Will Sens GM Steve Staios Trade Jakob Chychrun After Moving Vladimir Tarasenko To Florida? | Rumours

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Locked On Senators

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4 ай бұрын

Steve Staios and the Ottawa Senators opened up the flood gates for the rest of the league to start trading as he made his first trade as General Manager!
Brandon Piller and Ross Levitan break down the deal that brought two mid round picks in return. We cover the flurry of other trades around the league and speculate on how they may affect the Jakob Chychrun market. And, oh ya, it’s a game day! We preview tonight’s tilt up against the Anaheim Ducks, a team that also weakened their lineup with a pair of players on the move for them.
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@RandytheChzbrgrBandit
@RandytheChzbrgrBandit 3 ай бұрын
Is Buffalo doing what ottawa did with too many LHD?
@gmo9172
@gmo9172 3 ай бұрын
a bit underwhelming? Talk about an understatement.
@jamesvisutskie9406
@jamesvisutskie9406 3 ай бұрын
The senators got fleeced by Florida. It’s a shame letting such a good player go for nothing.
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
Don’t worry, we draft really well and we develop our talent. Just look at the guys we’ve taken a third or fourth round that are now staples in the organization. Oh!!! Nevermind!! #FireScouts&DevelopmentStaffs
@marcelleclair4452
@marcelleclair4452 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully they don’t trade Chychrun for a 4th round pick (a bucket of pucks)
@michaelmadden9451
@michaelmadden9451 3 ай бұрын
Lets go! Not loving waking up to the trade, but i guess there wasnt much to be done about it. Am interested to see what Staois will say about it
@DocSportello1970
@DocSportello1970 3 ай бұрын
Sorry guys, Its all my fault. As a Montreal Expos fan I was destined to back an NHL team that is now The Expos of the NHL, and to re-live the Heartbreak of another Franchise Failure. For the Expos were also known as the "Farm Team" for other MLB teams. Examples include: Dawson to the Cubs. Larry Walker to Colorado, Marquis Grissom to ATL, Moises Alou to FLA, and the worst of all....Pedro Martinez to Boston!
@chrisfortin984
@chrisfortin984 3 ай бұрын
After thinking about this, this has to do more with Dorion being at fault for this by putting the NMC on Tarasenko to completely handcuff Staios, the same way it went with Debrincat. Florida was the only team Tarasenko would waive to, and Florida could have waited till July 1, so to get what they got, it's something, and lets not forget, we got Senko in free agency, so I look at this like they got 1 pick back from getting Debrincat, but soo much damage has been done by Dorion, Staios has to get anything really out of the UFA's. He was completely handcuffed by Dorion. Pillzy nailed it big time
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
No, no Dorion was as qualified to be GM as Trudope is to be PM.
@chrisfortin984
@chrisfortin984 3 ай бұрын
@@user-md3ij9oc9q I cant believe im saying this, but Trudope does a better job as PM than Dorion as a GM. Thats how pathetic I have Dorion. You probably got people in government, dealing with scandal after scandal, look at this Ottawa team and say "I wouldnt want to be those guys".
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisfortin984 over the summer (well since the day they hired Dorion and saw his first press conference) I’ve been telling everyone on this site that he was not qualified for the job, that he should have never signed Tank, never traded for another goalie (at least not at that salary), never should have spent $41M on top 6, never should have signed Macewen, never should have resigned Brannstrom (he should be in Belleville at best), needed to upsize our bottom pairing, that we needed depth on our bottom 6Fs, had to bury Joseph in AHL (I’ll admit, I was wrong on that one), that at best we could hope for was “meaningful hockey” (I’ll admit, it’s gone worse than even I thought), that our AHL team was horrendous and that NO ONE is coming in from that team to help us, that we really only have 8-10 NHL caliber players in the whole organization, that the development staff and scouts have done a terrible job and that it made absolutely no sense to have DJ back (why have him on a short leash instead of allowing a coach to use training camp to instill his system). It was obvious to me, but many people said Dorion had done a great job, we draft amazingly, that DJ needed more time, that Tarasenko was exactly what we needed, that Korpisalo was the solution (like the other 3 guys we tried were less qualified), that anyone would want Branny, etc… The only 2 bright spots this year have been Joseph (he actually looks like he can play in the NHL) and Chabot (although I did 100% say that anyone expecting him and/or Chychrun to play a full season without injury is foolish (just look at their careers, neither is physical and rarely have played a full season without injury). So where do we go from here? Nothing the new ownership or management has done has been a surprise (although even I didn’t think the return for Tank would be so bad). There is good quality coaches in the AHL that have proven they can develop elite talent at that level and have won a ton at that level but we will hire Gruden… an unproven coach who’s AHL team is worse than ours (guess he’s a GREAT coach 🤦‍♂️) and we will continue to be the laughing stock on the league. To say I’m frustrated to be an Ottawa fan (we broke in with Tampa who’s won multiple cups, been a dominate team multiple times, has had (or has) multiple HOFers since their inception (we have 1), is a complete joke… but YES I will sadly continue to be a fan, happily defend them (even though I 1000% know we are a joke), and we’ve have been to 1 Cup final (since inception) and got embarassed in that final (looked like boys against men). That’s sadly what a true fan looks like in Ottawa. You know they are the joke of the league and yet I still want to believe in them. God I’m not sure if I’m dumber than the delusional fan that thought we’d be a playoff team this year.
