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Will They Survive? ARB vs Generic Traction Boards in Deep Snow

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Күн бұрын

We set out to test ARB Tred Pro traction boards against some inexpensive traction boards in deep snow. The temperature dropped to about 15 degrees and the snow was up to 4' deep on Rollins Pass, outside of Nederland Colorado.
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@user-uf3tx3tn2j
@user-uf3tx3tn2j 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly the type of info I was looking for and it happen right on camera. In Canada we use lots of things to get through the snow. I have some metal tracks that work like a charm but wanted to upgrade and was considering the original Maxtrax. I have never liked the idea of knockoffs but figured that there could be other companies offering variations on the Maxtrax theme. With respect I’d like to make these comments. First the number one tool. Period. A shovel. Not a little avalanche thing or some plastic sandbox version. A strong metal shovel. Always. Even when combining it with other recovery items. Second comment is I’m wondering if the cold affects those boards making them brittle. You videos clearly shows there are issues when using these type of plastic tracks in the winter. Not the sand as they were originally intended. Very very informative real use video. Thanks!
@gkcamden9050
@gkcamden9050 2 жыл бұрын
I guess nothing beats snow that’s deep enough to high center the vehicle. It’s interesting that the cold makes the kinetic recovery rope brittle. It’s logical, but I hadn’t considered it until now. Thanks for the video!
@usmcdoc2512
@usmcdoc2512 2 жыл бұрын
Now these are tests I can appreciate
@shishkabobmiller2693
@shishkabobmiller2693 Жыл бұрын
I have to say, the darker colored JL’s tires were cleaning themselves REALLY well
@greghull3189
@greghull3189 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video on what to expect with deep snow driving and thanks for doing it!
@fredwasielewski8327
@fredwasielewski8327 10 ай бұрын
You shouldn’t have stopped. Momentum. Great video
@shauns1294
@shauns1294 3 жыл бұрын
I was impressed by the ARB boards even though they broke. I think if you lessened the angle of the board, plus provided support by packing snow under the part of the board hanging out in the air, it would have been able to support the weight of the Jeep and not snap. A good video showing the different recovery methods. Plus, I can appreciate you guys walking around in the cold snow, at altitude, digging out the snow, it is a workout!! haha
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 жыл бұрын
The issue is that the cold temperature made them brittle, that was the most unexpected result
@billredding2000
@billredding2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailTraveler True, as most traction-boards in Australia are used in sand, and that likely means also during warmer weather where boards stay flexible. But with that "cold-temp-issue" in mind, AVOIDING any sharp folding/bending stresses applied to the board would still be MOST desirable things to do, I'd say. FOR SURE I'm going to take my own advice as I live in CO also (Colorado Springs) and most likely will be using my traction-boards in the Winter and in snow (and VERY low temps on occasion here in CO, as YOU also well know). Pretty much ALL "plastic" (using a generic term for assorted resins, nylon, etc.) -- not just "plastic" traction-boards -- will be brittle/harden in low temps. A vehicle's TIRES harden-up, too (hence the use of "softer" compound Winter Tires). So you give these boards (regardless of brand OR price) more support with a gradual slope, and make sure they're supported underneath their ENTIRE length, not just on one end (as in your use of them). It's just Common Sense really, yes? Bring a LONG handled shovel (or even a long-handled hoe) with you to build a better ramp for them. Even if it takes a few minutes longer to do when placing the boards. IMO, the initial board PLACEMENT is the first MOST important thing for best extraction/recovery results (the SECOND thing is no excessive tire-spinning). And a bonus if you place them properly the first time: You're WAY less likely to damage the boards (OR your tires!)...especially if they were the more expensive boards and so hardly "use once & throw-away" items. And certainly, your TIRES aren't throw-away items, either... I think your lack of knowledge (and anyone in your "party") re: how to USE traction-boards properly was clearly evident, so I can't really blame the boards. That REALLY elevated angle you had the board (45 degrees?) at was an instant Red Flag(!) -- didn't you see that yourself? Or anyone else there (such as your helper)? Consequently, I recently (and with confidence) ordered the ARB Tred Pro boards (color: gray w/ orange tips/teeth -- $300 American) and figure the only way I'll break them is doing something foolish/ignorant or just plain stupid. So despite what we all have seen here, I'm going to give ARB/Tred Pros board an opportunity to prove itself -- or not! ;-) But even if I did break them, I'd just move up to MaxTrax ("Extreme" with all metal teeth), even though they're $500 presently. That's as far as I'd go though, as TMK, there AIN'T no boards any more expensive than that! ;-) I also looked at what seems to be another decent board -- American-made ActionTrax (accused of being MaxTrax knock-offs) -- but TMK, they're a bit new to the scene and will wait for a while to see how they do over a longer time. For now, I think MaxTrax and ARB/Tred Pro are the two best traction-boards you can buy... So, for now, the ARB Tred Pros I have currently on order will be fine. Happy Snow-Wheeling...will do some of that myself as soon as my 2021 Chevy Colorado ZR2 (in Sande Dune Metallic color) arrives...that is, when GM can find the "computer chips" it needs (I guess) -- so no clue WHEN. :-( Regards, -- BR
@fredwasielewski8327
@fredwasielewski8327 10 ай бұрын
I use my Smitty built Land anchor and my winch. It’s a pain getting the winch going all the time. But it works great.
@Raydawg
@Raydawg 6 ай бұрын
best solution is just to stay out of the snow. Luckily I live in Phoenix Az. Never have to suffer in the snow
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 6 ай бұрын
Well...that's not an option living in Colorado. I'll take the snow over 120° summer temps, tried that for a while, it wasn't for me.
