Will DC Become Better Than the MCU? - Marvel's Problems Explained

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Жыл бұрын

The Flash is good, but will Flash replace the MCU? We talk about the myriad of problems the MCU is facing, and how the Flash represents a clean start for the new DCU.
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Written and Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Rohail Mistry, Lee mazzio, Brianna McLarty, and Randolf Nombrado
Featuring: Colton Ogburn ( / coltonogburn )
Featuring: Adam Lance Garcia ( / adamlancegarcia )
#Flash #MCU #DCU
But you know, these days or more are never as important as the entire franchise. And what Colton and the online reactions are saying is that this is the first DC movie in years that actually gets you excited for the next installment of the DC Universe. IN a little bit I want to hear from Colton and author Adam lance garcia about their thoughts on this, but I want to pose a question to all of you: is the MCU about to decline, and will the DCU rise to take its place?
Doug: What do you mean? The MCU is awesome! And DC made such hits as Black Adam, and Batgirl.
Oooooh.
Doug: Too soon? Sorry.
Look man, I agree, I love the MCU, we cover every second of MCU content on the channel, but you have to admit that there has been a downward trend. Maybe not in quality, but in enthusiasm.
Doug: Why whatever do you mean?
Well let me explain. WE all know that for the first 11 years the MCU redefined blockbusters, they had such a hit streak building this mega franchise, and it culminated in avengers endgame, which was like a love letter to fans and culminated in the infinity saga.
Then a lot of fans started to say that they should have stopped the MCU there, because the movie felt like a natural end. Now, I always thought that was ridiculous because I am a kong time comic book fan, where there is one rule that is always true [watchmen, nothing ever ends]. After the endgame, I was still excited for all of the stories Marvel had left to adapt.
And then when Marvel announced what they had coming up at San Diego Comic Con, it was an embarrassment of riches. More taika waititi thor, more scott derrickson dr strange, more spider-man-the MCU expanded to premium streaming content. Marvel lost some big stars, but they had a few existing heroes who could carry the franchise as they introduced new heroes to the saga.
But then the studio with the incredible lucky streak hit some pretty big snags. IN 2018, Disney fired James Gunn for some old, disgusting tweets he made. But get this, the tweets were not new. When Gunn was hired by Marvel in 2013, he acknowledged the tweets and apologized for them. But still, he was fired and Guardians 3 was scheduled. Now, a year later he would be rehired. But Gunn had already missed a year of preproduction work on Guardians 3, and had agreed to direct the suicide squad for warner brothers.
So now, Gunn was making movies for the competition and his own MCU franchise would be delayed. This is a big deal, because guardians 3 was originally scheduled to open phase 4, in may of 2020.
Then, in February, Bob Iger stepped down as the president of the Walt Disney company.
Doug: What’s that got to do with anything?
Wwii, maybe nothing, but I have a theory I’ll explain about that in a little bit. Then, of course, the corona virus hit [montage of newscasts?]. Marvel projects that were finished-like Black widow-were able to be released in theaters. And other projects that were filming-like Wanda Vision, Loki, Shang Chi, the Eternals, and Falcon and the Winter soldier-all delayed.
Marvel’s release schedule seemed to be changing every week. Originally, multiverse of madness was supposed to be released a few months after wandavision, not a year later. You get the idea, you were there.
Marvel’s biggest loss was the death of Chadwick Boseman in 2020. In addition to being a wonderful person and gifted actor, he was the star of the franchise’s most promising franchise. But, in 2021, the MCU came back. The year was promising for the streaming shows, with Wandavision, Loki, falcon and the winter soldier, hawkeye and what if all being bangers, or at least really strong.
The movies were a bit hit and miss, but solid. They clashed with Scarlett Johansson over the streaming release of black Widow, but they settled out of court.

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@lordraiden5398
@lordraiden5398 Жыл бұрын
I am 55 years old. I don't believe in super hero or Star Wars fatigue. I just want to see new characters and good stories.
@Patrick-wl6pw
@Patrick-wl6pw Жыл бұрын
I agree you am 27
@twentyoneplusvideo0472
@twentyoneplusvideo0472 Жыл бұрын
I’m 51 and feel the same way.
@DarthSaggezza
@DarthSaggezza Жыл бұрын
I am 51 and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Give me more new content that is fresh and will surprise me at the theater. When I go and watch superhero movies, I see all types of generations inside the movie theater. It’s great to see that. Because in 20 years, that’s gonna be me in the movie theater. Sitting there at 71 years old enjoying a good superhero movie or SW.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 Жыл бұрын
51, same
@music4thesoul80
@music4thesoul80 Жыл бұрын
42, same.
@SanguineRoku
@SanguineRoku Жыл бұрын
"These characters mean nothing to this version of Peter Parker" is the point though. Pete is the kind of person who will go out of his way to save people who he just met today who were literally trying to kill him, because they're people to him, and everyone matters.
@DangerDude616
@DangerDude616 Жыл бұрын
I thought that was a weird thing to say too.. Those Villains meant nothing to the Spider man of their respective stories either, until they did. They each represented a new threat on the horizon, as most villains do.
@AbdulWahab-bd2sy
@AbdulWahab-bd2sy Жыл бұрын
They werent introduced as Villains, they were People who knew spiderman was peter and they were dragged into this world due to Peter parker's selfishness to make others forget and then tampering with the spell. So I guess after learning from doctor strange about this, that was the time he felt responsible and they were all not showing any threat. They all agreed to go back home and get fixed. They were human beings and that is what heroes do. He did it alone at first but couldnt control them. After losing May he still saved them, that was the Peter. after some backup and help, they all lost the burden of their mistakes. The baggage and regrets were cleared out. Making universe 616 Peter's origin story and Sony concluding the previous stories. I dont understand why ppl try to make everything in regards to themselves rather than understand and appreciate what others do...
@kookikumar4451
@kookikumar4451 Жыл бұрын
​@@DangerDude616 yeah them saying actors like garfield ,cox waiting to speak dialogue for fans to applause when the promo they released for batman has keaton waiting to say the same also it is weird to say spiderman nwh is good in theatres but not in tv ryan arey you lost respect brother
@TheTotalRecap
@TheTotalRecap Жыл бұрын
That's a great point!
@reecosuavey420
@reecosuavey420 Жыл бұрын
Yea that line had me shaking my head.
@ADHDVLOGS
@ADHDVLOGS Жыл бұрын
The thing that made the DCEU bad was that it felt like they were trying to take shortcuts to catch up with the MCU in Superman vs Batman.
@Sangsstuff
@Sangsstuff Жыл бұрын
It didn't only feel like it. They 100% pushed for quick releases to try to capitalise on Marvel's success and because DCU fanboys will defend their garbage no matter how hard DCU spits in their faces and calls it rain we will never get any good DCU movies. Years of the same crap has already shown us that.
