Will Jeff Skinner be bought out by the Sabres?

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Ай бұрын

Jeff Skinner had a down year, but Sneaky Joe doesn't think it was as bad as some fans think. That being said, will he be bought out? Joe dives in on Skinner's numbers from this past year and how punitive buying out Skinner would be. Could a trade to a bad team willing to take on salary be possible?
Plus, evaluating Jordan Greenway's season and his future with the Sabres.
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@scottlaboch4534 Ай бұрын

I wouldn't trade Skinny. Give him a year under Ruff & see if he can jump start not just Skinny, but Thompson, Tuch, & Cozens.

@mjboshko Ай бұрын

he has a full no movement clause in his contract.

@petererckert165 Ай бұрын

@@mjboshko i'd be more worried that no one wants him at 50% retained prob need another team to tag along to do the deal but no team would even do it, we gotta buy him tf out

@RoamHockey Ай бұрын

@@petererckert165 we will never buy him out..Adams is to smart with the cap to do that..this is a 30 goal man, not Ville Leino

@timherron5095 28 күн бұрын

Probablt what they do.

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

Lol you can turn your phone off and enjoy Ireland. Kevyn Adams won't do anything now, at the draft, or in Free Agency.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Hahaha that’s funny

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

@danevertt3210 cuz it's true. Watch all the other teams will get better but the Sabres will remain the same.

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

No way should GMKA overpay for any FA. S. Laughton would be a smart trade GMKA should make. I wouldn't give up a 1st for him but a 2nd & conditional pick is where I'm at. Tyler Toffoli is a FA the Sabres should focus on.

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

@jasoncrandall73 that won't be a problem, the Sabres can't overpay anymore. Players won't come here something about a 13yr playoff drought, bad management from top to bottom and a fanboy owner who wants to continue to look to the past to build for the future.

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

@@TheDarthmalstrom The hockey salary cap is different than a football salary cap. Ruff should bring some credibility back to the Sabres. Young core. Finished above .500 2 seasons in a row. Missing the playoffs by 1 point 2 seasons ago. Patrick Kane signed with Detroit "hoping to make the playoffs" & how did that turn out? Sabres need to lock in Byram, UPL & JJP next. After that is probably about 2 bridge deals (maybe 3). Plus they have Tuch to possibly resign. Sabres need to still be smart with their salary cap. If the Sabres would have made a coaching change by game 41 they would have possibly made the playoffs. Last Season Granato held this team back.

@Sabres1970 Ай бұрын

With shit coaching & strategy he still produced 25 goals. He is probably pumped for Ruff behind the bench. No trade , no buy out . Joe you stated you wanted to break up the top line this year. For Benson 😅😅😅 look how that turned out for everybody. Chemistry was ruined in the pre-season. TUCH , TAGE , SKINS needs to stay together under Ruff. JJ , COZENS , QUINN as our 2nd line.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Total agree

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

Granato was that arm chair PS5/Xbox gamer posing as a HC.

@Sabres1970 Ай бұрын

@@jasoncrandall73 hahaha 😆 Facts

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

GMKA annoyed me when he stated after the season that he saw "issues" during the preseason with the Sabres. He waited to make a HC change after the season & not during the season (lesson learned for down the road).

@Sabres1970 Ай бұрын

@jasoncrandall73 it has to be super hard and sit back and do nada in that position of control & power. He did Donny a fav but not us fans. Mid-season change was very necessary. A new spark , diff voice. But , as he stated, he is patient, and it landed us Ruff.

@gootvansquid Ай бұрын

i barely saw tuch tage skinner line all season. their chemistry is why he had such a great year. i saw skinner on the 3rd line most of the time, and wondered why. tage was also playing while recovering for most of the time after his return from IR, and they weren't pairing him with skinner - i wish they would've given that line more of a chance after tage came back

@254zero Ай бұрын

Id wait a year or 2 before a buyout. See if Lindy can get him to produce. It's not like he wasn't contributing at all last season. Only after he was dropped to play with krebs

@kw6713a Ай бұрын

I suspect maybe Lindy isn't going to want to deal with skinner at all

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

@@kw6713a If Lindy can deal with Max A he can handle Skinner.

@petererckert165 Ай бұрын

@@jasoncrandall73 nah buy him out

@BlackIjs 26 күн бұрын

Skinner tanked in his last 13 games. 1 assist. Great effort from a $9M player.

@josephkelch1332 Ай бұрын

Buy him out. Replace him with someone who can play a 200 foot game.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

And scores 4 goals……..

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

Gotta wait another year if you do buy him out. He might play well under Lindy. Carrying excessive dead cap hits is not a smart way to manage the cap. He is overpaid but not by to much.

@petererckert165 Ай бұрын

@@jasoncrandall73 no you don't

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

@petererckert165 Look up the dead cap hits for doing it now, in 2025 or in 2026. Big differences.

@thewolfdoctor761 Ай бұрын

Buy him out or trade him at 50% ($4.5M) held back.

@petererckert165 Ай бұрын

no team wants him at that money

@thewolfdoctor761 Ай бұрын

@@petererckert165 $4.5M for a 30 goal scorer ? That's cheap.

