The Problems With a New Pokemon Type

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@JPRPokeTrainer98
@JPRPokeTrainer98 23 күн бұрын
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@ldmtag
@ldmtag 23 күн бұрын
The "gap" between the Bug type and the rest of them is not necessarilly the fault of the Bug type itself, it's more of a Bug pokemon issue. They all have BSTs at or below 500, no great abilities or exceptional moves. On paper Bug resists Ground, at least.
@ldmtag
@ldmtag 23 күн бұрын
BTW, Psychic is the light type. Or rather radiation type: - All the cosmic pokemon are Psychic types - Unowns, which are believed to be inspired by Hiroshima victims, are Psychic types - Mewtwo, which was partially based on nuclear weapons, is a Psychic type.
@Eldorriots
@Eldorriots 23 күн бұрын
Okay FalseSwipeGaming
@ldmtag
@ldmtag 23 күн бұрын
Sound type is not gonna be a thing simply because sound is a move category. It's a completely separate thing, like powder moves, moves, contact moves, etc. Thinking of sound as a potential type is as ridiculous as waiting for Punching or Sleep Inducing type.
@legthieff
@legthieff 23 күн бұрын
Your opinion on the light type “not having enough concepts” is wrong. It can be based off prisms, the colour spectrum, rainbows, abstract light, colour, types of man made lights, the list goes on. A lot of moves would realistically be good light type moves, light screen, dazzling gleam, etc, When the fairy type was added, 22 pokemon gained it. Here’s a list of pokémon that could gain the light type. (I will include pre-evolutions to keep things fair. 1. Chinchou 2. Lanturn 3. Helioptile 4. Heliolisk 5. Cosmog 6. Cosmoem 7. Lunala 8. Solgaleo 9. Necrozma 10. Xurkitree 11. Hattena 12. Hattrem 13. Hatterene 14. Pumpkaboo (It’s based off of a jack o’ lantern, but there have been pokémon that use plants before that aren’t grass type so this could work as such) 15. Gourgeist 16. Scream Tail 17. Iron Thorns 18. Miraidon 19. Voltorb (It explodes, explosions don’t always make fire, but they always make some kind of light unless it’s smoke, they either make light or fire and the explosion animation clearly shows light and zero fire.) 20. Electrode 21. Hisuian Voltorb 22. Hisuian Electrode. Not only have I named concepts, I’ve given existing pokémon the light type and I’ve even given the exact same amount that was added to fairy.
@MisterLitera1
@MisterLitera1 23 күн бұрын
We don't need new types. We need a rebalance of the current types.
@AlphaladZXA
@AlphaladZXA 23 күн бұрын
Pretty much this there's other types like psychic poison and bug that need buffs more than a new type to be added to counter what fairy? Maybe water or steel idk
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 23 күн бұрын
I dont think theres that much need to be a rebalance to types, most are good and ofc some will be bad, that's what rpg's are for, but some rebalance to types like Bug would be nice
@cathal_account9815
@cathal_account9815 23 күн бұрын
​@theamazingspooderman2697 I generally agree with you, although I would argue a slight nerf to steel and fairy would be positive, and a buff to psychic since that type should be powerful.
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 23 күн бұрын
*cough* Bug type *cough*
@metalhand333
@metalhand333 23 күн бұрын
@@AlphaladZXASteel already counters fairy
@Phoenix_Blader_93
@Phoenix_Blader_93 23 күн бұрын
The problem with adding new types is 1. Too many new fan made types are too gimmicky 2. Most type issues can just be reworked 3. Adding a new type will only temporarily solve the issue
@lwfawn
@lwfawn 23 күн бұрын
4. New types = new issues.
@evanc1480
@evanc1480 23 күн бұрын
5. Even if they add a 19th type, people will soon ask for another one
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog 23 күн бұрын
Heck you make a sound type, you basically gimp Normal type special attackers completely
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 23 күн бұрын
Point 2 and 3 were ignored when fairy type was added
@bradwhite5884
@bradwhite5884 22 күн бұрын
​@@Castersvarog Sound type isn't the same as normal type, sound would be about vocal, sonar and vibrational part of the Pokémon move pool, Pokémon like bats, dolphins and such would benefit with it, but other Pokémon types like steel or such would suit to matching with it, it would be super effective with water, steel type and such, not very effective then other typing also, not too hard, but I do agree with the OP, we need to sort out the current typings first before adding a new one, even the Stellar type even though not a true typing kinda complicates things tbh
@Ranger-bt1pz
@Ranger-bt1pz 23 күн бұрын
I got the feeling that the stellar type will be forgotten as soon as legends Za comes out
@mazharsiddiqi7288
@mazharsiddiqi7288 23 күн бұрын
Especially with old and new Megas in PLZA
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 23 күн бұрын
ofc because stellar type is not a new type, it's a new tera type
@ichadpromax
@ichadpromax 23 күн бұрын
​@@theamazingspooderman2697Exactly. People need to realize that Stellar type is not a traditional Pokémon type
@Aerith_GainsBro
@Aerith_GainsBro 23 күн бұрын
I forgot it was even a thing currently
@shadowdragun
@shadowdragun 23 күн бұрын
Specially since even if it was a normal type its a type with 2 movws, ine exclusive ti a legebdaey abd onw that always drops your attacking stats and has 0 interactions with the type chart
@ethlock2573
@ethlock2573 23 күн бұрын
You say you can't see Sound being super effective against Steel, but we must remember that sound, as a mechanical wave, propagates faster the denser the medium is, (that's why you can make the yoghurts on a string toy to communicate as a kid) so I can perfectly see a case being made as to why sound could beat steel no issue
@15_heidune72
@15_heidune72 14 күн бұрын
And sound would probably beat rock and water and ice for the same reasons. And it would beat fire because sound powered fire extinguishing robots are a thing.
@sonicbladex12
@sonicbladex12 8 күн бұрын
Maybe that might be true, but like he said it's harder to make that relation easily comprehensive. I'm too small brain to understand what you said, but I can see why water does more damage to fire. Especially for the intended audience, kids won't understand all that sciency jazz.
@cheeseeygamer2997
@cheeseeygamer2997 3 күн бұрын
​@sonicbladex12 sound travels faster through solid objects. If you stand on train tracks you'll feel it vibrate long before you hear a train. Same reason a light tap on metal cables produces a loud laser sound.
@iphaoftheisles3952
@iphaoftheisles3952 Күн бұрын
@@15_heidune72Sound beat Water? I feel like Water muffles noises…
@timestorm5687
@timestorm5687 Күн бұрын
@@15_heidune72nope, snow cancels out sound so ice pokemon are actually resistant to it
@bravewater5737
@bravewater5737 23 күн бұрын
1:43 to skip the sponsorship.
@MegafanX123
@MegafanX123 14 күн бұрын
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@blairspace2274
@blairspace2274 8 күн бұрын
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@AdeptCharon
@AdeptCharon 23 күн бұрын
"Steel would definitely resist Sound" That's crazy, I always think the exact opposite. Put on some layers of steel armor and then stand on a riverbank while a giant vibrating transport ship passes by. When I picture a Metagross getting hit by a Hyper Voice that's been re-typed into a Sound type, I imagine its brains being vibrated to mush (as I'd picture Steel AND Psychic to be weak to it... as well as Electric and Fighting..)
@parkershaw3753
@parkershaw3753 23 күн бұрын
Completely agree on Steel and Psychic. I imagine it like Thunder damage in D&D
@bradwhite5884
@bradwhite5884 22 күн бұрын
I think Ground should be resist to sound, but then again sound can sometimes travel through the ground, but Rock would be weak against sound if enough vibration could crack rocks tbh, also some sounds associates with ground like earthquakes and such, some ground type moves could change to sound, unless leave ground types alone or some sound types are just ground types tbh, so there's that Also, what about Cyber type? Maybe a glorified Electric type with few of its abilities, resistance and such gets changed or swapped around, so there's that tbh
@robertbounds2807
@robertbounds2807 20 күн бұрын
Totally agree. Steel should b weak to Sound. IMO, Sound should only be super effective against Steel. Resist Water and Rock, cuz it can travel easily thru water and break rocks( but Rock absolutely doesn't need nother weakness). Be resisted by Ground and Dragon.
@Nuclearstomp
@Nuclearstomp 20 күн бұрын
The thing is a lot of steel Pokemon aren't organic so this wouldn't apply universally.