@iunderstanphotography2780
@iunderstanphotography2780 Жыл бұрын
@@Sangsstuff exactly. Although I watch Man of Steel every time it comes on, to me there were always little problems in various movies that kept them from being SUPER dope to me like Avengers and others. They tried to force the Justice league together and they didn't give Doomsday the solo movie where he was the main villain like they did in the comics you could tell studio execs and money grabbers were at the helm
@Sangsstuff
@Sangsstuff Жыл бұрын
@@iunderstanphotography2780 My problem with the DC/Marvel fanboys is that people act as if they will support their side no matter what happens. That doesn't make sense to me. We want good movies about the characters we love. I loved watching Batman and Spider-man as a kid. I watched all saturday comic shows every week and I was super hyped when Spider-man was released and laughed my ass off in cringe when I saw Spider-man 3 with my friends. Just as I was very happy with Spider-man No Way Home and how it redeemed both Maguire and Garfield (the actor not the cat) from their previous bad movies. That is what I want the studios to do! To learn from their mistakes and adapt to make better films. Being a fan who defends their every move no matter what won't ever achieve that. They aren't your precious little children who need support and confidence with every mistake. They are greedy, corporate, adult investors in the movie business and they will give you whatever you have the stomach to swallow. Make sure it's something tasty.
@iunderstanphotography2780
@iunderstanphotography2780 Жыл бұрын
@@Sangsstuff I'm not sure I'm seeing the undying support. I'm hearing a lot of complaining from both sides. You and I lived through this before. AS you mentioned, we watched Batman trn into Batman and Robin, Spiderman turn into Spiderman 3. Xmen to that New mutants movie and Dark Phoenix. We have to call out the studios and let them know when they're going off the rails for Comic book fans over 40, we are literally seeing our imaginations come to life! lets keep getting more amazing films!
@Sangsstuff
@Sangsstuff Жыл бұрын
@@iunderstanphotography2780 I truly hope so! Reading online reviews of objectively horribly bad movies like Suicide Squad, Batman v Superman and Justice league has made me cynic. 😅
@MarvinMartinez2001
@MarvinMartinez2001 Жыл бұрын
Werewolf by Night was true quality for a 50 minute special presentation marvel should relay more on practical effects, costumes and sets DC is gonna shine bright in the future can’t wait!
@CyGea
@CyGea Жыл бұрын
I liked the new Ant-man movie also, had no problem with the CGI, and got the Kang I expected. Kang talks shit, but he rarely beats the heroes from Marvel's "main" universe. Scott got more help then I thought he would need.
@GODsoN_216
@GODsoN_216 Жыл бұрын
I love Kang as the villain because there's so much they can do with it especially because of the Loki series but in the Antman movie he was literally the only good part.
@BirdNerdFilms
@BirdNerdFilms 11 ай бұрын
Same! And it makes sense why Kang lost. For one, his egotistical arrogance caused him to lose. His suit literally got destroyed by evolved smart ants and he was just a man fighting another man. So naturally, after Wasp came in as well, he stood no chance
@ryadinstormblessed8308
@ryadinstormblessed8308 Жыл бұрын
Ironic that we're talking about Majors being problematic for MCU in this video about the Flash. Not to minimize claims of domestic violence, but what about Ezra's multiple issues with kidnapping, assault and more. I can't believe Warner Bros went forward with him in the movie.
@kookikumar4451
@kookikumar4451 Жыл бұрын
people want to shit on mcu for likes now
@kookikumar4451
@kookikumar4451 Жыл бұрын
people want to shit on mcu for likes now
@legionmoner5587
@legionmoner5587 Жыл бұрын
That's because the movie was already made and they spent way too much money they couldn't afford to just chunk it away months or even a year before Ezra went on his Villain arc
@falloutgar918
@falloutgar918 Жыл бұрын
And in refusing to do the right thing and neutralize the Ezra dilemma, the DCEU went on its own villain arc by choosing to do the wrong thing over the right thing. Boo DCEU.
@legionmoner5587
@legionmoner5587 Жыл бұрын
@@falloutgar918 it's dying anyways and Ezra will be recast so it doesn't matter anymore
@gabrielmurray929
@gabrielmurray929 Жыл бұрын
I think the MCU will be fine in the long run especially as they are already delaying projects and seem to be going back to having a relatively small amount of releases per year.
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
because they want more money.... not because they care about the projects. Its coming from bob igar.... not people in control of marvel. People that have nothing to do with marvel and making these decisions.
@evertonporter7887
@evertonporter7887 Жыл бұрын
The Russo Brothers absolutely need to come back for the next Avengers movies.
@greggchaffin1596
@greggchaffin1596 Жыл бұрын
Spacing out the releases doesn’t mean the quality will be there.
@jakeaneluwo
@jakeaneluwo Жыл бұрын
I agree as well. They delayed some projects and are now improving the MCU. The MCU is and ALWAYS will be far ahead and BETTER than DC!!!!!
@sonnicgamer
@sonnicgamer Жыл бұрын
​@@jakeaneluwo mate DC had the better shows n Marvel thr better movies, but now that's about to change, just bcs they're delaying the releases doesn't mean the writing is gonna change, remember the script is made either before or just after the actors are casted for the roles, so the only way Marvel's writing could improve is if they made/make a movie's script this yr n plan on releasing the movie in the next 2 or 3 yrs. meaning it'd most likely just be Fantastic 4 that'd be a good movie that listened to all the issues of previous movies
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын
Gunn didn't apologize for the tweets until the controversy that got him fired. That image you have attached to the claim is just a quote from an article where he says he apologized ten years earlier. What he actually apologized for was a blog post he made which he apologized to GLAAD for. The gross tweets continued for several months after that apology after he was hired for Guardians of the Galaxy. The reason Disney freaked out is because he followed his apology they forced him to make with more gross jokes on twitter.
@JAckh45n
@JAckh45n Жыл бұрын
THIS!!! I wish more people would actually take this seriously instead of not caring about it because he made a movie they like... Gunn is disgusting and shouldn't be anywhere near these films.
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын
@@JAckh45n i'm not even upset that James Gunn has a job, I like most of his movies. I just wish people would stop retconning his past behavior to make themselves feel better. He did apologize and he did stop his BS before he apologized. He just didn't stop when most people think a normal person would have stopped and he didn't apologize until he got caught years later.
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
I personally enjoy morbid humour and i don’t think people should apologize for making jokes.
@Exo-lCaratDeobiDiveFearnotMy
@Exo-lCaratDeobiDiveFearnotMy Жыл бұрын
​@@JAckh45n nope. after gotg3 hell no, that man is too talented. The movie made me cry over a cgi raccoon.
@gulf_coast_gypsy
@gulf_coast_gypsy Жыл бұрын
I also agree with you about Oscar Issac. I have never read a Moon Knight comic but I enjoyed the series greatly.
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
That guy is a really talented actor.
@gulf_coast_gypsy
@gulf_coast_gypsy Жыл бұрын
@@DylanMadd he is. I have liked him in everything I have seen him in.