@justinrogers1807 Ай бұрын

I pray for Fla vs Edm for finals

@Sdoyle94 Ай бұрын

Give him a year under Ruff and then make a decision

@timherron5095 28 күн бұрын

nonononono! Trade him and retain 4mil of contract for 3 yrs at 12 mil. Cheaper n shorter than buyout. They have taken on dead contratcts 3 yrs running to get above min cap. Pegula has a internal cap despite what they say. He has cost overruns on stadium selling 25% of Bills and low sabres sales. This is a no brainer. They will not use anywhere near cap money again.

@KetoFitChef Ай бұрын

They need to treat Greenway as if he is a more physical, but less skilled version of Dave Andreychuk. He’s a little more mobile than Dave was and can start hitting with a better coach, but they need to plant Greenway in front of the opponents crease and let teach him to Screen, Tip and get “garbage” goals they way Andreychuk did. He’s big and strong enough to cause problems in front of the net and fight for rebounds.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Fine………but otherwise, he needs to go

@KetoFitChef Ай бұрын

@@danevertt3210 for sure. This suggestion is just a bandaid until his contract runs out. If he turns out to be a stud in that role, great. If not, it’s just for one year.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

@@KetoFitChef in a perfect world……..he becomes a 50pt power forward…… But at his cost and production - recent results are Doodoo butter 🧈

@millertime1101 26 күн бұрын

Would be perfect for NJ if NJ buys out Palat

@daniellowe8074 Ай бұрын

Either way, Sabres would be better off without a Minus 130 career player.

@neilkennington2397 Ай бұрын

I hope so but i dont think they will as it will be a 6 million cap hit in the next 2 years i believe. Cheaper to buy him out next summer or Adams just needs to sit him down and say Jeff you will be a 3rd line player here in Buffalo or a 1st line player in Chicago San Jose or Anahiem . Skinner will then most likely remove his NMC . Only problem then is convincing one of those teams or any team to take on Skinners contract . I would assume Adams would retain part of Skinners contract. Other option as you said bring in a veteran third line centre( John Tavares?) and put Skinner on his line. IMO Greenway will be on the 4th line with Krebs and a UFA veteran winger like Ryan Lomberg FLA . Thanks for the video , have a good vacation!

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

Lmao Tavares isn't coming here and no his uncle being associated with the Bandits isn't enough to get him to waive his NMC to go from a perennial playoff team to a 14 year playoff drought team. 😂

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

At least he didn’t say we should sign Pesci…. He is not coming here

@mikemayhem39 Ай бұрын

Tavares are you serious ??😂😂 I can’t believe fans still want the same old washed up players to come to this team that’s why we suck

@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын

Now if GMKA can convince him to waive his NMC to go somewhere else that would be a +. That would allow the Sabres to dip into the FA pool with $9mil to spend & keep their cap space to lock in more younger players.

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

@jasoncrandall73 he'd have to get other players to waive their NMC to come to Buffalo which will be nigh impossible

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Wow……buying him out is totally not worth it. $2.4m for each of the last 3 years??? Nope, let him score 1.4m, 4.4m, 6.4m, 2.4m, 2.4m, 2.4m Nope, no thanks

@petererckert165 Ай бұрын

buy him out asap he's terrible

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

@@petererckert165 and replace him with some dude who will score 7 goals…… Great idea

@robc1961 Ай бұрын

They should buy him out in favor of a team player and not a me player. If they buy him out it would be at a reduced price allowing cap space.

@aaa7189 Ай бұрын

Skinner is averaging 0.67 a game scoring. Not bad but, for 9 mil ? For that $ he should be 40 + goals a season. He does need to be more physical with the back checking also.

@jammerz04 Ай бұрын

Buyout is too much. Obviously he’s not a $9 mill player. Maybe a little more than half. I’d trade him. Chicago was my plan to or Utah. But if there are no takers keep him. Personally I think Toronto would be a good pitch. Give them Skinner ($3 mill held), 11th overall, Samuelson, Rosen/Ostlund in exchange for a signed Marner. Resign Jokiharju and have Ryan Johnson up full time next season.

@oscarlanden4086 Ай бұрын

I would love too see Eriksson Ek as the third line center, he has played with greenway before and he has that grit

@KetoFitChef Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t buy him out. Not yet anyways. He is still a highly skilled player and it’s not like the team is up against the Salary Cap yet. I believe that he can still contribute until a couple younger players are ready to make the jump and when the larger contracts kick in. Then he’ll be closer to the end of his contract and the buyout will be shorter and cheaper. Pulling the trigger too soon will put urgency Sabres in a bad spot both on the ice and financially.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Totally agree…. So he sucks at defense. He’s a total pest and will score 30 goals a season. Put him on one of the top two lines and pair him with defensively sound forwards; tuck and….Cozens? Bulk up the 3rd line and try to score

@ronpeacock9939 Ай бұрын

Skinner is a product of who he's with. That's not uncommon. Personally, I'd rather see them trade him.. but a Buyout probably might not hurt.. still, with Ruff coming back.. I might give him another year.

@petererckert165 Ай бұрын

no one wants him

@gilles11dupuis 28 күн бұрын

I hope we draft Sennecke

@justinrogers1807 Ай бұрын

I think Greenway is fine for bottom 6

Ай бұрын

I can only hope so.

@wayne387 27 күн бұрын

I like Skinny but a 1000 games no playoffs? Man what are you bringing at this point? Definitely not leadership. Last year with Skinny but Sabres making the playoffs next year with or without Skinny