@kageedgar4002
@kageedgar4002 14 күн бұрын
There are sound frequencies that can bring down giant bridges. Sound is the most supereffective against steel
@drewbernert7050
@drewbernert7050 23 күн бұрын
I think a big part of the argument as to why fairy can be considered the best type is that firstly, poison and steel types are still not the best types offensively. Fairy is the only relevant type steel and poison hit for super effective damage. This leads into my second point that steel itself is much worse offensively than fairy. Again, fairy is the only relevant type that steel hits for super effective damage while fairy hits the important types of dragon, dark, and fighting. Moonblast is considered one of the most spammable moves in the game for a reason
@MontenegroPlus
@MontenegroPlus 23 күн бұрын
they got too much power, too fast...even bug as if anyone needed that.
@youtube-kit9450
@youtube-kit9450 22 күн бұрын
To be fair, moonblast is a stupid move in general. 95 power instead of the standard 90, wide distribution, and for some reason iirc its drop chance is 30%. Compare that to play rough, which is weaker, has worse accuracy and its chance to drop attack is 10%. Moonblast is a stupid move even without fairy being broken.
@twotamatos
@twotamatos 22 күн бұрын
Starting out my friend ran a lot of sand storm/steel teams and they used to be a menace but eventually yah u realize Water and fire are probably the 2 best typings. I think fairy/ghost are up there too but yah steel has to be one of the best types but it has its weakness not as tough to counter as some niche ones like electric that have 1 counter typing they can negate list goes on and on fire, ground, fighting most likely water hits pretty good it doesn’t have as many resistances as you think it’s honestly just poison resistant and elemental but there’s a lotta 2X weakness that can die to stab hits like nothing if ur not carful doesn’t matter the stats with steel so yah it isn’t as good as I thought just having base stats was the only thing keeping it afloat the typing is a mixed bag
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 20 күн бұрын
We don't have any solid physical Steel type moves with good bp.
@twotamatos
@twotamatos 20 күн бұрын
@@Nosretep iron tail and Metor mash are good, u just have to use gravity or baton pass some accuracy for iron tail
@roberteospeedwagon8178
@roberteospeedwagon8178 23 күн бұрын
I have a new type to beat Steel: Jet Fuel type.
@Mike_Ka-Chowski
@Mike_Ka-Chowski 8 күн бұрын
Pretty sure that's just Mega Latias and Latios
@ShadowXeldron
@ShadowXeldron 23 күн бұрын
Nuclear was Uranium's gimmick. In exchange for all Nuclear-types being weak to all types except Nuclear, the type beat every other type in the game except for itself... and Steel. All it did was require you to bring a Steel-type with you during the campaign. If they want to factor in concepts like ionising radiation or gamma rays then they should probably just make it Poison-type.
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog 23 күн бұрын
Interestingly they only ever made one pure steel type mon, and it was only available as a third stage evolution to a steel/rock type line.
@ShadowXeldron
@ShadowXeldron 23 күн бұрын
@@Castersvarog I think I used it in my playthrough. Wasn't it the unicorn thing?
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog 23 күн бұрын
@@ShadowXeldron nah it was the odd orange horse with a round head
@Mirawaru
@Mirawaru 23 күн бұрын
6:00 Ground is the most unbalanced type alongside steel change my mind 99% of ground types can just spam earthquake with literal 0 consequences unless you have a flying type. The fact you have to often consider a ground type counter in water and ice monotypes despite being in advantage to it speaks for itself.
@arininquotes8396
@arininquotes8396 23 күн бұрын
That's not really an unbalance in the type CHART though, more so an imbalance in the mons who ARE ground type (with their movepools), which is a somewhat different discussion. They could just pull back on who learns Earthquake in Gen 10 like they did with Scald in Gen 9.
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 23 күн бұрын
Clearly you never play doubles. 😂
@furby9284
@furby9284 23 күн бұрын
Competitive Pokémon is played in doubles. Earthquake is better for playthroughs unless you play your team around it.
@pussmagic1541
@pussmagic1541 23 күн бұрын
Ground should have been resisted by Rock-Types and also resisting it because rocks can alter what the dirt and soil will go through and cause erosion.
@leebulger7112
@leebulger7112 22 күн бұрын
@@arininquotes8396 With that said I say they should bring Scald back to what it was just for giggles.
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache 23 күн бұрын
I'm calling it now. Game Freak will probably never add another type, mainly due to balancing reasons, and also because they would need to reapply the new type to older Pokémon and now that there are over 1,000 Pokémon. Yeah I think they're comfortable with the current 18 types.
@Skeloperch
@Skeloperch 23 күн бұрын
Reapplying a new type to older types is not actually difficult at all. One intern could accomplish it in all of 10 minutes.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 23 күн бұрын
​@@Skeloperch but it's GF we are talking about ie. lazy and cutting corners
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog 23 күн бұрын
IN addition, the devs are extremely consistant when it came to adding new types to older mons. They only ever add the new type as a secondary type like with Gardevoir, or completely change their type if they're normal type. You wont see a light type added because The Light trio wont ever drop a type for a different one
@user-uh3lz4jl2c
@user-uh3lz4jl2c 23 күн бұрын
No more new types
@Bionickpunk
@Bionickpunk 23 күн бұрын
Plus there really is no marketing reason to do so. Fairy being introduced made sense cause Pokemon has a large girl fanbase that likes cute stuff.
@LuDogg805
@LuDogg805 22 күн бұрын
(5:54-6:40) As a competitive player, let me correct you why Fairy is seen as broken. - Steel may have more defensive resistances, but offensively it isn't strong, especially their secondary effects, also their accuracy aren't always the best. - Water is know for being tanky, but it has no immunities... Water also doesn't have good secondary effects... other than Scald which was nerfed in distribution... there's also ways to reduce it's power with abilities and weather. - Fire is also great, one of my faves, but there's ways to reduce their Fire power with abilities, and weather. Now let's look at Fairy... their accuracy doesn't suck, the worst one is Play Rough at 90%... and there's no real way to reduce their attacks. Let's look at some other moves shall we... - Baby Doll Eyes: Lowers attack; has priority 1 - Dazzling Gleam: Base 80 spread move, that doesn't miss. - Decorate: Increases attack and sp.attack by 2 stages, bypasses your allies Protect, and Detect - Draining Kiss: Base 50 attack but steals 75% HP back - Moonblast: Base 95 after the universal 95>90 nerf... it has a 30% chance to reduce sp.attack unlike the common 10% - Play Rough: Base 90 with 90% accuracy with a 10% chance to reduce attack. (fairest Fairy move) - Spirit Break: signature move yes, but always reduces sp.attack on a relevant DOU Pokemon And this is just a few... not to mention Misty Explosion and Strange Steam... other decent moves.
@Nuclearstomp
@Nuclearstomp 20 күн бұрын
I mean from a competitive standpoint specifically... BDE: Bad move. Dazzling Gleam: Is pretty weak with no secondary effect. Sure it's a spread move... but it's an 80 power spread move. Decorate: Is only on Alcremie, which is a bad Pokemon. Draining Kiss: Is only really good on Triage Comfey in lower single tiers tiers, otherwise it's a bad move. Moonblast: Is a REALLY good move. Play Rough: Generally balanced. A lot of mons that want this move don't even have it. Spirit Break: Is only on 2 Pokemon, both of which could completely live without it. Moonblast is arguably the only fairy move that is in any way broken that isn't a legendary signature move.
@Faniwa828
@Faniwa828 19 күн бұрын
There was no reason for it to resist Bug lol
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 17 күн бұрын
​@@Faniwa828 It should be all the way around
@LuDogg805
@LuDogg805 15 күн бұрын
@@Nuclearstomp You can make this argument for literally any type/Pokemon, however it's the fact that it's not easily resisted... or way to completely be immune to it. The only type combinations that can really stop it... Steel/Fire and Poison/Fire... which is only 2 Pokemon... oh I also forgot to mention Fairy indirectly gets tankier because the most common side effect is nerfing a type of attack.
@Nuclearstomp
@Nuclearstomp 15 күн бұрын
@@LuDogg805 I'm just saying the moves specifically aren't the issue. Except maybe moonblast since it's so strong and has distribution to almost all fairies.
@rockinslugz
@rockinslugz 23 күн бұрын
I actually think sound should be super effective against steel. Think about reverberation.
@Mike_Ka-Chowski
@Mike_Ka-Chowski 8 күн бұрын
Steel conducts electricity too but it's not weak to electric
@greninjaguy5264
@greninjaguy5264 6 күн бұрын
​@Mike_Ka-Chowski steel is more inorganic pokemon than organic, and they must be used to conducting electricity so it doesn't nearly effect them as much as other types. Meanwhile loud sounds can destroy things and disable devices, and since it is more of a hemorrhage than a clean cut like steel, it can be more effective (just watch grogginess stupid video for why scream tail getting far in terminalmontage's paradox battle "makes sense"
@jmhguy
@jmhguy 23 күн бұрын
There is a problem with the Sound type: There are plenty of non-normal sound based moves and all of them, even the normal ones, are not Physical moves, only Special and Status. Non-Normal type includes: Metal Sound Steel, Grass Whistle Grass, Bug Buzz Bug, Snarl Dark, Disarming Voice Fairy, Parting Shot Dark, Sparkling Aria Water, Clanging Scales Dragon, Clangorous Soulblaze Dragon, Clangorous Soul Dragon, Overdrive Electric, Eerie Spell Psychic, Torch Song Fire, Alluring Voice Fairy, Psychic Noise Psychic. What are we going to do with them? And no, don't retcon them and give them the “Flying Press” treatment.
