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We don't need new types. We need a rebalance of the current types.

The problem with adding new types is 1. Too many new fan made types are too gimmicky 2. Most type issues can just be reworked 3. Adding a new type will only temporarily solve the issue

I got the feeling that the stellar type will be forgotten as soon as legends Za comes out

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"Steel would definitely resist Sound" That's crazy, I always think the exact opposite. Put on some layers of steel armor and then stand on a riverbank while a giant vibrating transport ship passes by. When I picture a Metagross getting hit by a Hyper Voice that's been re-typed into a Sound type, I imagine its brains being vibrated to mush (as I'd picture Steel AND Psychic to be weak to it... as well as Electric and Fighting..)

Nuclear was Uranium's gimmick. In exchange for all Nuclear-types being weak to all types except Nuclear, the type beat every other type in the game except for itself... and Steel. All it did was require you to bring a Steel-type with you during the campaign. If they want to factor in concepts like ionising radiation or gamma rays then they should probably just make it Poison-type.

You say you can't see Sound being super effective against Steel, but we must remember that sound, as a mechanical wave, propagates faster the denser the medium is, (that's why you can make the yoghurts on a string toy to communicate as a kid) so I can perfectly see a case being made as to why sound could beat steel no issue

I have a new type to beat Steel: Jet Fuel type.

I think a big part of the argument as to why fairy can be considered the best type is that firstly, poison and steel types are still not the best types offensively. Fairy is the only relevant type steel and poison hit for super effective damage. This leads into my second point that steel itself is much worse offensively than fairy. Again, fairy is the only relevant type that steel hits for super effective damage while fairy hits the important types of dragon, dark, and fighting. Moonblast is considered one of the most spammable moves in the game for a reason

6:00 Ground is the most unbalanced type alongside steel change my mind 99% of ground types can just spam earthquake with literal 0 consequences unless you have a flying type. The fact you have to often consider a ground type counter in water and ice monotypes despite being in advantage to it speaks for itself.

I'm calling it now. Game Freak will probably never add another type, mainly due to balancing reasons, and also because they would need to reapply the new type to older Pokémon and now that there are over 1,000 Pokémon. Yeah I think they're comfortable with the current 18 types.

I actually think sound should be super effective against steel. Think about reverberation.

Alternate Title: Why Changing the Type Chart is much better than adding a New Type.

It should be noted that Fairy is technically a light type or a magic type. Dragon and Dark also work as magic types, with Dragon being an "Ancient" type and Dark being a "Darkness" type along with being evil.... Psychic also works for light as well because it's also a "cosmic" type due to how so many psychic issues work with cosmos and stars and etc.... And that's the issue with a lot of new types people try to create... they technically already exist as other types.... Even sound.... almost everyone makes sound. It's a normal thing....

Fairy type needed to happen... But I _really_ don't think it was necessary to make them immune. Just a resistance would have sufficed. They tend to do that a lot... Just slap on an immunity for the type they're trying to nerf (they did it with dark type too). Also, we just don't need a "light type" when fairy already exists. Its basically the same thing.

Fairy, and Electric work as light. We don't need it. We also don't need wind, since they combined birds, wind, and air for Flying, so.... there you go.

(5:54-6:40) As a competitive player, let me correct you why Fairy is seen as broken. - Steel may have more defensive resistances, but offensively it isn't strong, especially their secondary effects, also their accuracy aren't always the best. - Water is know for being tanky, but it has no immunities... Water also doesn't have good secondary effects... other than Scald which was nerfed in distribution... there's also ways to reduce it's power with abilities and weather. - Fire is also great, one of my faves, but there's ways to reduce their Fire power with abilities, and weather. Now let's look at Fairy... their accuracy doesn't suck, the worst one is Play Rough at 90%... and there's no real way to reduce their attacks. Let's look at some other moves shall we... - Baby Doll Eyes: Lowers attack; has priority 1 - Dazzling Gleam: Base 80 spread move, that doesn't miss. - Decorate: Increases attack and sp.attack by 2 stages, bypasses your allies Protect, and Detect - Draining Kiss: Base 50 attack but steals 75% HP back - Moonblast: Base 95 after the universal 95>90 nerf... it has a 30% chance to reduce sp.attack unlike the common 10% - Play Rough: Base 90 with 90% accuracy with a 10% chance to reduce attack. (fairest Fairy move) - Spirit Break: signature move yes, but always reduces sp.attack on a relevant DOU Pokemon And this is just a few... not to mention Misty Explosion and Strange Steam... other decent moves.