@chrisfortin984
@chrisfortin984 3 ай бұрын
@@user-md3ij9oc9q I can see Staios taking an Arizona approach mixed with Vegas. Draft a ton of guys (they still have like 20 picks in the top 3 rounds for the next 3 years), and build the team from within and have patience. Stone and Karlsson should have never been traded, period. I do believe to have it done right, this team is going to have to start over, and keep 6 guys as their core. Brady, Timmy, Jake, Mathieu, Shane and Ridly. Right now Staios needs guys in for support to these guys to discover winning. after that those core 6 will be the veterans to teach the next crop, and thats why the draft picks are so important, and Dorion threw them away like he was a cup contender, when the team was barely scratching a playoff spot. On top of that, tried to booster cable jump that cost years of rebuild down the toilet. Staios will have hard decisions. The good thing is he isnt as tied to this core as Dorion was.
@LlamasEatHotdogs
@LlamasEatHotdogs 3 ай бұрын
I normally stay up for the late games but this trip is all scheduled losses. 0 wins west of their time zone and the California trip always seems to be the worst road trip of the season. Also the guys are already checked out, they'd rather be golfing and having a good time than win hockey games and I am fully on board with that. Tankathon is officially official.
@edpottinger849
@edpottinger849 3 ай бұрын
I feel for you guys.I had high hopes as well.Does Chychrun have to go to a contender,or could you make a multi player deal with a team that probably won't be in the playoffs but is on the rise?This is an example trade not exact.Chychrun,Kastellic and Lassi Thomson for Gustav Lindstrom a young right shot d man and Isac Lundestrom an up and coming Center that has speed,plus a first.An example where you could trade to a team that would sign him long term for young players back. Kubalik and Brannstrom to Calgary for a prospect.Norris to Chicago for Jason Dickinson.
@scottmullins87
@scottmullins87 3 ай бұрын
That no trade contract is always a killer. The fact is that was the best deal he got because either no other team offered more or Tarensenko said no o a better trade. I was hoping for a second or a prospect. the 50% salary retained bothers me .
@deltagolavista1
@deltagolavista1 3 ай бұрын
Allegedly Philly is sniffing around on Chych Could they package what they got for Walker with other assets to acquire Chychrun? Retain another 50% on Johansen to drop his cap hit to $2M next year and the Senators have a well priced veteran 3rd line center that they have been after all year. I personally don't like it but I am expecting that type of swing from Briere.
@BloodandSoilNS
@BloodandSoilNS 3 ай бұрын
The Sens taking Ostapchuk over Logan Stankoven still pisses me off, and Tyler Boucher at 10 instead of Sillinger (which I think was just a favor for his dad) and don't get me started on them drafting Jarventie over Paterka! I don't get any of this shit. It seems there is no game plan. Prospect pool 31st in the league......just brutal. This rebuild was done terribly.
@user-pn2qz1zf2p
@user-pn2qz1zf2p 3 ай бұрын
This just in, Staios moving Stutzle to Buffalo for 5th rounder and retain 50% for a 6th rounder
@kurtismeldrum9845
@kurtismeldrum9845 3 ай бұрын
Just so you guys know, Sleeper isn't available in Ontario for betting.