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 23 күн бұрын
Actually, that's a good point: what would a physical Sound-type move even be?
@aaronculebro8672
@aaronculebro8672 21 күн бұрын
​@@robertlupa8273maybe a clap rigth at your face, but idk, that's quick idea
@Blazertronics523
@Blazertronics523 15 күн бұрын
​@@aaronculebro8672 Actually that move does exist. It's called Fake Out I think...
@unreal_idk.
@unreal_idk. 12 күн бұрын
@@robertlupa8273 kind of a strech but i just thought of it and i felt like it could somewhat work idk Mob Call: The user produces a sound that alerts mobs. The mobs attack the opponent. since you arent using sound to hit them but rather using sound to call physical entities that attack the opponent, it can be physical
@Yanis-choco
@Yanis-choco 3 күн бұрын
I think we can give them the flying press treatment but differently. The move shouldn't be fight AND flying but fight OR flying depending of the enemy. That pretty better don't you think ?
@ethantreadway9478
@ethantreadway9478 23 күн бұрын
Alternate Title: Why Changing the Type Chart is much better than adding a New Type.
@grateoraclelewot6326
@grateoraclelewot6326 23 күн бұрын
This doesn't help with balance, but conceptually I'm surprised that more people don't consider separating Flying into Bird and Wind. I guess you can see it as Flying being like Fairy where it's a single concept that can encompass multiple things, but almost every element system in other media has some form of wind. It's always felt weird that Pokemon lumps it in with Flying.
@costby1105
@costby1105 23 күн бұрын
Due to new abilites in Gen 9 wind is already a sub catagory spanning not only Flying but also Fire, Ice, Grass, Ground, Electric and Fairy. Albiet three of them are due to the forces of Nature's New signature moves. Also Flying was originally the bird type before Gamefreak realized that more things than birds fly.
@ttan7293
@ttan7293 17 күн бұрын
huh?? Bird is just a type of animal. Should we have Dog type and Cat type next? what a dumb idea
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 23 күн бұрын
Fairy type needed to happen... But I _really_ don't think it was necessary to make them immune. Just a resistance would have sufficed. They tend to do that a lot... Just slap on an immunity for the type they're trying to nerf (they did it with dark type too). Also, we just don't need a "light type" when fairy already exists. Its basically the same thing.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 23 күн бұрын
I mean then rock and ground should be the same type too, they are almost the same
@sabercat5490
@sabercat5490 19 күн бұрын
They are not the same. Light can act as so many different things. That fairy would not be able to do in terms of theming.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 19 күн бұрын
@@sabercat5490 Like what? What "theming" could Light type possibly have? A light bulb Pokemon? Electric type. A heavenly angel Pokemon? Fairy or Flying. The opposite of dark type and the emodiment of good? Fairy again. The sun? Fire type. The moon? Fairy or Dark. Light magic? Psychic or Fairy. Ultra Necrozma??? Well okay sure you got me there... Jokes aside, there is nothing a light type could do for theming that can't already be done better by other types. Ultra Necrozma (literally the embodiment of light) is basically the only instance where Light Type would work better than anything else. And when referencing light itself is your only "theming" that doesn't open up many options for new Pokemon designs.
@sabercat5490
@sabercat5490 19 күн бұрын
@@lasercraft32 Light can have an aray of themes. You said light magic when in media presents light magic as, for the most part, something linked the holiness and or the heavenly realm or even the church. On top of that the gods and the church in media have always been the antithesis of fae or fairies. Light can be that of nature like you said the sun, which isnt fire but burning gas that is capable of giving off photons that we call light. Light in media is considered one of the elements and is seen as pure. Fairies are not pure. They are caring spirits that take care of nature and everything around them but still cause trouble from time to time. A light bulb mon can be both electic/light type cuz electicity creates light, whereas its not light itself. So basically light type can be the holy type, pure type, the heavenly type, one of the elemental types and the holitically good type.
@sabercat5490
@sabercat5490 19 күн бұрын
To add light type can be strong against fairy, dark, ghost and poison but weak to grass and dark. Resisted by fire, electric and ice and steel and water. It could be immune to itself. Light can resist fairy and fighting.
@DryBones271
@DryBones271 23 күн бұрын
Fairy, and Electric work as light. We don't need it. We also don't need wind, since they combined birds, wind, and air for Flying, so.... there you go.
@samguercho
@samguercho 22 күн бұрын
As much as psychic and normal worked as fairy
@s.m.4479
@s.m.4479 22 күн бұрын
I think flying is the worst idea for a type. Like why? What about Pokémon that fly but don't have flying type? I think they should split it in wind and bird types.
@samguercho
@samguercho 22 күн бұрын
@@s.m.4479 or just have "air" or "wind" type instead of "flying", at least it would make sense then that the ones flying not thanks to air, but some kind of levitation, would be clearly identified
@s.m.4479
@s.m.4479 22 күн бұрын
@@samguercho well if you think about it, most flying types are birds amd ultimately getting rid of flying type will cause a major backlash from the fanbase. So I suggest changing the name from "flying" to "bird", remove the type from non bird mons and add a wind/air type.
@samguercho
@samguercho 22 күн бұрын
@@s.m.4479 i m down for that, but then what would be the new offense/defense type resistance spread?
@1080ike
@1080ike 23 күн бұрын
In response to this video, I submit to you the romhack Pokemon: Too Many Types. That is all.
@EnigmaticGentleman
@EnigmaticGentleman 23 күн бұрын
At the end of the day everyone forgets that Pokemons target is kids first and foremost, and 18 types is already a lot to memorize for a kid.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 23 күн бұрын
I'd probably find it easier as a kid than I do as an adult.
@alexandresmgc374
@alexandresmgc374 22 күн бұрын
Should be less types. Like ground/Stone Should be EARTH TYPE,
@sophiasabkv1372
@sophiasabkv1372 17 күн бұрын
@@alexandresmgc374 Just as a meme: - Poison and Ghost should just be Dark type; - Bug, Flying and Fighting should just be Normal; - Ice should just be Water; - Electric could just be Fire (or combine them into "Energy/Plasma type"); - Psychic could just be Fairy (or even make both of them Normal type); - Plant and Steel could both be part of Earth type; - Dragons could be Dark type. Reducing the type chart to mere 5 types: Fire, Earth, Water, Normal and Dark.
@alexandresmgc374
@alexandresmgc374 17 күн бұрын
@@sophiasabkv1372 hahaha genius
@murozaki3547
@murozaki3547 23 күн бұрын
I would say these are the current issues with the Type Chart that are in urgent need of addressing, be it by re-balancing the current type match-ups or by adding a new type: Ice Type: Too many weaknesses and not a single resistance that it can actually make use of. Beforehand it was arguable this was a balancing choice due to their niche of being the only type with a strictly positive match-up against Dragons but even if that were the case, they were still weak back then and that reason is obsolete now that the Fairy Types have taken that niche. If there is a type that needs a defensive buff, it's ice, take away some of its weaknesses and give it some proper resistances for god's sake; Bug Type: Too many Types resist it, that is pretty much it, take away some Types' resistance to Bugs and they would not be top tier but would definitely be infinitely more usable; Poison Type: In a weird situation where it just falls a little bit short in both offensive and defensive properties, it is not terrible in either department, just sorta weak in both; Rock Type: Similar to Ice, too many weaknesses albeit not as bad as it does have some resistances. Another issue unrelated to Type match-ups is also that Rock lacks good moves that are accurate, which is another area it needs a buff in. There are also some types that are far from downright bad but could use a little help, mainly Grass, Psychic and Fighting. Again, none of them are downright bad, if we lived in a world they were the three worst types in the game as they are it would mean the type chart is pretty balanced all things considered.