@alveolate
@alveolate Жыл бұрын
and that is also despite the show having some pretty sizeable flaws as well... like the stock standard CG orgy, the skipping of ALL the fights when moon knight conks out, some plot conveniences, etc
@surfacematter2098
@surfacematter2098 Жыл бұрын
yeah. I had NO DESIRE to watch it. I was bored and started it....then I was hooked. Was it great? Not like GOG3....but it was a good story. Just like Hawkeye....no desire...and now its one of my favorite series along with WandaVision
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
@@surfacematter2098 Yo Hawkeye is underrated. It’s a really great Xmas time show to revisit. Between that and the Guardians Xmas special, we have some new classics! Just in time to be a little tired of Elf and the 1st 90mins of Its a Wonderful Life.
@GabrielUrias420
@GabrielUrias420 Жыл бұрын
I'd be happy if they were both equally successful🤔
@paulziiee
@paulziiee Жыл бұрын
Right?! Dunno why everyone acts like they cant co exist
@ApolloPlanetary
@ApolloPlanetary Жыл бұрын
Folks gotta stop treating movie studios like football teams
@iunderstanphotography2780
@iunderstanphotography2780 Жыл бұрын
@@paulziiee its more good assed movies for me to watch! I'd love DC to get themselves together
@twentyoneplusvideo0472
@twentyoneplusvideo0472 Жыл бұрын
Both putting out quality product only benefits the fans.
@flerbus
@flerbus Жыл бұрын
one rule in comics..no one is dead cept uncle ben
@rashedulhaqueshimul
@rashedulhaqueshimul Жыл бұрын
And Batman's parents. And Superman's planet.
@sagamerdog6544
@sagamerdog6544 Жыл бұрын
I would just like to know if would you ever consider covering the DC animated universe movies that started with flash point and went into justice league war.
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson Жыл бұрын
He should. Flashpoint Paradox animated movie was a 10/10.
@GODsoN_216
@GODsoN_216 Жыл бұрын
can u guys name some good new animated DCU or MCU shows? I'm familiar with all the classics but not familiar with what's new & really good
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction Жыл бұрын
​@@RichSmithson better than comic
@thefacelessquestion3333
@thefacelessquestion3333 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful universe.
@drewizkoollikeicecre
@drewizkoollikeicecre Жыл бұрын
It was hard to follow up Endgame. I think they’ll be fine. I love all the MCU movies. Yes, even The Eternals. Some are better than others, but I feel they’re all good.
@bigmikebeebee
@bigmikebeebee Жыл бұрын
Same here. I think the majority of people probably feel this way too. It's just that the haters are so loud on social media, it artificially amplifies their negative messages.
@duanecardinez1826
@duanecardinez1826 Жыл бұрын
Please explain how Multiverse of Madness didn't continue Wanda's arc. The series literally ends with her secretly studying the Darkhold. How could she have any other arc but being corrupted?
@amf0078
@amf0078 Жыл бұрын
I know right and she got over vision not her kids so of course she wants to see them again.
@Peterski
@Peterski Жыл бұрын
It was a wasted opportunity. They should've made Wanda into the next big villain of the MCU
@amf0078
@amf0078 Жыл бұрын
@@Peterski she’s still can be
@Peterski
@Peterski Жыл бұрын
@@amf0078 yes, but it's not the same, her descent into darkness should've been done over several movies, making it a proper tragic story. Now it's just meh
@amf0078
@amf0078 Жыл бұрын
@@Peterski it has been happening over years and movies ever since infinity war
@johnsechrist1602
@johnsechrist1602 Жыл бұрын
We can have both..... Why not just have both?
@kevrokka.d.9749
@kevrokka.d.9749 Жыл бұрын
Because reality doesn't work like that. Have you seen DC's overall sales compared to Marvel's?
@johnsechrist1602
@johnsechrist1602 Жыл бұрын
@@kevrokka.d.9749 Im not a CFO for either..... Im not concerned
@korokukoroku2409
@korokukoroku2409 Жыл бұрын
There are SO MANY great DC stories to be told. I hope this is the start of DC getting the love it deserves.
@twentyoneplusvideo0472
@twentyoneplusvideo0472 Жыл бұрын
I just hope we don’t have to sit through more Batman and Superman origin stories. We get it, let’s move on and start kicking ass.
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction Жыл бұрын
​@@twentyoneplusvideo0472 I mean we didn't have a superman movie since 2013,but yeah every JL members are extremely popular and WB has to trust these characters
@landocalrisian2014
@landocalrisian2014 Жыл бұрын
Me TOO!!
@TIGER-xk4gk
@TIGER-xk4gk Жыл бұрын
No it won’t replace the MCU, the MCU has always been a successful company and even with a failure they manage to rise up again. I might be easy to impress since I’ve defended Phase 4 but I’m pleading with you to stop craping on it
@bigmikebeebee
@bigmikebeebee Жыл бұрын
It's just ScreenCrush trying their hand at rage farming -- not a good move on their part.
@hemantks4353
@hemantks4353 Жыл бұрын
How MCU has always been a successful company? MCU just started in 2008
@cg1704
@cg1704 Жыл бұрын
Hearing that Ryan doesn't like Man of Steel is oddly devastating. But I will admit, I am heavily swayed by a movies score and Zimmers MoS score is incredible.
@theanonymouscritic1710
@theanonymouscritic1710 Жыл бұрын
Man of Steel is awesome. Ryan is incorrect.
@CaptainXJ
@CaptainXJ Жыл бұрын
They are different things. Not everything has to be a competition.
@ApolloPlanetary
@ApolloPlanetary Жыл бұрын
Strongly agree
@kevrokka.d.9749
@kevrokka.d.9749 Жыл бұрын
Except they're businesses at the end of the day so it is indeed a competition.
@BlackHedgehog
@BlackHedgehog Жыл бұрын
The one thing I wanna disagree on is the WandaVision to MoM bit. We clearly see Wanda delving into the Darkhold at the end of WandaVision so it wasn't really a "reboot" of her character. But alas.
@Bamphalas
@Bamphalas Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's like someone still reeling from grief quietly turning to drugs/alcohol and no one being there to help. She wasn't "cured" or "redeemed" at the end of Wandavision. She left to wallow in her grief. Instead of getting better, she embraced her worst tendencies. She came back with a vengeance.
@iunderstanphotography2780
@iunderstanphotography2780 Жыл бұрын
True, but i think they should have shown a little more about how reading the Darkhold corrupts you. We knew from watching “Agents of shield “, and wandaVision, but it’s not explained in the movie enough,
@iLLiCiT_XL
@iLLiCiT_XL Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with your Chapek theory. I heard rumors swirling early on in his tenure that he was tightening the reigns on Feige and it resulted in this microwave Marvel model that we’ve been experiencing for a bit.
@saturncrush
@saturncrush Жыл бұрын
Messed up. Killing the goose that lays golden eggs.
@videomaxx9
@videomaxx9 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense.
@kevthepoet
@kevthepoet Жыл бұрын
I think DC is on the rise. I think if Marvel focusses on quality over quantity and if DC also focus on story and plot and character over just the darkness and violence and cliches we've had so far I think they could both do very well
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu Жыл бұрын
Given that Marvel is already slowing down the number of releases, I think they’re already gonna be fine. Feige has a much better mind on looking at where the winds are blowing.
