Klopp took over mid table team and took them to 3 CL finals and won PL and set some crazy records at Anfield. Unbelievable success 👏👏👏

One thing Keane is ignoring is that United during his career were often winning leagues with points totals in the mid 70s to mid 80s. Liverpool came 2nd with 92 points and 97, it's a lot harder to win titles when you have to run near perfect and are competing with a team that can outspend you.

The disrespect on Gary from Micah. Neville is a premier league legend. He's tragically underrated. Micah Richards is nowhere near the level of Gary Neville so to put himself in the same bracket is outrageous

Did micah really just put himself in the same bracket as Gary neville 😂😂😂😂

I’m sorry, but no way did Michah put himself on the same level as Gary 😂😂

Best Liverpool team in my lifetime, as a 37 year old man, no doubt, legends forever, we love you lads.

I can’t believe Richards is putting himself in the same bracket as Neville. Maybe Richards had more talent, certainly more strength, but Neville was a better player and obviously achieved so much more

I'm an Evertonian, and let me tell you. If Everton had achieved the amount of success which Klopps Liverpool have, I'd consider that to be a great Everton team. Klopp deserves some support and should only leave if it is what he wants to do.

I'm a villa fan...we look at our 96' league Cup winning team as a great team!! Tbf, league title, CL etc the Liverpool team of the last 5/6 years were a absolute brilliant team. Unplayable at times.

Make no mistake, Neville was a brilliant player. One of the best right backs, playing almost every game during that golden Man Utd treble season. Problem is he’s convinced everyone he was bang average with him constantly downplaying his abilities and achievements.

Micah can't even lace Gary's boots😂How Gary let him off the hook with that I'll never know, imagine if that was Roy😂

As a city fan I agree liverpool were our only competition an lost a prem title to them an won one by just 1 point! They were incredible an intense an such a well run team credit to klopp great manager 👌

Liverpool under Klopp have been great like Holland were a great team in the 70s. Beautiful to watch with great players, identity and system of play, and got to finals but just didn’t win enough.

Their games have been so exciting and beautiful to watch. Whenever they had the ball they looked like they're about to score. Also, Anfield is a freaking tapestry of football. Fans go berzerk when the team is playing great football - it was a firepit in that Barcelona comeback. I can't imagine people who watched Liverpool for the past 5-6 years will forget it, but to be remembered as a great team decades later you need more "on-paper" stats than a ucl and an epl trophy. Last year, they were so close to immortality - missed the quadruple by 1 point in epl and ucl final loss. It's a shame that they were undone so much by Real Madrid in Champions League who were never having a great season. RM's first half of the season is like pre-season by recent Man City and Liverpool standards. Meanwhile you switch of for a few weeks in England and you find yourself struggling for uel qualification. Oh well, nobody cares about context in football history. I mean how many great teams do we know from the past anyway? Sacchi's Milan, Man Utd 99', Guardiola's Barcelona, Zidane's Real Madrid, the Invincibles? I don't see Liverpool's name next to these teams. I guess when you play the game of football heritage, you win or you die.

I really like Michah but he was nowhere near the player Neville was joke that he tried to put himself on the same level 😂

It’s a shame this team hasn’t won all the silverware that it probably deserved. Has been a pleasure to watch them

Liverpool have won every club trophy and got 90+ points on several occasions. Them and MC have raised the bar so high, until this season obviously. I have watched the Liverpool teams of the 80s who won everything, but they never hit the heights this Klopp era team did. And we were 10th when he came in and needed a total rebuild. Only a goal line clearance and I think some poor decisions by one ref last season stopped them winning 3 titles.

I imagine Roy is trying to compare them with his beloved Man Utd in their pomp. I think Liverpool have had a great period for 4 or 5 years. This team reached 3 champions league finals, amassed 99, 97 and 92 points in 3 seasons, won FA Cup, League Cup, Super Cup, World Club Championship. If it’s not great it’s pretty damn impressive. The 2 years they amassed over 90 points and did’t win the title the gap to 3rd place was 18 and 25 points. I think greatness is judged long after and what Klopp has achieved starting with an average team is pretty impressive. All that maybe prevents greatness is the number of near misses and Man City being exceptional. Not to mention Real Madrid being a bit of a thorn. Beat Liverpool in 4 out of 6 of Klopp’s Champions League seasons. I think it’s one of those « nearly » stories.