@pussmagic1541
@pussmagic1541 23 күн бұрын
I have some suggestions. Ice should have been super effective against Water-Types for very obvious reasons. Ice should be able to resist Steel-Type Pokemon as most metal freeze on ice and the harsh cold. Most bugs and most people and normal animals can't survive the cold, I would also make Ice-Type super effective against Bug and Normal-Type Pokemon (which the latter of the two I think needs more weaknesses and types that resist it as it's the most basic type). To make the Ice-Type chart healthier, I would make Ice resist and be resisted by Rock and Fighting-Type Pokemon and making Fire-Types their only weakness. Poison should have been super effective against Bug and Normal-Type Pokemon for pretty obvious reasons. Bug-Types I would take away 2 types that they're super effective against, Grass and Psychic-Type. I would instead make them super effective against Ground, Dark, Ghost and Dragon-Types. Make Bug resist and be resisted by both Grass and Fairy-Types and make them no longer be resisted by Fighting-Types and do neutral damage instead, same thing for the relationship between Bug and Psychic-Type. Rock, where do I start? Rock should have ABSOLUTELY be super effective against Steel-Types because rocks can and will wreck most metal and steel and also can turn metal tools into rust (like ground, dirt and soil do), make them resist and be resisted by Ground and Fighting-Type Pokemon. This makes Pokemon like Diancie no longer having the x4 Steel-Type weakness (making Rock/Fairy-Type be weak to only Water and Grass-Types).
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 23 күн бұрын
the thing with Ice type is, all 4 types that are super effective on it make sense, Fire melts Ice, Fighting/Rock/Steel crushes Ice
@saskiaviking9447
@saskiaviking9447 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, ice could use one or more resistance. Ice should resist water (just like water resists ice) and maybe flying? For rock, I wonder if making it immune to fire would work? For bug and grass, make them resist fairy (because fairies don't usually damage nature). Remove the bug resistance for fairy. And if you want to nerf steel a bit, just remove one of its resistances (like they did with Ghost and Dark in gen 6). Dragon maybe?
@pussmagic1541
@pussmagic1541 22 күн бұрын
@saskiaviking9447 Or alternatively make Bug and Fairy-Types Pokemon resist each other since fairies often befriend bugs and some species of bugs are a part of some fairies' diets, and there are bugs that harm fairies as well. Grass and Bug-Types should resist each other instead of the latter be super effective against the former (execpt for Infestation) as some plants eat bugs (fly traps for example) and some insects and bugs help plants and crops rather than damaging them. Rock should resist Fighting and Ice-Types and also be resisted by them at the same time. And also make them super effective against Steel-Types because for similar reasons to why Steel is weak to Ground-Type Pokemon (with the execption of some Steel-Type moves that can resist Rock-Types better than others). Ice-Types should resist Fighting and Rock-Types and resist them back as ice can break rock formations and plently of fighters who can't stand the cold and get frost bites and vice versa. I would make them super effective against Water-Types as ice beats water (with moves that involve hot water cancelling out the weakness, especially Volcanian's signature move) and Normal-Type Pokemon as most normal animals and most normal people can't adapt to the cold. I would make them resist Steel-Type Pokemon instead of be weak to it because most metal freeze and get frost, making them not work properly. Or alternately, make them super effective against Steel-Types for those reasons (only few Steel-Type moves will be able to resist Ice-Types). I would make them super effective against Bug-Type Pokemon because most bugs can't survive the cold. Speaking of Normal-Type Pokemon, I think they should also be weak to Poison-Types as well as Ice and Fighting-Type Pokemon and get resisted by Fire, Water, Dark, Bug and Electric-Types. Fire because fire burns people and animals, dark and Bug since most people are scared of the dark and bugs (instead of making Psychic-Type weak to bugs, why not make them take neutral damage and make them resist Normal-Type Pokemon instead), water as most people can't survive huge waves and are not expert swimners and electric because most people can get strikes with electricity, especially lighting.
@user-jd5zt4of8q
@user-jd5zt4of8q 22 күн бұрын
Honestly almost all of these can be solved by splitting Poison into Poison and Acid/Nuclear
@Ankhaunt
@Ankhaunt 20 күн бұрын
Wait! Sound makes so much sense. Think it as vibrations. Just how with perfect frequency sound you can break glass, same as for steel. And whats an earthquake it's vibrations underground between tectonic plates. Energy travels faster via medium with closely packed molecules. Sound Super effective on - Steel, ground, fire, water, electric. Sound resisted by - grass, rock, ice, ghost, bug since they are mostly air and air trapped inside them which is a bad conductor of sound. Types super effective on sound - grass, flying, psychic, bug, rock (they dampen the vibrations or doesn't care) Types not effective on sound - electric ( needs flow of electrons but vibrations acts a resistance) Ghost and ground (water if needed)
@Ivashanko
@Ivashanko 23 күн бұрын
High intensity sound waves are already used in real life to weaken or break metals, so making it SE against Steel makes some sense. The type could be resisted by Ice and Bug, which is also nice.
@Ivashanko
@Ivashanko 23 күн бұрын
As for Fairy and Sound: Loud noises destroy natural balance and the harmony of nature.
@belovedwarrior3192
@belovedwarrior3192 23 күн бұрын
My problem is why would it be separate from Normal? Normal types along with several other types can use sound attacks but ultimately sound is just a pressure wave and has nothing to it besides that. Heck if anything it's closer to lighting because thunder is a result of thunder heating the air making it rapidly expand.
@Ivashanko
@Ivashanko 23 күн бұрын
@@belovedwarrior3192 Why would Rock be separated from Ground? Why is Flying a type and not Wind? Why are some types elements and others kinds of animals? Heck, Sound is distinct enough from Normal that few would question the split. It's far more different from Ground/Rock for instance.
@belovedwarrior3192
@belovedwarrior3192 23 күн бұрын
@@Ivashanko Rock's are based off of geodes like Limestone, Sandstone among others. Meanwhile Ground is based off of soil like Sand (which isn't the same but similar to Sandstone) Mud they are meant to be separate because they fall more into a gaseous/liquid state compared to very solid rock types. Flying is used instead of wind so that they can include Pokemon that can create wind by flapping wings but not actually tied to wind like say a wind spirit Pokemon. Sound feels to me that it is neutral and everybody can make a sound whether by their body or by using things like heat. most Pokemon that are sound themed are just really loud. The others are loud because they are using heat or electricity to create their sound. Heck even steel types could be sound because of the different series of metal instruments. So Sound is all over the place which I feel works against Sound instead of helping it. IMO by the way
@belovedwarrior3192
@belovedwarrior3192 23 күн бұрын
@@Ivashanko I didn't do that well of a description explaining the differences between rocks and ground. So I looked up what is the difference between rocks and soil and this is what I got in response Composition: Rocks are made of one or more minerals, while soil is formed of fine rock particles mixed with air, water, and organic matter from dead plants and animals. Hardness: Rocks are hard, while soil is loose. Formation: Rocks are formed through geological processes (sedimentary, metamorphic, or igneous), whereas soil is prepared through the disintegration of rocks. Use: Rocks are used for construction (e.g., walls and foundations), while soil is essential for plant growth12
@michaelb6660
@michaelb6660 23 күн бұрын
The steel problem isnt that big of a deal, it doesn't have incredibly strong moves like draco meteor, ourage, etc and its weaknesses are some of the most common offensive types (earthquake, fire blast, flare blitz, flamethrower)
@suiway
@suiway 23 күн бұрын
Plus fighting, which has a whooooooole bunch of really strong ridiculously common moves and is an extremely common type overall.
@BloodwyrmWildheart
@BloodwyrmWildheart 12 күн бұрын
"it doesn't have incredibly strong moves like draco meteor, ourage, etc" Steel Beam says hello.
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 23 күн бұрын
We need another "Eevee" type of Pokémon for the other remaining types (Ground, Ghost, Dragon, Bug, Steel, Rock, Fighting, Flying & Poison).
@edgargaebolg9307
@edgargaebolg9307 23 күн бұрын
Charcadet could become the new "Eevee", although Armarouge is a Psychic type
@RhysHill-ur8lq
@RhysHill-ur8lq 22 күн бұрын
An axe charcadet would be dark/fire. an spear charcadet would be water/fire. And a hammer charcadet would be steel/fire.
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 21 күн бұрын
I only want a Dragon Eeveelution. Dragon used to be a Special type before the split, and it's the last Special type without an Eeveelution.
@valistic7206
@valistic7206 20 күн бұрын
Or just give Eevee new evolutions
@Buphido
@Buphido 19 күн бұрын
Alternatively, Eevee itself is normal type which used to be physical but evolves into what used to be special as said above. So instead of a dragon eeveelution, a new mon who is base dragon (OG special) and evolves into all physical types. Gives one base form and 8 evolutions, just like Eevee.
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 19 күн бұрын
What we need specifically is something that beats and resists Steel and Fairy, resists Dragon, is weak and resisted by Grass and Bug, is resisted by Ice, and is weak to Poison. What the heck would THAT be?
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 2 күн бұрын
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@ronnymeow821
@ronnymeow821 Күн бұрын
@@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 it was just a lighthearted jokey joke, I apologize if I displeased you.
