban18 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr Crockett, I saw you have titled yourself as a X-Rite Coloratti, but under the X-Rrite official homepage, I don't see your name upon the list. And I have also been told by the currant Coloratti that you are not one of them. Would you like to give us an explanation over here? Thanks
@380stroker 6 жыл бұрын
The new UHD 4k tv's as of 2016-2017 can produce a colorspace bigger than sRGB. Look for the 4K movie titles that say HDR. Yeah baby!
@GregorMima 10 жыл бұрын
Maybe it should be mentioned the Samsung tab S is the first screen with 98% sRGB, not as someone else stated... Anything else is somewhere 50 (Retina Macbooks) and 90%sRGB (latest iPad)
@supercurioTube 10 жыл бұрын
Hey *****, about the Tab S that's factually incorrect: Tab S gamut is very wide and its primaries don't match with either Adobe RGB or sRGB in any screen mode. Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Display and Performance Erica Griffin is analyzing based on measurements made with the tools I developed and a spectrophotometer. If you have the time, watch the whole video :)
@danmaynard7509 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Will, any chance you can shed some light on an issue of mine? I'm having issues when I import my CR2 files into LR. I shoot live music, so the images are already quite saturated in some cases, but once I import them into LR they just become unusable. Just horribly saturated. They don't show up like this in the previews either. It's been happening since I got my Canon 6D. One of my mates said try AdobeRGB which is why I thought you might have some insight into this. Cheers mate!
@lambwriter 7 жыл бұрын
This is a great question. I would also like to get Will's perspective and expertise.
@VijetaDahiya 6 жыл бұрын
Lightroom doesn't let you set a profile, and the working space is proPhoto, which is bigger than even adobe RGB. Hence, there is an upscaling of the colors. However, you can set the profile at the time of export.
@VijetaDahiya 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Will, I am on the verge of buying a monitor, and also on the verge of getting mad in this whole research for the same. I am not much of a tech savvy guy. 1. I guess that if the monitor doesn't have an internal 3D LUT, then I shouldn't buy a wide gamut monitor. But what if I also buy an AMD Firepro GPU with an internal 3D LUT. 2. Even though I've to finally "Save for Web" and save it as sRGB, does shooting and coloring a video in Adobe RGB help in any kind of extra detailing? 3. I have to make content primarily for KZfaq. In March 2018, does KZfaq allow something like an embedded adobe RGB, which is detected whenever the video is played on a wide gamut display? Instead of simply going for an sRGB workflow, I feel concerned because I've come to know that most of the cellphones these days have a default and non-changing (non color managed) adobe RGB display. Please answer soon. Grateful.
@DavesChaoticBrain 10 жыл бұрын
I'm confused Will, if a Pro Lab can't print sRGB, how is your home based inkjet able to? I have an Epson R1800 that was "Supposed" to be a great little printer but I have NEVER managed to get a good print out of it. I spent MONTHS trying to get it working good and wasted hundreds of dollars of ink and paper. After all the research I did I could not find a solution, but I do recall that apparently there were no printers that did anything other than sRGB. Thank you!
@HybridphotoPro 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Excellent question sir. The inks in the high end inkjet are pigments and are literally brighter, more saturated colors than can be produced by exposing silver hallide {the light sensitive stuff in color paper} and processing IT into colored dye. The R1800 is a terrific little printer for the bux but it's all how you send the file to the printer in order to give it the info it needs to make a great print. Adobe products tend to make it more difficult than it needs to be. I have found that Adobe PhotoShop ELEMENTS actually is easier to make a great print than the big full version of Photoshop if that helps? Best bet, is to do as Gary says and stay in sRGB all the time and send to a lab. Hope that helps? WC
@jamesf2697 6 жыл бұрын
But a serious question. If your final output is in sRGB is it better to shoot in sRGB or shoot Adobe RGB and then convert to sRGB when saving as a jpg while in Photoshop?
@GaryfongInc 6 жыл бұрын
Unless you specifically know you're going to need Adobe RGB in the future (most do not), then capturing in sRGB is best.
@jamesf2697 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jamesf2697 6 жыл бұрын
Are we talking about shooting in JPG or RAW? I only shoot in raw and when I go from lightroom to photoshop it automatically changes it to adobeRGB
@GaryfongInc 6 жыл бұрын
When you export out of Lightroom and/or Photoshop, it's best to keep that same sRGB profile throughout, even if you capture in RAW at the beginning.
@jfphotography69 6 жыл бұрын
I shoot in sRGB.
@EdwardCharles868 7 жыл бұрын
I love this guy! Hahahahaha!!!
@billpancake 7 жыл бұрын
I LIKE YOU
@patlab555 10 жыл бұрын
And you are not stupid ;)
@jamesf2697 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry just had to say you for sure know about color........ focus not so much ;)
@ericnoack1324 7 жыл бұрын
I can't see the point of using Adobe rgb considering the majority of monitors can only produce up to 78% Adobe rgb but can reproduce srgb to 100%. I am matching prints on my screen BenQ pd3200Q to the prints on my Canon pro 100. I produce profiles to be as accurate as possible so Adobe is actually as useful as tits on a bull. Oh and actually you mentioned a laptop. Never use a laptop to profile prints. For instance a brand new Lenovo THinkpad came up with a woeful 46% of Adobe RGB.
@DavidslvPT 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your insightful video explaining the benefits and why to use sRGB, it actually took some time until I understood what was going on with my images when I uploaded them to a website, until today when I realised it was the colour space I was using (PhotoPro) and after seeing your video it all makes sense now. If you want to see the differences between my pictures here it goes: www.picfair.com/pics/211502745-the-skimboarder www.picfair.com/pics/211502910-the-skimboarder www.picfair.com/pics/211502194-the-skimboarder-adobe-rgb
@meneleo17 8 жыл бұрын
lol rude comment.
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