A great team for Liverpool . But fell short due to poor funding. As a Liverpool fan I’m happy with a great team for us. I don’t need the team to be loved by anyone else .

Micah Richards needs to remember what level he was actually at…. I’m not Neville’s biggest fan but you cannot compare them…

Surely , they will be remembered as a great team. Look at how Klopp developed their team by bringing players in and turning things around. He has worked well since he joined Liverpool and make the team go forward , get the top 4 in his second season, go into the UCL final in his third and win later on the UCL and EPL successively . He still has somethings to do and can finish his Liverpool's era next season with a premier league trophy.

They were a great team who were pipped by a greater team on a few occasions.

The fact we’ve achieved so much on less than half the budget of city speaks for itself im praying klopp gets the backing for some big signings I know 1 or 2 big names in the squad will make a huge difference like how he transformed us before signing the likes of Virgil and Alisson. In klopp we trust YNWA❤️

They were a great team. Look how much excitement Liverpool brought in last 6 years. Only a great team can do that.

Klopps LFC team is a great team the style and intensity they bring is insane. This season they just had an injured mid field for most of the season. I would even say a team like Villarreal are great considering the little money they have compared to the bigger Spanish clubs.

Carraghers last point is massively relevant and one that people have been hesitant to bring up - Klopp cannot expect to play at the same level of intensity with these players as he has done for the last 5/6 years. They are burned out and there has been a lack of willingness to adapt and modify the play style accordingly. Time for an overhaul

Great team. Everyone feared Liverpool. We spanked City multiple times too. Have to keep investing. Not enough depth to sustain it. Adapt quicker. As a Liverpool fan we have endured a lot, and Klopp will always be remembered as our saviour. Credit to the fans for creating the best atmosphere in football 💪🔥

I think we are seriously ignoring that the only reason they havent got 3 titles from 5 years is a team that broke more financial rules than any other club in history. Whilst doing it with less spending than the next 3 teams.

There hasn't been a single team that's actually challenged Man City except for Liverpool. Had Liverpool not won that title, City would be on a 6-peat. Liverpool deserve a lot more credit.

So one bad season means they are no longer a great team? That makes sense 😅 Before this season, there was talk about this Jurgen Klopp team as being one of the best ever in Premier League history due to the lack of financial investment compared to the rivals

we’ve already seen they’ve replace the front 3 that was ‘irreplaceable’ the defence has been shaky but it’ll be ok for another year, they really just need 2 box to box players and a holding midfielder to challenge fabinho and they’ll be great. Long story short if the board back klopp they’ll go on to have another great couple seasons but if they don’t liverpool will fall away it’s that simple

Roy never gets old. Loved him when I was a kid. Love him even more now

Carragher always talks like he’s struggling with indigestion

They were consistently good for three solid years , set ridiculous standards they definitely were a great Liverpool team for that period, year or two either side they were good

Last season not mentioned 😢

Won Premier league, Community shield, FA cup, League cup, Champions league, World Club cup and European Super cup. x 1 runner up Europa league, x 2 runners up in PL (90+ points), x 2 runners up in CL, x 1 runner up league cup. A very good team- 4 European finals in 8 seasons is not bad.

Klopp is just unlucky to be in the shadow of great financial giants. But he is arguably the greatest coach and manager to have ever lived.

Both Roy and Gary are right. I personally think the quadruple last year would've been just deserves for a team who've been pipped by a point twice (by a team who've cheated financially) and reached 3 CL finals in 5 years. They would've earned an "invincibles" level of recognition, in achieving a one off accolade like that.

As a Manchester City supporter I would class them as a great team and I don't think longevity is the only factor, one of the best teams I have ever seen play was the Notts Forest team of the late 70s and they "only" had 3 years of success with that original league winning team.