@jonathanharris5310
@jonathanharris5310 3 ай бұрын
been watching top draft pick profiles on the daily to keep my sanity
@vadimkozlov3008
@vadimkozlov3008 3 ай бұрын
Love you guys but no more gambling ads please.
@candbreid
@candbreid 3 ай бұрын
Its too bad...the Ducks are doing a better job of tanking than we are. At this point I hope the AHL team the Ducks are going to ice will STILL end up beating the Sens tonight.
@TwentyOne_Five
@TwentyOne_Five 3 ай бұрын
Staios is making grownup decisions based on the situation he was left with.
@bradp4216
@bradp4216 3 ай бұрын
I'm so disheartened about our team . Will watch the game tonight .
@LockedOnSenators
@LockedOnSenators 3 ай бұрын
I felt this wholeheartedly
@matthewgregory8218
@matthewgregory8218 3 ай бұрын
And definitely going to lose all the remaining games
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
Hate to say that I told y’all. No depth, no real elite players, a 5’7” D in bottom pairing, wasted money on goalie (again), no real prospects coming, a farm team that finished in last place last year, not sure how anyone could ACTUALLY be surprised.
@matthewgregory8218
@matthewgregory8218 3 ай бұрын
@@user-md3ij9oc9q ya, the future is really not good. There is nothing to get excited about. I expect another slow start to next year and be last overall. I also expect it to be a longer rebuild.
@xhiggy8378
@xhiggy8378 3 ай бұрын
I watch every game no matter what but sometimes I can’t bring myself to watch the postcast if I know it will further my depression
@steveking2144
@steveking2144 3 ай бұрын
MAN... AFTER THAT TRADE THERE'S ONLY 3 WORDS THAT COME TO MIND...... BEST IN CLASS..... LMFAO
@ashepherd39675
@ashepherd39675 3 ай бұрын
Project a late first and 22 year old plus AHL prospect. Senators management hopefully understands why handcuffing yourself never works in trades. They're getting a first hand view thanks to Dorion
@chrismiller2624
@chrismiller2624 3 ай бұрын
Was that Kubilic that was traded for a bag of pucks…. Hold on, what it was The Tank Show, wow took stay pat Steve 6 months to pull that one off🤦🏾
@user-kn9ve7bo4x
@user-kn9ve7bo4x 3 ай бұрын
This trade was made for one thing only. Free up cap space to sign Pinto.
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
If I’m being honest, it was a signing that NEVER made sense. Surprise, surprise. How in the F did we think we could sign Pinto after signing Tank?? Well, we actually got 2 draft picks (that we will never develop, because we never do (but hey keep the scouts and the development guys)). Who cares now after the money… it’s not like it’s our own personal money… we just wear the shame of being Sens fans
@Steve-xf4uv
@Steve-xf4uv 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to see Brandon so down; don't forget the internal turmoil of the SENS with the sale of the club finally, the problem with Pinto, the firing of Dorion, then DJ and a new//old coach, this all affects players like it or not. I say our year was jinxed from the start. And the NHL was not very nice to us with the Pinto punishment either. That said, we made a horrible move hiring Korpisalo for so many years. I don't believe in tanking and hate to hear you talking unsportmanlike. Let's look at what is coming from Belleville and finish the year ahead of Montreal. Alittle team pride please !!!
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
Ok, what’s coming from Belleville…. NOTHING but more AHL “quality” players. No knight riding in from Belleville is saving this team. Hahaha Hate to tell you so, but told y’all this at best was a team that would play meaningful games. You can’t spend $41M on top 6 and spread $4-$5 on your bottom 6. The fact that Dorion wasn’t fired 1st day ownership took over showed …. Nothing positive.
@Steve-xf4uv
@Steve-xf4uv 3 ай бұрын
Wow - really positive attitude. Is that a blue jersey you're wearing ?@@user-md3ij9oc9q
@danguindon932
@danguindon932 3 ай бұрын
What we got back for Tarasenko wasn’t worth it and to top it off we retaining half his salary. Florida are laughing at us right now. Huge lost for us and huge win for them. And a rival team also. I’m not looking forward to other trades we do when this one was so bad.
