How good do you guys think Zen will be? I need predictions 👀

Who’s here after Zen hit a ceiling pinch double in the grand finals of worlds?

“He might just be good enough to beat everyone” Yeah, yeah he was. Insane predictions by you honestly

the whole french community says zen is the best player in the world already so it's cool to se that even other pros outside the french community think the same

his story arc is just beginning, looking foward to see how rl evolves

The biggest thing I've noticed is he doesn't add extra movements, every single thing he does is with intention and without hesitation, it's like he's a robot and knows what to do within milliseconds of anything happening.

this aged well

Who’s here after Zen & Vitality won worlds?

What makes Zen great is (I believe) his ability to predict what is going to happen. That is, not only in terms of what is happening on the field, but also generally understanding the physics of the game and predicting how his opponents will move and how the ball will move around the field. I also think that's why he's so mechanical, because he understands the flow and physics of the game so well. This is what made Monkey M00n so great, his efficiency and direct lines to the ball were unmatched at the time, but we will see if other pros can catch up as quickly as they did with MM.

Love any analysis video from you, hope they get views and you continue to prdouce them!

great commentary. Definetly the small details, how he moves and quick taps powerslide, how he controls flips and flip cancels in every direction close to perfection, and how speedy and precise it is sometimes is very surprising.

Havent seen enough of Vit to make a guess on his role on the team, but I really hope the team chemistry is on point. Would love to see them have the same kind of trust in each other as you guys have on GenG.

The main reason zens movement is very different from other pros is because his air roll left is an analog input (binded to trigger) instead of a static input (binded to button), allowing him to control the speed of directional air roll dynamically

Been wanting to watch this vid for a while. I love seeing you (Jack) in the pro scene, but your analytical ability will be incredible in a coaching role.

13:22 that is a stall from what it looks like. He is turning right which means to stall he would have to air roll left and that's why he lands so smoothly

I agree that Zen is destined for the very top. Having said that, I think every couple of years in rocket league we've seen a new wave of top player reach a new mechanical baseline for pro play and I think the likes of Daniel,Zen, even Chronic to an extent are brining that new baseline with them, ready to wash away some of the older pros. E.g. I'm 26, have 1000 hours in rocket league and am a totally non mechanical but decent player. I solo qed a high GC, 1680 ish MMR 3s tournament and had duo q teammates... now one was shocking, genuinely a diamond player, if that. His mate who carried him there... random player, nobody has ever heard of has totally carried us to win this tournament. I'm gobsmacked by what I'm seeing, every game this guy is hitting clips that would make top 5 plays in a full RLCS season and his air control is special. So I add him. Turns out to be a cpl of 13 year olds... the way Zen moves is so similar, if a little cleaner than this kid... but this kid... 2k hours. I'm sat there thinking, with 2k hours I'd still be 1/4 this kids level and it shows how good you can be when you build your mechanics tailored to a specific game from a young age.

love your analysis videos. great stuff

Jack you've said before that whoever gets Zen is winning RLCS - now it's up to you to prove yourself wrong buddy!

Yes also even if you don't have a lot of mechs It's nice to look at his replays to get creative ideas and helps a lot

He'll probably be some where along the lines of Vatira and Daniel but ultimately it comes down to how u play as a team

Great to hear the thoughts of someone well qualified to comment 'pon the lad. I think he is the next daniel, no doubt; a real impactful player. zen's play style looks like joreuz but more efficient and focused while also being free, mentally, in terms of decision making.

This is crazy because litteraly all the RL pro scene is actually saying that Zen enter the scene will change things, but randoms RL players in the comments still think they are more able to judge on this. Btw something have to be clear, freestyling is mechanical, play mechanical isn't freestyling.

Jack u guys were insane at the winter open. amazing work

Overconfidence can still be a vice in mentality if it leads to toxicity like it did for scrub. I sometimes worry Vatira has this bug.

keep up the great videos Jack!

i dont know if he ever will be The GOAT but he uses every movement his car does to his advantage and thats makes his car play´s look so different also i like the fact that he is searching for new ways nobody would expect. And i love watching his matches because his replays are super mesmerizing for a RL fan, also the reason why i love your videos @ApparentlyJack you also have such a fluid gameplay and recovery, car movement in generell its mesmerizing for me.

Zen 2nd man would go crazy

Zen Alpha54 Radosin Saizen is a great player but I feel as if the other two bring more under rlcs pressure. Saizen is known to get nervous in the later rounds.

jack something you may find interesting is that zen uses L2 for air roll left. Meaning he has analog air roll left. This also means that he reverses when he uses air roll left (which is his main air roll) so he actually uses R2 at the same time to cancel out the reversing. I think that may factor into his mechanical ability and it might be theoretically optimal to have air roll left or right on L2. Something to think about.

so far catching the eye of many. Cant wait to see how they do in spring split

What makes him one of the best is his improvisation and braveness, while a lot of youngsters have that; Zen's awareness and positioning is making him elitely different.