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@ronnymeow821 Күн бұрын
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@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail 7 күн бұрын
It should be noted that Fairy is technically a light type or a magic type. Dragon and Dark also work as magic types, with Dragon being an "Ancient" type and Dark being a "Darkness" type along with being evil.... Psychic also works for light as well because it's also a "cosmic" type due to how so many psychic issues work with cosmos and stars and etc.... And that's the issue with a lot of new types people try to create... they technically already exist as other types.... Even sound.... almost everyone makes sound. It's a normal thing....
@KanderUdon
@KanderUdon 16 күн бұрын
Problems with the type chart could pretty easily solved with just a few changes. Make psychic supereffective into steel(with psychic attacks going through steel, or the whole spoon bending thing), make bug resist fairy and psychic and make it neutral into ghost and fairy, and make ice resist water. I think all of these make intuitive sense, at least more than what we have currently, like why the hell does steel resist psychic? At the very least it should be neutral. This is probably the best way to fix the type chart currently. Although… I do think light COULD work as a new type, if only barely. At the very least, light is way better than sound as a new type. First of all, there are ~ thirty lines/individual pokemon that work with the light type while there are max like 25 that work with sound. Not that that is a big difference, but its something. Then, adding sound doesn’t really help the type chart much. I think the best it could do is be weak to bug and good into water, and maybe be weak to ice because of sound traveling less far in the cold? Sound would also basically have to be good into psychic since sound disrupts concentration and psychic already sucks. Light would be better since it could help bug, grass, ice, and rock(and ground) by hitting them for neutral(bugs like light, plants feed on light, ice reflects light, and rocks and ground mute light). Light also doesn’t need to beat dark, you can have light be supereffective against dark and dark be supereffective against light. Ok, but here’s the big thing. Adding sound comes with a bunch of other problems. First of all, it already exists in the game so stuff like throat spray and throat chop would have to either be reworked or removed. Then the problem of moves comes in. What do you do for a move like bug buzz? It already works perfectly as a bug type sound based move. By adding the sound type you would actually be taking something away from the move(either bug or sound). On top of that, you basically completely remove the only strong normal type special moves. Adding light as a type doesn’t come with any big problems like that. Basically all the potential light moves come from different types and could pretty cleanly be transformed into light type. And since light moves don’t exist, there isn’t the problem that sound has with sound based moves. Now to be fair, in order for light to work it would have to embody several ideas, similar to how flying represents literal flight, as well as wind, or how fighting is both martial arts and justice. For light I think this would mean it would represent physical light like xurkitree, as well as divinity like arceus, and general daytime stuff like lycanrock day form. In any case, I would prefer a simple revamp of the type chart, I just wanted to say that sound as a type SUCKS and light is much better.
@bugjuicereviews
@bugjuicereviews 23 күн бұрын
Maybe I'm trying to make something work out of nothing but if they were to add sound I think it could work as follows: 1. Resisted by bug since they often make sound (as mentioned in video) 2. Super Effective on Steel as the vibrations of sound can cause steel to become weaker/loose. 3. Super Effective against Fairy as since they are associated with fairy tales and sort of dream like situations, a loud sound can wake you up and therefore end the fairy tale. 4. Resisted by Dark as darkness doesn't care if there's sound and in space where it often considered dark, there is little to no sound. I'd also make Electric super effective against Steel and have Rock now also be super effective against Electric. I don't think I'd actually want this, but it's something I could see helping the type issues of everything.
@sabercat5490
@sabercat5490 19 күн бұрын
Why and how would Rock be super effective against Electric? Also i feel bug should be strong against Fairy.
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat 9 күн бұрын
Also give sound an immunity to sleep
@AshoreNevermore
@AshoreNevermore 18 күн бұрын
Sound beating Fairy and Water makes sense to me. Fairies are dainty, peaceful creatures that would be adverse to harsh, grating noises, while shockwaves are far more lethal underwater. Sound could give defensive utility to Rock, Ice (solid, unmoving elements) and Bug (creatures that are already super noisy). ... However, Steel would absolutely resist Sound, which is an issue. No clue what Sound would be weak to, either, other than itself and maybe Psychic (which could create their own shockwaves to "destroy/cancel out" sounds).
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat 9 күн бұрын
Steel amplifies sound due to reverberation, and most bugs can’t hear sound like that.
@AshoreNevermore
@AshoreNevermore 8 күн бұрын
@@kghostthegreat In that case, we'd go back to Rock and Ice being weak to it too, wouldn't we? Or, at least Ice. Maybe there could be a "Resonance" move that acts like Freeze-Dry. Super Effective against Steel, Ice and Rock, instead of being resisted.
@blackfrieza6969
@blackfrieza6969 21 күн бұрын
Gen 1 - 15 Types Gen 2 - 2 Types Gen 6 - 1 Type.
@UltimateFunBilly
@UltimateFunBilly 2 күн бұрын
Gen 1 - 1 pseudo-type (Bird) Gen 2 - 1 pseudo-type (???) Gen 3 - 1 pseudo-type (Shadow) Gen 9 - 1 pseudo-type (Stellar)
@blackfrieza6969
@blackfrieza6969 2 күн бұрын
@@UltimateFunBilly You're Right.
@castform7
@castform7 23 күн бұрын
I feel like a lot of the new type discussion really boils down to "we want a new type cause we think it would be cool". I don't think we solve much from a balancing perspective if we do bring in a new type especially since a lot of ideas are too abstract or don't actually do much without long reaching harder than Decidueye. The 18 types we have are fine and we should be focusing on ways to make the existing type chart better.
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 22 күн бұрын
Exactly. I think only a few buffs to Ice and Bug would be enough, personally. Bug should resist Fairy or be super-effective against it, or both. Ice should resist Water and maybe Dragon, and do neutral damage against Fire.
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 23 күн бұрын
Of all the fan-made types that people have come up with, the only two that can stand on their own is the Cosmic type & the Synthetic type, purely because they make logical sense, with extraterrestrial Pokémon and Pokémon made out of cardboard, plastic, paper, 3D polygons, etc. Sound fits perfectly as a property of moves, Light is too similar to Fairy, Mystic is too similar to Psychic, Nuclear is too similar to Poison, and Crystal is too similar to Rock. Plus, with Nuclear & Crystal, we now have Stellar as a type that is basically "Hits every type for at least neutral."
@user-oy2zg3bt6n
@user-oy2zg3bt6n 18 күн бұрын
when you think of it, even cosmic and synthetic don't hold up because they can easily be covered by other types. psychic already holds most cosmic pokemon, and if it's not psychic then it's clafairy or an UB/Paradox which are bound to have different types. meanwhile synthetic fits mainly to be spread out between grass, electric, water, steel and poison as differing products are made from such things. cardboard and paper are grass, code and polygons are electric (idk why porigon is no electric type), plastic is easy poison as a pollution mon and i can go on.
@RatedX29
@RatedX29 23 күн бұрын
Hi, I'm from the future. In gen 12 they introduced gold and diamond types. Every pokemon can become it, they hit everything super effective and resist everything. You just have to pay 2.99/4.99 per pokemon you want to have it
@tgyo99
@tgyo99 23 күн бұрын
A better question is when will we get the next Eevee evolution?
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 21 күн бұрын
​@@edgargaebolg9307 But Steel was never a Special type.
@edgargaebolg9307
@edgargaebolg9307 21 күн бұрын
@@miikaroos3809 True
@LuigiTheMetal64
@LuigiTheMetal64 23 күн бұрын
The reason there is no Light-type is because Dark-type is Evil-type in Japanese.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 23 күн бұрын
so Greninja and technically, Ash-Greninja are both EVIL? due to being Dark types?
@cathal_account9815
@cathal_account9815 23 күн бұрын
Well it's more so that psychic type is essentially the light type
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 23 күн бұрын
@@cathal_account9815 Or Steel, at least move-wise, 'cause Flash Cannon and Mirror Shot.
@KanderUdon
@KanderUdon 23 күн бұрын
@@robertlupa8273no fairy is the closest to light type steel just has a few moves but its nothing like light overall
@RasmusGuineaPig
@RasmusGuineaPig 22 күн бұрын
@@KanderUdonpsychic is easily way way closer to being a light type than the fairy type is. When you think of light themed Pokémon, which come to mind first? I’d say necrozma (especially ultra necrozma) who is the god of light, lunala (god of the moon) and Solgaleo (god of the sun). All of those three have the psychic type. And some other ones that kinda fit the light type are lunatone and solrock, both of which are psychic types. And I can’t really think of any fairy type that really fits the light type to that extent of the top of my head.