At the end of the day everyone forgets that Pokemons target is kids first and foremost, and 18 types is already a lot to memorize for a kid.

Wait! Sound makes so much sense. Think it as vibrations. Just how with perfect frequency sound you can break glass, same as for steel. And whats an earthquake it's vibrations underground between tectonic plates. Energy travels faster via medium with closely packed molecules. Sound Super effective on - Steel, ground, fire, water, electric. Sound resisted by - grass, rock, ice, ghost, bug since they are mostly air and air trapped inside them which is a bad conductor of sound. Types super effective on sound - grass, flying, psychic, bug, rock (they dampen the vibrations or doesn't care) Types not effective on sound - electric ( needs flow of electrons but vibrations acts a resistance) Ghost and ground (water if needed)

There is a problem with the Sound type: There are plenty of non-normal sound based moves and all of them, even the normal ones, are not Physical moves, only Special and Status. Non-Normal type includes: Metal Sound Steel, Grass Whistle Grass, Bug Buzz Bug, Snarl Dark, Disarming Voice Fairy, Parting Shot Dark, Sparkling Aria Water, Clanging Scales Dragon, Clangorous Soulblaze Dragon, Clangorous Soul Dragon, Overdrive Electric, Eerie Spell Psychic, Torch Song Fire, Alluring Voice Fairy, Psychic Noise Psychic. What are we going to do with them? And no, don't retcon them and give them the “Flying Press” treatment.

We need another "Eevee" type of Pokémon for the other remaining types (Ground, Ghost, Dragon, Bug, Steel, Rock, Fighting, Flying & Poison).

In response to this video, I submit to you the romhack Pokemon: Too Many Types. That is all.

Problems with the type chart could pretty easily solved with just a few changes. Make psychic supereffective into steel(with psychic attacks going through steel, or the whole spoon bending thing), make bug resist fairy and psychic and make it neutral into ghost and fairy, and make ice resist water. I think all of these make intuitive sense, at least more than what we have currently, like why the hell does steel resist psychic? At the very least it should be neutral. This is probably the best way to fix the type chart currently. Although… I do think light COULD work as a new type, if only barely. At the very least, light is way better than sound as a new type. First of all, there are ~ thirty lines/individual pokemon that work with the light type while there are max like 25 that work with sound. Not that that is a big difference, but its something. Then, adding sound doesn’t really help the type chart much. I think the best it could do is be weak to bug and good into water, and maybe be weak to ice because of sound traveling less far in the cold? Sound would also basically have to be good into psychic since sound disrupts concentration and psychic already sucks. Light would be better since it could help bug, grass, ice, and rock(and ground) by hitting them for neutral(bugs like light, plants feed on light, ice reflects light, and rocks and ground mute light). Light also doesn’t need to beat dark, you can have light be supereffective against dark and dark be supereffective against light. Ok, but here’s the big thing. Adding sound comes with a bunch of other problems. First of all, it already exists in the game so stuff like throat spray and throat chop would have to either be reworked or removed. Then the problem of moves comes in. What do you do for a move like bug buzz? It already works perfectly as a bug type sound based move. By adding the sound type you would actually be taking something away from the move(either bug or sound). On top of that, you basically completely remove the only strong normal type special moves. Adding light as a type doesn’t come with any big problems like that. Basically all the potential light moves come from different types and could pretty cleanly be transformed into light type. And since light moves don’t exist, there isn’t the problem that sound has with sound based moves. Now to be fair, in order for light to work it would have to embody several ideas, similar to how flying represents literal flight, as well as wind, or how fighting is both martial arts and justice. For light I think this would mean it would represent physical light like xurkitree, as well as divinity like arceus, and general daytime stuff like lycanrock day form. In any case, I would prefer a simple revamp of the type chart, I just wanted to say that sound as a type SUCKS and light is much better.