I think he would have to play the same as Daniel, 3rd man since he’s good enough to be left alone behind and can almost guarantee a goal vs a broken defence

Great video and awesome commentary! Have you heard of zapatos? Hes got some next level mechanics

We need you to upload your POV from the showmatch Vs Zen! With your genius commentary of course 🤓

At 13:10, I have two guesses for what he possibly did to recover like that. Either after air-rolling with his roof facing the wall, he did an empty-jump (without a joystick input) and then air-rolled through to land on the wall. Or, he did a flip-cancel so fast that it looked like that freestyler technique of "no-flip". Maybe why it might have been a no-flip is the sudden rush his car had going forward and into the wall.

Great video do more of these please

Someone on Reddit told me the other day that Dark(?) was more mechanical than Zen, and most people agreed with that statement lmao

3:40, I definitely see him being a first man, he's a very quick player as you saw about a minute ago, he went for kickoff despite being on the right side, and had a perfect pass for his teammate (assuming that was communicated and he didn't just go, but not sure). He could also fit nicely into a second man, but third? He's too quick to be thrown back there, even though he does have incredible defense, he's just way more beneficial offensively.

Been studying this dudes game for a few months now and his skill is undeniable. I do believe he’s going to be make an immediate impact in the RLCS. Skies the limit for him.

if i undertsood well vitality's roster will be a 4 man roster next split so they won't drop a player, they will be allowed to alternate their players between the games (finally a sub useful)

That flip-cancel at 13:09 was a classic Zen-flip

Of all my times seeing people play him, I like his decision making.. he’d be a good second man. Quick enough to never get beat, knows when to leave or when to fake, and in situations where his first man beats 1 or 2… NOBODY WILL STOP THIS MAN WITH FULL BOOST 😭 and Radosin cant go, he’s been scoring a lot for them. He was lacking for a bit, but he picked it up a little this tourney.

Heard from Vitality players/coach that they will try to work as a group of 4 players where the top 3 performing players before an event will make the team for the event If they do so, I am very interested to see how it will impact the team's results, the players mind, etc

this gameplay was super mid gameplay from zen. he usually moves a lot more differently than other players. he looked more normal here for whatever reason. hes a beast

13:22 looks like: Left joystick back into Left Joystick forward (quick) -> Jump. Now, how he cancels the movement that quick don't even ask me, because when I do it my car still wants to rotate a little bit before I regain control even if for a split second.

He’s insane… also jacks awareness of the game and his appreciate for the game makes great commentary !

He feels like a less flashy but more clinical Daniel. He looks like Daniel a year into rlcs just obviously without the experience. He just feels a year ahead of everyone

I wanna see him as second man setting up alpha and playing that role w a bit of offense and defense himself

You know you're good at Rocket League when your 16 and get Jack to make a 17 minute video about you 😂

I think it's amazing the way everything he does is made in sort some of mechanical manner. For now I think he needs to improve his regularity, because he sometimes seems not focused, or involved he what he does. But on a good day, he clearly breaks the skill ceiling.

did you noticed he pratictly never turns his ballcam off ? so he never loose what happens on the field and outspeed every plays. In vitality he will clearly be the clutch factor, dribbling 2 people in the air and create and/or score the goals :). The third man for me too would be the greatest choice.

I’m exited to see him play, i expect so much from him…but I’m sad for the Vit trio cause i like them all but if i had to sub one out it would be Saizen, he’s a great player but compared to alpha, zen and considering radosin latest performance he has the least impact on the team imo

Hopefully he'll be the playmaker. Using mechanics to break down defenses is my favorite thing to see

I played against Zen early season and I can honestly say I have never been destroyed that badly as on that day. Never been so impressed with anyones play as playing against the fella

his movement is perfect so often. the kid is recovering from crazy stuff and landing in such a way that he doesn't lose any speed ever. it's just weird to see. also he's a boost goblin, but that's ok

id love to see him against the best player firstkiller kinda reminds me of his playstyle a little.

Hey jack love the content

Twist: this was Forky gameplay

In my opinion it's not the mechanical ability or even consistency that makes a RLCS player, but the mental grit and self-management ability to be at their best when needed as well as managing relationships with tm8s. Given that this player was banned his reputation has already been tainted a little. Although that has been in a very young age. It remains to be seen what kind of lessons he took from all that.

13:12 he just stalled lol

If he remains Zen under the pressure, he’ll go far.

Zens movement are weird in a good way, their moves that you wouldn't expect from the normal yet it allways has a purpose of efficiency it looks like how a freestyler would move across a pitch but a freestyle doesn't have the same purpose as zen does. This is just my opinion but the roster seems a bit similiar to how faze was formed around a player so idk fourth place curse??