@gpanthony
@gpanthony Жыл бұрын
I would really like this kind of win-win-win outcome. Win for Marvel, Win for DC, win for fans. I also hope the same for other mega franchises like Monsterverse, Star Wars, and Middle Earth, too.
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
lol cliches. like this opinion?
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikeachu except Fiege has nothing to do with the slowing down of the phases.... I love when people who have no idea what they're talking about try to blindly place faith in people. Bob Igar is back in control and is all about money. aka slow shit down so there are larger windows for people to buy shit up. Not that the market was oversaturated they didnt rake in millions off of each project so now they are going to slow down and milk everything.
@kevthepoet
@kevthepoet Жыл бұрын
@@121Greenthumb the opinion became a cliche because it's true. I criticised Marvel AND DC but I guess you're a Snydercult member who can only see from one angle. "MARTHA!" and jars of piss... Come on man...
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason Thur Love and Thunder was disappointing is because we all expected it to equal Thur Ragnarok which was really good, and it just wasn't anywhere near it
@glenwaldrop8166
@glenwaldrop8166 Жыл бұрын
To be fair to Kang, Scott Lang beat Kang that was in prison with limited powers.
@acolytesounds
@acolytesounds Жыл бұрын
Phase 4 just finished and I'm in the "AntMan 3 was good" crowd. I think it sets us up for the Multiverse well and we're about to hit Guardians so 🤷 I'm actually SUPER HYPED for the Marvel's. Can't wait to see all 3 actors interact!
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
Nice. It’s also great where comic movies are vs where they used to be. Instead of a single “hero” who gets powers & a negative version he fights who has the same abilities, we FINALLY have movies populated by the comic characters. Even if they’re smaller roles. It’s more and more like a live comic
@JaeSproo
@JaeSproo Жыл бұрын
Antman 3............was "trash". You are a super fan.
@slimjimnyc270
@slimjimnyc270 Жыл бұрын
@Movies Music Sports and Life w/ Jae Sproo. I like being called a "super fan". Thanks!
@DarthSaggezza
@DarthSaggezza Жыл бұрын
@@slimjimnyc270 me too.
@26markiemark
@26markiemark Жыл бұрын
The MCU is fine lol. DC's cinematic universe will finally also be entertaining and comicbook fans will have lots to get excited about. I wonder what the narrative will be when GOTG3 does well and is a well made movie 🤔
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
Those reviews are saying great things about GOTG3!! Glad to see that ahead of Gunn making his move over to the dcu
@OoXLR8oO
@OoXLR8oO Жыл бұрын
It’s simply fascinating to me that in 2022, Marvel managed to make an entire show where the star is a total newcomer to acting and still made it work ridiculously well. Hell they made a movie where a main character was played by a newcomer as well. I don’t know, I just think it’s cool to see roles be portrayed well by people we never expect.
@GODsoN_216
@GODsoN_216 Жыл бұрын
Are u talking about Namor or Kang?
@OoXLR8oO
@OoXLR8oO Жыл бұрын
@@GODsoN_216 Neither. I’m actually referring to Ms Marvel and America Chavez, but Namor and Kang fit my comment perfectly!
@ZenithAngel
@ZenithAngel Жыл бұрын
Ms Marvel is the worst thing Marvel has ever put out
@OoXLR8oO
@OoXLR8oO Жыл бұрын
@@ZenithAngel I beg to differ.
@thetrib1
@thetrib1 Жыл бұрын
Last thing we see of wanda in her show was her using the book to try and find her kids as the scarlett witch. She wasnt reset for the MOM.
@Gundam-Fury
@Gundam-Fury Жыл бұрын
I feel the issue post EndGame is the fact that people got a huge pay off for years of build up and forogt that we had some Stinkers along the way (Hulk, The Iron-Man Sequels, Thor the Dark World!!! Age of Ultron(would be a better film if elements where explained in the film and not filled in later because somebody wanted to write a Buffy movie)), so now that we're in a building phase people think "the qualities dropped". What didnt help was the first film of Phase 4 being Spiderman No Way Home, another big climax (not of Spidermans story but of this chapter of his story) that also heaped on nostalgia which got people to celebrate and reminisce (much like End Game did), which set the wrong tone for the Phase because now people are expecting solo films to be just as grand and amazing. Throw into the mix the fan speculation for multiverse film to basically cameo EVERYONE (MoM had an all star Illuminati giving fan casting and fan requests to the screen and people STILL complained because batman didnt show up), and people are getting upset. Conversely, the expectations for a DC film right now are almost non-existent (Black Adam helped that alot after all the energy they put into promotion) so if this movie is so much as OK people are going to be blown away by the improvement and for a short while will believe that DC is coming for Marvels crown, which in reality will just make Marvel get serious and maybe start pandering to easy demographics again
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
No way home was the third film in phase 4. Eternals and Black Widow came before that.
@davidsamuelson2089
@davidsamuelson2089 Жыл бұрын
Superhero films are very much a genre. Like war films, westerns, musicals, etc. people grow tired of the genre. They just do. Superhero films, like all the aforementioned genres never completely disappear, but they don’t come around 10 times a year.
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Flash accidentally crossed into the MCU.
@MrPatt-vg5bu
@MrPatt-vg5bu Жыл бұрын
Naw y’all keep the pedo shit over there
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
​@@MrPatt-vg5bu okay, well obviously, but if they replaced Ezra, I'd love a crossover event
@starmash
@starmash Жыл бұрын
imagine if blue's clues accidentally got into dora
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
Inevitable. It will be the thing that happens before they stop making these. Like Westerns before them. There will probably still be good superhero films - like how there are good recent Westerns (Unforgiven - did I say recent?, Magnificent 7, Yellowstone & it’s spin-off). EDIT: on cue, host spoke about Westerns and how he hates the comparison.
@jonasparker3806
@jonasparker3806 Жыл бұрын
That actually did happen in the comics😅
@stickywilliams2820
@stickywilliams2820 Жыл бұрын
You are not alone, I loved Quantumania. Me and my fiancé saw it 3 times in theatres 😂 I think the tough critic reviews really hurt it’s box office appeal, but over all, the folks in my circle agree that it was a pretty good movie and personally I loved it I thought it was good fun.
@craigc-machineyerkey6783
@craigc-machineyerkey6783 Жыл бұрын
He said Falcon and Winter Soldier "didn't work"!?!?! Omg 😱 I love that series
@twentyoneplusvideo0472
@twentyoneplusvideo0472 Жыл бұрын
Right??
@buzzlightyear4623
@buzzlightyear4623 Жыл бұрын
he also said wakanda forever was one of the best 😂 so who can trust Ryan Arey 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Jarvik
@Jarvik Жыл бұрын
It all comes down to personal preference. But with how much Disney was forcing out the movies and shows; it’s meh to say it was all good. But eh if you like it. You like it.