This doesn't help with balance, but conceptually I'm surprised that more people don't consider separating Flying into Bird and Wind. I guess you can see it as Flying being like Fairy where it's a single concept that can encompass multiple things, but almost every element system in other media has some form of wind. It's always felt weird that Pokemon lumps it in with Flying.

I would say these are the current issues with the Type Chart that are in urgent need of addressing, be it by re-balancing the current type match-ups or by adding a new type: Ice Type: Too many weaknesses and not a single resistance that it can actually make use of. Beforehand it was arguable this was a balancing choice due to their niche of being the only type with a strictly positive match-up against Dragons but even if that were the case, they were still weak back then and that reason is obsolete now that the Fairy Types have taken that niche. If there is a type that needs a defensive buff, it's ice, take away some of its weaknesses and give it some proper resistances for god's sake; Bug Type: Too many Types resist it, that is pretty much it, take away some Types' resistance to Bugs and they would not be top tier but would definitely be infinitely more usable; Poison Type: In a weird situation where it just falls a little bit short in both offensive and defensive properties, it is not terrible in either department, just sorta weak in both; Rock Type: Similar to Ice, too many weaknesses albeit not as bad as it does have some resistances. Another issue unrelated to Type match-ups is also that Rock lacks good moves that are accurate, which is another area it needs a buff in. There are also some types that are far from downright bad but could use a little help, mainly Grass, Psychic and Fighting. Again, none of them are downright bad, if we lived in a world they were the three worst types in the game as they are it would mean the type chart is pretty balanced all things considered.

High intensity sound waves are already used in real life to weaken or break metals, so making it SE against Steel makes some sense. The type could be resisted by Ice and Bug, which is also nice.

Gen 1 - 15 Types Gen 2 - 2 Types Gen 6 - 1 Type.

The steel problem isnt that big of a deal, it doesn't have incredibly strong moves like draco meteor, ourage, etc and its weaknesses are some of the most common offensive types (earthquake, fire blast, flare blitz, flamethrower)

To justify sound type a bit: - Metal amplifies sound very effectively because of reverb. If sound is amplified by steel, it is super effective to steel. - Most bugs cannot hear, you could even argue that they’d be immune to sound type! - Snow is very good at muffling sound, therefore sound would be not very effective to ice. - Fairy? Yeah… no idea. And I worry that nerfing steel types by adding sound types would only make fairy types stronger, which most people don’t want. I think Sound fixes a lot of smaller issues, but it risks creating one giant issue.

Maybe I'm trying to make something work out of nothing but if they were to add sound I think it could work as follows: 1. Resisted by bug since they often make sound (as mentioned in video) 2. Super Effective on Steel as the vibrations of sound can cause steel to become weaker/loose. 3. Super Effective against Fairy as since they are associated with fairy tales and sort of dream like situations, a loud sound can wake you up and therefore end the fairy tale. 4. Resisted by Dark as darkness doesn't care if there's sound and in space where it often considered dark, there is little to no sound. I'd also make Electric super effective against Steel and have Rock now also be super effective against Electric. I don't think I'd actually want this, but it's something I could see helping the type issues of everything.

What we need specifically is something that beats and resists Steel and Fairy, resists Dragon, is weak and resisted by Grass and Bug, is resisted by Ice, and is weak to Poison. What the heck would THAT be?

I feel like a lot of the new type discussion really boils down to "we want a new type cause we think it would be cool". I don't think we solve much from a balancing perspective if we do bring in a new type especially since a lot of ideas are too abstract or don't actually do much without long reaching harder than Decidueye. The 18 types we have are fine and we should be focusing on ways to make the existing type chart better.

We’re not getting a new type unless we need a new type and currently we definitely don’t need a new one. We need rebalancing.

Of all the fan-made types that people have come up with, the only two that can stand on their own is the Cosmic type & the Synthetic type, purely because they make logical sense, with extraterrestrial Pokémon and Pokémon made out of cardboard, plastic, paper, 3D polygons, etc. Sound fits perfectly as a property of moves, Light is too similar to Fairy, Mystic is too similar to Psychic, Nuclear is too similar to Poison, and Crystal is too similar to Rock. Plus, with Nuclear & Crystal, we now have Stellar as a type that is basically "Hits every type for at least neutral."

3:25 JPR I love ya but “finna lit?” Do not let bro use slang again 💀 hahahaha jokes aside loved the video as usual!

