The best part of TFL is the crew!! No showing off or bragging, just being honest and fun and good attitudes dealing with great people... this is how bridges and friends are built and why i been watching this channel for 10 years

Truck & Trailer Weight Breakdown: Truck: 2021 Ram 4500 Crew cab, Cummins, 4x4 GVWR: 16,500 lbs GCWR: 37,500 lbs Payload: 7,920 lbs Max Towing: 28,770 lbs GAWR Front: 7,250 lbs GAWR Rear: 12,000 lbs Trailer: Big Tex 22GN 25’+5, 6300 lbs GVWR: 23,900 lbs GAWR: Two 10,000 lbs Rated Dually Axles Trailer Weight: 6,300 lbs Equipment: 2008 John Deere 410J 4x4 Weight: 18,500 lbs Trailer + Equipment: GVWR: 6,300 lbs + 18,500 lbs = 24,800 Breaking down the numbers this load was unfortunately slightly overloaded. The truck is more than capable of the load. However, the trailer falls short. Two issues with this particular load and the trailer. 1) The GVWR of the trailer (23,900 lbs) isn’t high enough for the weight of the trailer and equipment 24,800 lbs, exactly 900 lbs over weight. 2) The trailer is limited by its axles rating. GAWR: 20,000 lbs. Even with 20% pin weight distributed onto the rear of the truck your still over your limit by 900 lbs. One thing trailer manufacturers sometimes do is include the weight distributed onto the truck in the GVWR of the trailer. Example if your axle limit (GAWR) doesn’t add up to the GVWR you know they factored the pin weight into the GVWR. Usually around 20% for goosenecks. In this case GAWR 20,000 lbs + 19.5% = 23,900 lbs which is your GVWR. If the GVWR (23,800lbs) on the trailer was higher say 25,000 lbs, but the GAWR (20,000) was still the same. You could put more weight onto the rear of the truck. Example 20,000 lbs + 25% pin weight would give you the 25,000 lbs you need. However, dependant on the capability of the trucks rear GAWR and the structural weight rating on the goosenecks coupler. In your case it wouldn’t have been legal if possible anyway as your still over your trailers GVWR of 23,900 lbs. Bottom line you guys weren’t grossly over weight like many suggest. The truck and trailer seemed to handle the load fine. On a legal front you were technically 900 lbs overweight. One thing to note is where you got your info with regards to the weight of the equipment, as it seems inflated. Recommend finding the operating weight In the manual like I did, or to look for the weight placard on the machine. Happy hauling and safe travels! Keep up the good content 👍🏼

This is a fun series. More David is always good. I love how he acts like he doesn’t know exactly what he’s doing to make Roman and Andre give their input.

David is always a pleasing sight... experience just exudes from that man, and he's always talking in a positive light.... we don't deserve him. Lol

You're doing an excellent job Andre. I've had my CDL for 20 years and pulled all sorts of loads just like that backhoe. You're treating it just like a beginner should, tons of caution and not over confident. Keep it up and you'll be an old pro in no time.

Great job guys. I am really enjoying these tumbleweed videos. You've got so many irons in the fire I don't know how you keep up with it all. All the new series are awesome.

This is a fun series. More David is always good.

Nicely done Andre. Your skills are spot on.

I loved seeing Andre in this capacity. It really goes to show how far he has come and I love how serious he takes the safety of himself, the crew and the equipment. All too often we see boys that get ahold of large trucks and things, then make an absolute disaster of it by ruining their trailers ruining their trucks and putting a bad example out on the internet for others to mimic. Love this series guys!

Love seeing a heavy duty doing what it's designed for.. Pulling serious weight

Loving this new series!! I’m relatively new to the channel(less than 1 year) but I like the variety and the crew!! Andre is a technical guy which is a big reason I’m such a fan!! Keep up the good work!!

Andre and David in their element…love it!

Never attach chains to the rub rail. They go around the round steel bit and hook back on themselves. Good luck with the build.

coming from a a person who drives a very similar set up to this, but a 5500 series, and a 40' trailer. i would move the backhoe back a couple more feet, you want the axels of the trailer to take most of the weight, and with where you have the backhoe positioned infront of the axels, you put a lot of strain right in the middle of that trailer, essentially bending it. if you move the backhoe back a couple more feet, it would be ballanced better on the trailer, be less strain on the trailer, and also be less strain on the truck and it wuold be totally legal and balanced. It would also pull a lot better going down the road. Awesome video yall!