@itsthatguyfromthething
@itsthatguyfromthething 3 жыл бұрын
Factors like wheels, lift height, body and side drag on snow were not taken into consideration when doing this. Getting stuck in about the same area woulda been a better test.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t see how any of the matters. The boards broke, they did not hold up to their specs
@hobowalker1
@hobowalker1 2 жыл бұрын
“We’re not talking about your driveway.” You may not be but, I am. That freaking driveway gets some deeeep snow drifts. Haha Great video!
@evilcam
@evilcam 3 жыл бұрын
It's a damn shame you lost the 300 dollar tracks, and your compadre on the journey lost 100 bucks by breaking their tracks. I spose it was worth it though, as you all learned something, and made a good video which could teach us all a thing or two. Let's hope you get a lot of views on this one and that helps pay for the replacement tracks. I also agree that it looked like it was the cold that made them brittle enough to break, as I've seen people use those ARBs and maxtracks with much heavier vehicles. In videos at least. I don't know if there is something you could do to keep them warmer, or if you'd need fiberglass tracks for cold weather. I have driven through deeper snow while working in Buena Vista, but that was on a paved road in a neighborhood, where I did not have to worry about a narrow trail sucking me into the side, like what seemed to be the main problem here. It took some serious balls to go up and intentionally get stuck in this much snow and on that kind of trail. I appreciate the risk and money and labor you put into it, in order to show us the limitations on those tracks, in deep and unstable snow.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was hoping it would be received this way
@pheniox44
@pheniox44 3 жыл бұрын
Arbs come with that lifetime warranty too
@brandonwl
@brandonwl 10 ай бұрын
What tire pressure are you running? I normally go down to 9psi for deep snow with my 33s
@ddbear8786
@ddbear8786 Жыл бұрын
Looking closely at the ARB test, it looks like the ARB Tred Pro survives the front tire crawl out, but was split in half by a high speed burnout from the rear tire while it was sticking out at a 45 degree angle. That doesn’t seem like a fair test, all that throttle is tremendous force. (I don’t have a board yet but researching all the reviews.)
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
They are supposed to bend 90° without breaking, so we still considered it a fail in the end. We have been testing the MaxxTraxx for a few months now and they have been holding up perfectly.
@ddbear8786
@ddbear8786 Жыл бұрын
@@TrailTraveler Interestingly, consistent with your test, I just read many other reports online about the ARB Tred Pro splitting in half and cracking, while the Maxtrax holds up ok without breaking. They are made of two very different plastic compounds. So I'm going to buy the Maxtrax.
@hereto246
@hereto246 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be waiting for summer 😉
@andysok06
@andysok06 9 ай бұрын
not the same test. needs a controlled setting. the height of the first vs second tests are not the same.
@fpartidafpartida
@fpartidafpartida Жыл бұрын
Wish you had some Maxtrax with you to see how they did.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
I have some now I will be testing out
@anthonyrenaud5783
@anthonyrenaud5783 2 жыл бұрын
I heard from a person who lived in Minnesota that Cat Litter works.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 2 жыл бұрын
Cat Litter will work if you are on a slick surface. Once your vehicle is buried in the snow like we did, there is very little that will help besides getting pulled out.
@Grendelsbane
@Grendelsbane Жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see follow up with the gold standard MaxTrax or American made ActionTrax.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
I have been using Maxxtrax for a few months and they are holding up perfectly
@halterall2457
@halterall2457 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was a bust. BUT we all had Birthday cake at 10,200ft in January ... guess that makes up for all the winching.
@jayluikart487
@jayluikart487 3 жыл бұрын
What a bummer those boards didn’t hold up
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 3 жыл бұрын
it certainly wasn't the result I expected
@persicon_jl
@persicon_jl 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Was wondering what your camera setup inside looks like as it has great image stabilization the way you have it
@Stealther
@Stealther Жыл бұрын
The key is more shovel work. It would have saved you so much money by not destroying your recovery gear.
@jesslorenzana7193
@jesslorenzana7193 Жыл бұрын
Max trac’s #1
@DaddyDog
@DaddyDog 3 жыл бұрын
Maxtrax mkII traction boards are the best. Won't break like the ARBs
@dragonseggs
@dragonseggs 8 ай бұрын
Suggest MaxTrax.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 8 ай бұрын
That is what we are using now
@miketaylor6700
@miketaylor6700 Жыл бұрын
How on earth did you turn around in all that snow and narrow road???
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
Very, very carefully
@102Montana
@102Montana 2 жыл бұрын
How did they mount on your tire?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a video I did about that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ma2Wfbp_rpudmYU.html
@jbooth170
@jbooth170 Жыл бұрын
Did they honor their warranty?
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
ARB claimed that they were likely fake as I had ordered them from Amazon. Amazon did give me a refund.
@RichardHubbuck
@RichardHubbuck Жыл бұрын
7:30 beached
@ryanhaines7682
@ryanhaines7682 7 ай бұрын
Maxtrax
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler 7 ай бұрын
Which is why that is what we are using now
@mrsunset6743
@mrsunset6743 3 жыл бұрын
The cold
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe Жыл бұрын
A Subaru would have no problem with that road.
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and that's why we pull tons of Subarus off the hill every winter. No Subaru is getting through three feet of snow, I know, we have an Outback Wilderness. But it sure is fun getting stuck!
@AlexK706
@AlexK706 Жыл бұрын
@@TrailTraveler IDK. I have a Crosstrek with a 1” lift and OEM tires and I’m sure I could get through that road with no problem /s
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
@@AlexK706 Anytime you want to give it a try during the winter you just let me know so I can come film it :)
@dtmfool789
@dtmfool789 Жыл бұрын
Dedicated snow tires and not taking on roads your vehicle isn’t capable of. Boom solved it
@TrailTraveler
@TrailTraveler Жыл бұрын
Where’s the fun in that?
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