@tktyga77
@tktyga77 23 күн бұрын
The funny thing is, despite Gen 2 bringing in 2 new types that are both weak to Fighting, it took until Gen 3 for that to become actually good as that was mostly used to counter Normal before then (part of why Steel was brought in the first place)
@AmericanBrit9834
@AmericanBrit9834 23 күн бұрын
We’re not getting a new type unless we need a new type and currently we definitely don’t need a new one. We need rebalancing.
@blazedj
@blazedj 23 күн бұрын
While I wouldn’t mind the addition of another type of- even it’s one that makes less sense to me - I also doubt that we’ll get another any time soon. The only reasons I can see it happening is if the developers want to shake things up a bit again, or it’s to ensure that things are a bit more equal. Saying that, I also believe that it’s more the specific Pokémon that throw off game balance rather than just the type itself. Flutter mane is as much a threat in the meta as it is because of its stats as much as its typing.
@MikalEdmunds
@MikalEdmunds 23 күн бұрын
3:25 JPR I love ya but “finna lit?” Do not let bro use slang again 💀 hahahaha jokes aside loved the video as usual!
@nikok8793
@nikok8793 23 күн бұрын
Fairy should’ve been resistant to dragon, not immune.
@kampy19
@kampy19 23 күн бұрын
Fairy did need to happen, but I also don't think it should be immune to dragon. Maybe just resist. Because fairy didn't really balance the type chart. It just replaced dragon as the strongest thing, and resulted in some pretty unfortunate centralization around the type. It's a bit better now, 3 gens out, but fairy types still tend to be disproportionately powerful.
@adorablush
@adorablush 23 күн бұрын
I think a great way to introduce a rebalance to current types would be through story/gameplay. For example, a new legendary ice-type whose supernatural powers affect the other elements differently in the region (or that timeline/universe). Like maybe hitting fire and water for neutral damage instead of being resisted, etc.
@jaspanini
@jaspanini 8 күн бұрын
I feel like sound could be super effective on steel since sound travels faster through solids, bug could be super effective on sound because that annoying sound mosquitoes make in your ear. Might be a stretch but there's already a lot of stretches in Pokémon types
@Zoroark_Master
@Zoroark_Master 23 күн бұрын
I feel like they wouldn’t change a Pokémon type of it isn’t monotype (keeping the original type while adding the new secondary type) or normal (replacing normal with the new type) so I don’t see them replacing necrozma psychic type with and other type for example
@SMBZYT
@SMBZYT 23 күн бұрын
I missed JPR Fridays
@SpencyRockMC
@SpencyRockMC 21 күн бұрын
To justify sound type a bit: - Metal amplifies sound very effectively because of reverb. If sound is amplified by steel, it is super effective to steel. - Most bugs cannot hear, you could even argue that they’d be immune to sound type! - Snow is very good at muffling sound, therefore sound would be not very effective to ice. - Fairy? Yeah… no idea. And I worry that nerfing steel types by adding sound types would only make fairy types stronger, which most people don’t want. I think Sound fixes a lot of smaller issues, but it risks creating one giant issue.
@ovite1240
@ovite1240 23 күн бұрын
i do think it would make sense for light type to be weak to bug because bugs are attracted to light i also think it would make sense for electric types to be strong against steel cuz steel and copper conducts eletricity (some logic as water type).
@edgargaebolg9307
@edgargaebolg9307 23 күн бұрын
Bugs being attracted to light sounds more like a weakness to the bugs. Not that they need it
@ovite1240
@ovite1240 22 күн бұрын
@@edgargaebolg9307 I think it can go either way
@chrisventura3070
@chrisventura3070 22 күн бұрын
It is difficult to implement, but SOUND is the only type that I think may be possible to introduce. For steel, although it occurs in specific circumstances, sound does affect metal structures, this is due to vibrations that can alter the structure or shape of metals, this is called: "Vibration fatigue", so ...can be effective if you look at it from that perspective.
@BloodwyrmWildheart
@BloodwyrmWildheart 12 күн бұрын
IMO, the main problem with sound is that it's already a classification for moves (see the ability Soundproof).
@umwha
@umwha 19 күн бұрын
2:39 Bugs are not ‘commonly’ associated with super heroes. Kamen Rider is the only relevant one . That’s like saying bats are commonly associated with super heroes in the west because of Batman
@glenharrell3243
@glenharrell3243 23 күн бұрын
I would like to see a tech(technological) type - made by humans or that have interactions with virtual reality, a food type - it would be pokemon focused on food, and a fossil type - based on dinosaurs and other ancient extinct creatures.
@StickMaster500
@StickMaster500 23 күн бұрын
Something I can definitely see GameFreak doing when adding a new type is to make them Legendary exclusive, somewhat similar to Terapagos, where despite them having their own strengths and weaknesses, it doesn’t throw the entire type matchup off balance since it’s only exclusive to that one Pokemon
@Judgementday3010
@Judgementday3010 22 күн бұрын
A lot of fairies weren't pink when first introduced, though. If you want a rough type, all fire types have red, orange, or yellow in their design, with only roughly 5 exceptions.
@MontenegroPlus
@MontenegroPlus 23 күн бұрын
Dragon makes sense being strong because they usually take forever to evolve, just don't make as many of them. (and do something for those who play competitive)
@thewhatness
@thewhatness 23 күн бұрын
I've always maintained that Normal should've been super effective against Fairy. An average, ordinary person can capture a fairy in a bottle or a net. It would've given Normal a much-needed offensive boost in these modern times where Normal hasn't been a top dog type in seven generations.
@TheHistorySoldier
@TheHistorySoldier 23 күн бұрын
That would make Fairy-type basically unusable during storyline gameplay though.
@edgargaebolg9307
@edgargaebolg9307 23 күн бұрын
I've said that too, although my logic was that magic disappears when nobody believes in it
@nellewoodruff6337
@nellewoodruff6337 23 күн бұрын
Natural versus supernatural, Normal versus abnormal
@king_of_rats_Monfernep
@king_of_rats_Monfernep 23 күн бұрын
The normal type is made more to cause NORMAL damage to everyone. I'm thinking more about Fairy being able to hit ghosts and also having more resistances and less weak matchups. Just make resistance to the fairy Normal, because normal people trust flattery more than the hard truth
@pussmagic1541
@pussmagic1541 23 күн бұрын
No, I disagree. I think Normal-Types and Fairy-Types should have stayed neutral. We don't need to nerf the Fairy-Types, it's Steel-Types that needs to be nerfed ASAP.
@Exaltable
@Exaltable 23 күн бұрын
I think sound would actually work very well for bug and steel if you think about it more like sound waves and vibrations. Many insects have limited or no hearing and are uneffected by loud sounds(this could straight up even be built in soundproof). While steel carries vibrations throughout itself or they just penetrate the hard surface. Could also have strong counters to things like water too if you did a bit of stretching with the vibration.
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat 9 күн бұрын
Sound travels farther in water as well
@hyun-shik7327
@hyun-shik7327 23 күн бұрын
The Kalos type chart really should be the forever type chart. Change should come by adding individual pokemon, abilities, and held items to rebalance the meta.
@SJMan2022
@SJMan2022 23 күн бұрын
8:08 Can you not just say USUM came out 7 years ago so casually?
@ofAwxen
@ofAwxen 23 күн бұрын
In order to nerf steel, there could be a C-4 type, but that would be super effective against everything else too
@Xeroxmyassiluv
@Xeroxmyassiluv 22 күн бұрын
Lmao
@BasicComicsEnjoyer
@BasicComicsEnjoyer 22 күн бұрын
They could just keep Stellar, and simply make it so Stellar Pokemon are weak to other Stellar Pokemon. So pretty much making it like Ghost type in Gen 1. As for Pokemon thatll be changed into Stellar? Ditto, Arceus, Regigigas, Genesect and Type-Null. Ditto, Regi, Arceus and Type could be Normal/Stellar while Genesect gets Stellar/Bug in base form. And they can have so Stellar Pokemon gets stab for all types lmao. (This is why it should become a legendary only typing.
@LisaAnnOberbrunner
@LisaAnnOberbrunner 23 күн бұрын
Regardless of what types are objectively good, dragon and fairy are my favorite types. I also really like water and steel types. Flying is also cool.
@ZachaRicO
@ZachaRicO 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, new types are introduced to put massively overpowered types in check. We don't have a situation like that right now, so there's no real need for anything new.
@MasterAbeer101
@MasterAbeer101 23 күн бұрын
I am ngl Stellar type is underwhelming. I rarely ever see it being used other then using Tera Blast with contrary mons like Serperior or Enamorous.