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
Who cares about 1/2 his salary. Ain’t coming out of our pockets. The draft pick are a joke for that guy… and our scouts can’t pick and/or our development guys are terrible at developing, but hey keep them. 🤦‍♂️
@pat6146
@pat6146 3 ай бұрын
Hard to see such a poor return for Tarasenko. I get that Florida has all the leverage but not even a second? With 50% cap retention? Can't imagine a worse deal than a 3rd and a 4th. I guess at the end of the day we got Vlad for free so it could be worse
@user-of8js3tn9z
@user-of8js3tn9z 3 ай бұрын
I thought Pilzy’s last thought on the show was just going to be that big sigh.
@LockedOnSenators
@LockedOnSenators 3 ай бұрын
hahahah it may has well have been
@CustomComputing
@CustomComputing 3 ай бұрын
No we arent cheering for florida, out of the east I would say we cheer for Carolina out of the east and out of the west Edmonton or Vancouver
@matthewgregory8218
@matthewgregory8218 3 ай бұрын
Sadly, I think this is the year leafs make it out of the east.
@Marty-72
@Marty-72 3 ай бұрын
The Buffalo doesn't make sense but they might have other ideas
@ayashin19
@ayashin19 3 ай бұрын
Might as well trade timmy for a 3rd round oh and retain 50% of tims salary....
@matthewgregory8218
@matthewgregory8218 3 ай бұрын
Another 5 years of rebuild coming up.
@2Jim2u
@2Jim2u 3 ай бұрын
And this is why I question the Education system!!
@minhloi4536
@minhloi4536 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 And you're educated by that system yourself ⁉️ so you should question yourself ⁉️
@GrahamDoesStuff
@GrahamDoesStuff 3 ай бұрын
Vladdy Saddy :(
@sunrisebend
@sunrisebend 3 ай бұрын
May take a few years to unDorion this team.
@scottmullins87
@scottmullins87 3 ай бұрын
I would keep Chychrun and resign him. He's playing up to his contract. Why get a player , pay dearly then lose him an get less value ? Resign him now.
@wlaisback
@wlaisback 3 ай бұрын
The outrage is ridiculous. Vlad is a 3rd line winger who can score. He's meh at D and costs way too much for what he is now. How many third liners are giving you more than 3rd? I would argue the condition should have been a 2nd rounder if the Panthers win the cup.
@2Jim2u
@2Jim2u 3 ай бұрын
So, knowing you can't use a calculator, and that Staios just saved the Sens over $975K to put towards another's contract, collecting 2 draft picks in return; Comparing Tarasenko's trade with Mantha, not realizing that Washington gave up essentially Dickinson to Dallas, in order to get Mantha, and Washington only gets a second round pick in return plus a 4th round pick in '26. Your show, you did your research, and you're BLASTING Staios for saving monies for the Sens? Do your research. lol
@dwightbrown
@dwightbrown 3 ай бұрын
Darren Dreger is a pony boy mouthpiece for the league and teams. Useless. He is a national TV version of Bruce Garrioch.
@TwentyOne_Five
@TwentyOne_Five 3 ай бұрын
At least Garrioch has that dapper bow tie. Dreger’s got nothin.
@richardford6752
@richardford6752 3 ай бұрын
'Promo sm'
@jameshendricks1220
@jameshendricks1220 3 ай бұрын
Such a weak trade
@matthewgregory8218
@matthewgregory8218 3 ай бұрын
Another loss for our Sens
@sebastienbelanger8632
@sebastienbelanger8632 3 ай бұрын
He's coming back never year. Relax boys lol
@sebastienbelanger8632
@sebastienbelanger8632 3 ай бұрын
Next
@ayashin19
@ayashin19 3 ай бұрын
Haha funny joke nobody lives in Florida and plays for cup contending team and then decides he wants to be in ottawa he's gone for good
@ayashin19
@ayashin19 3 ай бұрын
He ain't coming back
@JayCanuck007
@JayCanuck007 3 ай бұрын
Senators suck worse than the Flames, and the Flames are trying to lose!
@themgtowghost2689
@themgtowghost2689 3 ай бұрын
last team in league while spending to cap...trade tckachuk stutzlr to chicago and san jose for their first...rebuild and clear cap money for ufa in summer
@themgtowghost2689
@themgtowghost2689 3 ай бұрын
giroux ...trade him...sign back in summer...this chycrun...get firsts rebuild....sens in last place...they be in last place next year and the next with this lineup...
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
NO ONE will want Brannstrom
@user-md3ij9oc9q
@user-md3ij9oc9q 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm. Where did Brannstrom go?
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