Sound beating Fairy and Water makes sense to me. Fairies are dainty, peaceful creatures that would be adverse to harsh, grating noises, while shockwaves are far more lethal underwater. Sound could give defensive utility to Rock, Ice (solid, unmoving elements) and Bug (creatures that are already super noisy). ... However, Steel would absolutely resist Sound, which is an issue. No clue what Sound would be weak to, either, other than itself and maybe Psychic (which could create their own shockwaves to "destroy/cancel out" sounds).

Hi, I'm from the future. In gen 12 they introduced gold and diamond types. Every pokemon can become it, they hit everything super effective and resist everything. You just have to pay 2.99/4.99 per pokemon you want to have it

The reason there is no Light-type is because Dark-type is Evil-type in Japanese.

Fairy should’ve been resistant to dragon, not immune.

A better question is when will we get the next Eevee evolution?

The funny thing is, despite Gen 2 bringing in 2 new types that are both weak to Fighting, it took until Gen 3 for that to become actually good as that was mostly used to counter Normal before then (part of why Steel was brought in the first place)

While I wouldn’t mind the addition of another type of- even it’s one that makes less sense to me - I also doubt that we’ll get another any time soon. The only reasons I can see it happening is if the developers want to shake things up a bit again, or it’s to ensure that things are a bit more equal. Saying that, I also believe that it’s more the specific Pokémon that throw off game balance rather than just the type itself. Flutter mane is as much a threat in the meta as it is because of its stats as much as its typing.

Fairy did need to happen, but I also don't think it should be immune to dragon. Maybe just resist. Because fairy didn't really balance the type chart. It just replaced dragon as the strongest thing, and resulted in some pretty unfortunate centralization around the type. It's a bit better now, 3 gens out, but fairy types still tend to be disproportionately powerful.

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I feel like sound could be super effective on steel since sound travels faster through solids, bug could be super effective on sound because that annoying sound mosquitoes make in your ear. Might be a stretch but there's already a lot of stretches in Pokémon types

I would like to see a tech(technological) type - made by humans or that have interactions with virtual reality, a food type - it would be pokemon focused on food, and a fossil type - based on dinosaurs and other ancient extinct creatures.

I think a great way to introduce a rebalance to current types would be through story/gameplay. For example, a new legendary ice-type whose supernatural powers affect the other elements differently in the region (or that timeline/universe). Like maybe hitting fire and water for neutral damage instead of being resisted, etc.

Make Bug super effective against Normal. I wanna see some chaos.

I feel like they wouldn’t change a Pokémon type of it isn’t monotype (keeping the original type while adding the new secondary type) or normal (replacing normal with the new type) so I don’t see them replacing necrozma psychic type with and other type for example

The Kalos type chart really should be the forever type chart. Change should come by adding individual pokemon, abilities, and held items to rebalance the meta.

Dragon makes sense being strong because they usually take forever to evolve, just don't make as many of them. (and do something for those who play competitive)

8:08 Can you not just say USUM came out 7 years ago so casually?

Yeah, new types are introduced to put massively overpowered types in check. We don't have a situation like that right now, so there's no real need for anything new.

I always thought Dark was weak to Bug because the devs thought it would be funny. XD

They could just keep Stellar, and simply make it so Stellar Pokemon are weak to other Stellar Pokemon. So pretty much making it like Ghost type in Gen 1. As for Pokemon thatll be changed into Stellar? Ditto, Arceus, Regigigas, Genesect and Type-Null. Ditto, Regi, Arceus and Type could be Normal/Stellar while Genesect gets Stellar/Bug in base form. And they can have so Stellar Pokemon gets stab for all types lmao. (This is why it should become a legendary only typing.

A lot of fairies weren't pink when first introduced, though. If you want a rough type, all fire types have red, orange, or yellow in their design, with only roughly 5 exceptions.

i do think it would make sense for light type to be weak to bug because bugs are attracted to light i also think it would make sense for electric types to be strong against steel cuz steel and copper conducts eletricity (some logic as water type).