I love how that Alan guy (if I got the name right) is so on top of all the machines they have under their care! The passion he has for what he does really shows through. He takes his job seriously and I really respect that!

Hitch weight counts toward the trailer gross weight. You're still 6,000 over trailer gvwr, even if your axle weights are good. You can use one chain and two binders on each end, with the slack hanging under the machine. It saves that mess at 13:39. Chain the tractor down before setting the buckets down. It makes the chains tighter.

You need a freaking bulldozer for this thing.

You guys are great, and always put out such fun content! Dave is a gem! 😀😀

Pushing the weight onto the truck? Huh? I'm assuming you are just not wanting to admit you were overloaded for legality reasons lol

Can't wait for TFL-backhoe.

You can see that big flex trailer bowing lol

@ 18:00 Andre is a super valuable team member ...

Love watching guys d things a bit out of their comfort zone. Most things aren't as bad as we think they will be. Keep up the good work!

My exboss runs an 06 ram 3500 with over 400km just the trailer we pull for stuccoing is 22,000lb then it has two palettes of concrete plus a rainbarow full of water and all the ladders and tools. Heavy hauling 6speed manual built tough before the fiat buy out.

I really like this series of taming tumbleweed.

Y'all really need a lil D-6 dozer for that particular pad job.. This is going to be a fun project for y'all. You'll get her done fellas 💚

Great driving Andre.

The guy was wrong. The machine with all fluids weights 18,500 lbs! Trailer weights 7,500 lbs! Trailer is 24,000 lbs GVWR that means they overload the trailer by 2,000 lbs!

A local geo technician can core sample your soil and make recommendations for a building pad.

This is my new favorite series. All this truck talk is put into practice here! Love guys! David is awsome, and Andre is awsome too. Roman is like all of us diyers and that's just awesome!

Loving the content fellas!! Andre was a rockstar in this one

I don’t know if the laws are the same in Colorado as they are in Texas but we have to have the outriggers chained too. But decent job of hauling it. I’ve actually got a jd 410 on my trailer right now.

I think you should just give David the revenue from these tumbleweed ranch videos as payments. That would be fair payment.

Andre is very systematic

the whole video was basically watching Andre do math and strap down stuff

Can't WAIT! TO HOW THE HOLE YARD LOOKS LIKE. OPPS caps

Loving this series!

With all that earth to cut and then fill, you will need a 10 ton packer and water truck to get good compaction of your earth to support the foundation. I wait to see the nuke gage to check for compaction. My work experience tells me you need around 95% compaction or more. Here where I live, MOT rules are compaction every 1.5 m or 5 foot lifts.

Mr. Truck taught Andre well.

Great video as always, just a few pointers, your chain should never be outside the run rail, I like to go around two of the spools, I’ve hauled a lot of equipment in my 30 plus years and the right DOT officer will write you up, also looked like it was loaded to far forward, center the rear axle of the machine over the trailer tandums.

Before even watching I've gotta say thanks for all you do & thanks for doing it on a schedule. It means alot to me knowing every Sunday morning I can enjoy a new video.

You guys need to fix your hashtag on Taming Tumbleweed, and post all the videos when searched. Couldn't access episode easily. Good work guys! Love the channels!

I like David. i would love to have a friend like him.

The Hemi Dually in the back ground was cool

I was hoping on the next episode that since you guys hit rock that next was gonna be dynamite 🧨 haha

GVW on trailer is 24,000. 12:06 . Backhoe weight is over 20k dry. Your overloaded by a long shot there bud. Not saying I would not try it on back roads, but on the interstate DOT would have a field day with this setup.

proving the name on that big flex trailer

My buddy in Cheyenne has a 2001 Dodge 2500 that he used to pull around a Cat backhoe the same size as that John Deere.

Saw the Bob Allen sticker on that 4500, that's right down the road from me!

Love it. Towing is my day to day life. Good job.

I would say the backhoe was probably 2' too far forward on the trailer. I would have been interesting to roll it over a scale because I'm pretty sure you were over the trucks rear axle rating by quite a bit. Rule of thumb is the have the center of mass of your machine about a foot forward of the front trailer axle.

I really enjoy David being on the channel.

I know what Andre meant when he said he'd been thinking about that turn for the last 53 miles, when I tow heavy I'm on edge the whole way.

To make a building pad you really need to bring in several hundred yards of compactable clay and compact it down with a large vibrating roller. Using loose fill like this going to lead to seattling issues and big cracks in your concrete slab.