@mazharsiddiqi7288
@mazharsiddiqi7288 23 күн бұрын
Stellar Chien-Pao and Flutter Mane are pretty common and useful Stellar Chien Pao with Focus Sash can use the single time STAB boosts and focus more on offense Stellar Flutter Mane is just there to D Gleam or Moon Blast Miraidon/Koraidon or Stellar Blast them if Terra for consistent Super Effective damage and it's immunities to there STABs Also to KO terra restricted immediately as well
@lucatan6985
@lucatan6985 16 күн бұрын
The problem with Bug is that too many types resist it. Giving it one new type to be supereffective against doesn't help if half the opponent's team still resists it, making switches against it too easy. It sucks offensively and one good interaction isn't going to change that. The better solution would be imo to make Bug a defensive type. It already has a super valuable resistance against Ground, giving it a few more might really make it valuable as a secondary type for defensive purposes. Giving Bug a resistance to Fairy and Ghost would really help the type imo since both of those resistances would be really valuable and both of those types could also use the nerf. To nerf Steel, I think it should be weak to Water, since wetness makes it rust. To balance out water, it should also gain a new weakness in turn, and I propose Poison. Poison could definitely use the buff, and with pollution and with acidification due to climate change, more and more water reservoirs are becoming toxic and killing their inhabitants. This interaction thus already has a match in the real world and could serve as a grim reminder of the value of nature, just like Cursola already does (so we have in-game precedent for that too).
@GroundThing
@GroundThing 23 күн бұрын
I generally agree with your stance, but I do think Sound could beat Steel, realistically. The big thing to consider is resonant frequencies: while most recognizable in an Opera Singer breaking glass with their voice, you also see it in things like the Millennium Bridge which was damaged by resonant frequency while being mostly Steel. Yes, that resonant frequency was from footfalls, not sound, but the underlying logic seems to me to be at least as good as a lot of other semi-dubious type interactions.
@kingwhacka8105
@kingwhacka8105 13 күн бұрын
After hearing you say that fairy is fine, tbh I kind of agree. It is definitely on the good side of things but honestly I think they need to nerf Moonblast instead. Make it 90 BP with only a 10% drop, just make it a flamethrower clone post gen 6. 95BP with no drawback and pretty broken secondary effect is just not okay. There’s physical fairies like Azu, Grimmsnarl, Granbull and they are completely fine. Most fairies just get away with clicking Moonblast.
@ninomitchell2039
@ninomitchell2039 6 күн бұрын
6:32 the way I rationalized steel being strong to the ghost and dark type is: Dark has a similar reason, I'm my head, to the fairy/dark matchup today, just with knights and some superheroes in place of fairies. In some ghost stories, they use mirrors to keep ghosts at bay and to capture them, and steel is arguably the closest thing to mirrors we have, outside of MAYBE sand-based ground types
@shybaka2892
@shybaka2892 23 күн бұрын
Make Bug super effective against Normal. I wanna see some chaos.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 23 күн бұрын
I always thought Dark was weak to Bug because the devs thought it would be funny. XD
@bobbydhopp65
@bobbydhopp65 17 күн бұрын
I thought it was because bugs are gigachads.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 17 күн бұрын
@@bobbydhopp65 Maybe its both. I don't think they're mutually exclusive XD
@Sparkive
@Sparkive 13 күн бұрын
Sound and Light = Wave You can call it wave type and you can choose between more things for designs and attacks, no idea what their interactions between types would be like At the same time, since it is very general, you can ignore parts of it at your convenience and people probably won't notice. Cosmic = there are some pokemon that could go in... but a pokemon shouldn't be a type because it comes from space, and things like meteors or stars are easily covered by other types Nuclear = Expecific, how do you justify that there are too many pokemons of this type without having to resort to "blame of nuclear contamination" Time = Just not In the end I say that if there is a new type, it should benefit the ice and/or bug type (in addition to obviously nerfing the overpower type which is the reason for its existence), I mean, a Technology type would probably be weak to Bug, Besides, there are already a few pokemons that could become that type, along with some attacks, and it is an excuse for several different designs... although now that paradox pokemons exist, it would probably be impossible, it would basically make them less unique by half. of special pokemons of the ninth gen In general, there is no room for a new type, the options... are not good enough, or directly bad
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 23 күн бұрын
I would not mind another type or two later down the line assuming it makes sense and fits in with the rest. But I am fairly sure there will never be a Sound or Light type, mostly because they are already covered by other types. Sound is already covered by the Normal-type as a lot of Pokemon that has sound-related themes, such as Jigglypuff, Exploude amd Meloetta are all Normal-type (except for Kricketot and Kricktune) and Light is already covered by the Fairy and Electric-type, such as Lanturn, Dedenne, Heliolisk and Shiinotic.
@AlishahChator
@AlishahChator 11 күн бұрын
Anyone know what theme is playing starting around the 4:21 mark and continuing thru the fairy section?
@deejayf69
@deejayf69 4 күн бұрын
I don't understand why any WOULD want more Pokémon types. We already have such a big pool that can combine for even more variation. Quantity doesn't equal quality.
@Purple.mind...Honored.one.
@Purple.mind...Honored.one. 3 күн бұрын
Why would steel resist sound, Given the right frequencies and pitches and a powerful enuff speaker of sorts you can shatter steel the same way an opera Singer can shatter a wine glass.
@captaincaterpie
@captaincaterpie 23 күн бұрын
Sound is a lot better for the type balancing than you think. First and foremost it'll most likely be neutral to steel, as sound and steel don't really interact, but sound does interact with water and the air so it'll be super effective to water and flying, but would also deal super effective damage to fairy due to sound pollution. Not only that but a type like bug would be buffed because of one key factor, most bugs in real life are deaf. So bug type would actually be immune to sound type, this was even shown in a johto special wher a trainer had her Jigglypuff sing at a beedrill but it didn't effect it at all, the reason was because of beedrills wing but we can say bugs are immune. We can also make ice type resists sound as sound waves travel slower in colder Temps! So actually sound is almost perfect
@inva88
@inva88 23 күн бұрын
But sound is already a mechanic in the games. And the interactions with other types are hypothetical, you can make sound super effective to every type: rock, ice and steel because sound travels faster in solid objects; psychic because you can't think with loud noises; fighting and normal because loud noises stun normal and trained people; poison because music can cure illness; ground because dirt can be move with sound waves ...
@jmhguy
@jmhguy 23 күн бұрын
There are plenty of non-normal sound type moves that are Special and Status, no Physical: Metal Sound Steel, Grass Whistle Grass, Bug Buzz Bug, Snarl Dark, Disarming Voice Fairy, Parting Shot Dark, Sparkling Aria Water, Clanging Scales Dragon, Clangorous Soulblaze Dragon, Clangorous Soul Dragon, Overdrive Electric, Eerie Spell Psychic, Torch Song Fire, Alluring Voice Fairy, Psychic Noise Psychic. What are we going to do with them? And no, don't retcon them and give them the “Flying Press” treatment.
@captaincaterpie
@captaincaterpie 23 күн бұрын
@@jmhguy There are plenty of moves that could be different types. A good example is the move darkest lariat, incineroars signature move. It's a dark type attack because it's a clothesline from hell, a specific type of lariat, but it could also be a fighting type attack because it's a lariat. Strength could be a fighting type attack, sandstorm can be ground, bulldoze can be steel, etc. Essentially just figure out which one makes more sense. Fire punch is a punch so it can be considered a fighting type attack BUT it's specifically a punch made of fire so it's fire. A move like bug buzz would most likely stay bug due to it specifically being the buzzing of a bug's wings so that makes sense for it to be bug and not sound. Moves like snarl and clanging scales would be made into the new sound type because they are not specific to a type, clanging scales is just a pokemon clanging its scales, not specifically dragon scales. It's just that only a dragon type learns it.
@jmhguy
@jmhguy 23 күн бұрын
@@captaincaterpie but bug buzz still makes a sound so it has to change into the sound type
@inva88
@inva88 23 күн бұрын
@@captaincaterpie there like 5 sound special attacks not connected to a type, and a few status like growl that doesn't matter the type, so an only special type The rest of the moves are connected to other types, for example clangorous scales it's a sound move but it uses scales that are a dragon theme and the purple dragon energy like the other dragon moves, it isn't a generic sound move that needs a type to better represent it The other problem is the sound mechanics,¿ the moves that wouldn't change type would still benefit from punk rock? And most sound based pokemon already have two types that represent them well like primarina, skelerdirge, toxtricity, noivern, seismitoad... The other new types only replaced the normal type. It would limit what a sound based pokemon can be.