The problem with Bug is that too many types resist it. Giving it one new type to be supereffective against doesn't help if half the opponent's team still resists it, making switches against it too easy. It sucks offensively and one good interaction isn't going to change that. The better solution would be imo to make Bug a defensive type. It already has a super valuable resistance against Ground, giving it a few more might really make it valuable as a secondary type for defensive purposes. Giving Bug a resistance to Fairy and Ghost would really help the type imo since both of those resistances would be really valuable and both of those types could also use the nerf. To nerf Steel, I think it should be weak to Water, since wetness makes it rust. To balance out water, it should also gain a new weakness in turn, and I propose Poison. Poison could definitely use the buff, and with pollution and with acidification due to climate change, more and more water reservoirs are becoming toxic and killing their inhabitants. This interaction thus already has a match in the real world and could serve as a grim reminder of the value of nature, just like Cursola already does (so we have in-game precedent for that too).

Sound and Light = Wave You can call it wave type and you can choose between more things for designs and attacks, no idea what their interactions between types would be like At the same time, since it is very general, you can ignore parts of it at your convenience and people probably won't notice. Cosmic = there are some pokemon that could go in... but a pokemon shouldn't be a type because it comes from space, and things like meteors or stars are easily covered by other types Nuclear = Expecific, how do you justify that there are too many pokemons of this type without having to resort to "blame of nuclear contamination" Time = Just not In the end I say that if there is a new type, it should benefit the ice and/or bug type (in addition to obviously nerfing the overpower type which is the reason for its existence), I mean, a Technology type would probably be weak to Bug, Besides, there are already a few pokemons that could become that type, along with some attacks, and it is an excuse for several different designs... although now that paradox pokemons exist, it would probably be impossible, it would basically make them less unique by half. of special pokemons of the ninth gen In general, there is no room for a new type, the options... are not good enough, or directly bad

In order to nerf steel, there could be a C-4 type, but that would be super effective against everything else too

Regardless of what types are objectively good, dragon and fairy are my favorite types. I also really like water and steel types. Flying is also cool.

It is difficult to implement, but SOUND is the only type that I think may be possible to introduce. For steel, although it occurs in specific circumstances, sound does affect metal structures, this is due to vibrations that can alter the structure or shape of metals, this is called: "Vibration fatigue", so ...can be effective if you look at it from that perspective.

2:39 Bugs are not ‘commonly’ associated with super heroes. Kamen Rider is the only relevant one . That’s like saying bats are commonly associated with super heroes in the west because of Batman

After hearing you say that fairy is fine, tbh I kind of agree. It is definitely on the good side of things but honestly I think they need to nerf Moonblast instead. Make it 90 BP with only a 10% drop, just make it a flamethrower clone post gen 6. 95BP with no drawback and pretty broken secondary effect is just not okay. There’s physical fairies like Azu, Grimmsnarl, Granbull and they are completely fine. Most fairies just get away with clicking Moonblast.

THANK YOU! We don't need the Light and Sound types. They are so unnecessary. I still don't understand why people want them so bad.

Something I can definitely see GameFreak doing when adding a new type is to make them Legendary exclusive, somewhat similar to Terapagos, where despite them having their own strengths and weaknesses, it doesn’t throw the entire type matchup off balance since it’s only exclusive to that one Pokemon

Primal could work - bugs could easily be super effective and primal would also beat steel.

6:32 the way I rationalized steel being strong to the ghost and dark type is: Dark has a similar reason, I'm my head, to the fairy/dark matchup today, just with knights and some superheroes in place of fairies. In some ghost stories, they use mirrors to keep ghosts at bay and to capture them, and steel is arguably the closest thing to mirrors we have, outside of MAYBE sand-based ground types

Balance went out the window the moment they decided to Ur the Shifu, Callyrex the Shadow Rider, and Flutter the Mane

I think light would be super effective against bug because a large number of bug species are flying in the direction of light bulbs and then die because of the heat...

About steel resisting sound, I'd actually argue that sound would be super effective as sound travels faster through solids and liquids than it does through air

One thing, I think ice could potentially be immune to light with how reflective it can be

I am ngl Stellar type is underwhelming. I rarely ever see it being used other then using Tera Blast with contrary mons like Serperior or Enamorous.

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A Cosmic type would have been cool to introduce in Gen 7 for Solgeleo and Lunnala plus Necrozma! Since they are from another Dimension.