Hey enjoy watching you guys... I'm from lake Charles Louisiana I actually towed the same backhoe with my 1989 Chevy 2500 reg cab lwb with 3spd manual lol I also have a 2005 dodge 3500 single rear wheel with a built 6.1 hemi over 500 hp I also work hard 49k so far

It’s amazing what “pickup” trucks can do these days and that ram didn’t even have the high output engine. I have a 2021 ranger and pull a 21 ft travel trailer. I also have had 2 of the old school rangers. I can’t even fathom pulling that trailer with the old rangers. I can still get about the same gas mileage empty as the old ones with basically twice the power.

So will the backhoe go through the offroad course? :)

I have a JD 410 too and their awesome machines. I’ve had Case, Komatsu and Ford but I prefer the JD. A dozer with a 6way blade would have been more effective grading but I have built many houses and septic systems with only a backhoe/loader. If you can have only one machine I would go with what you have and you can drive to local job sites.

Excellent series boys

Yeah I'd be much more worried about the trailer failing than the truck not being able to handle the weight, by a long shot.

I just used a 32 foot Big Tex to haul two haul two pickup trucks. The trailer brakes work really good! Thank goodness lol!

Great vidjéo once again fellas, one tip for Andre from a fellow CDL holder...keep your chains or straps inside the rub rails on the trailer. DO NOT WRAP THEM AND HAVE THEM EXPOSED IN CASE OF A ROLLOVER OR COLLISION. Atleast that's how we are taught up here in Canaderp🤙

My choice would be an F450

I drive a 2018 Ram 5500 for my job, the truck itself is weighing right around 21,000 lbs and we still use it to tow very heavy loads weighing multiple thousands of pounds on the hitch. It does not have a goose neck. Heavy duty Ram trucks are beasts.

Good! Job! Andre! Now you need to try your hand at a semi!

410 Deere isn't massive lol try a 710 Deere with your 4500

That was cool

I would tow this with my 2500 all day everyday, I have a 24k gvw gooseneck and have loaded it that high

Hell yeah!

Be safe and see you next time.

The backhoe is still a bit small for that amount of grading. A dozer on tracks with a bucket would be more efficient. It could also drag a sheep's foot over each lift of fill to properly compact the soil. I would try to keep the barn located over the cut and the parking area over the fill to minimize settlement and cracking of the slab. I realize, though, you would probably have to hire and excavation company with an operator, and that may cost as much as letting David operate the backhoe and taking longer to do the job.

Cummins Power 💪🏻💪🏻👍👍

Perfect

Andre saying "heavy doooty" 25 times per vid drives me nuts lol

Need a track loader, would have it done in no time

Oh cool Bob Allen thats my dealership great people and easy to work with and lifetime powertrain warranty on most vehicles

Should have held out for the wheel loader!

Wow. Truck from Bob Allen in Danville, Kentucky.

Another greatTumbleweed episode. Is the Cummins in the 4500 the same as the SO Cummins in the 2500. Likewise would the 5500 have the HO of the 3500. Kind of neat to see you guys get into this series of trucks.

I’m addicted

try parking it in Chicago .... it was hell years ago

I wanted to answer this on the Ike!

i remember that guy with the old truck.

Interesting anything above a 3500 is non existent in Australia. Still finding a US HD Pickup on a farm here is like finding hens teeth

Would love to see weight ticket. I bet you were close on weight!! Nice!

What’s the maximum towing capacity ? Awesome truck

The outriggers are required to be secured and chain hooks are not to be put inside of links only over the non weld side

is that in missouris?

A truckie needs to show you guys how to tie down. Chain for the bucket was hooked into a link, the hook should be between the links. And for the side rails the hook should go back up to the chain not hooked on the rail. Eek sorry. Good on you for using ratchet binders and not the lever type.

How long will it take "you" to move all that dirt? What happened to "we"? Keep those fancy new boots nice and clean.

Nice truck i'd love to drive one of those 4500 or even a 5500 one day and tow a big ass trailer just to see how tough it is to drive it. Do you need a special license to do so ?

2 thousand hours and it looks like that damn son.

Is andre having allergies or is he auditioning for the bewitched remake?

A dozer pushes

What rear gear? 4.44 or 4.88. What speed were you towing.

Tumbleweed gauntlet🔥

Pretty sure that's not maxed out. Only if both truck axles and the trailer axles were at their maximum listed ratings would it be maxed out. And no, the GCWR is not something that DOT looks at. That number is for marketing and uses the horsepower of the truck for factoring. DOT doesn't care about horsepower either.

nice video

Blows my mind you need a CDL to haul that...

A 410 is a big backhoe.