Obviously depends of how you define great…for some people, only winning 1 league title will never be enough for them to be considered great

Nice subtle clap back from Carra to Roy. Roy said winning just these single titles don’t qualify you as a being a great team. Carra agreed and added that a team needs to win 2-3 league titles and European Cups. The only British team to have ever done that was the Liverpool team in the late 70s and early 80s. Neville and Keane didn’t look to impressed 😅

Won everything to win made me happy for years enjoyed the winning as a Liverpool supporter 😊😊😊😊😊

Ferguson in his first seven seasons at man utd he just won 1 premier league title, and there is a times where he finished 11th and 12th What a FRUAD

The Liverpool/City rivalry reminds me of the United/Arsenal rivalry during the Ferguson/Wenger era... Ferguson's United were a 'greater' team than Wenger's Arsenal, but that Arsenal team still managed to do something 'great' when they had their invincible season. Domestically, Pep's City have been better than Klopp's Liverpool - and you could say the same about Zidane's Real Madrid in Europe too - but this Liverpool team have collected one of each trophy, which is still pretty great (especially when you consider how mediocre the club was for 30 years!)

With the net amount of money he's had to spend, he's performed miracles in winning every trophy possible in his time at Liverpool.

This Liverpool era is not a historically great era for us. I compare Klopp's era and the accomplishments of his team to what Forest achieved under Clough and Taylor in the late '70s. Judged against Forest's trophy haul before or since that time, it's THE great team in their history, but not against the standards of City currently, Utd from '93-'13, and, LEST WE FORGET, the Liverpool teams from '73-'84 that held Forest back as City have been doing to us

Can't be classed as a great team? Madness. Over the period this Liverpool has turned up and turned out. Look at these achievements: 1 PL (99 pts) - yes 1, but was up against a great city side and lost twice by 1 pt. These races were great and went down to the last day and could've gone either way. Pts total of 97 & 92. Great advert for the Prem. Those races will be remembered. All great title races are. 1 CL - But made 3 CL finals and 1 EL final. The only english team challenging the spanish dominance. 1 Super Cup, Club World Cup, FA Cup, Carabao Cup and Community Shield. Lets talk about style of play and entertainment. What City and Pool has done during this time has been outstanding. This was a team that lost the quadruple dream on the last day of league by a pt. No team has ever come so close. Sometimes the journey matters as much as the destination. This Liverpool team made a stop at every destination required aong its journey. Something City hasn't yet. So, if City can be considered great, then surely Liverpool can be too.

They were a great team, great system and style of play that worked, Keane is wrong here, teams don't last as they get dismantled and rebuilt due to injuries, ageing players and players that lose motivation and have to be moved on, they may only have won a few trophies but they won the big ones and its the football they play as well not just success, I think Klopp needs a clear out for sure some of the players have clearly lost that drive for success, Van Dijk isn't the same since his injury, Milner is too old, Henderson may be ageing now and can't cut it every game, some players have been flops, Klopp has a lot of work to do but he knows that

If Liverpool don’t sign the correct midfielders it’s gonna be dark days ahead for Liverpool they need to get this summer spot on correct players that fits the system and the project

I sit on the fence with this, they were a joy to watch when in their prime and at their peak. The issue is that they were bridesmaids too often. Another Premier League title & another Champions League, then I would definitely be tempted to call them a great team. They had seasons where they went on wobblies which cost them big time & at times they were inconsistent. Klopp’s a great manager & he needs backing from their owners, but at the same time he’s showing faith too much faith in players past their best. Salah, Henderson, Van Dijk (to an extent), Fabinho & Thiago. They should’ve cashed in on Salah when they had the chance and clubs were offering the big bucks for him. Liverpool need major injections & to invest in fresh blood.

Hahaha Gaz N going to a waltz Love these boys. Quality

Just won everything there is to win. Gary talking sense 😮

Micah should never compare his career to Gary Neville's not even comparable 😂😂

the ever so subtle rock back from Neville when Micah put himself on the same level lol

Michah bringing the banter with his Neville comparison.