@GODsoN_216
@GODsoN_216 Жыл бұрын
​@@buzzlightyear4623 I definitely liked Namor Been wanting to see him I think alot can be done with the character but not having Chadwick was a huge bummer.
@maxanluulnaxam1102
@maxanluulnaxam1102 Жыл бұрын
I think they’re referring to FATWS having to do a lot of reshoots. I liked it a lot and I think Ryan liked it when they did weekly episode reviews, as a whole it wasn’t as good as it could’ve been.
@mmmahh9056
@mmmahh9056 Жыл бұрын
Does that mean Erza Miller is still going to remain with a job and not get fired like Johnny Depp?
@MrPatt-vg5bu
@MrPatt-vg5bu Жыл бұрын
Of course especially if the movie make banks they didnt fire him then won’t fire him now or later
@NobleRaider2747
@NobleRaider2747 Жыл бұрын
As long as he genuinely cleans up his act, I'm for it
@MrPatt-vg5bu
@MrPatt-vg5bu Жыл бұрын
@@NobleRaider2747 he should be in prison and not above the law but that thanks to people like you who will overlook criminal behavior for a “good time”.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
​@@MrPatt-vg5bu people like you who hyperfixate on people like Ezra should be monitored too. You're usually just as bad or worse since you care too much like rightists care too much about lgbt people
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Жыл бұрын
Surprise Amber Heard and Ezra Miller are the same person in disguise.
@blaze556922
@blaze556922 Жыл бұрын
You can't even ask this question until WB goes 15 years with all successful movies and that all connect cohesively together. Right now... it's like comparing a car that runs, to a dead battery that doesn't even have a car to go in. Uncomparable
@climateproductions
@climateproductions Жыл бұрын
Weren’t Loki, WandaVision and Captain America & The Winter Soldier also Phase 4?
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
7:10 Then. Stop. Watching! You don't need to read all the comics. You don't need to watch all the shows or movies. Interact with what genuinely interests you & make content about that. If it feels like homework then your mindset needs to change, not the content 🥰
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 Жыл бұрын
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@GoldenBoyGreg
@GoldenBoyGreg Жыл бұрын
Did he just say She Hulk was a solid show?? Oh, Ryan..
@brianjohnston5221
@brianjohnston5221 Жыл бұрын
Losing credibility every time he says it
@GoldenBoyGreg
@GoldenBoyGreg Жыл бұрын
@@brianjohnston5221 😅😅
@bwestacado9643
@bwestacado9643 Жыл бұрын
His nose is so brown it looks gangrenous
@CHRIZTION
@CHRIZTION Жыл бұрын
The best thing for the genre is getting taste makers like Gunn/Fiege/Filoni to come in and give them full control of the sand box.
@JaeSproo
@JaeSproo Жыл бұрын
7:23 Time Stamp..."I think I'm alone here. But Ant Man 3 was my favorite out of the series." Yeah, buddy. You are (ALL) alone.....I'm talking Tom Hanks arguing with a vollleyball alone.
@bananaking664
@bananaking664 Жыл бұрын
i’m so tired of this mcu hate literally everywhere
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 Жыл бұрын
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@TIGER-xk4gk
@TIGER-xk4gk Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's stupid and childish
@jsb331
@jsb331 Жыл бұрын
No. Not supporting this actor's projects anymore.
@purnenduray1130
@purnenduray1130 Жыл бұрын
Which one ? Ezra miller or Jonathan majors ? Or both
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
Apparently innocent until proven guilty means nothing in this country anymore.
@jsb331
@jsb331 Жыл бұрын
@@purnenduray1130 Ezra.
@jsb331
@jsb331 Жыл бұрын
@@121Greenthumb Ezra drunk and attacking that girl on video and their multiple subsequent arrests are enough for me to decide not to contribute my money to their personal fulfillment. If they want me to do that again, they're going to need to do some damage control and I don't see any damage control, I see WB enabling them.
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
@@jsb331 LOL clearly you haven't been paying attention.... Ezra is in rehab seeking out therapy. Not everything needs to be some big speech with a half hour news coverage. Also it's literally a version of damage control to make a small statement and then keep quiet. that's quite literally damage control. Making the person go to rehab and therapy is damage control. Do you understand words? Also good for you... Miss out on the flash movie.... doesnt affect me. Doesn't bother me. You're missing out. Like would you rather they just cancel the movie and scrap everyones position?
@tannerdobrucky8764
@tannerdobrucky8764 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, literally never made a comment on KZfaq, but I really enjoyed this video with different perspectives. As a superhero movie fan I appreciate you being open and honest with reviews. Obviously not every movie is an Endgame level movie, but as y’all talked about every movie can hold its own theme and tell its own story. We as fans just want to see good stories like y’all talked about. I appreciate you talking about the good and the bad instead of just agreeing with movie because it was marvel. Love the work you do!
@ReaperFerril
@ReaperFerril Жыл бұрын
What the DCU needs is to learn from "Green Lantern." Despite all the many, many flaws in that movie, it did--to me--have one thing going for it: It was actually a comic book turned into a movie. It looked like a comic, it moved like one, it had a certain lightness of spirit that too much of the DCU ignores (how many Chris Nolan style superheroes do we really need?). Yeah, in most ways "Green Lantern" sucked, but in the ability to translate the feel of a comic to the screen, it was actually a success. Now if DC can learn how to take that while leaving all the other problems (GL, Zack Snyder, MEANINGFUL scripts, etc.), you'll probably have something worth seeing.
@bigmikebeebee
@bigmikebeebee Жыл бұрын
Love Colton and his very reasonable takes on things. Please invite him to every reaction/analysis video!
@TheTotalRecap
@TheTotalRecap Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@BZLentertainment
@BZLentertainment Жыл бұрын
As long as Warner Bros in charge, DC will always find a way to screw it all up.
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Жыл бұрын
WB is no longer in charge of DC. DC is now a separate studio. So...
@purnenduray1130
@purnenduray1130 Жыл бұрын
WB is not incharge of DC anymore . DC is a separate studio just like new line studios under WB .
@Reia.P
@Reia.P Жыл бұрын
Well you got good news…
@x_master_xtop410
@x_master_xtop410 Жыл бұрын
Not like Disney is doing anything good since 2020
@MrAjCalderon
@MrAjCalderon Жыл бұрын
I just don’t get why we need an echo series. I can’t see the character being utilized in any movies so why spend all that time on what essentially is a small side character who at the end of the day people will only watch cause they hope daredevil will be in it. They should have just continued her arc as a side character in the new daredevil series
@pj828
@pj828 Жыл бұрын
First off... Ryan. Can you give Doug a hug for me? Secondly... 14:48 I Totally Agree W You Ryan!!
@serwinzzalot9989
@serwinzzalot9989 Жыл бұрын
No way. I'm way more of a DC superman fan. I like so.e of the marvel movies and was always envious and jealous of their success. We had the Nolan trilogy but then the wheels fell off with Zack terrible interpretation of superman. Marvel still has its golden goose, the X-men.