@cinnamondotpng
@cinnamondotpng 6 күн бұрын
9:19 i actually think most bug types should hypothetically be weak to sound, as certain bat species use sound to hunt for things like moths, but also some moth species have adapted ways to counteract this such as making sounds with their wings to confuse the bat's echolocation somewhat, so it could honestly go either way
@demonfusiongamer7995
@demonfusiongamer7995 6 күн бұрын
About steel resisting sound, I'd actually argue that sound would be super effective as sound travels faster through solids and liquids than it does through air
@gavinaaric
@gavinaaric 23 күн бұрын
Happy Everyweek JPR Friday!!!
@meinelangeweile3028
@meinelangeweile3028 9 күн бұрын
I think light would be super effective against bug because a large number of bug species are flying in the direction of light bulbs and then die because of the heat...
@SuperbGorilla
@SuperbGorilla 22 күн бұрын
Primal could work - bugs could easily be super effective and primal would also beat steel.
@42dusk45
@42dusk45 23 күн бұрын
The major problem with a nuclear type is that pokemon uranium already did it as a double edged sword that is only resistances is steel and itself and super effective again everything else, this literally only moved the chart more in steel's favor making the grass starter a no brainer due to getting steel as a second type. I would also like to mention that sound could be super effective against steel and water because both are very good at carrying vibrations and ice could resist it since it's very hard to hear anything from someone buried in snow, but rock could also be open to it and I think it has enough weakness.
@Tenc5123
@Tenc5123 9 күн бұрын
Sound type can be super effective on both steel and fairy, vibration spread into metals (and for the same logic sound can be super effective on water too), about fairy, the power of music is known to be very powerful in fairytale worlds and can surpass any being. The sound type can be weak against the electro (the lightning comes before the thunder), against the fire type because a flame extinguishes the air that spread the vibrations (here the association is a little more complex). I can also think of other interactions based only on logic and not on an actual need for balance with most types, among the most valid with psycho, ghost and grass
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 23 күн бұрын
A Cosmic type would have been cool to introduce in Gen 7 for Solgeleo and Lunnala plus Necrozma! Since they are from another Dimension.
@RasmusGuineaPig
@RasmusGuineaPig 22 күн бұрын
Yeah but a light type would fit those 3 even better
@SuperBroGaming-se6br
@SuperBroGaming-se6br 23 күн бұрын
Honestly, JPR just straight spitting facts today. We don't need a new type at the moment, we just don't.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 23 күн бұрын
his opinions for me are 99% well received ngl, we both share the same opinions a lot of times
@SuperBroGaming-se6br
@SuperBroGaming-se6br 22 күн бұрын
I completely agree
@BloodwyrmWildheart
@BloodwyrmWildheart 12 күн бұрын
6:29 Steel resisting Dark made far more sense than it resisting Ghost (or Psychic for that matter, as they would both just bypass the metal armor).
@CyberAngel573
@CyberAngel573 23 күн бұрын
Lore Wise, introducing a new type works since not all games take place in the same universe. Cass in Point: Ruby vs. Omega Ruby. I think Sound would be a good type, but it would hinder Psychic, Flying, maybe Fairy, but definitely Bug because the noise would be very disruptive to their focus. And Sound would be resisted by things such as Ground, Rock, Water, AND Steel since sound is muffled by them. Honestly, if you want to buff bug, we need a weather condition that is like a biblical swarm.
@shachargold6896
@shachargold6896 23 күн бұрын
If I were to try and excuse Sound as a Type that works against Steel, I would probably use how from scientific perspective, sound transfer and heat transfer are closely related (using the same carrier, or phonons), which is why good heat conductors are also good sound conductors, so you could claim that Sound and Fire would go together (sure, Fire is technically a different mechanism, but still, Type chart justifications are handwavey at best anyway). Bug resisting Sound could be justified to a degree by them doing some resonance shenanigans. But yeah, new Types would definitely mess the Type chart.
@Chaotix033
@Chaotix033 23 күн бұрын
Just by making Bug be strong or at least neutral against Fairy would be good. I see no reason for Fairy to resist it. I wanna see what the hell Tinker Bell would do against a swarm of wasps or one territorial Hercules Beetle.
@jmhguy
@jmhguy 23 күн бұрын
Fay are much more powerful than insects. So, a bunch of average joes (Bug) going up against and won't do much to an Eldritch horror (Fairy) would make sense.
@Chaotix033
@Chaotix033 21 күн бұрын
@@jmhguy But what if the average joe is built diferent? (They can lift 850x their weight)
@jmhguy
@jmhguy 20 күн бұрын
@@Chaotix033 that would be cute to the Eldritch being then
@reactionlessssbu-clips2723
@reactionlessssbu-clips2723 12 күн бұрын
Light can work since Ice reflects light from the sun becoming a resistance, light and dark can be super effective to eachother, light and fire resist eachother, light and electric resist eachother, and light and fairy are neutral to eachother
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 17 күн бұрын
Balance went out the window the moment they decided to Ur the Shifu, Callyrex the Shadow Rider, and Flutter the Mane
@crabman8321
@crabman8321 22 күн бұрын
2:00 dont forget about ghost type! Dark types being used to balance out ghost types were important too
@user-vi1hv9zu8z
@user-vi1hv9zu8z 19 сағат бұрын
Steel being weak to sound is very, very logical. Harmonics plays a massive role in structural stability and ballistics, vibration waves can efficiently destroy metal as good as anything and metal conducts sound very well
@Mustache99
@Mustache99 17 күн бұрын
for steel water should add an effect that if hit a steel mon it give it a dot because of corrosion or be superffective, electric should be supereffective against steel
@Ivashanko
@Ivashanko 23 күн бұрын
Eventually they probably will add a new type, as it's creates a lot of discussion, conversation, and hype. Free advertisement is the best sort of advertisement. Whether they will anytime soon is harder to say. They should rework the existing type chart.
@arcanemaster8722
@arcanemaster8722 23 күн бұрын
One thing, I think ice could potentially be immune to light with how reflective it can be
@dorkenspache8353
@dorkenspache8353 20 күн бұрын
I think my main gripe with Sound type is that any argument you could make for a type being a weakness could also work for it being a resistance. Like Steel, Rock, Ground, all of these are solid surfaces that block or dampen sound so they could be resistances, but also enough sound can take down buildings made of these things, so would they be weaknesses? I think so many new type concepts are just too abstract as you said. Only one I could possibly see is Virtual maybe because at least with that there is a lot to cover, it could easily work to buff Bug types because of the idea of a computer virus/bug in programming, idk if it would necessarily nerf Steel, but I think it could buff Bug & Poison for sure
@TheCrazyhusky
@TheCrazyhusky 23 күн бұрын
Honestly Fairy type was a mistake, they needed do to some actual game balancing within types and adjust moves so that some of them weren't spammable anymore. For start changing Outrage to be a recoil move to be more inline Flare blitz and Volt tackle so it damages you, meaning that pokemon KO's itself after using a few times.
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 19 күн бұрын
They made many mistakes with the typings, rock and ground should just be earth, flying should be wind, and does poison really needed to be a type? Fairy could be light, or magic or something
@TheCrazyhusky
@TheCrazyhusky 19 күн бұрын
@@ratedr7845 I think having Ground and rock types be different things is fine. Though i think they need to be changes to be a little more different. For instance make Rock resistant to Water and Ice due to our houses are made of rock and they don't melt in the rain, it does not make sense for Rock to be weak to water. Ground is mud and should be weak to Water and Ice those not solid rock. Also get rid if its Grass weakness, I don't know what has it. Again, Ground should be weak to Grass and has nutreits for the grass to absorb while rock is hard carbon and Gems with no nutriet value, it should hit for normal damage. With those 2 tweaks Ground and Rock would look different with no over overlap. Also it would give Rock type the defensive buffs it needs, only have 3 weakness rather 5 weakness. One of 2 types that have 5 weaknesses, too many.
@TheCrazyhusky
@TheCrazyhusky 19 күн бұрын
@@ratedr7845 Psychic type is actually the stand in Light type. Many of it's moves are light based. Light screen, Reflect, Mist ball, photon geyser, Lumina Crash, Luster purge and few others. We do a need proper Sound-type though, For too long they've been using normal type for the sound based things. This why Melotta is part normal type, and why Jigglypuff kept its Normal typing in Gen 6.
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 19 күн бұрын
@@TheCrazyhusky okay, I get your point
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 19 күн бұрын
@@TheCrazyhusky great idea, that's why I hate that they're different things, not enough differences
@terrencelee9366
@terrencelee9366 23 күн бұрын
I think after Gen 10 we can have a reboot that gives us a whole new 151 and we start from there all over again, idk if I personally would want older Pokémon to comeback after that.
@MynameisnotGraey
@MynameisnotGraey 3 күн бұрын
Hold on did you just say that a major reason for light and sound types not being added is that they wouldn’t hit steel for super effective, then say that steel isn’t broken and doesn’t really need another type to hit it with super effective damage?
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