The blitz tactics were unbelievable, they were a great team but now their tactics are known

They were a great team! Some say they were the best runners up in the Premier League history! 👏

If you add runners up medals into that - you would see they've been a great team. 15-16 - 8th (60pts) : Europa league runners up; League cup runners up 16-17 - 4th (76pts) 17-18 - 4th (75pts) : CL runner up 18-19 - 2nd (97pts): CL winners; EPL runners up 19-20 - 1st (99pts): EPL winners; Super cup winners; World club cup winners; 20-21 - 3rd (69pts) 21-22 - 2nd (92pts): FA cup winners, League cup winners, CL runner up; EPL runner up In any other era, that Liverpool team adds (atleast) 2 more league titles to their haul, and they were 2 pts (that's winning 1 draw btw) and 1 goal off (or more specifically 1 GK playing the game of his career) from winning everything last year(which has never been done). They also went unbeaten at home for 2 years over this period. Just because they didn't get over the line you can't deny that it wasn't a great team. But they don't quite get in the "all time" greats because they didn't get over the line. (the 3 90+ seasons would have got them the win almost every other EPL year don't forget) The team is in transition this year (and there are a number of reasons for that, but the over arching is simply exhaustion - which a number of teams are suffering with this year). But i have no doubt they'll be back fighting on all fronts next year. I don't think Liverpool's era is over. They've still got some world class players and some top talent.

Someone list Gary v Micah’s achievements and minutes played along with that please🤣

Imagine if Roy had to compete with this City, wouldn't have won anywhere near the trophies whilst still displaying the same ability.

Have to agree with Neville for 3 years they were a great team to watch and played some brilliant and entertaining football. The Trio of Mane, Salah and Firmino will be remembered as one of the best attacking trio's

There was a great team between jan 2019-feb 2020 there went unbeaten getting 122 points from a possible 132. So yeah there was definitely a great team

Klopp's Liverpool are not finished yet this is a transitional season, next season it will be a different team and a new team to challenge for the league title.

It's crazy how quickly a good thing/team can fall apart. Remember when everyone was talking about a Klopp and Liverpool dynasty incoming when they were playing like they did for those 2-3 seasons, steamrolling everyone week in week out. No doubt having Man City about and being just as good or even better stopped that Liverpool team from winning back to back titles and a CL in the same season as the PL. On their day they could probably beat most of the truly great club sides in history, just a shame for them it was a relatively short lived thing. Can't see Klopp building another 100 point a season side. That was partly Klopp but also that bit of magic that Mane, Firminho and Salah had that nobody can predict. You won't put together another front three like that anytime soon

Klopp is an excellent coach and role model! Liverpool fans are very honoured to have him. United explayers and chuckle pundits show they are always clouded by idiotic subjectivity. Always be objective and respect!

what a great improvement's''

They was a great team, won everything possible and to be fair some decisions didn’t go their way in 2018/19 and 2021/22 in the league

Fair play to Maurice for keeping himself in shape. Not many of us could still fit into our school uniform.

I'm sixty yrs old and been watching football since the sixties and never seen one Man utd team make 90 plus points,even in a 42 game season,or achieve three European/ champion league finals in four yrs or compete against a state owned club. Yet they are called great teams. Perspective

All comes down to not having the same money as the other teams at the top. For what Klopp has bought over the years he’s done really well

I think Roy is being abit unfair they won everything in that time frame and runners up as well especially in this era.

Context matters. The 97 point season where they finished second they were a few centimeters and an off the line clearance going through Salah's legs away from a 98 point invincible season and UCL winners.

Cant believe its over already

They are a great team and to be getting that many points and appearing in that many champions league finals at the same time is a ridiculous level. I know where Keane is coming from but think he needs to pay a bit more respect.Ferguson’s united dominated for 20 years, in that period united reached 4 champions league finals, klopps Liverpool reached 3 finals in 4 years.

The only team to get 90+ points without breaking FFP

Every team with chemistry has an expiry date

I believe people will remember more the Salah/Firmino/Mane combination more than they will the team as a whole, no disrespect to the other members of the team.

There's no doubt they'll be remembered as a great team. I've said it before, they were brilliant, they just peaked at the worst possible time. That is, when the best team the league has ever seen were also at their best. They finished second twice with 90+ points, which had never happened in top flight history. My dad's generation says the Leeds team in the 70s were a great team. They finished second a lot, never won anything in Europe. Still remembered as a great team. Klopp's Liverpool team were excellent, there's no debate whatsoever. To measure them by trophy haul alone is what you do when you want to undermine them.