@Exo-lCaratDeobiDiveFearnotMy
@Exo-lCaratDeobiDiveFearnotMy Жыл бұрын
They do, but they would rather crack lame jokes and put out a sh*t ton of stuff which is hard to keep track and top it off with weird cgi. I think DC can catch up to their success in coming years or even overtake it if MCU continues down their current path.
@Megarobotsquadron
@Megarobotsquadron Жыл бұрын
what he said about putting character first is kinda what made Picard S3 work. It was a great plot sure, but the made those character moments shine above else
@brohiggins9332
@brohiggins9332 Жыл бұрын
Hardcore fans MAY watch this...but because of the actors involved and the bad cgi affects, this movie is going to BOMB in sales. But mostly the actors gross us out
@matthewche
@matthewche Жыл бұрын
Assuming people know or care about Miller’s antics.
@shimmykid7
@shimmykid7 Жыл бұрын
Phase 4 was a mess due to lack of direction. I was getting so excited for all these films and Shows due to the volume of potential characters and storylines. We had the introduction of the Young Avengers, the Midnight Suns, Multiverse and Mutants. Unlike Phase 1-3 there was no end goal just kept throwing more and more. I agree that they need to reign some of this back in.
@espycole2386
@espycole2386 Жыл бұрын
I think the MCU is fine, it’s maybe just a bit of burn out. If the MCU actually just pulls back and puts out less content I think they’ll be fine. Actually, when they finally introduce the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and some other more well known characters again they’ll be back.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu Жыл бұрын
They’re already slowing down on content and holding back releases, so they’re likely gonna do just fine in steadily building what they need
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
Just a few years ago it seemed like, “MCU is never going to end!” Every movie was better than the 1 before it. And they still hadn’t introduced those MAJOR characters you mentioned. I’m actually glad they have this rough patch/inflection point. Retool, find their mojo again. Meanwhile DC gets to play. I love it.
@Terrible0x0Trivium
@Terrible0x0Trivium Жыл бұрын
I'm over it. Waiting for a reboot. This stuff is already too contrived it's all set ups of set ups for another set up.
@westcoastavenger
@westcoastavenger Жыл бұрын
Exactly. This saga will pick up too. As phase 5-6 pick up, you'll see more team ups through like with phases 2-3 leading up to Infinity War/Endgame. They can't push characters that don't resonate with fans down our throat as the faces of the product. Reed and Doom need to be front and center in Secret Wars. I can't stress enough how important Spider-Man is to the MCU too. Regular/non hardcores all know Spider-Man and the last one was one of the biggest movies in history (despite no Chinese opening). I'm sure we'll see Spider-Man 4 announced soon but there isn't a ton to be excited about until Cap 4 (even that, we need to see more to really get excited about it) after Guardians
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
The problem isnt too much content.
@GodspeedSuperbeast
@GodspeedSuperbeast Жыл бұрын
I liked Peacemaker
@aaroncornish9955
@aaroncornish9955 Жыл бұрын
Oh Ryan.. You should know that every comic in DC and Marvel have different tones all in the same universe. Which.. is like real life!! You can't have everything dark all the time, and you can't have everything dark all the time!!
@boba6890
@boba6890 Жыл бұрын
Oh, Ryan! She-Hulk was good and faithful to the comics/graphic novels? The showrunner said she disliked She-Hulk, didn't bother to read anything, when all she needed to do was adapt the Dan Slott run. The MCU has this insane idea that if they hire people who hate Marvel characters they'll get a good show. They also think people will watch a show that's pure garbage without a coherent story or a protagonist you care about if they throw Daredevil in and set-up a bunch of tie-ins. She-Hulk is a great hero and an Avenger who dies fighting Thanos and then dies again fighting the Cotati, and while each time Jen Walters dies and goes into an underworld she can return to life via a Green Door, things are not as they seem, because each time she's lost something; she's not just much darker, she's more dangerous and more uncontrollable than Bruce Banner's worst version of the Hulk. The She-Hulk the MCU showrunners created has nothing to do with the actual character; they merely exploited her for their own petty purposes and turned a great hero into the most shallow narcissistic jerk imaginable.
@mikeedwards9984
@mikeedwards9984 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted Christopher Nolan to direct secret wars.
@evertonporter7887
@evertonporter7887 Жыл бұрын
I'd also love Nolan to direct Avengers: The Kang Dynasty as well😃
@McGuffinStudios4ever
@McGuffinStudios4ever Жыл бұрын
A multiverse of corporate madness
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
Colton looks like he is at the top of his game! He is so on top of things He doesn’t even have a basement at his house, just a warm and loving wife.
@TheTotalRecap
@TheTotalRecap Жыл бұрын
I wish I had a basement though!
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
Love you man! Glad to see you in more of these vids❤️
@bizzybrown8372
@bizzybrown8372 Жыл бұрын
I feel like I’m the only Marvel/MCU fan that’s looking at all this rationally . I think for sure phase four was mid but I didn’t expect it to be spectacular due to knowing phase four is like a reboot of the tone and it’s basically a new phase one. My expectations were lowered after watching WandaVision which Disney promoted as a House of M event . House of M it was not. It was more a precursor that fits within the current iteration of the MCU. 😊
@andreadadam4585
@andreadadam4585 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I think by the end of phase 5 everyone is gonna be locked in👀🔥
@sixty-six
@sixty-six Жыл бұрын
The hiring of Gunn by DC was to plant the seed for a Marvel DC crossover.
@gedaliaw
@gedaliaw Жыл бұрын
Now that, would be awesome! Shame that they've killed off/retired most of the legacy Marvel characters though.
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction Жыл бұрын
​@@gedaliaw half of JL members are in jail
@juanaguilar2098
@juanaguilar2098 Жыл бұрын
After I watch all the others guys videos (Heavy spoilers, reel rejects, den of nerds, everything always… Etc..) I always cap it with SCREEN CRUSH!. I reallly enjoy your breakdowns keep it up… juicy out
@KdDaBos
@KdDaBos Жыл бұрын
They not mentioning that COVID was a big deal to phase 4
@TimestopEntertainment
@TimestopEntertainment Жыл бұрын
8:10 This is a theory I've been tossing around a little bit and have been getting push back on, so it's nice to see someone I respect so much agree with me. It just all seemed too coincidental to me that as soon as Iger stepped back in suddenly we were seeing big changes at Marvel.