When I see zen the control that he makes with his car is so insane he can control and do whatever he wants with the ball

Well this video didn't leave me confused about how you feel about Zen

jack setting up his career in commentating for his retirement. smart af boy

he do be nuts and has the ability to carry a team i feel like he is similiar to daniel but yeah im really interested in seeing him compete in rlcs

this makes me wanna get back into comp so bad

Ngl watching these kinds guys make me so demotivated to get to ssl. I’m GC1 I’ve always struggled with my mechanics and I train them everyday with workshop maps, custom training free play and even bought a coach. I’m on 2.1k hours of rl and my goal is to reach ssl and to get there I need to be mechanically better and faster to the air. I’ll keep going cause I’m disciplined to hit the highest rank but my question is how many hours do you need with good training to make it to ssl?

this video like a launch trailer for zen

I saw the title and like.. "Didn't Mawksy already do that?"

2:37 might be the craziest save into recovery I've ever seen. Holy fuck.

Do a slam dunk contest in Hoops, would love to see some crazy things happen.. 😊

Zen was 8 years old when the game came out, he’s been playing for half of his life no wonder he’s a god😂

I agree with your assessment. in some respects he's smoother than you jack. better step it up to not lose your edge. Great vid!

Neo (CEO of Vitality) already said that Zen will join the roster permanently and Alpha54/Radosin/Saizen will rotate in and out at regionals, with who plays and who does not being the decision of coach Ferra, prior to each regional. And that is ONLY for regionals. Also as a Rocket Baguette caster said, the thing with Zen is, he's not only a great mechanical player, he's an actual *genius* at the game.

@1320, thats just a flip-stall my guy(on the faster side). Normal as can be. Heli flips, shuffle switch, all use em.

What is the preset from the first game? Looks clean asf

at 13:20 i think he may of stalled while he hit it and that’s why it looked that way.

I find Zen's consistency and momentum carrying the real kicker. His mechs seem slightly above the average pro player but he seems to risk doing an unusual flip for an unusual outcome which gives him that "mechy" appearance - if he goes out his way to actually learn a variety of flips then he could be a very interesting player as he knows how to do what he's thinking. I guess only time will tell

You got Zen and then other up and coming guys like Dark, Fast, and DrKnown. The next gen of Rocket league is looking kinda insane.

I’m so confused on how they catch the players. Does anyone know?

I was a GC back in seasons 2-3 and I just can't comprehend the skill level these younger guys play at now. Only thing remotely close was when I'd match up against JHZR or some rl KZfaqr, except if he could make every single trick shot instead of just 1 per match.

12:28 "CHECK HIM PC"

I heard Zen has directional air roll bound to a trigger so he can do like smaller air roll adjustments more easily. Is that true and is that the future of rocket league keybind?

He hasn’t lost a show match yet in 1v1. I haven’t seen this level of dominance since Daniel came on the scene.

Been watching Zen for a while, imo he’s got to be the best player in the world. His play style is crazy, will definitely bring a lot to Vitality!

What’s the decal called in the first match pls

Honestly, I think the reason why you're reacting so much to this dude, because his phiosophy of movement throughout the game and when to challenge the ball is very much you also. Do you know how in the last vid you, chronic and noly played? How they said "no one moves like you" ... That's very much like this Zen dude. While it might not be spot on, you can see a similar philosophy of movement through the match that reminds me of you. For example, I didn't know I was watching replay's for almost the entire first match and nothing disconnected with me saying "this isn't Jack"... I know the decal should have been a dead giveaway but I honestly am blind to those sorts of changes so it didn't register. So my prediction... He's going to be great. Just like you are great because you both have a really nice flow that throws people off. ( I really was just focused on the match and while I could "hear" everything you were saying, I was tunnel visioned on the match, So I also didn't pick up on the audio cues this was a replay analysis. I'm just dense mate. lol)

We need to see a zen vs dark matchup

I think clips don't do justice to how consistent he is. I'll admit I actually underestimated him, and particularly his mechanical ability, before watching him play for longer periods of time

10:52 I would love to see Zen come to NA. But he’s going to make a great player anywhere in the workd

I am distracted and watched the video thinking that it was your gameplay, realised at the first goal that it was a replay 🤦

He should play first or second, Alpha54 is most dangerous when he is 3rd IMO, Alpha is the best defender and his transition game is great so I think zen pushing forward will help maximize everyone on the team.

He would be so hard to play against he looks so unpredictable but if we are talking how technical a player is I still think jzr has mechanics down so well even though I know he’s not an rlcs player

Zen’s offense is so oppressive and his opponents are always on their back feet, nuts.

Jack - you mentioned you see him as 3rd man mechanical - just wondering how you see Squishy and if that's also why he's played that role for NRG. Thanks!

I think his weird flip cancel thing at 13:25 is a stall

Can wait to see zen!

13:21 fairly sure he just did a quick stall lol

Idk what happened with the screen at 13:43 is a replay glitch or? Looked like he sped up or something, i knoe he goes supersonic there but it looked different