I generally agree with your stance, but I do think Sound could beat Steel, realistically. The big thing to consider is resonant frequencies: while most recognizable in an Opera Singer breaking glass with their voice, you also see it in things like the Millennium Bridge which was damaged by resonant frequency while being mostly Steel. Yes, that resonant frequency was from footfalls, not sound, but the underlying logic seems to me to be at least as good as a lot of other semi-dubious type interactions.

Why would steel resist sound, Given the right frequencies and pitches and a powerful enuff speaker of sorts you can shatter steel the same way an opera Singer can shatter a wine glass.

I've always maintained that Normal should've been super effective against Fairy. An average, ordinary person can capture a fairy in a bottle or a net. It would've given Normal a much-needed offensive boost in these modern times where Normal hasn't been a top dog type in seven generations.

Sound type can be super effective on both steel and fairy, vibration spread into metals (and for the same logic sound can be super effective on water too), about fairy, the power of music is known to be very powerful in fairytale worlds and can surpass any being. The sound type can be weak against the electro (the lightning comes before the thunder), against the fire type because a flame extinguishes the air that spread the vibrations (here the association is a little more complex). I can also think of other interactions based only on logic and not on an actual need for balance with most types, among the most valid with psycho, ghost and grass

Yo no hate JPR, but “new designs finna lit”? You gotta walk the plank for that one 😂

As a kid I had literal dreams as a type. Then we got fairy and I thought there's no way lights happening

Space/Cosmic type makes infinitely more sense than Sound and Light type There are so much outer space stuff in Pokemon, its baffling that its still not a thing. Its like going to an italian restaurant and they dont serve any kind of pasta dishes

6:29 Steel resisting Dark made far more sense than it resisting Ghost (or Psychic for that matter, as they would both just bypass the metal armor).

Oooo I've never seen that take on the Bug-Dark interaction before, and it makes sense.

Just by making Bug be strong or at least neutral against Fairy would be good. I see no reason for Fairy to resist it. I wanna see what the hell Tinker Bell would do against a swarm of wasps or one territorial Hercules Beetle.

We really forgot the war crimes ghosts are committing right now did we

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9:19 i actually think most bug types should hypothetically be weak to sound, as certain bat species use sound to hunt for things like moths, but also some moth species have adapted ways to counteract this such as making sounds with their wings to confuse the bat's echolocation somewhat, so it could honestly go either way

A light type would genuinely add perfect synergy to type balencing

Light can work since Ice reflects light from the sun becoming a resistance, light and dark can be super effective to eachother, light and fire resist eachother, light and electric resist eachother, and light and fairy are neutral to eachother

2:00 dont forget about ghost type! Dark types being used to balance out ghost types were important too

Steel being weak to sound is very, very logical. Harmonics plays a massive role in structural stability and ballistics, vibration waves can efficiently destroy metal as good as anything and metal conducts sound very well

Once when o was bored I came up with Chemical-type that was a counter for Steel. And was a bit different than Poison

Lore Wise, introducing a new type works since not all games take place in the same universe. Cass in Point: Ruby vs. Omega Ruby. I think Sound would be a good type, but it would hinder Psychic, Flying, maybe Fairy, but definitely Bug because the noise would be very disruptive to their focus. And Sound would be resisted by things such as Ground, Rock, Water, AND Steel since sound is muffled by them. Honestly, if you want to buff bug, we need a weather condition that is like a biblical swarm.

Another point against Cosmic is that in Japan, Psychic powers are often associated with space. That is why most space themed Pokemon are Psychic types.

Sound could beat steel and water with the justification of being able to better move through solids and liquids

The major problem with a nuclear type is that pokemon uranium already did it as a double edged sword that is only resistances is steel and itself and super effective again everything else, this literally only moved the chart more in steel's favor making the grass starter a no brainer due to getting steel as a second type. I would also like to mention that sound could be super effective against steel and water because both are very good at carrying vibrations and ice could resist it since it's very hard to hear anything from someone buried in snow, but rock could also be open to it and I think it has enough weakness.

I’ve been saying for years a Zombie or Cyber type would make so much sense

Light should've been a Type back in Gen 7 with the In Legendary Trio based on Light. Or at the very least, make it a property like Sound has been.