@sheriffkimbo
@sheriffkimbo Жыл бұрын
The MCU is absolutely fine. It's a section of the fan base that is problem. There are also some very selective memories about how good phases 1-3 are. RDJ is so good as Tony Stark that people have fond memories of Iron Man 2 and 3, but... nah, come on now! Thor: The Dark World is way better than what Phase 4 projects exactly? Is the 2008 Hulk really a must-see on anyone's rewatch list? Infinity War and End Game were unreal, but the expectation that what comes after should be on that level is such an insane take when nothing before it was at that level. It is such an unrealistic desire that those people will always be disappointed. There are some problems with Phase 4, but other than some CGI issues and a little burnout from constant releases, none of it would have been handled much better, if at all, in Phase's 1-3 had situations like the pandemic or Chadwick Boseman's passing happened. They also did not have the pressure of following the MCU without Tony Stark, Steve Rodgers or Natasha Romanoff. Like I said, there is a section of the fan base that is the issue. A tiny percentage are probably the same people who get angry about more women and people of colour appearing in Star Wars - if you got offended by She-Hulk, you should probably do some soul searching - but in most cases it's silly expectations or specific desires. The people who think Daredevil must always be depressingly serious. Or the people that want so many characters to appear in Secret Wars that no actor will get more than 90 seconds of screen time. Then there are the people who say that the Council of Kangs post credit scene was better than the whole of Quantamania. I cannot even describe what a stupid mindset that is to have. Trust me when I say, I have asked around a dozen or so people who I personally know that saw the film, and only one person actually knew what that was from the comics. Many MCU fans have never read the comics. I am excited about DC because I always preferred their comics growing up, and I loathe the Snyderverse. So I am very excited to see what happens there. I may even grow to prefer it to the MCU. But the MCU has been, is, and will continue to be, good-to-great.
@roslynnaidoo3564
@roslynnaidoo3564 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@jonathanring3614
@jonathanring3614 Жыл бұрын
Amen!!!
@jasongallagher5464
@jasongallagher5464 Жыл бұрын
Adam and Colton’s final thoughts were pretty on point
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
Colton is always so well kept and hygienic. It’s hard to disagree with his observations and opinions.
@bozzutoman
@bozzutoman Жыл бұрын
This situation is the _exact_ cross-pollination of goals and effort that the superhero genre needs.
@korymulanax3362
@korymulanax3362 Жыл бұрын
"There are no sides. I just want to see the characters I love" 100% it's been a stupid argument for years
@robertcross7734
@robertcross7734 Жыл бұрын
Leave the MCU ALONE
@redjacemory4404
@redjacemory4404 Жыл бұрын
The more the MCU gets developed, the more it will be like the comic book universe. Impossibly complex, but glorious! :)
@mohamedaljassmy
@mohamedaljassmy Жыл бұрын
You some balls putting ezra miller's face when talking about dcu being better than the mcu right now
@TheWormwoodComets
@TheWormwoodComets Жыл бұрын
No. You can’t give Gunn credit for the flash, it was basically done before he even got hired. It’s Andrés Muschietti all the way!
@TheTotalRecap
@TheTotalRecap Жыл бұрын
I didn't give Gunn "credit for Flash." Muschietti deserves all the credit. In fact I said that the new DCU is very fortunate to have this film. I did however see some things that I think Gunn may have put in for future installments of the DCU, minor things.
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that Gunn had some influence on the final cut of the flash. He may even have been influential in more ways than that. It’s not like they just hired him to run a studio with out a lengthy lead up to making that choice. I bet Gunn at least offered some notes or consulted on the script at some point. Great points Colton! Glad to see you showing up more often!
@TheWormwoodComets
@TheWormwoodComets Жыл бұрын
@@batmanwins5701 nope 👎 Because they shot most of it prior to gun and Zaslov saw the film before Gunn was hired, and said the same thing everyone is saying now. Don’t you remember when he canned batgirl? That was pre Gunn.
@TheWormwoodComets
@TheWormwoodComets Жыл бұрын
@@TheTotalRecap haven’t seen the movie. “Minor” additions is not enough to give him any stamp on the project. That’s disingenuous! Especially since you as commentators, pundits, people of KZfaq should be putting Muschietti’s name first and foremost. Rewatch your own footage. You talk more about Gunn than the screen writer, producers, and even the director who actually made this film. Not lambasting your intent but as this has how many views you have a responsibility to put the actual creative’s name first and foremost as opposed to some new hire hype man. I get it algorithms but say his name! This is Muschietti’s triumph. Don’t make him share that shine with someone who is the least involved. For god sakes Safron had more to do with this film than Gunn.
@BillboSmagginsPlays
@BillboSmagginsPlays Жыл бұрын
What is with all the hate towards the MCU from this channel? Everyone is so offended that the MCU isn't as incredible as Avengers IW/EG... yeesh.
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Жыл бұрын
You have to admit it's going down hill really fast for the MCU.
@bananaking664
@bananaking664 Жыл бұрын
@@JB-1138 it really hasn’t
@DJMarcO138
@DJMarcO138 Жыл бұрын
@@JB-1138 no, that's just morons buying into doom posts like this. Just like the Star Wars morons that have been begging for KK to be fired since TLJ. Guess what HASN'T HAPPENED and ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. My suggestion to people that dislike this stuff....STOP WATCHING. No one at the studios are going to cater to you and your whining.
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 Жыл бұрын
@@JB-1138 It's just oversaturation and too many C List characters. An easy fix.
@Reia.P
@Reia.P Жыл бұрын
Because people cares They loved it, but now are disappointed, got letdown again and again Terrible characterization, rushed VFX, dull stories, and sometimes mixed with forced jokes and politics that took you out of everything Although a few are wishing everything to collapse, most people still had hopes
@amirmahadeo56
@amirmahadeo56 Жыл бұрын
Ms Marvel wasn't ever setting up the clandestines to be the major villains. they were a plot device to introduce the fear element for civilians and to appease the idea that every hero has a counterpart of equal or greater power. Lets be real, if Damage control were the only bad guys, there would be infinitely more complaints about the show because there is a clear power imbalance. I agree that they could have had a better resolution but at the end of the day, they were the subplot and should not be treated as the focal point of the show.
@I_name_All_my_guns
@I_name_All_my_guns Жыл бұрын
Thats a very long shot. With the somewhat exception of the batman movies, DC is like 20+ yrs behind
@thewayofthebeard3680
@thewayofthebeard3680 Жыл бұрын
This is the problem. MCU has been putting out hit after hit, even phase 4 there was Shang Chi, Spiderman NWH, WandaVision, etc. And although there are a few that weren't up to expectation I'd say there's also this strong new "hate" trend that's blowing it out of proportion. YET DC has yet to put out a single good movie yet & the question is being asked if they're taking over?!🤦🏻 Even if they put ONE good movie out, let's wait for a few before we crown them. So bizarre! Think of the hate the MCU would get if they continued to work with someone like Ezra & all the messed up stuff they've done.
@silentsaturn7604
@silentsaturn7604 Жыл бұрын
I think DC has already several good movies but I agree with your overall sentiment.
@hemantks4353
@hemantks4353 Жыл бұрын
@@silentsaturn7604Black Adam was better than Shang chi. Marvel whole phase 4 was 🗑️
@Adam-sg4qg
@Adam-sg4qg Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who would love a shot of Cavill's Superman flying off into space, earth in background, smiling at the camera? That homage would be a bittersweet but epic "goodbye" to the fans. Proper closure.
@davidsamuelson2089
@davidsamuelson2089 Жыл бұрын
Because Joker is not a superhero film. Outside of calling him specifically the Joker, that could’ve been a film about anyone, they used that name to make money only.