The very great teams win multiple leagues over a number of years, Great teams are like Liverpool of the 80s, Man Utd of 90s, 2000s, City under Pep, and you look outside of the PL, Barca under pep, Milan, all won numerous leagues, cups etc

As a liverpool fan born in the 90s this is the best liverpool team we have seen in the past 30 years of my life

Last season we messed up big, klopp is kind of man he’ll fight throughout all season but when it comes to those defining games we lose. Every year its a same story in PL we dropped points to lower teams which cost us PL and still the race was on till last day. We should have won that UCL final against madrid. Just like cara said at least one more big trophy. This liverpool team or board or committee they have made the biggest mistake last year. They should have signed so players last year. Specially a defender and a midfielder. Now this team falling apart. Few years ago spurs were great, but for 2 half years they not freshen their squad and they dropped mid table and struggling, we are in the same position, we are lucky that we got the best manager but i like man city strategy if you wanna stay on top or win more you must rotate your squad, you must bring 1 to 3 players a season. Game wise, struggle wise we were damn great, probably one of the biggest in the history of this game how we coped to stay on top with average and injury prone players. Hendo, ox, thiago, keita, diaz, konate, elliot, matip, gomez, jones. 2nldy mane was a franchise player at liverpool man used to play 40+ games consistently you don’t lose player like that. So we weren’t great team.

They were a great team at their peak but Roy is right they didn’t win enough to be classed as on of the great teams of British football history 1 PL, 1 CL, 1 FA cup 1 League cup in 7-8 years isn’t great some clubs have won that in just 2 years

Given the financial constraints Liverpool play under when compared to City, and the crazy injuries they’ve had over the years (20-21, this season) Liverpool have absolutely been a great team. Getting 97 points in a season and not winning the league is just mad. The football they played during this period has been great to watch, no question!

Anytime who wins everything possible is a great

Carragher made a good point about intensity and longevity towards the end there.

Keano tells it how he see's it

They aren’t ready for the uncomfortable conversations about VVD and Fabinho

I can’t believe that micha classes himself with gary, and gary not at the same level as Roy! Both amazing players

They’ve won 2 proper trophies in almost a decade and fallen off a cliff about 5 times blaming a few injuries 😂 can’t be compared to Chelsea’s title winners under conte, Mourinho and ancelotti and don’t even mention them in the same convo as the arsene wenger and sir Alex sides 😂

Not ever a Liverpool fan but Klopp's Liverpool side at it's peak will absolutely batter any Liverpool side of old not even debatable

Micah's hair line is mesmerizing

They are a great team. Period. It’s insane what he has achieved with the resources at his disposition.

Good side. Roy’s right though, not enough success over an extended period. I’m not fully sold on this points total thing either, I would argue that if so many sides are picking up so many points maybe the league wasn’t as competitive as previous.

Are these guys seriously going to ignore that one of the reasons why Liverpool don’t have more league titles under klopp. Is due to Man City having more money than god and breaking every financial rule under the sun. Also the fact that klopps Liverpool have won every possible trophy there is to win and for that team not to be considered great is something I seriously don’t agree with. Not saying they’re the greatest team ever but they’ve earned that respect. And yes I am a Liverpool fan by saying this and I’ll probably get slagged for this. But before any rival fans decide to do that, please remove any biased views you may have and look at context. Of course that’s easier said than done in this day and age😂😊

Great team...yes!

They are a great team, but because City are better in the league due to squad depth, they won't be remembered as such. To lose out over a 38 game season by a single point means you're almost as good as the winner, and if they're classified as 'great', then so is the runner up, especially if the runner up has surpassed the points total of previous 'greats' when they won the league. However, years down the line, only the winners will be remembered.

They were a couple of games away from a historic quadruple last season. Of course they were a great team. People will be talking about this team for years and hold it in higher regard than the Liverpool of Suarez or Torres

Manchester City (2017-18) - 106. A famous season for many reasons, Manchester City and Pep Guardiola were all-conquering as they became the first side to rack up 100 points in the Premier League, and in which they scored a mammoth 106 goals in the process

Why is this even a debate

Yes, won everything. Not easy these days with how powerful City have been.