@TwinRiver100
@TwinRiver100 Жыл бұрын
25:45 this sounds familiar the going without a script thing recently I was trying to look up stuff that was coming out or in production around the time of the 2007/2008 Writer's Strike. And you mentioned Iron Man going mostly without a completed script. I think I saw something about it maybe being affected by the strike via asking ChatGPT if it has any articles on that. Unfortunately all or most of the articles it sent me led to pages that don't seem to exist anymore or even be around. I tried putting those links in the wayback machine and can't seem to find anything. I found an article from collider on how it got made, but not much specifically talking about being affected by the strike.
@jroc20052001
@jroc20052001 Жыл бұрын
Not at all. MCU set of characters is just deeper than DC. I don't think MCU will be able to top the first 3 phases, and james gunn gives DC a huge boost, and will make marvel put out a better product, but nothing will top phase 3 of MCU as far as revenue goes. But we will see, regardless I'm super excited about all the DC and MCU movies coming out in the future
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 Жыл бұрын
Secret Wars will make a lot of money.
@ChewyRocksandiscute
@ChewyRocksandiscute Жыл бұрын
Why do y’all keep promoting a child predator/groomer and woman abuser? Gross.
@TChalla616
@TChalla616 Жыл бұрын
Who are you talking about?
@DangerDude616
@DangerDude616 Жыл бұрын
@@TChalla616 They're referring to Ezra Miller.
@ChewyRocksandiscute
@ChewyRocksandiscute Жыл бұрын
@@TChalla616 that disgusting man Ezra Miller. He’s a horrible person.
@omari6108
@omari6108 Жыл бұрын
Am I in the minority believing Wandavision to be one of MCU’s best? I felt that set her up amazingly well for Multiverse of Madness. There’s no dissociation with her character between both films 😒
@SwagEverlasting
@SwagEverlasting Жыл бұрын
This title is weird. DC has to pump out 10 thrillers before they catch up
@abpsrp2000
@abpsrp2000 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish we cared as much for this as we should for the victims that get to have this rub in their faces
@mikehohl6528
@mikehohl6528 Жыл бұрын
I believe that dc is on the rise and will replace Marvel
@droskie5
@droskie5 Жыл бұрын
hard. marvel has a lot of groups to introduce. F4, Xmen, inhumans, even the eternals if redone well
@mikehohl6528
@mikehohl6528 Жыл бұрын
@@droskie5 now that is 100% true but same with dc they just haven’t had chance make great movies
@MrPatt-vg5bu
@MrPatt-vg5bu Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@MrPatt-vg5bu
@MrPatt-vg5bu Жыл бұрын
A groomer pedophile company will never replace the wonderful art of Marvel
@TIGER-xk4gk
@TIGER-xk4gk Жыл бұрын
No they won’t replace Marvel, Never!!
@gerrigarrick
@gerrigarrick Жыл бұрын
As a diehard MCU fan, the reason I became diehard in the first place was because the MCU led with character. I loved Ms. Marvel, Ryan, as I did all of the Disney+ shows(even those with plot problems due to reshoots etc.) Because they all led with character. The cracks I see appearing are in the heavy plot driven narratives with a lot of flash that seem to leave character behind... Antman Quantumania for example, and even Multiverse of Madness which as you said Ryan, ignored the beautiful character arc of WandaVision. If they can return to character they'll be in a better place IMHO.
@agrey832
@agrey832 Жыл бұрын
Adam brought up a great point about in NWH none of the villains had any emotional impact on the MCUs Spider-Man, but I want to take it a step further..... "Our" Peter went out of his way to try and redeem the villains (Doc Oc, Sandman, Lizard, Electro) but the were already redeemed in the previous movies. Even though Doc Oc died, he chose to go out saving people. Sandman and Lizard were redeemed or "cured" in Garfield's movies as well 🧐
@slockhrt
@slockhrt Жыл бұрын
RIP MCU, and good riddance! Marvel hasn't been good since Ironman 3. It was already over.
@grimdragon03
@grimdragon03 Жыл бұрын
One movie isn't going to fix that dumpster fire of a dceu. Marvel is looking worse lately .. but we can't just say it's over. Heck we don't even know if Ezra is even acting anymore
@MrPatt-vg5bu
@MrPatt-vg5bu Жыл бұрын
Oh they will keep the pedo especially if this movie hits
@Megarobotsquadron
@Megarobotsquadron Жыл бұрын
I REAALLY want to see an adaptation of the hawk world miniseries. it's the perfect origin story that could lead into him coming to earth
@hedgieandfriends1796
@hedgieandfriends1796 Жыл бұрын
i love the MCU and u guys gave voice to the thoughts and 'mid fatigue' as u guys sed. im ok with the DCU, its just a little dark for me.
@joelhenry5489
@joelhenry5489 Жыл бұрын
The most dissapointing projects for me were Dr Strange 2 and Thor.
@alexvp959
@alexvp959 Жыл бұрын
Snyder's films where about "Darkseid" and "larger meta narrative"? Not about character? Adam didn't understand a thing about those movies. Thanks to people like him we are getting cheap MCU thanks to Mr "fart jokes" Gunn. 2023 and we still have to listen to this kind of things.
@dirtybird311
@dirtybird311 Жыл бұрын
I need a Doug standalone film. The puppy has more sass than Deadpool.
@amarie_2
@amarie_2 Жыл бұрын
5:56 actor here, it wasn’t the performance, the dialogue and direction was crap. She did fine.
@coreyburns4168
@coreyburns4168 Жыл бұрын
Great points regarding both the mcu and dceu. I think people forget that phase 1 and 2 had some stinkers too. I just think there is too much material right now.
@tom4296
@tom4296 Жыл бұрын
The Jonathan Majors cast WAS NOT dismissed, in fact the alleged victim was just granted a Temporary Order of Protection ahead of court date
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
which is often the case even when the individuals are found innocent. Its the court acting cautiously as they should. Says nothing about his guilt or innocence.
@brianjohnston5221
@brianjohnston5221 Жыл бұрын
@@121Greenthumb his kang sucks anyway
@121Greenthumb
@121Greenthumb Жыл бұрын
@@brianjohnston5221 Yeah one portrayal and he sucks. Im gonna trust your opinion. He was great as he who remains and kang and the council of kangs. Y u mad?
@mikhanch1228
@mikhanch1228 Жыл бұрын
They better fix the cgi for ant-man when it releases on disney+
@oneshotperrotte1541
@oneshotperrotte1541 Жыл бұрын
Black panther 2 is one of the best comic book movies ever made?
@tfoxx17
@tfoxx17 Жыл бұрын
A lot of good points in the conversation! I definitely agree with most of them. My biggest upset with marvel post endgame is what you guys touched on: the drastic shift in Wanda between WandaVision and multiverse of madness. I still overall like multiverse of madness but my first watch in theaters I was so mad they did her dirty like that lol so totally agree here and I hope marvel learns from their mistakes and take what works and grow from it!
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